/v/ - Video Games

Realism

The problem isn't necessarily the lack of color, even though that is annoying. The problem is the lack of borders and distinction. Shit like No Man's Sky has color, but it's all washed out like an old rinse bucket that looks nearly just as bad as stuff with no color.

Console games mostly, that includes Morrowind. Why I can't tell you maybe something to do with texture size limitations.

>>14514248

But it also happens in movies.

Look at the LOTR troll that was used as the monster in Batman vs Superman.

It's everywhere.

>>14514225

personally i think it was call of duty 4, but gears of war came out pretty close to the same time and both were ugly, washed out messes

>>14514245

The medieval ages were actually fairly vibrant in colour.

>>14514255

Gears of War was a year earlier.

>>14514257

Exactly. I hate it when movies and tv shows just give soldiers biker-gang leather armor.

And Might and Magic 6 was I guess the last time a video game really made use of european renaissance aesthetics.

>>14514253

I don't watch movies so I couldn't tell you anon, I'm just saying that's when I noticed it happening.

>>14514257

But that's wrong anon. Fiction taught me that medieval people always wore brown or gray and, if they weren't royalty, had a light coating of feces on them at all times.

>>14514299

Yeah, it really makes sense for poor people with no access to modern medicine to be coated in shit or filth all the time.

Some nigger.

>>14514316

I can't tell which direction you're being sarcastic in, but I'm talking about knights who inexplicably all have mud smeared all over their armor for "grittiness", when they haven't even fought yet. Everyone likes to be clean, it's human nature.

>>14514331

>I can't tell which direction you're being sarcastic in, but I'm talking about knights who inexplicably all have mud smeared all over their armor for "grittiness", when they haven't even fought yet.

I mean it makes total sense. That extra layer of dirt is an effective extra layer of defense.

During the Crusades they all should have taken mudbaths in fullarmor to create a dirt layer that would protect them from the sun.

The peasents on the other hand had that layer of dirt for a different reason. They directly applied the dirt to the skin and became mudpeople. That allowed them total immunity from insect bites.

>>14514346

The commoners had a raw pragmatism that a milennial could never understand. It's no wonder the royals died from incest.

Its appropriate in certain settings. Honestly the people that complain about lack of colours in gaming sound like homosexuals.

Colourful designs are appropriate in certain situations but not in others.

western games and western influence.

>>14514397

You're an idiot. The whole whinging about grey and brown in video games came from faggot game journos having a whinge about ww2 games that were being made.

Literally just having a whinge about something that was appropriate.

Borderlands is another genre. Comparing apples and oranges sonny.

There is no modern trend. There is games for kids and then games that aim for realism.

Your preference is nintendo games.

>muh colours in medieval times

Some facts colour costs money.

In medieval times colour pigment was not readily available. Some colours did not exist or they cost a lot of money.

If you think pre-modern times were 1980s "colourful" you are a mentally retarded revisionist with the maturity of a 12 year old.

Dispose of yourself.

>>14514650

>>14514668

>Double posting

>Consolewar faggotry

Cuckchan misses you, you should go back there.

>>14514694

>>14514693

>libtard revisionists

>faggots

This is the reason people abandoned cuckchan you literally soyboy cucks.

This topic that op thinks is genius was being talked about by cretins over 20 years ago and it was wrong then as it is now.

You want colourful games there are plenty to choose from faggots.

Don't try to rewrite history to suit your degeneracy.

>>14514694

Look faggot colour costs money. It doesn't grow on trees, ypu faggot millenials have no clue what it takes to make things.

Actually read about where colours came from and the process it took to make them. Start with so ething like purple and you understand why colours were associated with aristocracy and not peasantry.

>>14514248

Sony and Microsoft consoles can't handle proper graphics and the plebs that use them are sitting so far away from the screen it doesn't matter anyway. The exception for that is the Switch since it's got a smaller screen unless you dock it which is silly since it's the best handheld ever made but a crappy static console so the hardware can power proper graphics and you're sitting so close to it you can see what's going on.

>>14514725

Check your butthurt low iq faggot. Go read a book on subjects before you talk about them like an idiot. You have no clue what you are talking about.

>>14514610

This is also a big factor and it shouldn't be ignored but it's mostly the fact that console manufacturers lost their way sometime in the late 90s to early 2000s.

>>14514734

Burden of proof does not lie with me, friend.

