/v/ - Video Games

I don't know. Back in my PC days Turok was bigger than Golden Eye, because i never had N64.

>>14531457

Because Goldeneye was the most popular Bond movie in decades and completely reinvigorated the franchise which had been on hiatus after the Timothy Dalton period. Not too mention that Goldeneye was a genuinely great game, a shooter with objectives that was widely available to consumers based on a popular movie at the time.

I spent an untold amount of time playing Goldeneye as a kid, it was as good as they say. Turok is a fine game and Turok 2 was pretty decent as well, I remember enjoying both when I was young as well. But Turok doesn't have personality like Bond, Turok doesn't have a movie. Also after Turok 2 I heard the games got progressively worse, Rage Wars didn't even have a single player campaign if memory serves.

>>14531457

Goldeneye was more popular because of its multiplayer and because it was in an existing and high-profile universe. It's really not that good a game otherwise particularly compared to PC shooters of the time.

No Multiplayer

Goldneye is a better game, the empty levels of turok filled with boring combat encounters and unimaginative platforming padding the game was far less engaging than objective based game play where you are doing an entirely different thing level to level, where enemies are satisfying to fight and the game is teeming with variety.

Turok is short, has levels way too big for the content in them, the bosses suck, and once you beat the first stage you've essentially got an expectation of what you'll get from the rest. Why did all these turok shit eaters turn up after nightdive got kaisers port in active production? Turok sucks and the only good Turok is 3.

>>14531490

there are no PC shooters like Goldeneye, and it is better than many of its competition on the PC.

Turok 2 was more popular than the 1st, on 64 it had fog and lag out the ass if I can remember and no mp didnt help either when you had 4 controller ports.

>>14531488

By that logic, movie based games should always be great.

Goldeneye was the death of the Bond film franchise. It turned him into a cuck.

>>14531497

>there are no PC shooters like Goldeneye,

Because there's no reason to make an FPS as limited as Goldeneye on PC

>and it is better than many of its competition on the PC.

It did some mildly interesting things but overall it's mostly just notable for pushing FPS tech on consoles.

>>14531528

>Because there's no reason to make an FPS as limited as Goldeneye on PC

goldeneye is less limited than comparable PC shooters of the time. Less rhetoric more meat.

>It did some mildly interesting things but overall it's mostly just notable for pushing FPS tech on consoles.

being an objective based shooter is more than mildly interesting, as well as having enemies with varied reactions based on where you hit them. It also meaningfully impact game play. Give an argument next post.

>>14531494

But Goldeneye didn't have any secrets and was too linear. Visually, Turok has held up better. It has better weapons.

Goldeneye had multiplayer and had the bond license.

>>14531531

>goldeneye is less limited than comparable PC shooters of the time

Quake 1 was released a year before goldeneye. What the fuck are you smoking?

>>14531536

Quake was better than Goldeneye too!

>>14531534

>But Goldeneye didn't have any secrets and was too linear

secrets are arbitrary. Many levels allowed you to complete objectives in whichever order you wish.

> Turok has held up better.

being able to see more than 20 feet ahead of you makes goldeneye more visually appealing. Plus not having repeating textures making up the entirety of the level.

>It has better weapons.

the first turok had pretty lame standard FPS weapons. Goldeneye has a large variety of weapons across at the time, non-standard weapon archetypes. I'd say they're about even there.

>>14531536

>Quake 1 was released a year before goldeneye.

quake 1 isn't "less limited" than goldeneye, and something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point. Give it some substance.

>>14531541

>quake 1 isn't "less limited" than goldeneye, and something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point.

>"less limited" isn't a legitimate point.

You were the one who fucking said that here >>14531531

>>14531543

yes, we have IDs here. Are you going to substantiate it? Give me a PC shooter where you can target enemies from head to toe, each limb, eliciting a different reaction to wherever you tag them. Give me a PC shooter where you can dual wield every weapon with it not being locked to a power up. Give me a PC shooter where every level is built upon completing objectives and not just getting to the end switch, many levels which give you the opportunity to complete those objectives however you wish.

Better yet, stay on fucking subject and tell me how Turok is better than that. Go on.

