f009c3 No.14498707
>has a literal single frame slash as a basic attack in a game where all attacks have large amounts of windup if you step within a certain range, which he can also use to set you off balance during an attack and parry your attacks, no other enemy does this on purpose and when they do hit your attack, they tend to reel back and you get extra EXP for it
>Has a slightly slower variation that has 4 frame windup where he jumps forward and slashes
>Has a pillar of fire attack he can throw out at any time that also has magnet properties so it sucks you in from longer range if you try to roll out of it
>Starts attacking twice as much and spawns homing magic orbs along where he slices when he gets down a bar
>when you do do damage to him, even with a top-level keyblade, it's at a piddling flat damage rate determined by each strike, attack ratings can't actually help you.
and worst/best of all
>Has so much health that his health bar has color layers unique to him and overflows so that it looks like you're doing no damage to him at first, so if you just got into the fight as a kid without knowing about it you'd be demoralized as well, further setting the oppressive tone of the whole fight outside of graphics and presentation
Best designed superboss fite me fgt
What other games go to this length to present an AI opponent like this to specifically fuck with you and subvert everything you've been taught so far? There's always a classic boss that acts as an exam based on what you've learned, but I haven't seen a game that trains you and then fucks you this hard based on weaknesses it specifically built into you.
I've seen badly designed damage sponges that end up as tedious rather then challanging, what are your favorite superbosses?
63a618 No.14498717
>based on weaknesses it specifically built into you.
Why though
44e45b No.14498755
Fun character that always ups his game but the actual fight is damn near impossible unless you resort to the just-frame counters.
a1cd3b No.14498757
f009c3 No.14498771
>>14498717
The best way to fuck someone is to slowly build them up, make them happy make them feel like they're on top of the world, the master of their domain and then crush their ego with a series of swift kicks to the fucking teeth.
And then you tell them to get the fuck back up and learn from it. And then you do it again.
Or you present a rather comfy game with a well designed difficulty curve, then at the final last minute, in a secret area, in a little optional place, maybe right after that awesome fight you gave them earlier that was hard but fair, you present another challenge to reward them. And you reward the FUCK out of them. You reward them HARD.
>>14498755
Pretty much all of Jo's fights are
>Abuse the game or lose faggot
fights, and they make you feel fucking dirty for doing it.
Specifically in 4 you have to gear your whole team with game breaking shit just to deal with his team since no one outside of Kiryu has counters and Tanimura's isn't very useful since it transfers into a grab.
>>14498757
No, fuck him, he went too far.
a1cd3b No.14498824
>>14498771
>No, fuck him, he went too far.
You don't want to grind for ten hours in the sewers?
f009c3 No.14498839
>>14498824
The grind isn't even the worst part about that Anti-Deus Vult
MOTHERFUCKER
Literally all his fight is RNG, from the shit he summons to the attacks he does. He has absolutely no pattern, and specifically fucks you if you put on certain skills, he can kill you turn one and you have no say. Level 99 is nothing.
bb0d32 No.14498840
>>14498755
>but the actual fight is damn near impossible unless you resort to the just-frame counters
He's hard but he isn't that fucking hard. Are you not bringing healing items to the fucking hardest fight in the game anon?
608214 No.14498841
>>14498757
Which is worse; Demi-Fiend in DDS1 or Satan in DDS2?
58fa5b No.14498861
>>14498841
I would say Demi-fiend
6aabc1 No.14498873
>>14498757
>>14498841
>>14498861
>mfw the random encounter theme from 3 plays when you fight him
>mfw you're just a random encounter to him
That fight is the definition of you dun fucked up, son.
3401dd No.14498923
>Sephiroth the best superboss
>implying
b7a1d7 No.14498929
>>14498707
You know what really bothers me about this fight?
It's the fact that when we were younger, playing our incomplete KH non-final mix experience on our Televisison using the RGB cables, it's that this guy's fucking voice is objectively superior to the fuck who actually voices him in every other FF7 installment, solely because it actually ties in with his character post-isanity and sounds something akin to Johan Liebert of Monster.
Like, you cannot ever hope to convince me the FF7 Remake will EVER nail the "I'm going to see mother" scene right when the music kicked in at that perfect camera angle that actually get's your heart beating because the fucker who voices Sephiroth aleady sounds like a corny saturday morning cartoon villian- but the KH1 voice that sounds all holier than Thou? I can see that happening solely because it actually has an innocence to it not present with the other voice, one that can be twisted to hold darker undertone assurdedly, given that Sephiroth was supposed to be a really swell fellow who just so happened to be powerful before he went batshit insane, casting his voice as dark and brooding prior to him changing character has got to be one of the worst directive decisions made for Final Fantasy 7 as an entire saga as I see it.
