40caa7 No.14533470
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322064952/https://www.usgamer.net/articles/former-bioware-writer-mike-laidlaw-sheds-more-light-on-dragon-age-4s-development-possible-story
>Under Laidlaw's direction we might've learned a more about Solas, the elven apostate who played a large role in Dragon Age Inquisition (which Kat enjoyed) and its Trespasser DLC. "Post-[Dragon Age: Inquisition Trespasser DLC], there's obviously a route to go with the Solas revelations," Laidlaw says. "If you've played Trespasser, you will know what logically will follow." The idea of possibly following Solas into Dragon Age 4 is intriguing, as the Dragon Age games aren't direct sequels of each other.
>Ultimately, Laidlaw felt it was time to leave BioWare behind regardless of Dragon Age's loose threads. "I wanted to try a new challenge, and I knew that [the staff reassignments] would change the date," he says. "I was going to have a very small skeleton crew
So there is this… If you expect any sort of follow up to the story and plot elements established in the previous games, don't expect it here. Not only was Mass Effect handed over to a shit studio which lead to the series being killed and the studio shut down, Dragon Age 4 was going to be severely understaffed too. EA just knows Bioware's time is up and they can't salvage themselves with Anthem.
71e7b9 No.14533473
90e788 No.14533489
In a way I'm kinda looking forward to seeing just how they one up the shitfest that inquisition was.
7cb538 No.14533497
Dragon Age was a one hit wonder with Origins mostly because that is the only one that feels like an rpg. There is branching paths, endgame consequences, somewhat believable characters and an interesting, if uninspired, threat. You could make actual builds based around your stats and the abilities you chose for your character. you are retarded if you think mages are OP. Archers can take down the biggest of enemies with one to two abilities, and that's not including the apocalypse tier ones awakening give you.
216ae8 No.14533500
>>14533470
What a waste. Dragon age could've been a decent game if they built on the first game (which did some good things and did others really wrong) instead of changing it completely
1d8da8 No.14533504
>>14533470
>implying EA will allow a Dragon Age 4 after the disappointments that were and will be Mass Effect:Andromeda and Anthem.
95ff83 No.14533508
I want to watch them burn
33310f No.14533510
>>14533470
I'm just happy BioWare will release another turd to laugh about. Andromeda was a masterpiece in that regard.
>>14533497
>a one hit wonder
It was nostalgia bait, a lifeless, watered down Baldur's Gate clone that played like ass.
2d876a No.14533513
>>14533470
I can't wait until EA finally just kills them. This process has been drawn out way too long.
33310f No.14533516
>>14533504
Anon, these are the same idiots that let Andromeda fester in development for 5 years despite knowing full well what a terrible piece of shit it was.
>>14533513
The tumblr tears will be delicious, that's for sure.
c1cf8f No.14533528
Wasn't Anthem all prerendered stuff?
There is no game and Bioware is going to be shut down for good after it releases, or maybe even before that if EA decides it's not worth the trouble.
>>14533500
>>14533510
It was a decent game.
A bit casual, because it was a new market and consoles were involved, but it did some things right.
Key word here being some.
Instead of fixing their shit and improving, they just fucked it all up.
33310f No.14533534
>>14533528
It was boring as shit. Mechanics and gameplay aside it put me to fucking sleep. It manages to be even more generic than Forgotten Realms but just throws in random gore, profanity and sex to appear edgy. It was the bad and pretentious kind of juvenile.
6889f4 No.14533535
ME:A was a piece of shit but it was a financial success. Despite all the memes and e-celebs making fun of it the plebs still bought it.
That makes me wonder why EA decided to kill the franchise. Either they were lying about their earnings, or they decided to call it quits after two suspect and controversial games in a row, or maybe it was just a prelude to BioWare getting the axe.
025a31 No.14533538
>>14533510
DA Origins was the only game out of the entire series that I actually enjoyed enough to play all the way through.
33310f No.14533549
>>14533535
>ME:A was a piece of shit but it was a financial success
>EA released total hours played instead of units sold
Yeah, it failed miserably. In fact, it failed so bad the studio that made it got shut down and BioWare is a game away from being closed off entirely.
Are you fucking retarded?
>>14533538
That's no big achievement considering the other two were DA2 and Inquisition. I enjoyed FO3 more than FO4, doesn't mean both aren't putrid garbage.
40caa7 No.14533555
>>14533535
Andromeda didn't do well enough to EA's expectations and sold a little over 2 million copies. By contrast, Horizon Zero Dawn released 7 millions and is considered a success, specially for a new IP.
I don't think you could a game a success when the studio that made it ended up shut down.
2d876a No.14533567
>>14533535
>ME:A was a piece of shit but it was a financial success.
It was so successful, they shut down the studio that developed it. As we all know, that's EA's way of congratulating a studio for financial success.
85e8ec No.14533571
>>14533470
Dragon Age was crap from the start tbh.
4a6420 No.14533573
Dragon Age painted itself into a corner with Origins. The blight and the darkspawn horde were a much more interesting threat to the world because they were essentially a force of nature. They had nowhere to go from there so they tried the Red Lyrium idea and that failed horribly.
6889f4 No.14533578
>>14533567
Maybe not, but EA is known for casually killing off its studios. Apart from any theoretical success there was extensive coverage of how disastrous the game's development was and how BioWare Montreal bungled the whole thing. That's another good reason to shut down the studio that made ME:A.
fc7726 No.14533624
>>14533508
For all the other studios EA killed, I shed a tear. But for them, I will not.
1a03d0 No.14533650
>>14533470
>It'll be good this time!
Bioware fags are the republicans of gaming.
14b977 No.14533654
>>14533650
who are the democrats, then?
f154d1 No.14533658
Cole, Blackwall, Ironbull, Cassandra, and Varric are perfectly fine companions. Solas is annoying because he's always right. Dorian is fine except for the whole "daddy won't except I'm gay" side mission. Vivanne is annoying because she's stereotypical noblemwoman but she's a nigger. Sera is the worst thing to happen to rpgs she's a man hating dyke with a man face (ironic), the entire redjenny orginazation shes part of is retarted and should not be able to function, she sounds like crap, her dialog is hilariously terrible, and she acts like quirky lol so random white girl, sera needs to fuckin die.
