/v/ - Video Games

Proof or gtfo

>>14529227

hooktubed in case you're autistic about it

Fucking hell, maybe I will get to play it one day

>he doesn't own an original xbox

They're so cheap these days and so easy to softmod, there's no reason not to

There are four reasons to own an Xbox: JSRF, Gunvalkyrie, Steel Battalion, and everything else.

>tfw own an XBOX

>tfw got some games for it such as the good Splinter Cell Double Agent, Urban Chaos Riot Response and JSRF

>tfw it doesn't fucking work

>>14529373

>the good Splinter Cell Double Agent

It's one of the original Xbox games that's compatible with the Xbox 360, so you could play it that way.

can this emulator read ISOs yet? last I checked it would only accept some ROM format or some shit. or, maybe I am retarded.

>>14529358

This. It's a start, but still unplayable. The graphics bugged out bad when doing the dash near the end, too. That's necessary for some of the platforming in the game. Put it in the oven for a couple more years, and then maybe I can play JSRF again.

Soon, Metal Wolf Chaos for all.

>>14528847

I'll believe it when I see it.

>>14529373

>>14529528

It accepts game folder just like a regular modded XBOX, you just go in the folder and load the executable of the game the default.xbe, for regular .iso you just extract them with C-Xbox Tool, for 1:1 .iso you use Xbox Image Browse (proibably also works for regular .iso.

If you need games try that.

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>>14528847

It has nogaems though

>>14531111

Ever play Otogi or Ninja Gaiden Black? I wom't blame you if enjoy the Sigma version.

>>14529265

Looks promising, glad I still have my original Xbox though. Certainly something to keep an eye on, all the same. Sega could solve the JSRF problem, but I don't trust them not to kike it with Denuvo or some other garbage.

>>14531616

three ways this could go down:

1. the worst

low effort remake with Denuvo and DLC shittery

2. the normal

simple upscaled HD remake

3. the best

Real HD port with a lot of resolution options up to 4k. Connect all areas to one gigantic map, put extra areas in and more secrets to discover. Import of own images for grafities. Free for all multiplayer where you can just grind around with your friends.

Last option cost too much effort and the people want money, they are not doing it for the love of their work! Maybe 15 years ago they had do it but we live in a sociaty where enough money is not enough and you with low income have to pay those who have too much.

>JSRF works

A step i guess, but it's not especially expensive or anything, it was a pack in with the xbox.

>>14529373

What, it doesn't read the games?

>>14531040

hey thanks for the explanation.

>>14529265

hooktube has thumbnails now? neat

>>14531711

No, JSRF is an anomaly. It worked for a short time, then didn't. Borrowed another XBOX to test it, used two 360s, obviously cleaned the disc beforehand. I have no idea what went wrong.

>>14531616

>Sega could solve the JSRF problem

They can't. They use low quality emulation to run their titles. Since no open source xbox emulator exists, they can't "create" a PC port.

>>14531799

>Since no open source xbox emulator exists, they can't "create" a PC port.

You could reverse engineer the original game from the retail files, but that takes actual efforts and time, and even when an emulation solution exists they don't seem that interested, see the Xbone retrocompatibility.

>>14531813

Probably not.

>try Ninja Gaiden Black

>still doesn't work

>the arcade version that came with the game works

>graphics are all fucked, can't play

>input configuration won't recognize my D-pad

It's gonna be a while before this thing is up and running, isn't it?

>>14531828

Ninja Gaiden Black requires LTCG which is unsupported at the moment because it requires LLE emulation.

heres the official compatibility list : https://github.com/Cxbx-Reloaded/game-compatibility/issues

>>14531828

Not supported for the foreseeable future, along with that list of games https://github.com/Cxbx-Reloaded/game-compatibility/labels/state-unsupported

All for the same reason, LTCG.

To note that a very few games have LTCG but only for one specific region, like Fatal Frame/Project Zero/零 which doesn't have it on the US version (and maybe the JP one too).

>>14531834

Ninja Gaiden Black isn't actually in that list for some reason.

>Emuniggers

Just buy original hardware while it's cheap you retards.