>>14531518

>By that logic, movie based games should always be great.

Not at all just why it was widely popular, the brand and name is already established. James Bond movies have been around since the 60s, with films being produced evey 2 years at one point. Ian Flemings novels have been around even longer. However Goldeneye is by far the most successful film to game adaption in vidya history. You could argue Goldeneyes success is responsible for some of the abominations that came afterwards.

As for the movie Goldeneye is was extremely popular at the time. It was far more intelligent and less campy than the Roder Moore era and Brosan had more personality than Timothy Dalton. The central theme in Goldeneye is betrayal, which is always an interesting theme. Sean Beans 006 betrays James, MI6 and later his accomplice Ourumov. General Ourumov betrays the Russian Federation, however his motivations are his view that the Russian Federation is a betrayal of the Soviet Union. Boris the hacker betrays Natalya. The assassin Xenia fucks her prey and then murders them in the act, a betrayal of trust when their guard is down. The villians are all unique and their motivations pretty fleshed out. The only weak point of the movie is that Trevelyn's grand plan is just a bank heist (which Bond calls him out on). I don't understand your reasoning for Bond being a cuck in the film. Other films perhaps, but not Goldeneye.

>>14531541

>>quake 1 isn't "less limited" than goldeneye

>fully online multiplayer

>faster movement complete with larger levels

>more enemy variety than just "goon with gun"

>extensive mod support which prevented the game from being invalidated even in the face of sequels

This isn't even counting all the technological accomplishments Quake had.

>>and something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point

and here we are moving the goalposts

Okay guys, lets review few things, Turok and Golden Eye were both released in 1997, what else we have releasing in 1996-1997?

The Terminator: SkyNET, Bethesda Softworks, 1996

Duke Nukem 3D, 3D Realms, 1996

Alien Trilogy, Probe Entertainment, 1996

Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders, Raven Software, 1996

Final Doom, id Software, 1996

Quake, id Software, 1996

Blood, Monolith Productions, 1997

Doom 64, Midway Games, 1997

Redneck Rampage, Xatrix Entertainment, 1997

Shadow Warrior, 3D Realms, 1997

Hexen II, Raven Software, 1997

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II, LucasArts, 1997

Quake II, id Software, 1997

You think with all those releases those two were the most important ones?

>>14531548

You claimed that less limited isn't an argument and yet you yourself only said the same thing. I'm not getting drawn into your shitfest I'm asking you to explain why an argument works for you and the very same thing doesn't for someone else.

>>14531553

>the game solely consisted of going from point a to point b and shoot everything in sight.

and taking pictures, planting trackers, planting bombs. At least play the games you talk about.

>>14531556

there we go, some substance.

>>fully online multiplayer

agreed, although multiplayer is multiplayer and goldeneye has that. Different types.

>>faster movement complete with larger levels

agreed about faster movement, the levels are about the same size, but it varies. Something being big doesn't mean it's good. Goldeneyes levels are also much more dense.

>>more enemy variety than just "goon with gun"

agreed, although enemy variety isn't the goal of goldeneye, it's objective completion. Guards with different guns and AI patterns changed up how you dealt with combat encounters in goldeneye pretty well. Having a guard with a grenade launcher is a world apart from one with dual kobbs.

>>extensive mod support which prevented the game from being invalidated even in the face of sequels

I agree, to an extent. But now that we're done reading the back of the box, lets talk about mechanics and level design, the actual meat of the games as they were at their respective times of relevance.

>>14531559

*tips fedora* heil total biscuit

>>14531561

something being less limited can be worlds apart in what it means on a case by case basis. Either you can be talking about how the levels are point A to point B or how levels can have numerous goals for you to complete in whichever order you choose. Or it can mean having a level editor vs not, or it can mean being able to jump vs being able to not. Substantiate them by saying something meaningful. That's why it doesn't work.

>>14531568

Here I'll break it down for you:

>>14531531

This is your post. In it you say only "goldeneye is less limited than comparable PC shooters of the time." and this is apparently fine.