That said- actually hearing the Kh1 Sephiroth voicelines outside of the filter of the way we used to hear it through the telly, they're actually pretty shit, unless the voice effects distortions through this medium and the ongoing one-winged angel cover with the fight SFX actually masked some of the more glaring parts of the VA who did Sephiroth's voice- but still, I remember it sounding incredibly ideal.
b7a1d7 No.14498948
>>14498923
>When to this day, we could've done half of the fucking shit he did if BBS wasn't shated to the fucking PSP
>When BBS's cut content, next to 2 is objectively one of the fucking worst things ever done and released in the west
There is literally no point in playing a non final Mix BBS just because of the fucking final bosses you miss out on- no one on this god-given earth deserved to be denied fucking Dismiss- that shit was the culimation of buttloads of Desatei covers we all grew to love, as a literal Almost pretty sure you sampled it cover of Star Wars Duel of the Fates sort of thing.
4d4fbf No.14498962
>>14498841
Satan in SMT Imagine. The fight was so bullshit that it literally killed the game. I think he had near a billion HP, was only vulnerable to damage for a few seconds at a time, and had a DPS check that, if failed, would launch undodgeable megido bursts that always did 9999 damage, separated the party into different sections of the area, and spawned a ton of nigh invincible ghouls that also spammed megidos. Digitalizing with an Isis that had been mitama fused would let you survive because of her trait that drained almighty damage, but digitalize only lasted 5 or so minutes and had a cooldown of 3 or so hours, so even if you were autistic enough to fill all 10 of your comp slots with mitama fused Isises, you still needed to pass that DPS check sooner or later. The only way to pass was to have the latest and greatest in cash shop gear. This fight made the dev team aware that the cash shop gear had gotten so out of hand that there was no way to ever make new content that would be remotely enjoyable anymore, so they decided to just kill the game instead.
5ba708 No.14498970
>>14498923
is his hand ok?
e22bd3 No.14498981
>>14498841
I had to bust out the pen and gaming journal and make a system to beat Demi-Fiend, so that by far. As an aside, after twenty years of usage, gaming notes look like ramblings of a mad occultist.
608214 No.14499013
>>14498962
Youch. And I thought Imagine went under when the company hosting the servers went under.
3401dd No.14499028
>>14498948
I could write you a literal essay about how much I hate BBS, anon.
d2dc5d No.14499030
>>14498960
I will give you a fucking paper cut on the tip of your dick.
608214 No.14499057
>>14499028
I actually love autistic essays about why someone hates a game. Post it, anon.
983164 No.14499090
4d4fbf No.14499096
>>14499013
I should probably have specified that I was talking about the Japanese server. The NA server died because whoever ran it just decided to stop updating the game. After several years without a single new bit of content, the game was a ghost town and they pulled the plug. At the time of its death, NA Imagine was 3.5 years worth of content behind the JP server.
6dddef No.14499104
>>14499030
He's not entirely wrong.
4af33a No.14499250
>>14498929
>VA who did sephiroth
Wasn't is Lance Bass?
7e23f9 No.14499297
>>14498707
I prefer the KH2 one tbh
a1cd3b No.14499303
>>14499297
The one you can kill in a single berserk combo?
1b05dc No.14499304
>>14498970
Yes, that's just what happens after years of proper keyblade handling.
87d91a No.14499312
>>14499297
Minerva is at level 100 and has 20,000,000 HP and 999,999 MP. Her special move is Judgment Arrow that greatly depletes the player's HP, takes away their MP and AP and nullifies buffs (including Raise).
Zack will need to be able to break the damage limit. The battle should not be entered without a Costly Punch Materia, which will deal a maximum of 99,999 damage (if the player only uses Costly Punch it will take 202 hits to win), a Full Cure/Curaga Materia, a Phoenix Down, a lot of Elixir, Soma, and Ether items.
It would be recommended that as soon as the player sees Judgment Arrow, they switch to Ether, and select it so that Zack can restore his MP and use Full Cure. It is also advised to have Zack equipped with a Phoenix Down, and if he uses that one, mug more from Minerva.