>>>14514735

>golden age of gaming

>lost their way

what am i reading

But morrowind had the most bland fuckugly brown landscape ever, oblivion at least actually had color in it

>>14514737

Yes it does since you are making the claim colour was readily available and i gave you a fucking example to look up you retarded little cunt.

stupid ignorant piece of shit.

>>14514714

>color costs money in videogames

this is the most autistic thing i've ever read

>>14514753

>gets btfo creates a strawman

just stop idiot.

>>14514759

>doesn't know what IDs are

you really are straight outta cuckchan

>>14514762

>deletes post and changes id

You are a rat.

>>14514371

Those designs look really good, where did they come from?

>>14514774

Idiot your post doesn't disprove the cost of making colour.

Reds and yellows were common. Vibrant colour was rarer hence why everything is drab looking in the middle ages.

>>14514789

>picture has blue, red, green

>yellow and red don't count as 'vibrant'

>this somehow justifies games with brown

>moving goal posts

Sure thing kiddo.

>>14514797

>art of people that probably aren't peasants

>they are mostly in drab dull coloirs that are common.

>its a painting of examples in one place

>thinks this is evidence of widespread colourful clothing in the middle ages

>continues to ignore the facts of where colour comes from and its cost

Again theres a reason you see no purple in the picture.

>>14514801

Nah you're full of shit.

>>14514805

You're a cretin and a retard, Your example isn't even colourful go suck cock somewhere else you literal homoshit.

I was sick of hearing you faggots whinge about colour twenty years ago.

The fact you think this is a new interesting subject shows your underage little ignorant millenial cunt.

This subject started with games like medal of honour, Quake and Killzone and its nonsense proto-kotaku trash.

>>14514814

I think you're overreacting.

>>14514820

Nah you are a cunt that thinks hes discovered something new.

When people brought this up over Quake.

What was Unreal?

When they brought it up over Medal of Honour and Killzone

What was Final Fantasy?

Xbrick generation?

What was Jet set radio future?

You want homoshit just come out and say it.

>>14514839

But what about Atari, Nes, Commodore, etc.

All colourful. Not sure exactly why you think colour is bad and no-colour is good.

>>14514801

Certain colors were associated with aristocracy because of the high cost of their dye material, that is correct. Purple, for example, was associated with nobility because the raw organic material that the dye was pulled from was rare and in many cases had to be imported.

This, however, does not mean that ALL colors were expensive and unaffordable to the peasantry, who would only go around dressed in browns and blacks and grey and the off-white color of linen or wool. Yellow, for example can be pulled from onion skins or weld, both of which can found easily in Europe, and thus accessible to the average peasant. Another example is orange. Common leaves and peat, if properly mixed with ammonia, can produce a bright orange color. I don't think I need to tell you what an easily available source of ammonia would be during the medieval ages. Green is obtainable from lichen (also common), and so is blue from woad (fairly common, not as much as regular lichen but still not "nobility" rare).

There's also the case of dye baths being used multiple times to dye clothing. The first and brightest batch would be for nobility, and purple was reserved for royalty, but subsequent dye baths for rare colors like red (which utilized madder, brazilwood, or kermes from insects and thus fairly rare materials) were used for clothing commonly available to peasantry. So no, peasants were not limited to dull colors only. They might be a little bit darker than the color shades for nobility (and if you were really poor then fairly faded out colors), but they were still decently shaded and definitely not only just hues of brown.

Source: https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/68763/what-color-dyes-would-be-available-to-the-average-person-in-a-medieval-world

>>14514852

I never once claimed colourful games were bad or games with less colourful artstyles were better.

I'm criticising your tired argument that there is something wrong with realistic games with less colourful artistic directions. And that there isn't a variety of games always available.

Its competely asinine to whinge about historic games lacking the colour of borderlands this is peak retardation.

>>14514668

Some colors are more expensive than others mr. expert historian, based on how the pigment is made. Lords were also extremely proud of their lands and status, and so their soldiers and servants who travelled would be dressed in colors befitting the lord's heraldry. The only game I've seen reflect this outside of Total War in recent memory is KCD, which even touches on knights using plain (uncolored) shields in order to remain incognito. In general, sure a peasant would be less colorful, but not as drab as most games trying to represent the period or a fantasy analogue.

>>14514874

Oh yeah, and Mount & Blade, but that game came out 10 years ago.