>>14531541

This is another post by you. In it you claim "something being "less limited" isn't a legitimate point". Apparently now only saying less limited is not fine. You are operating a double standard. I have no stake in this argument I just want to see you explain yourself. I suspect you're really a cuckchan rapefugee who forgot we have IDs which would also explain why you're blidingly defending Goldeneye.

>>14531575

I substantiated how goldeneye is less limited. Many PC shooters were still operating on the doom rules of find keys, hit switches, kill dudes along the way, reach the end of the level. Dudes you shoot either die, flinch (or not), or gib. In Goldeneye they react to where they're hit, have subtle behavior like sneezes, scratches, and fly swatting which does influence how they react to your presence, stealth is an option in goldeneye to a point, with slappers acting as a 1-hit-KO from behind. None of this is things I haven't said already. You should read the thread.

Talking about games in detail and objecting to stupid arguments like le turok is better because it has secrets and is more creative which is as vague as can be – that is absolute cuckchan shit. If you're afraid to talk about the details of the games, what sort of conclusions should I draw about you?

since this is thread about old games nobody talks about, I'm going to throw this one out there, Starsiege: Tribes (1998)

oy vey remember turok, watch the movie we're going to put out next year

I hardly ever replay Goldeneye compared to Perfect Dark or Turok, but I think the Goldeneye poster has a point. Goldeneye was a genuinely innovative FPS compared to Turok that introduced many things that had previously been unheard of in the genre. Turok was sort of like Doom or Descent with longer levels.

On the other hand Turok definitely had smarter default controls than Goldeneye, which Rareware noticed and rectified for Perfect Dark. And Iguana must have noticed the context-sensitive body parts in Goldeneye because they had some fun with it in Turok 2.

Also more on topic it's because Goldeneye is was more advanced and honestly just more fun.

>>14531627

You're ignoring goldeneyes various control schemes, which even allows you to use two controllers for dual analog control.

>Doom

>moddable, indefinite content

>fast paced

>multipayer with more than 4 people

>Quake

>same deal

People had better games to be, in all honesty. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are fantastic, for console games. They'd be even better if they were originally released on PC

while Turok is technically a better game

its nowhere near exciting as concept

>>14531641

turok is an objectively worse game

>>14531647

>>>/reddit/

Native American killing Dinosaurs and time travelling cant beat giant legacy of James Bond

Thats what i am saying

who is Turok, why should i care, is what pops up immideatly

James Bond is better written

even thou these are games it still seems to matter

>>14531457

>they always mention Golden Eye first

why mention it anyways? perfect dark was superior

if Turok had a character arc, it would change a lot of things

>>14531663

just not with that framerate

>>14531588

>If you're afraid to talk about the details of the games, what sort of conclusions should I draw about you?

I already told you I really don't care about the games I'm just asking for some consistency. For example why didn't you reply to this anon >>14531557 ?

>>14531493

/thread

>>14531666

nice trips, you can always emulate it with that kb+m version

>>14531636

>They'd be even better if they were originally released on PC

You can at least emulate them with mouse controls.

>>14531701

>12 years of technology, 20x the computer performance made a character look marginally better

>but this is ok because now the long hair blows in the wind, he has mocap facial expressions, and the lighting engine is superior.

anon, how old are you?

>>14531687

no thanks, I don't want any trojans.

>>14531672

right, so a metashitter, so a jew. begone.

>>14531747

the stylization to yakuza's realistic style really makes it one of the better looking games around. The standard NPCs you pass in the world look decent but the more detailed main characters still have that feeling that they look realistic while also having a sort of greater detail to them that reminds me of certain movie star faces.

Goldeneye is a hard pill to swallow compared to Perfect Dark and Goldeneye.

The first game was fine, albeit unremakrable.

The second was a classic that wasn't aging well technically, but the recent PC remaster corrects that and it holds-up now.

The third and Evolution are underrated gems imho.

The 2008 reboot was a bad Halo knockoff.

>>14531787

*Perect Dark and Timesplitters

Fuckkk

Honestly I dont know, I have only played the PC versions but I absolutely loved Turok.

Turok 2 is kinda meh for me though, not as fast or as fun as the first one.