It is not worth equipping a Libra because Minerva's HP and MP are hidden due to being so high.
ed95b2 No.14499354
>>14498771
>Amon fight in Yakuza 4
>Equip Tanimura with the bullet blocking armor and cheese his fight.
>Akiyama and Kiryu were straight forward
>Struggle with Saejima because I’m an impatient fuck and kept getting raped by the sledgehammer.
a1cd3b No.14499364
>>14499312
Not hard, just bloated numbers.
fe8604 No.14499381
>played KH1 day one
>got up to can't remember where
>get lost somehow
>don't know where the fuck I'm supposed to go
>fly to every world I can
>still get lost
I guess that boss was after when I got lost or something, what a strange game. Had the same problem with chain of memories.
f34b39 No.14499386
>first boss of the game
>you barelly have any moves or weapons to fight him
>barelly had time to practice how to move since he is almost at the begining of the game
>every enemy until him is cannon fodder you can just hack n' slash your way through
>lighting fast attacks
>blocks almost everything you throw at him
>massive health bar
>barelly any way to heal yourself mid fight
>did i mention he's the first boss of the game?
>likelly a harder fight than the final boss
09d9b6 No.14499410
>>14499386
Literally a casual filter
8cd4fa No.14499491
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>>14498755
I didn't even mind dying to him so many times in Kiwami because the music was so good.
f34b39 No.14499564
>>14499410
don't lie to yourself nor me
if you beat this guy you beat it after your hundred try
f9b61a No.14499571
>DMC4
>first fight with Dante is a tutorial for moves and such
>then have to fight him for real for a bit having just learned what to do
>get absolutely stomped
>1/2 way through the game you fight him again
>he's the same but now you have a tonne of upgrades, extra moves, and practice
>it's a fucking cakewalk
>game continues but this time you play as Dante
>get a bunch of new weapons and upgrades for him
>new game plus
>Dante tutorial boss also keeps all the weapons and upgrades you unlocked for him
>get fucking stomped again
I was pleasantly surprised.
f009c3 No.14499630
>>14499386
>>14499564
I died only once and I was fucking 12.
Not even Matador level my man.
Block and attack him when he's not attacking.
a557b5 No.14499637
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>>14498707
Spot on.
It was a great moment for fans of Final Fantasy, to be able to fight him in real time and with an A.I that delivered everything that we expected from him.
Forever remarkable.
As for other bosses, around the same time that i got Kingdom Hearts, i got Time Crisis 2 for PS2, and there is a secret boss fight against Richard Miller, the main character from the first game. At the time, to me, this was equally impressive as the Sephiroth fight. Defeating Richard required the player to know everything about the game and use it well.
See vid related.
and take note that every single "red bullet' is a 100% hit shot, as in, if he shots red bullets, you take damage if you don't hide quickly, with less than a second to do so.
f009c3 No.14499652
>>14499303
You can't, actually, not in the western release or Final Mix versions. Both Sephiroth versions do a teleport if you decide to start abusing combos, it's actually better to equip only one finisher and lower your combo count with abilities because of this.
He is pretty much the ONLY ENEMY that does this, he's pretty good in KH2 as well, he's less difficult in general though, but ends up being WAY more flashy.
2625d0 No.14499802
dc10e1 No.14499862
>when you do do damage to him, even with a top-level keyblade, it's at a piddling flat damage rate determined by each strike
So anyone that focused stats on attack just wasted them for this fight? Sounds like shit design to me.
f009c3 No.14499963
>>14499862
Not at all, you still have the same amount of HP and no matter what build you choose you'll still have enough MP to spam special moves like Ars Arcanum, since the MP build only gives you an extra section, and the various MP management skills are all learned by the time you're ready to fight him. On top of that you can modify your attributes with accessories you picked up. If anything the MP build has the most trouble because it has the least defence, magic doesn't work on him much at all because of the flat damage, and he does crazy fuckhuge damage with his attacks.
If you specilized in Attack then you'll have easy to use charge-in moves that bypass his slash that you don't get on an MP path until WAY high up in level, some builds don't get skills that are considered basic in other paths til level 99. Attack trades cures for mobility and bypassing a lot of his shit with a little skill because of Attack's slide-ins.
If you're Attack, you'll be rushing him down with slide attacks, if you're defence you'll be counter-attacking and if you're magic you'll make up for the fact that you suck at both for more cures.
33b7d1 No.14500067
>>14499096
Ffs i wanted to get into imagine then it was too late. Are there any private servers up?