>>14514855

Another thing you people miss is the vibrancy of colour.

Vibrant colour was rare.

This is where the association with dull colour comes from.

Furthermore sonething like Red was very common. Since it can be made from clay. This is pretty universal and timeless.

>The first and brightest batch would be for nobility

It wouldn't matter how many times you soaked so ething in a colour not all colour pigments are the same.

>So no, peasants were not limited to dull colors only.

Yes they pretty much were. Since vibrant colour required the most money to obtain.

>>14514879

>>14514866

How do you keep managing to get blown the fuck out?

>>14514887

Probably for the same reason his "m" key is broken. Or he's phoneposting and managed to make the word bank register "so ething" like an idiot.

>>14514879

And yet vibrancy can be produced for many of those colors by dipping the dyed cloth in a bath of ammonia afterwards (again, easily obtainable even during the medieval period). People have even reproduced it using period-accurate ingredients and methods in the modern day, following traditional recipes. Here: https://medievaltailor.com/research/period-dyes-and-colors/

>>14514901

Ad hominem

>>14514913

Since you asked so nicely…

You're pathetic dumbass that should learn to type coherent sentences and your arguments consist of contradiction. Wait, that last bit wasn't even ad hominem.

>>14514917

>Thinks ad hominem is an argument

You are using the crutch of a retard.

Nothing like your contradiction that peasants were wealthy or even allowed to have extravagent clothes.

Do you think it was permissable for a peasant to dress like nobility?

You are a complete fucking idiot.

Heres a typo for yu.

>>14514925

I didn't say anything like that. Nice strawman though. It must be difficult for an angry peasant such as yourself to keep your crops safe from scavengers.

>>14514912

Lapis Lazuli came from the middle east and was very expensive. It was the most vibrant blue of the time.

Purple came from crushed shells from a particular region. Again rare.

Peasants didn't have rare things they were peasants.

>>14514932

>Keeps going back to purple and blue again and again after being provided sources proving him directly wrong

Your lord will hear about this insolence, serf.

>>14514928

> based on how the pigment is made. Lords were also extremely proud of their lands and status, and so their soldiers and servants who travelled would be dressed in colors befitting the lord's heraldry

You want to continue your stupid rat like shit or are you going to learn to stfu worm?

>>14514937

You aren't provng anything most people in the medieval period had access to a limited colour palette of dull colours.

Even the nobility didn't have as many options as we do now.

Its cheaper to have undyed clothes and peasants were poor.

>>14514925

Peasants were forbidden specifically from the color purple, and certain items of fashionable clothing ( one could not wear "very wide trousers" or "excessively large neckerchiefs" in 18th century Germany, for example: https://www.historyextra.com/period/modern/beware-what-you-buy-the-goods-german-citizens-were-forbidden-to-consume/ ), but they could still wear most other colors, and there was even a practice of the nobility passing down their used clothing to serfs during the earlier medieval periods: https://books.google.com/books?id=yiGhBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA199&lpg=PA199&dq=medieval+hand+me+down+clothing&source=bl&ots=wsBp-B_g4i&sig=-nsfyydUo1FKFpCsn_t1FjzpWac&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjBvP7up_rZAhUNyGMKHWZrBqgQ6AEwCXoECAAQTQ#v=onepage&q=medieval%20hand%20me%20down%20clothing&f=false

So as a matter of fact, as long as the clothing was not purple (or crimson, an extremely bright red produced from the first batch of red dyes), a peasant could actually end up with noble clothing. Hand me down noble clothing, but still clothing that was initially produced for a member of the upper ranks of society.

>>14514932

Vibrant blues could also be obtained from dyeing in woad, and then applying ammonia from urine afterwards, as shown in my link in >>14514912

If you look at the colors of the dyed wool towards the bottom of the page that were made in traditional medieval style with traditional medieval ingredients, many of which were available to peasants and not requiring importation, they are not particularly dark and brown in hue (aside from the walnut shell dyed one, which is specifically dyed to be brown).

>>14514938

What you quoted is true though and disproves what you said. You're evidently not an english speaker and likely very low IQ.

>>14514610

This.

Shit can only produce shit.

>>14514346

Fun fact. Dark Knights were so called because they were the Western equivalent of Ronin: often disgraced nobles who could no longer afford a page boy to polish and maintain their armor for them. So they painted their armor black with dark grease to protect them from oxidization.