1a03d0 No.14533662
>>14533654
All other big studio supporters
216ae8 No.14533664
14b977 No.14533676
>>14533658
>Cole
>good
>not an edgy self-insert whose sole purpose in life is to moralfag
092306 No.14533678
>>14533470
Dragon Age hasn't been good since Origins and Bioware hasn't' made a good game in over six years
726272 No.14533684
It looks pretty likely that the 4th game isn't going to happen and Inquisition was the end of it. All I wanted was one last hurrah with my Grey Warden. Oh well… BioWare's been on a downward trajectory for a long, long time.
07b2b3 No.14533690
>>14533470
Fuck me. I keep confusing Bioware's Laidlaw with Valve's Laidlaw.
33310f No.14533702
>>14533658
>Cole, Blackwall, Ironbull, Cassandra, and Varric
>perfectly fine companions
>the intelligence of the average BioWare fan
17f29a No.14533708
>>14533573
Why couldn't they just redo the whole blight-shit but in a different country/continent?
I dont remember much about it anymore but if i understood correctly the blight was a kind of thing that was allways coming again and again and again eventually, you may beat the corrupted? dragon leading it in some place but eventually somewhere else it begins anew when a monster big enough gets corrupted or something something.
Didn't they have this France themed country near Ferelden? Orlais or something, should've just moved 2nd game there or somewhere else and basically cut most ties to the previous game ie npc/characters.
e64b61 No.14533719
>>14533676
If you actually played the game you'd know he's far more an emo ghost dude people forget when they stop interacting with him and he can hear thoughts. The only edgy thing he usually does is he kills people who are suffering
7cb538 No.14533722
>>14533708
The Blight is a world shaking event that takes the combined armies of Thedas to purge. The Darkspawn, when not in a Blight, dig and mine and search for an Archdemon, which are supposedly the reincarnation of the old Tevineter mages or old gods or some bullshit like that. There's supposed to be around 13 of them and the one in Origins was the 8th, I think. Some think that an archdemon is just an undead high dragon that was tainted by the darkspawn, so they can go on forever if they wanted to.
e77b9b No.14533727
>>14533535
>it was a financial success.
7cb538 No.14533729
>>14533722
*Tevinter
Don't know how I missed that.
b39075 No.14533736
>play Dragon Age
>roll blood mage
>Alistair doesn't say shit
>actually, no one says shit
>mfw
Into the fucking trash it went, DA was always shit.
5fe800 No.14533740
All I remember about the first game was that every character was a passive aggressive faggot and the end credits song made me cringe. The demo for 2 was so hilariously awful that I didn't even bother.
93a367 No.14533751
>>14533736
Remind me of this.
17f29a No.14533753
>>14533722
>There's supposed to be around 13 of them and the one in Origins was the 8th, I think
So shouldn't they just have made the next game set centuries in the future with the 9th blight coming up?
14b977 No.14533757
>>14533719
>emo ghost dude people forget when they stop interacting with him and he can hear thoughts.
what part of this isn't edgy?
4a6420 No.14533765
>>14533736
wait didn't the old lady mage have a problem if you went blood mage? I think I remember killing her over that.
Also killing Leliana because I pissed on Andraste's urn
5fe800 No.14533768
>>14533753
>actually writing fantasy stories on a mythical scale
Someone get this hothead out of here. Don't you know the setting is supposed to be window dressing for young adult drama bullshit with a peppering of contemporary political allegories?
092306 No.14533771
>>14533765
>Also killing Leliana because I pissed on Andraste's urn
not like it matters since she comes back anyway
b39075 No.14533780
>>14533765
Yeah there might be a few one offs where it happens. I always quit once I have to get past the dwarven city because by god if DA isn't one of the most boring pieces of shit I have ever played.
e64b61 No.14533794
>>14533757
He's emo, not edgy. His dialog is very emotional, with him mostly repeating or describing people thoughts/emotions/memories, while doing some physical gestures similar to mentally handicap people.
17f29a No.14533846
>>14533780
> I always quit once I have to get past the dwarven city
Funny, i thought the dwarven city and Deep roads in particular were the best places of the whole game.
I also liked the Fade
4ccea2 No.14533859
>>14533535
>>14533578
It was so successful, they cancelled all the DLC they had planned.
Don't write shit if you have no idea what you're talking about, anon. That's rude.
7cb538 No.14533860
>>14533753
I would have liked that. Combined with the idea of intelligent and infighting darkspawn in Awakening, you could have made some really good games around that. If you helped the architect in Awakening, then maybe there was a huge schism that split the darkspawn in two, a rogue group who will raid human and spawn alike and the main blight. Could have some teaming up with the rogue group making the fight with the archdemon easier or if you killed the architect, the intelligent ones just went back to the main horde making the battle harder in the next game. Bioware is really good at making missed opportunities.
5fe800 No.14533870
>>14533846
They were tolerable because they had little to no dialogue.
8156e0 No.14533877
>Biocucks spent alot of their time shitting on Japan while their fav studio was still "good"
>Now this shit happens to them
>Most of them accept it and become soyboys
Btw this is the "ff7 has always sucked" crowd. The faggots like Adam Sessler and his ilk. Look at them all now.
5fe800 No.14533887
>>14533877
This is a company that prides themselves on "meaningful choices" while getting outdone by a Sonic game after all.
83fbc4 No.14533901
>>14533859
Because they closed the studio? There’s still a skeleton crew making multiplayer DLC because microtransactions keep the money rolling in longterm.
17f29a No.14533918
>>14533870
Well that's true, i liked them because it was like an "adventure" of sort instead of TALK TALK TALK around every corner. They were a relaxing change of space to just go through and mow enemies down.
>>14533860
It feels like when it comes to story/lore/plot in vidya, everyone wants to constantly re-invent the wheel instead of just taking what worked/they ran in the previous iteration and just doing it all over again just with different characters&setting.