608214 No.14500072
>>14500067
I did some googling and found 2. First one's Chinese but the other seems English.
http://imagine.acg7.com/
http://reimagine.online/about/
41c47f No.14500137
>>14499381
>got lost in CoM
That game is about as linear as it gets
2ab15a No.14500142
>>14499963
Are you fucking avatarfagging?
a8dfd3 No.14500158
He should be wearing his Dissidia gear in KH3 if they put him in the game. They need to make the fight impossible to pull off unless you're max level and…oh fuck it, he's probably getting tired of dealing with Sora anyway.
>why the fuck's this kid keep bothering me? I'm not even part of his little gay quest.
830073 No.14500183
I just don't see the point of them. I guess they are normally optional but I really don't know why you'd want to play the same fight over and over and over again until you finally beat some mega boss.
I don't understand the appeal.
a8dfd3 No.14500196
>>14500183
There's really no reason for Sephiroth to even be in there. He's honestly above this shit as a character. It makes no sense for him to be there fucking with Cloud. Maybe if Zack was in the game since he actually knew him but not Cloud. Cloud is just a puppet.
a7000d No.14500207
I remember one anon talking about an FF MMO game that had an unkillable world boss. So naturally everyone teamed up to kill it. This led to bans and devs hot patching the boss midfight because they were fighting it for 18h or something
>>14498873
>>14498861
>youre just a random encounter
Subtle and horrifying
>>14500142
>single image as a reaction
>avatarfagging
37303c No.14500250
>>14500207
They were referring to Final Fantasy XI's boss Absolute Virtue.
f009c3 No.14500312
>>14500142
Do you have a phobia of gifs?
608214 No.14500322
>>14500207
>>14500250
What was the story behind Absolute Virtue anyway? Why did they always patch ways to beat it before the 18 Hour incident? Was it someone on the Dev team's OC?
f009c3 No.14500338
>>14500322
Absolute virtue was a Notorious Monster, so it didn't have a unique model, it just carried a red spear that represented it's Dragoon class. For all I can gather, it was meant to be unbeatable when it came out, but I suspect that it wasn't someone's pet project, it might have been the ultimate challenge so that people would attempt to slay it in order to work out design issues or glitches.
It took 24 hours to beat it? Make him despawn after one hour to shut down attrition tactics so you can REALLY see how people play. Someone beats him with a glitch? Patch it. Someone beats him by hacking? Ban and figure out how he did it.
Absolute Virtue might have been a troll, but there's ways to use something like that to gather data, improve classes, figure out why people use certain abilities over others and then in future content make changes based on that through designing bosses to exploit how top players play.
Or, you know, fucking with people. Once expansions came out damage inflation made him possible, so they ditched him. He was just the endgame challenge of the vanilla game. Final Fantasy at that point made a point to include balls hard superbosses, so he was probably a test that was being balanced (He had all the job 2 hours and could use them whenever he wanted for starters) but players immediately found him so I guess it became a game for the devs.
a8dfd3 No.14500343
>>14500312
What the fuck is that cat's problem?
21bf63 No.14500344
125fb0 No.14500424
>>14500183
They're nice in roguelikes/lites when you have to go through the entire game just to get one shot at them. Nothing feels more satisfying than beating that.
3b8851 No.14500625
>>14499250
It was. He was replaced by George Newbern.
>>14500196
Sephiroth isn't above hunting Cloud, even if it's not related to most of his plans. He's specifically looking for revenge against Cloud in Advent Children, according to its scenario writer. Plus, their relationship is different in KH, since Sephiroth is some kind of darkness shadow that follows Cloud around, instead of his own person.
7459ef No.14500644
>>14500343
It's playing but doesn't know any boundaries or what is too rough. Hitting the cat like they did lets it know that was too much.
f009c3 No.14500645
>>14500196
Sephiroth is Cloud's inner darkness made manifest in the KHverse, or at least some being that thrives on him specifically. Cloud's also a combination of himself and Vincent as well since they wanted to put Vincent in but couldn't, which is why cloud can fuckin' fly and has a wing for some of his attacks.
f009c3 No.14500656
>>14500196
>>14500645
I mean look at this mothefucker for god's sake, he's compounded edge.
de414b No.14500780
I've never played Kingdom Hearts and I probably will never even bother with it. I liked Azel's encounters thought he was a pretty good boss because he was a character mirror.
c9eea4 No.14501038
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>>14499386
He's not even post game game content mate. Ishtaros and Nicchae are the ones you're looking for. One's just an Alma reskin albeit in a much smaller area and the other is only introduced on this difficulty so you haven't had the opportunity to learn her until now, after those two you've got Marbus who is comparatively a cake walk. All three in one go plus the in-between gauntlets and no checkpoints. If you've gotten this far already though this shouldn't be a problem for you.
d658de No.14501114
>>14498960
Look, I know it's cool to make fun of Undertale, but it is a fun little game when you play it. I beat it both pacifist and genocide and never picked it up again, fulfilled in what I did with it.