>>14531809

Here's a mod for the Turok 2 remaster that makes Joshua run more like Tal'Set.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5gm0zh6926bgt57/Speed%20Mods.rar?dl=0

Goldeneye was more unique. It pretty much invented a whole new subgenre, whereas Turok follows the model set by PC FPS pretty closely. It was also the first N64 FPS with multiplayer deathmatches, I believe. That was significant.

turok was complete trash where you couldn't see 5 feet infront of yourself because of the n64 fog while it ran at 10fps.

its ok on pc

>>14531908

>its ok on pc

Most of these games usually are since it removes the limitations.

Turok is badass, and the only real way to play it is on an actual N64.

>>14531488

the timothy dalton movies were superior to goldeneye

>>14532777

The music is different on PC?

>>14531488

Goldeneye was first made with Timothy Dalton in mind. Which btw makes sense because in tone it's a lot like his other Bond-movies.

>>14531604

Nintendo fans weren't always soyboys though. Turok and Goldeneye were from back in the 90s when gaming was "EXTREME" and "TOTALLY RADICAL DUDE!"

Good God! Do I miss those days!

>>14531550

Taken from Wikipedia:

>With Brosnan, the Bond writers knew that because of the changes in public attitudes, he could not be as overtly sexual and dominant over women as Connery's Bond, and was denounced by M in Goldeneye to be a "sexist, misogynist dinosaur, a relic of the Cold War".

Goldeneye was THE party game. The multiplayer was outstanding. Turok was also too hard for casuals.

>>14535108

its a red bfg shut the fuck up

>>14535172

But unlike the BFG, it blankets the screen with a nuclear explosion.

>>14531457

nonwhite protagonis

>>14535176

weapons like this are nothing new

>>14535182

This.

People can argue all they want, but this is the main (and rightful) reason.

Put two similar (and good) entertainment pieces together, and the one with the White and Straight Man as the protagonist will always be the preferable one.

>>14535570

What if I told you,

That good game ideas,

inherently revolve around such people?

>>14531497

Goldeneye was the Halo of the 90's. By that, I mean it was the overrated trash consolefags thought of as masterpieces. They did nothing new or exciting, they didn't push tech forward, they didn't even do what they did particularly well. They had marketing and interesting settings behind them, and did stuff console gamers hadn't seen before, but they were beaten to the punch by PC games every time.

>>14531557

I can't believe people are going on about how amazing Goldeneye was when Blood, Jedi Knight, Quake 2, and Hexen 2 came out the same year. Consolefags disgust me.

>>14535118

>Goldeneye was THE party game

>Not Mario Kart 64 Battle Mode

Next thing you're going to tell me is that you played Goldeneye with slappers only like a true faggot.

>>14535683

Can't tell if they're from /pol/ or they're Plebbit incels. Either way, you faggots can go.

>>14535683

/pol/ and /v/ have always been the same board newfriend.

>>14536108

This.

>>14531628

I love how you assume they're PCfags and not ex-nintendo fans. A lot of people got burned by them anon.

>>14537435

Cats don't attack like this right in the throat unless they sense extreme danger or easy prey, and even with prey they would toy.

The guy probably abuses his cat.

>>14537462

Maybe cats, like dogs can only tolerate so much faggotry albeit with a higher tolerance, and this one dude's soyjoy was enough to push it over the limit

>>14537462

>easy prey

I'm pretty sure the cat smelled the soy induced weakness

>>14537435

>soundless

>>>/cuckchan/

Because James Bond > some shitty kiddy dinosaurs

>>14531550

>Brosnan had more personality than Timothy Dalton

Are you dense? Brozzo was the blandest of them all (and yes, I'm including Craig). And fuck you, Roger is the Adam West of the Bond actors, he's fun as hell to watch.

Also, the main problem with Goldeneye is that it tries way too hard to take itself seriously while taking no risks at all. Wooo! Bond now lives in post-cold war, no biggie he's still doing his thing. Wooo! Bond's boss is a woman, but she's still doing the typical M thing with no addition to her character. Wooo! The villain is his best friend, a character we haven't seen before, have no connection with, whose plan is all over the place and, for someone who knows Bond's every move, he is defeated by a grenade and a run-of-the-mill fight scene.