If there's one thing i like about jrpg's, it's that most sequels are usually just more of the same ie what got me to the game-series in the first place.
de75cf No.14533971
You brought this on yourself, Bioware.
a4f1b8 No.14534361
>>14533528
>Wasn't Anthem all prerendered stuff?
They've only released a trailer for the reveal at E3 last year. Nothing about the story or the universe since. The small glimpse at gameplay was vertical slice with fake buddies voice over.
Expect zero interesting character or compelling story. Anthem is another co-op game like Destiny where everybody is the hero (so no one really is).
55f74f No.14534382
Origins was pretty good. They made DA after that? I had no idea.
e32244 No.14534399
7366ab No.14534410
All suggests that EA are indeed preparing to throw Bioware on the bonfire at last.
99412b No.14534414
>end of faggotage and bioware
a4f1b8 No.14534499
What happened to Hamburger Hepler?
3832b2 No.14534551
>>14534499
she left Bioware and later single-handedly tanked a kickstarter project
092306 No.14534556
>>14534361
I'm very excited to see that game crash hard. I expect it will take the entire studio with it.
8c9f3c No.14534570
Oh boy, can't wait to play as another emotionless retard railroaded into becoming another chosen one of the week, spurred along by a managerie of fish-eyed, fanfic-tier, self insert characters who I'll instantly come to dispise. I wonder how they'll manage to make the quests and RPG mechanics even more boring this time. I wonder what colour the generic bad guys made out of goo/crystals/dust will be this time. I wonder what kind of tumblr haircut the single fuckable romance will have this time.
I really fucking wonder.
I bought Inquisition
2f4c45 No.14534645
Dragon Age and Mass Effect are PERFECT examples of how appealing to SJW's and simultaneously sucking corporate dick leads you down a path of failure.
None of us are surprised, but I bet there's a lot of dumbfounded faggots who sincerely don't get it.
Also, never forget TORtanic.
22d470 No.14534651
>>14533497
They took DAO and removed what worked and then took a big shit on it rather than improving the game. It was such a major fuck you to anyone that had fun with the first game. There was a lot wrong with it, but it had potential to improve. When Bethesda started trying to use the sex mods as a selling point, it just put extra cringe on even owning their games. It would be like if Bethesda ever actually acknowledged the sex mods and tried to use them as a selling point. It wouldn't end well and would only come across as pathetic. That is what happened to DA after origins.
>>14533658
Bringing in sjw shit into an rpg is the worst thing anyone can do. People get enough of that shit in real life. They don't need it in their vidya as well.
829d83 No.14534672
>>14533470
>Dragon Age Inquisition a game about a chosen one who has an odd power.
>This chosen one will fight and ancient evil in a fantasy open world rpg.
>It's basically Skyrim but somehow WORSE.
>Had a girl calling herself a man because she liked wearing guys clothes. That is not a man that is just a boob tranny.
>Elf with autism.
>Plastic facial hair.
>Made a big deal about the protagonist of Dragon Age 2. You know that game even Biodrones hate.
After that I really don't give a single fuck about anything Bioshit does.
19ae54 No.14534673
I just came in here to gloat about how I've never purchased a Dragon Age game.
I did rent DA:O from Blockbuster and never returned it.. so I still have a copy of that, and I rented DA:II but it was all I could do just to force my way though to the end of it so that fucker definitely went back. Haven't touched a Bioware game since.
e6fa0b No.14534694
>>14534645
>never forget TORtanic
>Agent story, widely regarded as the best in the entire game and good even on its own, was written by a white, longhaired pic related nerd
>starts with the Agent masterfully switching accents in his voice, playing multiple pawns against each other for his own gain, and culminates with the Agent finding and stealing the Magical Maguffin and simply disappearing into the shadows
>it's basically one of the best James Bond In Space stories ever written and I mean this 100% unironically
>Smuggler story, proudly written by Hamburger Helper, is a complete fucking dumpster fire that begins with you being hoodwinked out of your ship because you're retarded
>Has the Smuggler face off against Standard Villain Trope named Voidwolf and eventually blow him up, freeing the Smuggler to once again be completely unimportant trash
3832b2 No.14534762
>>14534672
>ancient evil
It's a shame that Corypheus wasn't written better or in another game/series entirely; he was pretty much the only thing I liked in DA2 aside from gutting Anders like a fish.
I like how he was confused and unaware of the passage of time when he woke up. In the hands of a decent writer, he could have become an interesting antagonist, but he ended up becoming a mustache-twirling villain in Cisquisition.
a095fb No.14534765
Why did they bother making anything after ME1/DA:O? All they did was rape the original writing and sodomize whatever soul was left in the franchises.
>>14533765
That was cut content actually And there's a few mods that switch it back on. It was fucking satisfying to kill Gregoir and first enchanter douchebag.. Can't have actual choices and consequences, now can we?
1204f5 No.14534794
>>14534694
I'm so fucking sad that the Agent storyline is stuck behind the Tortanic. That shit deserves to have its own game, like alpha protocol but actually playable. They could even fix things that were bad with the original. Like the existence of kaylio, or not being able give scorpio an organic dicking.
1d8da8 No.14534806
>>14534570
I want to laugh at you but I did too, picked it up used for about eight bucks. Played it through once, beat it and put it on the shelf where it has gathered dust since May of 2016.
6889f4 No.14534812
>mfw bioware reduced mass effect to trannies and asari talking about their pronouns like they spend all day on tumblr
>mfw bioware quickly patched out the tranny "deadnaming" xirself before actual bug fixes
I'm glad ME is dead and BioWare is next
e6fa0b No.14534814
>>14534794
now that it's f2p, i honestly wouldn't judge a single person for subscribing for the month or so just to see the agent story through, because it honestly is one of my favourite gaming stories in recent memory except for that mind control part, that was fucking stupid as hell
2f4c45 No.14534821
>>14534812
>>mfw bioware quickly patched out the tranny "deadnaming" xirself before actual bug fixes
WAIT, THAT HAPPENED?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
19ae54 No.14534823
>>14534694
>Never heard of this poor fuck in my life
>Heard of Hamburger Helper because "Vagina power in Game Design" being trumpeted from the media rooftops as if women haven't been major contributors to game design and development for the past 40 years now.