Sans was an interesting boss fight. Most games would be terrible if it had artificial difficulty like his fight has, but the fact that he's someone who lives outside of the normal rules of the game and the way to beat him is to go outside the rules of the universe and load save files and GIT GUD is an interesting little end to the game. The way he tries to manipulate you as a player by breaking his first pattern of speech and cutting off the intro dialogue early, like a player would is also interesting.
I'm not going to praise undertale for being the best game ever or anything like that, but what it does right, it does wright. It's an enjoyable experience, and a lot of games don't have that nowadays.
8fb120 No.14501118
This one was a long grind.
7a307a No.14501124
>>14498720
>Not the Watchdog
435a22 No.14501160
>>14499571
DMC4 is the best DMC game in terms of combat. Too bad it doesn't have the content to support the gameplay.
7d695f No.14501208
>>14498707
Nioh, all post-game two bosses fight missions, fuck you Nine-tailed fox and pretty boy Hideyori
172482 No.14501292
>>14501114
you just made yourself a pariah on /v/
d658de No.14501298
>>14501292
Just because I mention a game once, huh? Whatever. At least I'm not "tits between her dicks" guy.
ce3ff5 No.14501327
>>14501160
I always see this posted, but don't people realize DMC3 had a shitload of backtracking and reused levels as well? 4 isn't as special in this regard as people make it out to be.
87657e No.14501371
>>14501298
>At least I'm not "tits between her dicks" guy.
Unless you are him.
>>14501327
It was less obvious in 3, that and pretty much everyone knows the dev time for 4 got slashed.
90568e No.14501378
>>14501327
DMC1 and DMC3 both have reused area's but they're mixed up enough that you can tell the story is amping up for the final battle. In DMC1 the castle is reacting more and more to the underworld so the atmosphere is even heavier, and doors that you saw before have disappeared leading your down a path to what Mundus has planned for you, in DMC3 the Temen-Ni-Gru has now opened and areas have structurally changed due to it.
Their also still throwing New enemy Types and Bosses at you.
In DMC4 your literally just running backwards, and Blitz and the dogs are the only new encounters you get as Dante.
c9eea4 No.14501384
>>14501327
It's not quite the same. In DMC3's case that's got to do with Resident Evil style environments and key fuckery, when you do go back through the environments in the tail end of it they've shifted and changed a fair bit. DMC4 is just straight up going backwards through the game as Dante fighting the same bosses Nero did and it's very obviously an issue that arose from a tight development time.
a0f7f6 No.14501401
>>14501298
>tits between her dicks guy
>pariah
That's not how that works, sure he'll be laughed at if he ever mentions it but he's in no way a pariah if anything his own persona has become a part of /v/ to a lesser extent as compared to Mark's kikery.
90568e No.14501402
>>14501378
>Blitz and the dogs are the only new encounters you get as Dante
Wait I think Dante gets the Mega Scarecrow too but these enemies show up for Nero on high difficulties so I forget.
0fd819 No.14501803
a557b5 No.14501810
>>14500780
This too.
The fast punch and kick matches were great, and he being able to mirror Gene and do a lot more damage made him quite a challenge.
Unfortunately, he can be exploited with the drunken kung fu set of attacks.
421351 No.14501903
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>>14501803
He's pretty easy, actually. You can just keep hacking him as 9S while dodging the balls he throws out with that one chip that slows down time near projectiles. Only issue is if he decides to do that one-hit kill he usually does on low health, but if you just keep on hacking him you can kill him before he does that. I managed to kill him at a pretty low level because of that.
Vid related
92d04d No.14501925
>>14498841
Demi-Fiend, because I've beaten Satan before.
83cf75 No.14501945
>>14501903
I think he meant the one in the desert.
44e45b No.14501968
>>14498840
Healing items, yeah but I usually don't take Staminans to abuse Heats.
>>14499491
It was a pretty neat idea to give him a theme and then remix it for every game.