Why do you even argue with this obnoxious sperg?

All he does is throw insults and chimp out like a nigger despite being btfo'd repeatedly. Just stop giving him (You)s.

>>14514950

The first point is what ive been saying.

Second point doesn't mean anything itd fade in a month and be dull.

>>14514954

It isn't true as anon said abve and as I yave been saying peasants were literally not allowed to wear extravagant clothing.

Logically this makes sense to someone with a functional iq but you are lacking.

Being a libtard revisionist.

>>14514966

Son if you can't stand heated chan arguments just fucking commit soduku.

>>14514967

Nobody made the claim they could wear extravagant clothing; We're talking about vibrant colors as opposed to washed out grey and brown trash. Your strawman is a non argument. Also, the only anon above who might have agreed with you specifically said that peasants would sometimes be given used clothing by their lords and such.

>>14514969

There is a difference between a proper argument and replying to low effort bottom feeders.

>>14514967

>he thinks a peasant is the same thing as a servant or soldier in the service of a lord

God damn. I know you'll just scream ad hominem again, but it is very evident that you are very ignorant on this subject.

>>14514973

Vibrant colours were not easily obtainable.

That isn't a strawman kiddo. Its historic fact.

Idiot the anon agreed with me that they were prohibited to wear purple etc.

Stop being a little faggot jesus christ not even cuckchanners are this mentally ill.

>>14514610

I forgot Morrowind was a Japanese game, thanks anon.

>>14514984

>No, your sources are wrong. I'm right.

>doesn't provide any sources

Why are you still here? Is it not fucking obvious to you yet that we won't simply take you at your word?

>>14514967

You've been saying in >>14514943 , >>14514879, >>14514789 that peasants in the medieval period only had access to dull, drab colors, faded out shades of red, yellow, and brown. However, my sources have demonstrated that fairly bright version of those colors, as well as others like green and blue, would have also been available and widely worn by peasants, as the ammonia bath method for lightening colors was widespread, and the ingredients for said colors had easily obtainable local sources.

>>14514979

>thinks serfs wore colourful heraldry.

>>14514994

I'm assuming you are colourblind of something because the examples of peasants and other commoners or the general population in that period.

They wore dull colours you can look this up.

>>14514990

>Someone is disagreeing with me on the internet fucking make it stop

little bitch.

>>14514995

I'm going to call you Mobius, because you keep infinitely repeating the same thing over and over. Mind if I call you Moby? Actually scratch that, it reminds me too much of the shitty trance artist.

>>14515002

Ad hominem

>>14515005

Insults aren't ad hominem you cuck.

>>14515010

>it's not ad hominem anymore

Wait, does that mean you conceded and admit I'm right?

>>14515023

saying a person is wrong because of a typo is ad hominem.

Being called a bitch is not ad hominem.

So no you are always wrong you are just that kinda guy(female)

>>14515038

Incidentally, you can also produce shades of green dye by simply combining blue and yellow dyes. So combine a dye of onion skins (cheap) and a dye of woad (less cheap, but not expensive) to get more green dye if you don't want to use lichen, and then dip it into ammonia to brighten it.

>>14514984

>Weren't easily attainable

Yeah they were. 'Blue' and 'Purple' are not the only vibrant colors. It was quite common throughout the medieval and renaissance ages to have colored and vibrant clothing.

>S-stop disagreeing with me

Go back to plebbit if you're this assmad at being wrong.

>>14514993

the dev team most likely had people in it that actually knew about the middle ages

My main complaint with ops argument is the issue is they don't like it so have created this delusional revisionist argument to try and say why it should be changed.

Just like the fucking sjw that cram negresses into world war games.

This kind of thinking is so dishonest fuck off with it ok.

Like the faggots that don't like leg day so try to come up with some lengthy stupid argument why they don't need to squats.

I'm so sick of stupid cunts like you.

You don't like something ok terrific play Mario or borderlands. Don't try to push obvious bullshit to fit your opinion.

>>14515088

>(29)

How can the guy who is as fluent in english as a nigger manage to be more retarded than the average nigger?

>>14515109

I was about to post essentially the same thing.

Who gives a fart? there are bigger fish to fry now.

>>14514299

>I don't know shit about pigments - the post

>>14515242

>Who gives a fart?