Tell me again Anita, how's that boy's club muh patriarchy gatekeeping keepin wimmins down coming along?
e32244 No.14534842
>>14534812
>>14534821
Yeah, for all that they'll use the gay community as a shield to hide from criticism behind, they don't actually give one single shit about it. Remember that they're the people who coined "there is no such thing as gay in Star Wars."
40caa7 No.14534867
>>14534821
That was actually the only thing they formally apologized for on Twitter. Shows where their priorities were.
3832b2 No.14534870
>>14534842
>Remember that they're the people who coined "there is no such thing as gay in Star Wars."
I completely forgot that they added a "gay planet" to SWTOR.
e32244 No.14534875
>>14534870
Oh, Christ, I had too. Bioware are just the most wonderful, magical clusterfuck of a studio.
2f4c45 No.14534878
>>14534870
>>14534870
>THE GAY COMMUNITY: the planet
holy fuck
this shit never gets old
e77b9b No.14534880
>>14534870
Can EA for once do us a solid and just fucking kill these hacks off ASAP?
2f4c45 No.14534889
>>14534880
EA has kept Bioware alive longer than Westwood.
1d8da8 No.14534912
>>14534880
Bioware is EA's "rainbow shield". Without their making "progressive" games, EA can't deflect valid criticism with cries of "homophobia" or "racism"
e6e191 No.14534914
>>14533470
Mandatory .webm
7232ba No.14534918
>>14534880
That's what a company that's merely greedy would do. EA is straight up evil and they're probably keeping them alive just to be dicks.
a4f1b8 No.14534924
Is there a good video out there that would explain everything about TORtanic? (I'm not talking about memes but the real story behind the failure of the game)
>>14534812
>>14534821
They patched the character's lines 2 times before they completely removed the dialogue option.
90e788 No.14534935
>>14534880
Even if they did the gender studies majors would just get moved somewhere else.
46f702 No.14534944
>>14534880
>implying they're not saving them to fall on the blade called Anthem
2be629 No.14534948
>tfw you didn't fall for the Bioware meme
e77b9b No.14534949
>>14534918
Even fucking EA must be sick of Bioware's shit at this point.
a4f1b8 No.14534963
19ae54 No.14535011
>>14534944
>>implying they're not saving them to fall on the blade called Anthem
Well, the game does have a "10 year roadmap". Once the base game is finished, EA could ship the game off to a contract developer for updates using the design notes. Then they have a Bioware game that will last them for the next decade and literally have no need of Bioware as a company anymore. They'll probably still keep the name, but the entire studio will be downgraded to two assholes in a tiny office running middleman coordination for the contract work. They get to keep the Bioware name and pretend their still a division, milk a 10 year MTX cash cow, and not have to pay a development staff or need to make any new games. Once Anthem runs it's course, whether it's sooner or later - then EA will have no use for the shell company and can dispose of the studio proper.
I mean, my suggestion would be to just block the fire exits during crunch time, set the place on fire, and blame it on some rogue stressed employee smoking in the bathroom. Might be some fallout, but it wouldn't be the first time EA fucked the industry for a little short-term gain. Unfortunately, the Triangle Shirtwaist guys already tried that and ruined it.
00978f No.14535058
>>14533470
>EA kills studios you loved
>Still wont kill Bioware
JUST DO IT ALREADY YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS.
27ebab No.14535067
27ebab No.14535073
>>14534551
Holy shit! That's golden!
8276fe No.14535082
>>14533480
my friends and i tried to start a game dev club at college and something like this almost happened
27ebab No.14535095
>>14535082
You should have given CoC a run for their cummies.
049abc No.14535100
GENDER REASSIGNMENTS
DIVERSITY
TRANSGENDER CHARACTERS
TUMBLR WINS AGAIN
6889f4 No.14535104
>>14534924
>They patched the character's lines 2 times before they completely removed the dialogue option.
So basically now the NPC doesn't mention they're a tranny at all? I bet they realized SJWs would never be happy so they just said fuck it and stopped trying to virtue signal.
2f4c45 No.14535105
>>14535100
>"we want the tumblr audience!"
<they still don't play their games
8276fe No.14535111
>>14535095
not from a fucking college-sanctioned club
b0216a No.14535152
a4f1b8 No.14535166
>>14535104
>So basically now the NPC doesn't mention they're a tranny at all?
Correct.
9d85dd No.14535171
>>14535011
Have you heard how bad the game is shaping up?
>Developed with Anita Sarkesian
>Frostbite still a shit engine that is nearly impossible to work with
>trailer isn't how game is going to work
>it's an arena shooter, go to area, fight enemies, go to next, rinse and repeat
>several top talent has already jumped ship
>literally shit version of warframe without sex appeal
This game is going to be dead on arrival and Bioware employees know it. They know their careers are over once the studio goes under because of how absolutely abysmal their reputation is. They're now actively whining about how people talk trash about them and how they can't hold their head up high.
2f4c45 No.14535221
>>14535171
What's funnier is knowing all the "TOTALLY NOT PAID OFF U GUISE" articles that are going to come out.
>Is This the Warframe Killer We All Didn't Know We Wanted?
>Move Over Destiny, BioWare is Back!
>Finally, FPS's are Good Again!
>Have Shooters Finally Moved Past Their Sexist Roots?
>Can BioWare Get Any Better? Yes, They Can! [cue picture of Anita in "Yes we can!" pose for article]
etc
I hope one of you glorious fuckers will screencap all these articles and then show them side by side with the inevitable cliff drop in sales.
I'm already feeling smug.
3832b2 No.14535240
>>14535171
>>14535221
>mfw it somehow bombs harder than Battleborn or Lawbreakers
e6fa0b No.14535247
>>14534870
>Star Wars game segregates gay characters onto gay planet
e46e79 No.14535349
Am I the only one amazed that this shit franchise actually started with a good game?