Alas, RIP Amon. You shouldn't have messed with Kenshiro.
>>14501327
DMC4 has a shitload of things that seem designed to be as anti-fun as possible like making orb hunting a rank requirement, that fuckin' dice game (even if you know the trick to roll exactly what you want) or enemies you can't style on or have some bullshit like wall-phasing. IMHO the Dante backtracking isn't even what's worse about it. Core gameplay is great but it won't amount to much when the level design and enemies aren't any fun.
Also surprised the Velvet fucks haven't been mentioned here. I'm doing a NG+ run of P5 atm. Gonna eventually try my luck with the twins.
d6d186 No.14501975
>>14501903
He means the original Emil.
a0f7f6 No.14501979
>>14501903
>He didn't fight the super duper secret boss
b11036 No.14502022
>>14501903
>He doesn't know about the other Emil fight that unlocks ending Y.
cee874 No.14502055
>>14501903
>2:13
>all of those corpses
Emil you fucking monster.
cee874 No.14502116
I've seen a lot of anons here talk about daimon but have any of you guys ever fought daimons second form where his chest turns into a jew?
It even comes with its own badass theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W_VST7pypA
f7a12e No.14502196
>>14499630
>Insults him for having a hard time with nunchuk man
>Goes on to reference the "matador is hard!" meme
Yeah, you sure showed him, faggot.
fc47bf No.14502290
>>14502116
Ur-Dragon was better I think. Besides his good theme music, Daimon was the most boring part of Dark Arisen. He was easy as fuck to defeat in both forms, even regular Drakes were better fights.
17a03c No.14502760
>>14500625
Original game as well. He got thrown off a cliff and nearly killed by someone who was just a rank and file soldier and not a SOLDIER when he was the best of the super human elite. He was a bit pissy about it, but it was an incredibly minor thing compared to everything else that motivated him. Advent Children was just unnecessary. The last battle, the stupid thing that was just a limit break and then its over, was supposed to be the grudge match that showed Cloud surpassed Sephiroth.
fe0172 No.14502797
>>14498707
It's not post-game, but the boss in Dungeons of Dredmor fucked me up unexpectedly.
>Had summoner/vampire build that carried me through all the levels ezpz
>Eventually make it to final boss
>he just fucks my shit right up
The entire game I was practically on autopilot but the boss didn't let up
b2ffd0 No.14502940
>>14500338
What? no that's entirely wrong. He was an NM, but he wasn't dragoon class until later. He was the end game superboss of FFXI until later stat bloat. It was supposed to be a challenge that relied on you somehow using 2 hours to lock out his 2 hours, but it… wasn't functional during it's notoriety.
SE even released a video about "how to beat it" but it was so grainy no one can tell what the intended way was. And it wasn't 18 hours please that's childs play. It was 78 hours by abusing summoners the first time and eventually worked down. It could've even gone longer but they hit a string of good luck against him full healing himself
90abd5 No.14503013
>>14498720
His safe spot was under his asshole, near his tail iirc. The big werewolves that you fight in the chalice dungeons were major pains in the ass, because they were fast as shit and had bullshit ranged attacks when they dashed and grabbed.
477990 No.14503078
>Lets have literally every other boss, even all the other humanoid ones be impossible to parry
>Now lets have the last boss be built around parrying a greatsword
3044a3 No.14503107
>>14503078
In the context of a duel its a cool idea, but the ease of which you can beat him undermines it.
ec4d2d No.14503131
>>14503078
>Built around
lol git gud, casul.
f51683 No.14503145
Would it be possible for Sora and Sephiroth to become friends? Or is Sephiroth more of a Riku kinda guy?
089724 No.14503184
>>14498707
>implying
You can pretty much Strike Raid him to death. Your I frames are crazy when using it so you can just wail on him. Its even the image for Strike Raid in KH1 on one of the wikis.
a8dfd3 No.14503223
>>14503145
Sephiroth is more of a "what the fuck am I doing here and why does this kid want to fight me?" kind of guy.
He shouldn't be anywhere without a purpose and he doesn't really have a purpose in KH.
>>14503184
>you can cheese him
disgraceful
058459 No.14503226
>>14501118
This one
It gets even worse when he survives a full burst and it gets his health to just a low enough level that he starts spamming one shot moves on your whole party.
…I'd actually put Gladiator Orion above him in terms of sheer bullshit, since at least Ophion doesn't spam a persistent fire aura that does an ungodly amount of damage and doesn't have a launch counter.