>>14532164

Posted earlier in the thread.

>>14532168

>hurr durr you can't like emulation if you own the hardware

>>14532192

>hurr durr you can't like emulation if you own the hardware

Why emulate then?

>>14532203

>Why emulate then?

The ability to have a replacement when real hardware stops being viable..

Improvements over the real hardware.

>>14532213

>The ability to have a replacement when real hardware stops being viable..

Not relevant for modern consoles with millions upon millions of units solved.

>Improvements over the real hardware.

What? I've tried PS2 emulators and they're all wildly inferior to original hardware. You spend hours tweaking shit for each game and then stuff still runs wrong and there are some games that don't even work at all.

>>14532223

>You spend hours tweaking shit for each game and then stuff still runs wrong

>hours

What the hell are you talking about?

Yes. Working. Runs perfect in 1080p, those few bugs doesnt matter

>>14532223

>Not relevant for modern consoles with millions upon millions of units solved.

Not everyone wants to rebuy old console / parts endlessly because they break, especially in 5-6th gen that starts not being easily fixable, disc lasers in particular are a pain (especially when the ODEs go for 4x the price of the system if not more).

>What? I've tried PS2 emulators and they're all wildly inferior to original hardware.

> You spend hours

Ah so you're just a retard then, granted not every game works well but those that do get improved a lot by not having to deal with the crappy res the PS2 had, or the slowdowns, or the lack of fast forward, or the painfully long load times.

Is this new xbox emulator going to require a beast of a computer because I don't remember PCXS2 needing a powerful rig to run.

>>14532283

it probably depends on the settings you put on the emulator

>>14532237

Trying to get PS2 games to work.

>>14532262

>Not everyone wants to rebuy old console / parts endlessly because they break, especially in 5-6th gen that starts not being easily fixable, disc lasers in particular are a pain (especially when the ODEs go for 4x the price of the system if not more).

You can just buy another console for that.

>Ah so you're just a retard then, granted not every game works well but those that do get improved a lot by not having to deal with the crappy res the PS2 had, or the slowdowns, or the lack of fast forward, or the painfully long load times.

Maybe there'll be a good PS2 emulator by the time I'm 60 and a good XB one by the time I'm fucking dead but right now they suck dick.

>>14532283

>Is this new xbox emulator going to require a beast of a computer

There was a vid showing the GPU wouldn't even go into full power mode running at regular resolutions, and the CPU side is running the code natively, so no as long as there's no blocking between the two it shouldn't be too demanding, that being said once they introduce LLE that will most certainly change.

>I don't remember PCXS2 needing a powerful rig to run.

You remember wrong

>>14532293

>You can just buy another console for that.

Yes yes you're a retard we already understand that, no need to reiterate.

>>14532293

There's a comprehensive wiki for the emulator with a list of known issues and workarounds, even if you weren't already aware of the wiki it would be one of the first results after a simple search for the game's emulation status. And even if you weren't already aware of that wiki, if you're spending more than a few minutes configuring a game you're doing something wrong.

>>14532325

>if you're spending more than a few minutes configuring a game you're doing something wrong.

Pretty much this, even if you're manually trying every single settings it takes maybe 15 minutes to do (and that's if you don't know shit once you do you can guesstimate what you need to try to fix shit pretty fast), only way to spend more time on a bug is if you're trying to make a proper detailed bug report.

CxBx is not an emulator, its a compatibility layer like WINE, and it only runs on Windows.

Also for anyone that is interested in XBOX emulatiobn but doesn't want CXBXR because >muh LLE or XQEMU because JayFoxCox is a fag there's a new contender that has made significant progress in the few month it has existed.

https://github.com/StrikerX3/OpenXBOX/issues/3

>>14532347

Not entirely true anymore, it's an horrible mishmash of HLE emulation, direct compatibility layers and LLE emulation right now.

Does anyone have that image for modding the xbox?

to any hardware fags that happen to have 3 xboxes and want to play some LAN here is something you should check out http://halo1final.com/NHE/

>>14532423

Well then is there an updated guide?

>>14532548

>Well then is there an updated guide?