>Dragon Age 1
>Classic style RPG with classic combat
>Decent writing and graphics
>Decent amount of content
a4f1b8 No.14535353
>>14535171
>Frostbite still a shit engine that is nearly impossible to work with
It's really sad that EA is forcing every one of their studios to use that engine.
>it's an arena shooter
It's a looter shooter, not an arena shooter.
>literally shit version of warframe without sex appeal
So far it looks like Destiny with Iron Man suits.
>>14535221
It's going to be hard to shill for it though.
e6fa0b No.14535368
>>14535349
what's so surprising? mass effect 1 was actually pretty good too, and look what that became
151ac7 No.14535372
>>14535349
story branched out nicely too, according to your choices. I was competely shit at it but I soldiered on and sat tru it twice. It was a good game.
e46e79 No.14535423
>>14535171
>Arena shooter
Why does no one these days know what this word means?
97c414 No.14535625
>>14535349
it's not that shocking. it was slightly before es jay dubyoohs started wrecking the gaming industry along with western society, so Bioware was still alright. formulaic as fuck, but alright.
d3b460 No.14535660
>>14533470
>Ultimately, Laidlaw felt it was time to leave BioWare behind regardless of Dragon Age's loose threads.
that's funny because he was fired
d3b460 No.14535668
>>14533510
>It was nostalgia bait, a lifeless, watered down Baldur's Gate clone that played like ass.
It was one of the best RPGs in the last decade, your retro-active hate for biowar must have rotted your tiny brain.
866f67 No.14535675
>>14535668
a game can be watered-down Baldur's Gate and still be one of the best WRPGs of the last decade.
That's how low the fucking bar is now.
The good shit in DAO came from the designers thinking
>let's just do BG2 but in 3d, also now the storyline is just 'here come the orcs'
d3b460 No.14535693
>>14535675
The bar is so low that even utter shit like dvinity origins is considered good around here.
274ecd No.14535694
>>14533573
Bullshit. Their plot was just uninspired and incredibly limited. The sequel could have had the after-effects of the consequences of the blight, even on other nations if they wanted to place it elsewhere. For example, the "red lyrium" could have been a byproduct of the blight that was being manafactured mysteriously by the tevinter to increase their magical abilities, but at great costs. The plot could revolve around Tevinter and its mage lords, and the political battles and fallout due to this red lyrium being smuggled in and its effects on the courts and continent.
5703bd No.14535749
>>14535675
>a game can be watered-down Baldur's Gate
How the fuck is DA:O in any way a watered down Baldur's Gate?
2d876a No.14535762
>>14535694
Whoa, that almost sounds like a good idea. Good work kid, but we're not allowed to have those here, not since 2007 anyway. You obviously aren't a good fit for our family, so pack your bags - your cubicle is going to our newest POC transfeminist hire, Jamal Lewisdom Wakanda.
1daf70 No.14536164
>>14535693
Divinity origins is a fine game you contrarian shit.
33310f No.14536178
>>14536164
The writing is fucking abysmal. Larian should finally figure out they're shit at comedy and try something different for a change.
1daf70 No.14536184
>>14536178
Gameplay is still passable and that's what really matters.
75a89f No.14536196
>>14534870
Is name of the planed Sodom? Or Weimar?
5703bd No.14536216
>>14536178
>The writing is fucking abysmal
Good thing its a fucking video game then you fart sniffing mongoloid.
a85d41 No.14536220
>>14536216
If you didn't already like the game you wouldn't defend it's quality in such a way. Don't make excuses.
a85d41 No.14536223
>>14536196
>no weimar republic faggot twink rape gang clockwork orange raising sim
fml
33310f No.14536224
>>14536184
That's a shit excuse you dumb fanboy. It's an RPG where they clearly went the extra length with the story, characters and choices, yet it all reads like putrid trash.
>>14536216
>says this in an RPG thread mocking BioWare for their shit writing
How does it feel to be dumber than a nigger?
5703bd No.14536240
>>14536224
>>says this in an RPG thread mocking BioWare for their shit writing
And? The writing in Divinity origins is miles ahead of Bioware drivel. It is also a good game instead of being a glorified cookie clicker.
>>14536220
>If you didn't already like the game you wouldn't defend it's quality in such a way
No shit. Good job cementing your mongoloid intellect.
33310f No.14536255
>>14536240
>asshurt Larian cuckboy sperging out
No, it wasn't better than BioWare writing. At least Inquisition was unintentionally funny with how godawful every character and line of dialogue was, while with Larian you could tell they were trying extra hard to be witty and failing miserably at every turn. It got so fucking bad I just skipped all dialogue just to get it over with, and the gameplay is not good enough to make up for the shit writing.
5703bd No.14536278
>>14536255
>No, it wasn't better than BioWare writing
>this is what biodrones actually believe
your shitty company isn't even worthy of writing dimestore novels and only survived for so long on govenrment subsidies. Now that the gravy train is over your subpar video games aren't going to cut it.
33310f No.14536300
>>14536278
I guess you're so mad you can't even read correctly. Here, let me quote myself:
>At least Inquisition was unintentionally funny with how godawful every character and line of dialogue was
I'm not a BioWare fan, they're shit, but so is Larian's writing, on top of being unfunny. Practice at reading comprehension you dumbfuck and tell Swen to actually hire some good writers for once, they're eight games in and none of them have had anything remotely resembling good storytelling.
5703bd No.14536324
>>14536300
>I am not a fanboy
>but let me defend my shitty company at every turn
yeah nah fuck off
The fact that something is godawful isn't a mark of quality you shit eating faggot.
33310f No.14536333
>>14536324
>The fact that something is godawful isn't a mark of quality
51d642 No.14536344
Dragon Age was never good.
1fda06 No.14536371
bioware was never good
>huuur this character is christian therefore xenophobic
9b4bbe No.14536402
>>14534912
>>14534935
These anons are correct. Bioware is a containment studio. I say let these maggots feed upon the carcass as long as they want instead of letting them spread.