>>14538093

Wow, a PCfag frogposting cuckchanner. What a unique and interesting character you are.

>>14538097

Pepe you mongoloid.

>>14536106

Goldeneye did lots of new things. You not liking it doesn't mean it doesn't count.

>>14538221

>>14538514

>defending cuckchanners

What a sad state we're in.

>>14538602

Are you blind? Look at the fucking filename.

>>14538620

We all make mistakes anon just beware the cuckchan menace.

>>14538514

Goldeneye did new things though. Levels in Goldeneye actually had objectives, which didn't boil down to keyhunting or fucking stupid puzzles ala Hexen I and II.

>>14538620

>>14538636

Facebook frog is still shit and foreign.

>>14538637

It's "objectives" weren't anything new.

>>14538672

t. jew

>>14538809

>a bunch of faggots attempt to subvert kek

>being so new you don't know they stole this shit from here and bastardized it

I think the reason why GoldenEye is better than Turok was because GoldenEye had a more straightforward approach to everything(with the small-medium sized maps and objectives stated). In Turok on the other hand, you need to explore huge ass jungle maps (not that it's bad) to find keys scattered around. Imagine doing that with the N64 and its controlled camera movements.

>>14531628

wtf how did u find my steam profile!!

Perfect Dark was revolutionary and way ahead of its time. It pushed the N64 to its limits.

As for why GE was so popular, just take a look at Cinemassacre's recent review of it.

>>14531550

>Brosnan

>more personality than Timothy Dalton

Nope.

Pierce Brosnan's portrayal of Bond hasn't aged well. He's a generic "jack of all trades" Bond and his movies are suffer from terrible scripts and retarded action sequences where he goes around gunning people like Rambo.

Dalton was ahead of its time, he was the most accurate Bond true to the novels. He read the books before taking the role. Unfortunately the audience in the 80's was too used to Roger Moore's campiness so they weren't ready for a serious Bond yet. But in 2006 with Casino Royale, people finally accepted a serious Bond by Daniel Craig.

GoldenEye would've been perfect for Dalton.

>>14536106

sounds like goldeneye getting its rightful praise makes you really asshurt, just like halo does too. Sorry it makes you upset they're better than whatever hipster shit shooters you probably like, such as shogo or chasm the rift. those games are garbage and are rightfully never brought up except by hipsters.

>>14539499

[cont]

Official Bond rankings:

1. Sean Connery (not even a debate)

2. Timothy Dalton

3. Daniel Craig

4. Pierce Brosnan

5. Roger Moore

6. George Lazenby (although the 1 movie he's in is god tier)

Also GoldenEye is overrated, the best Bond films are:

>The Living Daylights

>On Her Majesty's Secret Service

>For Your Eyes Only

>From Russia With Love

>The Spy Who Loved Me

>Licence To Kill

>Casino Royale

where there's actual espionage involved and not just some generic action movie with gadgets (in which case Goldfinger > GoldenEye).

>>14540112

This is why you don't keep cat's.

>>14540124

>This is why you don't keep manchildren.

Fixed that for you.

>>14540124

Why the apostrophe?

>>14540142

Eh,you can have a bad dog breed,you can't have a bad cat breed.

>>14539992

That is because you are a cuck.

White is superior.

There is no need to have characters that aren't either White or asian in entertainment.

>>14540161

That doesn't really go against what i said that certain breeds of dogs are just bad from the get go,where with cats even if they're bad they're nowhere near as bad as dogs can start as.

>>14540169

That's because cat breeds are bred, based on climate and look.

Dog's are bred by utility are were.

Even small dogs had utility 200 years ago when small dog poodle mixes where used as rat hunters which could deal with high humidity climates which cats could not.

That's where the poodle comes from is french, spanish fleets requiring a dog with fur which did not shed and could deal with water.

You have dogs who can lead the blind

Dogs who can sniff out bombs

Dogs who can sniff out narcotics

Dogs who guard

Dogs who can offer companionship

Cats, do only two things

Kill pests,

Make you feel like you're not alone.