I'm not gonna tell your mom if you say "fuck" here anon.

>>14515286

He's being sarcastic you autist.

>>14515003

>Moby

>Trance

A true retard

>>14514378

You are a faggot for being so obnoxious about calling things gay that have NOTHING AT ALL to do with man-on-man fucking.

>>14514610

That's the area of effect.

The question is why.

>>14514668

Some colors and dyes were very expensive, but others were readily available.

You are stupid if you think that somehow everything would just look brown or grey.

>>14515088

>(29)

>~25% of the total posts

>Just sperging because he has been proven wrong

Jesus, just leave

>>14515034

Ad hominem is attacking the person not the argument.

It is ad hominem and you’re moving the goalpost (again).

you stupid kike

>>14514793

>Its not just colorlessness but also just bad art design in general. Often there are designs that are colorful but the they are so ornate and gaudy that is becomes paradoxically mono-color.

>mono-color.

Exactly. Everything looks the same and the only color difference is different shades of blue and orange in these images.

That is exactly what I was talking about.

>>14514714

Aaaaaaand filtered!

>703b81 (29)

Holy shit are you ass blasted.

>Furthermore sonething like Red was very common. Since it can be made from clay

>Lapis Lazuli came from the middle east and was very expensive. It was the most vibrant blue of the time.

Those aren't used for fabrics you nut.

Woad made a brilliant blue and was common enough that my ancestors use to paint themselves with it.

Rich reds could be made from alkanet and madder and St. John's wort

Yellows and greens of all shades could be made from so many different kinds of plants that I'm not even going attempt to list them.

>>14515088

>revisionist

You are are aware that many of these "medieval" games don't even claim to take place in our world, right?

>>14515545

Oh yeah Tolkien is nothing but optimistic sunshine, it was only until WB that anything even a shade darker was thrown in. Need I remind you of the scouring of the shire?

>>14515558

There is a difference between using dark and sunshine moments to contrast each other as opposed to just making every moment of the experience be just as depressing as the last.

>LOTR

>frodo begins at the shire and adventure into the unknown away from your comfort zone but have your close friends supporting you

>Shadow of Mordor

>right from the start

>hey here is your wife and children being murdered right in front of you, now get really pissed off at this and journey on a quest solely fueled by personal revenge

You are honestly fucking retarded if you think the two universes are even remotely alike in tone.

>>14515507

>Announcing filters

I blame Wasteland or Fallout 1.

not Todd

Muh "realistic" rooty tooty point n' shooties.

Quake was one of the first due to color limitations. Browns had the widest arrange of colors available.

>>14514257

This shit, do people not know how much color was valued? Painters were expensive for a reason!

Nobles would color the ever loving shit out of everything they had just to prove they had the disposable income to do it.

Purple is the royal color for a god damn reason you had to pay for the labor of collecting snail shells, grinding and processing them, then making them into dyes or paint. Fucking nobody outisde of royalty could afford that so they flaunted the hell out of it.

>>14515342

You know why.

Jews. And their leftist slaves.

Kill both groups and everything improves.

>>14514299

Exactly, it's not like the kings and lords had to make sure the towns/village-people were being taken care of or anything…

People being really fucking poor in the middle-ages is bs.

>>14515928

Wouldn't it mostly depend on how good your lord is and if he isn't an incompetent asshole with his head far up his ass?

From what I remember people were keeping fairly clean in the middle ages and the trend of keeping dirty became more popular later on, or is that bullshit as well?

>>14514694

These days they would complain that the Swede is white.

>>14515924

I just feel so cynical about everything, anon-friend. :(

And we won't get forward, if we just advocate killing them. But at least making the public aware of Jews is important. We can't just give them a free pass and handle them like white people, since they identify as something seperate and even opposed to us. Of course they are, otherwise mass-conversion and other measures would have worked.

What is rest of identifable jewishness is the hard core of extreme xenophobia.

>>14514225

Gears of War, IIRC

>>14515702

Even if the middle-ages were drab, that's mainly by our standards looking back. To some peasant walking around, a standard chapel probably looked amazing and the world felt magical and chaotic at the same time.

The irony being, that some of the more fantasy-based medieval games, give a better presentation of how the real characters saw the world. I've seen very few games/or movies achieve that balance (if it's even possible).