1d75c1 No.14536413
>>14533470
I enjoyed DA:I on nightmare difficulty. It was actually fun. More fun than FFXV even, which was a braindead game with no tactical thought needed.
You should try it once. Its not that terrible as people make it up to be.
33310f No.14536427
>>14536402
Who in their right mind is going to hire them? Curry Thunder, after having his contract finished went off to work on some retarded indie turd no one has heard anything about since. The Hamburger hasn't found a job in the industry since quitting BioWare. Gayder quit BioWare, joined Beamdog and quit a year afterwards and hasn't been working in the industry since.
Hepler and Gayder both were pretty (in)famous and had a "respectable" resume, yet no one wants to touch them. Now, if people don't want anything to do with industry veterans such as those two why would they hire the talentless hacks that didn't dare quit BioWare because they know no one else would hire them?
>>14536413
>Its not that terrible as people make it up to be.
Yes, yes it is.
d474cc No.14536434
>>14536413
>You should try it once
nice try reddit. the fact they sold ENDING as DLC is very telling where are their priorities. kill yourself.
5e2b76 No.14536577
Who cares about Dragon Age after the first one? You'd have to be a massive cuck to be playing these games. Stop purchasing these SJW garbage games, you fucking niggers.
>>14536413
No you didn't you fucking liar, Nightmare mode was easy shit even new players complained about the difficulty when it was released that it was too easy. Lying sack of shit.
33310f No.14536668
>>14536577
Honestly, only RPGs I'm looking forward to are Evenicle for that sweet, sweet polygamy and the sci-fi one VD's got cooking. Here's hoping GW doesn't fuck up that new Mechanicus as well though I know they will.
2d876a No.14536690
>>14536427
>religious zealots who routinely kill heretics burst into the room as a man is getting fucked by an Islamic minotaur
>"Do enjoy yourselves."
Fucking hell, they can't get anything right, can they?
5e2b76 No.14536696
>>14536668
If that game is anything like Rance, Kamidori or Bunny Black then it should be good. I was dismissing those games as weebshit, but after having played them, they really are great, especially Rance. Don't place any hope on GW. What sci-fi game from VD?
5fe800 No.14536789
>>14535423
Yeah you never actually shoot at the arena, what the fuck.
72c29b No.14536829
>>14534949
Not unless they really are evil and get a kick out of raping thai-kids while someone reads the Bioware numbers out loud not to mention a slideshow with the biodevs most pathetic tweets.
000000 No.14536855
>>14533497
Go play the Thirst module for DAO: https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/3496
DAO campaign wishes it could be this well-designed.
7cb538 No.14536876
>>14536855
Dragon Age mods remind me of NWN. The player made campaigns are some of the best shit ever made for an RPG while the base games are average written vehicles for their sex simulators.
33310f No.14536880
>>14536876
What are some other good player made campaigns for DAO?
900da6 No.14536934
Like bioware is going to last long enough to release dragon age 4. Lmao.
36a1a9 No.14536947
>>14536577
>Heavy-breathing-intensifies the post.
>You filthy casuals RRREEEEE
6889f4 No.14536958
>no pre- and post-nuclear-war tuchanka where you play the same character and get to see krogan civilization shortly before they nuked it to ash and then how the krogan adapted to scraping out a living on their irradiated dustball
>game ends as the salarians make first contact and propose uplifting the krogan
>because muh human protagonist
But here's some gays and trannies in another galaxy. Enjoy!
7cb538 No.14536971
>>14536880
I haven't played much of them, and I don't know if it is actually finished yet, but there was that one that I think took place after the events of Dragon Age. I tried searching for it but I couldn't find anything.
kek. I also found this mod that's basically about watching two elves have lesbo sex. https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/4202 Bioware really does attract the worst of the worst sometimes.
33310f No.14536986
>>14536958
>wanting more games set in a gayer version of Star Trek
>not wishing for an inquisition game set in an original setting where you go around purging degenerates and heretics with your harem of battle nuns
Ingest more soy.
>>14536971
>Bioware really does attract the worst of the worst sometimes.
Their fault for pandering to tumblr. I remember BioWare nuking the romance subforum because it had gotten so cancerous not even they could tolerate it anymore.
36a1a9 No.14537001
>>14536986
>go around purging degenerates and heretics with your harem of battle nuns
We wont live to see culture in which that setting would be PC enough
000000 No.14537047
>>14536880
Dunno. DAO has very few player-made campaigns because Bioware used a proprietary lightmapper for their game which didn't come with the modtools (they have a really lame lightmapper instead). As a result if you ever make a custom level, it will look like horribly dated complete shit. People tried rerendering DAO's levels with the toolset and they all looked so fucking horrible it wasn't worth it. Thirst's level designer compensated for the hideous lightmapper by dropping light sources all over his maps, but I think you can still notice that the graphics look worse than the normal game. Anyway, between the shit lightmapper that makes everything look like a godawful, butt-ugly amateur job, the significantly increased complexity of handling the DAO toolset as opposed to NWN1 or even NWN2, and the cutscene-only dialogue system which makes voice-overs feel almost mandatory to not seem half-assed, there weren't a whole lot of modders interested in making modules for DAO where the amount of labor was higher and the end-result would look like an all-around half-assed job.
Thirst is worth checking out though, and it's very high on the replay value since there are all kinds of different ways you can play through it with major consequences based on what you did.
33310f No.14537069
>>14537047
I wish someone would do what NWN (and go the extra mile) and release a "game" solely focused around allowing players to easily build their own modules. Something with the ease of use of nuDoom's snapmap but with a released source code so you can go as deep as you want.
000000 No.14537164
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14533736
They deleted that shit because EA was a bunch of pussies and didn't like the idea of punishing people for making gameplay choices. DAO got casualized in some really shitty ways.
a4f1b8 No.14537479
>>14536958
TBH I would've liked a spin off based on the First Contact War.