DOGS>CATS

>>14540301

This shit fucking makes me happy,to see cats defending people or scaring away other animals,more if you got them please.

>>14531457

multiplayer dumbass

Who the fuck cares, if you wanted to play multiplayer with friends you were playing multiplayer with friends either way.

>>14540301

>>14540180

>>14540161

>>14540159

I never got why most women liked cats and men liked dogs, since women look for dog qualities in men and men essentially end up keeping a 125lb cat when they get married

Cats are dainty things that dont really do much at all except groom themselves and whine at you to give them resources like food

Dogs are bumbling retards full of devotion that do everything in their power to gain affection,doing everything from farm labor to risking their life finding bombs to rescuing morons skiing, or just outright running under tanks with bombed strapped to them

>>14540301

I've met many cats cause I grew up in hipsterville, they were all asshole cats.

I have also met many dogs that were trained to the extent of "sit" and "no" and were all wonderful.

The only bad dogs I've come across are ones that grew up in the ghetto and had an owner that took its frustration out at it.

yet every chocolate lab that I've met has been a hyperactive piece of shit that would never stop barking.

I haven't played Turok on n64.

I have played Goldeneye and Perfect Dark on n64.

That's why.

>>14540481

>Cats are dainty things that dont really do much at all except groom themselves and whine at you to give them resources like food

Cat's are strong enough to overpower a full grown woman in a feat of strength if it's terrified enough to grip something for dear life, and that's just something that's common for Vets to deal with if it's trying to kill you the same you see in comedies then good fucking luck your face is coming right off. The reason woman collect cats is to fill an empty void in their heart, you can generally tell based on how many cats they have and if they don't replace their cats.

>>14540495

>yet every chocolate lab that I've met has been a hyperactive piece of shit that would never stop barking.

That's because the puppy mills only sell the hyperactive ones and the owners that buy them are shit or otherwise too inadequate and too lax with them, they need a lot of work. You go outside and you fucking play for hours with physical activities or make him work until he's exhausted. The subtle body language of Humans living with it is much more of an influence on labs then most dogs. Chocolate labs are also one of the smarter breeds, since they'll regularly pickup on keywords you use when they get older and understand what you're saying vaguely but won't care if you don't speak those keywords they pay attention too.

>>14531457

Actual answer: because parents knew Goldeneye from the movie and bought it like a normalfag tie-in.

I think it's just because GoldenEye had multiplayer before Turok had multiplayer, so it became the de-facto multiplayer shooter.

The fact that it was based on a hit movie helped, as did the "training wheels" that lowered the skill ceiling compared to Turok.

GE had more generous auto-aim and no jumping or falling to deal with, as well as primitive ADS.

Turok had better weapons though.

>>14540723

>so it became the de-facto multiplayer shooter

If you were a toddler who gots his N64 for Christmas. Actual FPS players were balls deep in Quake 2.

>>14540729

And here we have the colossal hipster cunt who failed basic reading comprehension to give his uninformed two cents only tangentially related to the OP.

Can't have a conversation about why one console game got chosen over another console game on that same console without some dickface chiming in about a different game altogether (which was more synonymous with a completely different platform).

Maybe read the fucking subject of the thread next time.

Holy shit, what are you even still discussing?

I've always been curious: Are there FPSs before Goldeneye that actually had context-sensitive hit areas? Or even headshots that do different damage from body shots?

>>14540792

Pretty sure arcade light-gun games had contextual damage and animations. Virtua Cop and Time Crisis and the like. House of the Dead definitely did but that came out after.

>>14540154

Aren't American Indians decended from Asians?

>>14540142

Dogs are definitely more loyal.

>>14540933

>possible

wtf, i love guessing

>>14540678

> reason woman collect cats is to fill an empty void in their heart

but why a cat? Cats cant be bothered to even look at you if you walk into the room, while dogs fall over themselves for affection

>>14541744

Because cats are dominant and women want to be dominated. Dogs remind them of betas.

>>14541782

>chad feline, virgin canine

>>14541782

Cats can be pretty subservant too

>>14542267

Not that i've ever seen.

>>14531457

Turok had shitty draw distrance and a bad frame rate. It was a good game but I preferred Goldeneye better.