>>14516020

I concur, people back then aren't much different compared to people of today. What i mean by this is that they're still humans filled with curiosity of how the world works and that they tried their damned hardest to understand it. Unfortunately, knowledge comes at the price of trial and error, thus since they failed, they were simply regarded as 'backwards' for not understanding it in the first place.

What also really interesting to note is that humans had always had an affinity for imagery, from the Cave paintings of pre-civilization to the current works of art today (art as in movies, games, and mangos, not that fucking degenerate """"art"""), humans have a fascination of the world they lived. A trait not shared by any other animals in the face of this earth. We were have always been imaginative creatures, and since then we have also evolved in another way that defied mother nature herself.

>>14514264

It's been around since before GoW.

The true culprit I find is Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. Those two games cemented the brown and bloom look permenantly in the consciousness of video games as "artistic". I dare you find find an earlier game with as much influence. You can't. Ico was the beginning.

Elder scrolls has always been a crime against aesthetics.

>>14522802

don't pretend that's a representative of /pol/ m8, that's some fag throwing words around trying to fit in and make it sound like his opinion is authoritative.

>Love the world design in DS1/2

>Play 3

>The sky is grey.

>The grass is grey.

>The cathedrals are grey.

>The swamps are grey.

Archdragon peak was the only good area in that fucking game. It also had the only boss that wasn't roll/attack until dead formulaic garbage.

>>14515892

>Purple is the royal color for a god damn reason you had to pay for the labor of collecting snail shells, grinding and processing them, then making them into dyes or paint. Fucking nobody outisde of royalty could afford that so they flaunted the hell out of it.

Why didn't they just mix blue and red?

>>14522802

>I can’t read what was written

>lol /pol/ now you’re demoralized

Talk about retardation.

>>14515042

why does that cat's mouth look like a vagina

>>14523729

>second image

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just film in a real bathroom?

Me. I did.

>>14523751

No, actually. Usually these types of things are filmed in bulk with many scenes in the same day. It's easier and faster to move blocks and props around than it is to travel to several locations. Even moving and setting up all the equipment to the nearest small bathroom would have been more time consuming and costly.

When games moved to real-time lighting & shadows with pixel shaders shit turned drab since you're generally not in environments with full sunlight and the math is loosely based on reality. That's what I think happened, at least.

>>14524555

>everything about this webm

>>14523844

So you're saying brown and grey games aren't bland they're just realistic? That's even more depressing.

>>14524555

Nice trips and nice webm lad.

>>14514793

Please tell me 3rd picture isn't Lords of the Fallen because it looks cool

>>14523844

>>14530628

Brown and grey games with drab lighting are easier to fake realism in because when everything is half-covered in shadow, the mind fills in the blanks. It's the game version of candlelight making people look better than they really do.

>>14533009

No the real reason is because there was a sort of uncanny valley for colors and shading that you'd notice unconsciously, since we have the technology to no longer have to deal with that there is no excuse to go grey and brown anymore. it's like why action protagonists are shaved and have stoically angry expressions, it's much easier to avoid the uncanny valley that way.

>>14514966

>hey, don't respond to him

>>14514977

>responds to him

Good job, anon.

>>14533365

Welcome to retards.

>>14533009

Oh shit is that why candles are used?

>>14523751

Most movies are money laundering schemes so what it costs doesn't matter.

>>14539704

>Most movies are money laundering schemes so what it costs doesn't matter.

For germans usually.

>>14541223

>germans being the jews of europe

Surprise surprise.

>>14548263

t. eternal anglo

>>14514225

Consoles with inferior hardware.

>>14561048

>>>/reddit/

>>14561048

Up for debate the process started after consoles and home pcs were already closer in stats than ever before.

Because ADHD kids that need flashing colors to keep them interested don't buy video games as much as autistick neckbeards do.

>>14567408

But neckbeards like color.

>>14569279

Strong disagree.

The neckbeards want realistic armors that honorable samurai actually wore or could actually be made by the peasant blacksmith of their european dreams.

Color is too expensive for peasants so everything has to be grey or brown.

>>14532948

it is

>medieval europe was full of vibrant diversity of (((colour))) goyim

yeh fuck off nigger lovers warhorse was right

>>14569566

#based vavra

>>14569710

Right that makes sense.

>>14565644

He's just baiting for a console war.

>>14569710

this so called info graphic is shit.

derp we can't see red, blue, green, yellow on a computer. (while we look at the graphic on a computer).