1d8da8 No.14537974
>>14536371
I assume you’re talking about Ashley from ME1? Here’s the thing, the fact that the story treats her as a person with a different opinion instead of an unreasonable baby killing Nazi means that old Bioware is still leaps and bounds ahead of current Bioware.
>B-but agreeing with her is the ebil option
And? Only cucks play Paragon.
a90dad No.14538091
>>14533470
No using Intimidate to fuck a demon girl, no pirate.
a4f1b8 No.14538295
>>14533470
Will Cassandra finally achieve her transition in Dragon Age 4?
5fe800 No.14538979
>>14538295
There's a rather popular pov blowjob video on pornhub from an alleged tranny whom I swear to god they modeled that character's face after.
33310f No.14539038
>>14538979
They modeled Morrigan after a tranny cosplayer in Inquisition so it wouldn't surprise me.
cfc90f No.14539201
He left Valve to go to Bioware of all places?
And then left Bioware?
wtf
8317cd No.14539226
>>14533470
I liked Origins, but that's it.
Played the demo for two and didn't want to continue the series after that.
03e901 No.14539256
>>14534812
>Fixed "deadnaming" before bug fixes…..
01005f No.14539279
>>14533535
>but it was a financial success.
Bullshit, it got a -25% slash in 2nd week, they cancelled all planned DLC and killed the studio (which was not Bioware central).
000000 No.14539519
>>14535058
We gotta kill Anthem and DA4 to make it happen.
887503 No.14539769
>>14533535
Lol with that marketing budget? no way.
a4f1b8 No.14539795
>>14534812
The funny thing is that they stopped caring about the game in less than six months after release. There are still a lot of bugs that aren't fixed like the enemies who spawn into the floor or into the rocks/hills and who can still hit you.
>>14538979
sauce?
3ee517 No.14539806
>>14535111 (Checked)
>>14535082
Well go on then, tell the story.
532e28 No.14539887
Can we agree that Wolfe is probably the second worst character in Dragon Age for being such a Mary Sue faggot with Sera probably being the worst?
>>14533846
Funny thing is in Origins, Dwarfs are the best race in DA. They're not cucked like elves, and at least Dwarfs know they're ass-holes who will kill each other if they have to (Even the "noble" dwarfs are dicks). I can't recall a single, likable human npc in the game.
>consequences
Didn't you get dicked over for not following Bioware's Mary Sue path in Origins? It's like they forced you to put up with Alistair's faggotry if you didn't want to resort to shitty tank replacements or whatever.
000000 No.14539900
>>14539887
>Can we agree that Wolfe is probably the second worst character in Dragon Age for being such a Mary Sue faggot with Sera probably being the worst?
No idea who Wolfe is. But Sera is one hell of an unlikable retarded brat.
>Funny thing is in Origins, Dwarfs are the best race in DA. They're not cucked like elves, and at least Dwarfs know they're ass-holes who will kill each other if they have to (Even the "noble" dwarfs are dicks). I can't recall a single, likable human npc in the game.
Also they have a free +10% spell resistance just for being a Dwarf while other races get no racials, just stats. The downside of playing a Dwarf though is that you can't be a Mage, which is acknowledged to be DAO's true master race.
Fun fact btw: Credit where it's due, Hepler wrote the entire dwarven setting in DAO, which was probably the one interesting unique thing about the whole game.
7cb538 No.14539916
>>14539900
That explains the whole "muh lower caste and surface dwarfs are being OPPRESSED" nonsense. Why should the nobles bother trying to clean up the garbage in the underworld? Also, as shown by many parts of the game, it looks like surface dwarfs get a really solid life as (((merchants))) selling trinkets and dwarfen weapons to humans and elves.
a85d41 No.14539929
>>14539900
>Hepler wrote the entire dwarven setting in DAO, which was probably the one interesting unique thing about the whole game.
She just ripped off Pratchett's dwarves, who were just Jews.
000000 No.14539980
>>14539916
DAO didn't actually do the "lower caste dwarves are being OPPRESSED" nonsense. Not sure there was any bitching on the part of the servant caste or shit. It did say that the casteless had a fucking awful deal, but that made sense given that the whole point of being casteless is that you get shat on and have no real rights. Surface dwarves weren't really oppressed either though. They could still trade in Orzammar and they seemed to have a pretty solid life topside.
>>14539929
>anon's brain is on jews again
DAO's dwarves are honestly a lot less gold-obsessed than your average fantasy dwarf.
5172af No.14540037
>>14533658
>the entire redjenny orginazation shes part of is retarted and should not be able to function
Elaborate? I didn't get that far.
7cb538 No.14540070
>>14539980
Maybe I'm not remembering right, but I recall one of the main political points between Harrowmont and Behlen was the welfare of surfacers and casteless. Don't quote me on this, but Harrowmont was the staunch traditional and Behlen took a more corrupt liberal stance on things.
257e98 No.14540082
Reminder that mages belong in the dirt, and poxy blighters who say otherwise deserve a place right next to them.
6f5232 No.14540121
>>14539980
>>14540070
Harrowmont was a major traditionalist but also was fairly corrupt himself. His whole position was based on what was most likely a lie - that the prior King had wished for him to take the throne after his death. If he was put into power, he would put in some help against the Blight, and then immediately begin to seal things up. This was a problem because the Dwarves culture essentially meant you were born into a job and then fucked - in other words, little better than the Qunari, or any other pseudo-communist bullshit. It was also a doomed proposition - the Dwarves had already lost almost everything to the Darkspawn, and were barely holding what little territory they still did.
Bhelen was probably the more corrupt, but his stance was oriented more towards both expanding Dwarven influence, with the hope of gaining human aid and then putting it to use in clearing out the Deep Roads. Merchants would be freer to return home, and the Castleless would be able to go back to working - meaning more Dwarves working or fighting Darkspawn, plus the removal of the biggest source of crime. He's absolutely ruthless, and will kill anyone who threatens his political legitimacy.
As far as OPPRESSED:
The surface dwarves are pariahs in their own lands, and if I recall, something happens to their caste and they basically become not quite casteless, but also outsiders. Their lives are generally better than in Orzammar, since the Dwarves live in what's described as a shithole with shitty alcohol. The first generations who are forced out are really the only ones that don't like moving out.