90abd5 No.14503263
>>14503145
Pre-Jenovah weirdo Sephiroth could be anyone's friend. Was it ever really explained why he went berserk right there? Yeah, he was made with parts from some space alien and he should have been pissed at Shinra for it, but I don't remember Jenovah really taking control of him. Having said that, it's been over a decade since I've played the game. I just remember him finding the lab and reading through some notes and then deciding that he's going to carry out Jenovah's mission and wipe out the planet. It was whatever when it first happened, but it doesn't make much sense looking back at it.
Ultimicia was some time witch that got stuck in a loop, so she was fucked either way. Kuja was created in a lab by Garlond to bring back life to his home world by assimilating another. Kuja was a tool that got replaced by Zidane, who eventually turned on his master before asking for forgiveness in the end. It's understandable that he was pissed. Yu-Yevon was once a summoner whose mind was lost long ago and he only knows to keep summoning. Sin is an extension of that and the armor of Yu-Yevon. They like fates lost their purpose long ago and were forced to continue long past the point that they should have been allowed to stop. Tidus was meant to break that chain and give them peace again. I don't think I ever finished 12 and I never bought 15.
Kefka just wanted to destroy everything, because he's a cunt. He didn't need a reason to do it. Sephiroth is the one out as he shouldn't even have a reason for destroying the planet. The only one in ff7 who wanted that from the get-go was Jenovah. The only thing that would make any sense is for Jenovah to have taken over Sephiroth somehow and then tried to do the same thing with Cloud. Of course, it's been over a decade since I've played, so I don't remember a lot of the details.
018d13 No.14503312
>>14499030
This hurts acutely to even read
b03380 No.14503369
>>14503263
>Sephiroth insanity
Most of this is actually covered by things outside of the original game but that's just how poorly the original was written. (Zack is only mentioned in exactly one cutscene and we move on?) In just FFVII in isolation, yes he just kind of goes crazy after releazing he's a mutant alien baby experiment, but then finds mental salvation that Jenovah is not in fact a monster but an Ancestor, and decides to destroy everything because Jenovah wanted him to because he believed it would bring salvation to the Ancestors with his newfound messiah complex.
Later materials covered the fact Sephiroth was raised from birth to be a soldier and thus pursued violence as a career for Shinra until he fought Eli from AVALANCHE and she was all like "why do you fight?" And this one basic question (along with his two friends Angeal and Genesis going AWOL earlier) causes Sephiroth to have an identity crisis before the Jenovah event. Then while he was there his friend Genesis goaded him on in the mansion later taunting him about being the result of a project to create the perfect monster. Then everything you've already seen happens.
b03380 No.14503373
>>14503263
I should also clarify that Sephiroth was unironically a very nice person before the Jenovah incident and thus the shock of having to consider himself a terrible monster is a bit more intense than you're thinking.
a8dfd3 No.14503404
He also respected professor Gast a great deal. His death probably wasn't an easy thing to deal with, must have happened when Sephiroth was a teenager.
d5d14d No.14503406
>>14503263
Sephiroth wanted to destroy the planet because he thought Jenovah was an Ancestor and thus he was the last Ancestor alive. After reading a couple books he thought he was the only one capable of stopping the Calamity, which he thought was Shinra (actually Jenovah) and kill all of mankind as revenge for his felt betrayal of the Ancestors.
a8dfd3 No.14503438
>>14503406
Then he was tossed into the lifestream by Cloud and realized he was actually the descendant of the thing that was trying to destroy the planet, and accepted it anyway.
b03380 No.14503463
>>14503438
Getting tossed into the lifestream didn't make him aware of that, Sephiroth was still going on about reclaiming the land for the Ancestors when the infiltration of Shinra HQ took place in the original.
2a7deb No.14503478
Nardacyon the Shadowless from Xenoblade Chronicles X is one of my favorites when it comes to designs but fighting him is a real pain even if you intent to use Cheese Build tactics.
>has over 6 Million HP
>very high Evasion and Accuracy
>Hits like a truck
>reflects certain attacks if you do manage to hit him
>nigga doubles his evasion and attack speed once he hits arround half HP
cee874 No.14503499
>>14503145
>>14503223
>Sephiroth is more of a "what the fuck am I doing here and why does this kid want to fight me?"
Nigger what are you talking about. He knew exactly why Sora wanted to fight him in 2 and in fact Sephiroth was going to beat Soras ass because he wanted his keyblade.
How could you forget about that?