>>14514225

Why does Oblivion have a habit of rounding off and smoothing shit while Skyrim makes everything angular and ugly? That's the one thing that made me hate Skyrim the most. It's fucking ugly compared to it's two predecessors with zero life. I bought the game on launch because my normalfag friend kept telling me how they were "going back and adding everything Morrowind AND Oblivion had with way more stuff" which I was skeptical about but I wanted to be optimistic. The first fucking ten hours was dull as fuck even with the whole dragon thing and even then it was painfully obvious you weren't in danger the entire time. In Morrowind if you could get jumped by something way stronger than you just by taking a few steps out of the starting village. Oblivion was the same, you were in constant danger if you weren't careful exiting the sewers when you first begin with nothing but a rusty dagger and some shitty leather armor. Skyrim tosses a pack of wolves at you and immediately after you get a set of iron armor.

Oblivion in my opinion was Todd's last decent game aside from FO3. Anything afterwards was creative bankruptcy and the embracing of kikery. It's not just the environments that piss me off, it's the lack of atmosphere and content with each passing game onwards from that point.

>>14514236

Maybe if you're a nigger. Real people have always done what they could to make everything look cool.

>>14514225

>Who started the trend in media to just wash the color out of everything?

It's a relic of the past when palettes were smaller and swapping was computationally expensive.

>>14514257

>>14515892

But that also means that the peasantry had very little color available to them. So If you are out in some village or crafting shit for yourself having a limited pallet of very muted colors makes a great deal of sense.

>>14514225

I just want to say that Skyrim's Daedric and Ebony armor is far better than anything in either of the other games. I can think of more than a few complaints about the other skyrim armors, but those two are excellent.

>>14580439

the reason we use RGB for color reproduction is because it is how our eyes work. Addition of another color channel doesn't really change the premise at which our eyes determine color and doesn't address the universal way our technology renders color. Adding a non-standard channel that nothing has been prepared for means that guess work must be done in processing which means it'll be inaccurate calculations that do not represent what we are seeing.

The problem is the way LCD pixels work. A phosphor like SMPTE-C, Rec 709, P22, P43, etc. is ultimately better for grading color information.

>>14580568

It's classic new tech standard problem.

It won't be adopted until there's stuff that uses it but nobody will make stuff that uses it until its more widely adopted.

>>14583695

it's really a problem of it being a cheat to avoid enhancing LCD technology. I have a 10-bit color master monitor from 2002 and most LCDs produced today are still 8-bit.

>>14580546

>But that also means that the peasantry had very little color available to them.

Red was a very common color available for people all throughout the middle ages all the way to the pioneer era of exploring the new world, in fact red and blue had a sort of poor man vs upper class man thing going on for the colonies in North America because of duties on imports. But that's not really the biggest problems with the drab colors in games, no the biggest problem is that the natural color of shit you see outside everyday is also washed out deliberately as a cheat to not have to design and develop a good lighting engine. So everything and I do mean everything from the natural green and vibrant hues of certain crops and flowers to things that have no right being a shade of brown is all washed out and dull.

Plus there is this prevalent idea that every single mideival kingdom and region was the same, so blanket statements like "peasant can't X or have Y" paints a very misleading picture because peasants were even less then commoners and those diaries kept around by nobles were overtly snooty and biased to everything.

>>14583712

What more can you really do once you go 10bit lcd though?

>>14583866

12 bit.

What the fuck is going on?

>>14583869

Is it feasible?

>>14514371

>ywn ride a thundering warhorse into Constantinople and smashing roaches with your warhammer so hard there almost seems to be a hitstop

Why even live?

>>14514225

because all of the fucking kids in the industry are too fucking stupid to learn color theory

/thread

>>14583941

bvm-e250 and bvm-x300

>>14580439

>third pic

>showing the comparison so that people using a conventional monitor can see the difference

I kek'd.

>>14580322

Yes, yes, and the Divine Comedy is “Self-insert fan fiction.” Keep spitting on European literary tradition, you cunt.

>>14580553

Skyrim's armors in general look the best, it's just the colors are washed out.

>>14514397

I wanna fuck that Knight

communists

Maybe Morrowind

>>14515573

Is a shame if you ever wanted to play an orc horde simulator.

>>14580322

And? You can boil down any media into that.

>>14585576

Explain.

>>14591803

Well shit.