Nah latest version of it, but stuff has changed since it was made.

>>14532620

calm down buddy, you sound like a lawyer

It's worth mentioning that a stable frame rate in JSRF would be nice, as doing tricks while grinding is completely based on timing, and the game hiccups occasionally on the original hardware, thus fucking up your combo.

>>14532628

>my dude

Get cancer

>>14529358

But emucucks will claim its perfect or superior to original hardware

>>14532639

Are you triggered my man?

>>14528847

To hex edit the resolution was one hell of a job but woth it, only the ui seems to stay in 640x480

At least i can play it now

>>14532938

anything to beat the 4 hardware purists on the board p much

>>14533115

>To hex edit the resolution was one hell of a job but woth it

It's a trick you can actually do on the real hardware, with the same UI issues.

It only took a decade and a half too

I'm just gonna get a modded xbawks and call it a day, emulators for the thing won't be relevant until what, 3-5 years from today maybe?

What a fucking joke

>>14533129

>hardware purism

m8 the ps2 emulators don't even work yet so maybe when they do you can talk shit

>>14529265

That run like shit OP, can't you just mod the OG xbox and play pirated games on it?

>>14537897

Emulators are the future faggot.

>>14541172

t. the scalper target audience

>>14541290

They already scalp for everything, why do you think XBOX have doubled in price in two years, why do you thin HD AV Packs/Non chinkshit component cables have tripled in price in the same timeframe, how much do you think the same shit is gonna cost you five years from now?

M$ had this amazing IP but instead of polishing it up they put all their money on Sunset Overdrive and Sea of Thieves

i know i should be gladd they didn't ruin it but i'm still kinda dissapointed in the missed oportunity

>>14541322

>The xbox isn't the turbo duo you dumb faggot. You can get them for like 30 bucks

And two years ago you could get them for less than 20 easily, your point?

>You can get them for like 30 bucks

I'm sure it was real in your head, but hey 2 years ago you could find the same ones for 10-15 bucks

> unless you're using a professional monitor

>standard 3rd party component cables will be fine

Oh boy I sure like the audio having that constant disgusting buzzing sound.

>>14536024

> the ps2 emulators don't even work yet

Horse shit. Not perfect doesn't mean not working.

>>14529265

That's pretty good, get those sound issues ironed out and fix that crazy shit that happens during a jet boost and it'll be perfect.

>>14541435

>you can still get them for 20.

No you can't, not unless you're willing to accept a busted one with just the console and nothing else.

I got my 1.0 two years ago for 45 bucks and it came with 3 controllers including a somewhat good shape Duke and a good RGB SCART (the ones with optical out), and a handful of games I didn't care about, sold everything I didn't want and ended up with the console only costing me 25 bucks.

Just a month ago I wanted to get another one because I gave away the first to family and the cheapest I could find was a 1.1 with 1 busted 3rd party controller and a composhit cable and nothing else that shit you can't resell even ended up having to buy another controller for 5 bucks because the first one wasn't worth fixing.

>shifting goalposts in the same posts is a new one

Yeah seems like you're seeing things, I never shifted the goalpost, proper HD AV packs were far cheaper about two years ago which is the exact same thing I said in the first post.

>then shield them

I looked into that, ends up costing more or less the same as a proper cable if you don't have the stuff to do it already, so it's pointless, would probably have been easier/cheapêr with donor cables but I didn't have any.

> Chances are you're using an LCD and they've had video and audio isolation in their processing for a decade.

I'm actually using an OSSC which so far fares better than anything else I've tried when it comes to that buzzing (especially compared to my LCD TV), still has that disgusting buzzing and some minor video issues but those I can live with since they're very minor (slightly more noise on flat colors and some minor ringing artefacts on text)

Seems to me like you want to ignore the simple fact that shit doesn't get cheaper to shit on a free alternative solution.

>>14541559

sounds like you're a dumbass that doesn't know how to use optical audio or how to read ebay descriptions.

>>14541844

>sounds like you're a dumbass that doesn't know how to use optical audio

And that would help how exactly, the XBOX doesn't have a separate optical out like the PS2 and only proper HD AV packs or RGB SCART cable come with that by default, so you're back to getting scalped for a good cable or having to make one yourself.