>>14540798

>I first played Goldeneye with the mouse hack and I can't imagine playing it on original hardware now.

Well if you never played with an N64 controller then no amount of keyboard + mouse controls is going to help you "get it". I mean shit I played the N64 so much that the N64 controller is second nature in these hands and without the mouse hack trying to control 3 fifths of the N64 selection is a god damned nightmare for me.

>>14546258

>Well if you never played with an N64 controller then no amount of keyboard + mouse controls is going to help you "get it". I mean shit I played the N64 so much that the N64 controller is second nature in these hands and without the mouse hack trying to control 3 fifths of the N64 selection is a god damned nightmare for me.

Don't bother explaining to pc fags they're all emuniggers who don't understand how the games actually play.

>>14531518

>Goldeneye was the death of the Bond film franchise. It turned him into a cuck.

You clearly didn't actually watch it

>>14531457

Didn't Turok cost like $70 on release compared to GoldenEye's more reasonable $40?

>>14549147

Dalton era was better still.

But it was. At least in my country. Not everything is about the US.

>>14545267

>samefagging via torposting

>>14541582

It's hard to use DOS if you're a drooling retard who can't remember basic file structure and a few commands. Though "Expanded" and "Extended" memory still fucks with my head to this day. Glad those days are long past.

The only games today that are "Hard to get running" are games that heavily relied on old DirectX and 3dfx Glide.

>>14561200

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14562052

>powerslave on PC

>good

I knew my opposition were mouthbreathers, but it usually takes more than one post for them to out themselves.

>tfw still don't know whether the N64 GE/PD bundle with M+KB support has a virus or not

50% say it's a virus 50% say it's a false positive. I don't know who to believe

>>14562695

it's a virus but it also trivializes the game. When the game isn't a challenge it becomes unfun

>>14562598

What else do you expect from pcfats?

>>14562598

>cherrypicking and ignoring the rest of the post

You're not allowed to call others mouth breathers if you think a massive pile of Reddit nostalgia shit like GoldenEye was a good game.

>>14569392

t. permanently stunted console warring baby

>>14570032

>buzzwords

>still no argument

reddit is the realm of the mustard race, learn your sides here kid

>>14570078

learn what high profile means

>>14570089

I knew about Turok long before I ever heard of James Bond.

>>14570093

I'm sure you did

>>14570094

My dad was cool anon, he could probably beat up your dad even.

>>14570127

I substantiated my positions earlier, you could read my earlier posts in the thread. I ignored an argument I already won because it wasn't worth bringing up again when I addressed everything already in this thread.

>To say that the popular competition on PC at the time was worse is a false statement

name a more tactical single player focused shooter, one with leaning, as many varied objectives, and AI as elaborate.

you can't.

>By virtue of playing with a mouse and keyboard they are better games

*tips fedora*

> let alone being faster and more skill based games.

arguable but not interesting, I'm more concerned with quality of design.

>>14570078

>1954

What?

>>14540161

They work for us without any money from us.

White is superior.

>>14540926

Americans is what White People dictates them to be.

>>14562695

It's a virus.

>>14571432

>Americans is what White People dictates them to be.

>le 56% meme

>>14570901

You're retarded.

>>14562593

>liking worst Bond

So has anyone played around with the level editor? i'm having problems moving the floor mesh around on a vertical axis.

>>14578475

-t. turok fan

Same reason Dino Crisis is forgotten. Pearls among swine.

>>14583624

What does that even mean?

>>14541744

Because cats require the minimum of attention from their owners. They're for lazy people.

>>14583616

What?

>>14531457

goldeneye was the first mission objective based FP"S". it had stealth mechanics, and when it released it really changed the genre. perfect dark also did this well. as difficulty increased it actually gave you more to do and didnt just become faster/harder. the missions were "plant this, destroy that, meet with this person, find this item"

Turok, though good. its missions were essentially all gather collectibles or find the thing. which doesnt work well in a shooter since once the enemies are dead, walking through the map is just kind of boring. and sometimes you'd be running laps through it looking for a missing collectible.

>>14592530

Goldeneye was also shit.