The casteless are forced out of mainline society and branded, which is just silly in the sense that the Dwarves literally need every man on the line that they can, and as a society can't afford to have the Carta or any of that other bullshit. If anything, they'd be better off exiling everyone top-side, since at least it would remove the crime. But since they don't, it becomes a problem.
532e28 No.14540343
>>14539900
I meant Hawke, the faggot Mary Sue character from DA2. I just realized I had the wrong name. Still, fuck that shitty Mary Sue/Gary Stu.
773ab4 No.14540400
Literally nobody cares about Dragon Age anymore.
Also
>that gif
Is Bioware forbidden by law to make attractive female models?
bcd438 No.14540490
>>14535694
That Bioware never even thought of doing one set in the Tevinter Imperium and your character arranges its fall is sign if any was needed of lack of vision.
1daf70 No.14541277
>>14540400
>Is Bioware forbidden by law to make attractive female models?
They just user their devs as models.
000000 No.14541569
>>14540070
Casteless aren't lower caste though. They're literally casteless.
>>14540121
No, it's very clear that the late king did not want Bhelen to inherit: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Codex_entry:_A_Letter_from_King_Endrin Circumstances strongly suggest Bhelen killed his father so he could inherit the throne. The other issue is that Bhelen is a tyrant while Harrowmont respects the assembly. Some of the evidence of Harrowmont's corruption is also fabricated by Bhelen. At the same time Bhelen is more likely to improve the lot of the casteless dwarves, get shit done, and help Orzammar reclaim lost territory.
>The casteless are forced out of mainline society and branded, which is just silly in the sense that the Dwarves literally need every man on the line that they can, and as a society can't afford to have the Carta or any of that other bullshit.
They can enter the Legion of the Dead for that. A number of them do.
>If anything, they'd be better off exiling everyone top-side, since at least it would remove the crime. But since they don't, it becomes a problem.
This part is badly handled imo. I'm pretty sure the casteless could just up and leave. The only reason I could imagine for them sticking around is that they don't to abandon the stone/their roots or general fear of the overworld, since by all accounts life topside is much better to them and they have literally nothing to lose since they're already casteless anyhow.
There's no denying casteless have a really fucking shit life though and that the whole thing could be handled better. That reminds me, the original plan for the Dwarf Noble questline would've had you take revenge on Bhelen and make your own character king. Also Gorim was most probably supposed to be recruitable in an early draft. Instead we've got… Oghren.
>>14540343
DA2 was complete shite. We all know.
>>14540490
>That Bioware never even thought of doing one set in the Tevinter Imperium and your character arranges its fall is sign if any was needed of lack of vision.
DA4 is set in Tevinter. That was made extremely obvious by the way DAI ended. It'll suck though. DA4 is down to a skeleton crew, Laidlaw has fucked off (now there's a vote of confidence), and none of the guys were ever that good to handle it in a small crew. Who knows, maybe they'll be lucky and get shit done now that the bureaucracy has been diminished and the EA oversight is all on Anthem instead of DA4, but EA has not been known for its talent.
a85d41 No.14541576
>>14539980
>DAO's dwarves are honestly a lot less gold-obsessed than your average fantasy dwarf.
That's not what I'm referring too, the deep downer vs. surface thing is.
e7779e No.14541577
Who cares? Dragon Age has had one good game in its entire series.
6889f4 No.14541610
>>14537479
That's originally what they were planning, but fans said when asked that they wanted a post-ME3 game. What they meant is that they wanted a post-Shepard, post-ME3 game, and BioWare knew it, but making that game meant owning the ME3 ending mistake, so they decided to make a game that still technically takes place post-ME3, but not in the way fans meant.
40caa7 No.14542843
>>14540343
Its ironic, I thought Hawke sucked because everything they do ends up being a failure.
>go to a treasure expedition, lose their sibling no matter what
>fails to save their mom
>fails to stop the Qunari from rampaging the city
>fails to stop the war from breaking out
>only success they get is becoming rich after the expedition and even that gets undone at the end of the game by the war breaking out.
I hated Hawke because of how much of an utter failure they were.
000000 No.14544603
>>14541576
I haven't read Prachett but that divide's a really common thing. Usually it's not fullblown surfacer vs underworlder, but honorable mountaindwarf vs homeless/clanless surfacer dwarf. Hell, Arcanum: of Magicks and Steamworks Obscura had a city dwarf and clan dwarf divide going on. DAO just took it up a level, but DAO was trying to be a dark fantasy so you had a lot more prejudice and reluctance and shit. Then Bioware went full SJW and tried to poz their own fantasy setting and retcon the design of course. Low fantasy also went completely out the window as of DA2. In DAO magic was supposed to be scarce, but after DAO you had wizards shitting magic in every corner, partly because the combat designers sucked at throwing varied challenges so they kept throwing in wizards just to pretend their combat had some variety in it and partly because of the awful handling of the mage-templar conflict.
c23a82 No.14544714
>>14544603
Pratchett's a fantastic author. I'd recommend "Making Money."
5fe800 No.14544730
>>14542843
He's still portrayed as some flawless hero as far as I can tell. Even cameoed in 3 like anyone gives a shit.
a85d41 No.14544734
>>14544714
God no. That's not even him, that's his daughter using his name. If you want to read Pratchett, start with Lords and Ladies, The Hogfather, Reaper Man, Men at Arms or the The Thief of Time. None of the books after Night Watch are worth reading.
532e28 No.14545590
>>14544730
Not surprised knowing this is the same company that forced pro-Rapefugee and leftist-sjw shit in Baldur's Gate. Bioware always forces their Mary Sue and Gary Stu stuff in their games, punishing you if you didn't play the games their way.
65027c No.14545789
>>14539201
Guess he realize that it was doom to fail just like Hail-life 3
497b97 No.14545844
>>14539201
No, you're thinking of Marc Laidlaw. Same surname, completely different person.