Using RGB SCART is not something you wanna ever do with an XBOX

>how to read ebay descriptions.

And what makes you say that exactly

>>14529513

I don't know how it's meant to be pronounced, either. The only two I can think of are C.X.B.X, as a straight acronym, or CoxBox.

>>14541172

I'd rather play on a good emulator than on the original hardware.

>>14542428

Xbone's BC is probably the best thing for Xbox emulation but it still leaves a lot to be desired.

One neat thing about Cxbx-R is that its also going to be emulating Sega Chihiro which is the only way to play Ollie King and Virtua Cop 3.

>>14532620

Nigger MS had nothing to do with Sega dying. Blame Sony for making a console that everyone bought instead of your precious Dreamcast.

>>14542428

>Everyone wants to play some old COD or Halo not Genma Onimusha. Let that sink in.

I can kinda see Halo because it apparently has some stuff missing although why would you wanna play an FPS on controller that isn't TS but why would you wanna play CoD on an XBOX, is there on that's exclusive to it or something?

>>14542439

XBOX emulation is supposedly coming to windows officially some time in the future Win 10 only but still worth a VM since it will likely get cracked and gain the ability to launch more stuff shortly after it appears, but the same guy also promised Halo 3 on PC and we already know what happened with that.

>>14541548

Isn't Soul Calibur 3 fucking garbage?

>>14528847

It'll never happen, and if it does everyone's going to realise just how mediocre the 3 games were on it.

>>14542941

>Sega was already on the verge on exiting the hardware business when the Xbox entered development, fucktard.

Wrong. Peter Moore, an agent of Microshit, convinced Sega to kill the DC off and go third-party.

>>14548387

>>14541172

I was joking.

>>14542941

>Luckily we can see that we'll at least have a viable Xbox emulator within our lifetimes.

Within 80 years isn't exactly soon.

>>14542284

I think he was talking about "Snapchat History"

Unless they get Orta working there's no point. It's like cemu not being able to run breath of the wild.

>>14529373

90% of the time the capacitors inside have died

get to soldering boy

>>14545505

Also wrong, Moore went with the decision after Sega Japan themselves decided to exit the business. Moore wasn't even at Microsoft until 2003.

On May 22, 2000, Okawa replaced Irimajiri as president of Sega.[114] Okawa had long openly advocated that Sega abandon the console business.[115] His sentiments were not unique; Sega co-founder David Rosen had "always felt it was a bit of a folly for them to be limiting their potential to Sega hardware", and Stolar had previously suggested that Sega should have sold their company to Microsoft.[17][116] In September 2000, in a meeting with Sega's Japanese executives and the heads of the company's major Japanese game development studios, Moore and Bellfield recommended that Sega abandon its console business and focus solely on software—prompting the studio heads to walk out.[33]

>>14529281

its really really good

refresh

Here's hoping that they get it to run as well as the Dolphin emulator.

>>14564814

That might be your disk, I made it about halfway through the game before getting distracted and losing interest.

>>14564814

Orta was shite compared to PD I&II anyways so who cares

>>14568599

You probably want >>14522435

But to answer your question the game is likely running smoothly, Armored Core was always notorious for insane framerate drops whenever anything happened.

If you wanna be sure then depending on what emulator you are using there is several ways to check, ePSXe and PCSXR-PGXP you need to bring up the plugin ingame config bar, which is one of the del/ins/end/home key (don't remember which haven't used those in a while) if those say 60 (or 50 if using PAL but why would you do that) then it's running at "normal" speed as long as you have frameskip disabled.

For RA in particular same thing, bring up the framerate display and if it says 60 (50 for PAL) then again it's running at the proper speed, RA doesn't do frameskipping at all so can't go wrong.

In either case if the choppy framerate bothers you, provided it's inherent to the game, maybe you can fix that by using the overclocking function which should be present in the latest version of any relevant emulator, it might break the game though, if you're using RA then the GTE speedhack might also help with the bad framerate inherent to the game without causing the breakage regular overclocking can cause.