>>14503478
>real pain
>especially after you learn how to infinite overdrive
After I learned how to do that and pretty much break the game, the rest of it became childsplay.
e633bd No.14503516
>postgame
Literally the dumbest fucking concept in video games. And that's saying quite a bit.
Superbosses belong at the end of the game, with special conditions to fight obvious, where triumph actually means something.
b03380 No.14503520
>>14503516
Would you prefer the term "post-story"?
f51683 No.14503524
>>14503516
Why do you hate secrets?
a1d993 No.14503531
Hardmode Turtle Dove was fun because Love eats your cheese for breakfast and the music was really really good.
8568f4 No.14503535
>>14498962
>tfw you build a boss so broken you force players into the cash shop
>tfw everyone's gotten cash shop gear so you can only make a new boss like the last one but it'd just be the same thing again
>tfw you killed your own game with your atrociously designed boss and greedy shop
e633bd No.14503539
>>14503524
Did you miss the "special conditions to fight" part? A secret final boss can be a secret. Hell, make a whole array or secret final bosses!
f51683 No.14503799
>>14503539
How would you hide the boss, if not in a secret post game area?
1f85a9 No.14503827
>>14503799
In any other area where completing the game isn't THE requirement?
f51683 No.14503850
6019c1 No.14503874
Hi!
Out of this entire Colosseum Challenge one enemy is programmed to flee your vision cone and try to stay behind you on one of the Timed Waves that if the timer manages to tick down all the way you instantly lose.
Enjoy retrying the entire challenge 30 waves in
Oh and we put them in ALL timed waves in the next game's final challenge bout
37303c No.14503878
The problem with secret bosses that come before some sort of postgame segment is the fact that these bosses are inevitably harder than the actual final boss, which makes any rewards from them entirely pointless and removes any feeling of challenge from the actual final boss.
f51683 No.14503889
>>14503878
But don't you like getting absolutely destroyed by some random enemy with zero backstory after defeating the big bad of the land?
f009c3 No.14503945
>>14503184
You can rely on that the whole fight, but you have to build that MP back up and so you'll have to attack him regularly anyway. I tried that shit when I fought him as a kid and got fucking stomped, even if you abuse invincibility frames, he's still a challange, and Strike Raid's not even the best option, if want to cheese the guy, you use Ars Arcanum or Ragnarok, depending on if you went Attack or Magic. It only reduces the time you have to fight him normally, and Elixers are best used when both HP and MP are low.
His Meteor/Ultima attack is where you use Strike Raid, so it's better to save it.
889512 No.14504001
>>14498707
From the stuff I played:
>Terra's sentiment KH2:FM
>Mysterious figure - BBS
>Crystalbugs - FF12
>Yiazmat - FF12
>Ares - GoW on the max difficulty
2de73f No.14504042
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The Abyssal God from Etrian Odyssey 3.
>1st phase starts as an easy fight where he rotates through elemental damage attacks in a set order and can be weakened by killing some tentacles found elsewhere in the labyrinth.
>2nd phase is where the real fun begins, he starts starts switching between 2 stances, a defensive stance where he takes next to no damage and throws out some nasty counters in response to certain damage types.
> then switches to an offensive stance which starts with him throwing out roughly 9 randomly targeted heavy hits that nullify any buffs you have.
> also has party wide attacks for every element and phys, each of these has it's own status effect that it will inflict if you get hit. To top it off, it has a single target attack that is a near guaranteed one shot for whomever it hits.
>Now all of it's actions are still done in a set order… until you drop it's hp to 75%, at this point it will immediately drop back to defense mode and gains a new healing move that heals 10000 ish hp and removes all status and debuffs from him.
> he can spam this new move as much as the rng wants him to while he is in defense form. He also no longer follows a pattern at this point, with his stance switches and attacks becoming more erratic as his hp drops.
I suppose I should also mention that every time he switches his stance, it removes debuffs. Though considering how his heal works makes me think that may have been unintentional
> 50 turns into the fight, he actually stops using his defense stance and goes pure offense.
All of this still hasn't stopped people from killing it with a single party member amusingly enough.
I would post the original Shogun ninja solo of it, but it seems to have been removed for whatever reason.
2de73f No.14504056
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>>14504042
Oh here it is, I guess youtube is just a dick to Japanese videos now.
a8dfd3 No.14504076
>>14503499
What's he even gonna do with the damn thing? What's his purpose for having it? I couldnt pay attention to anything in KH, honestly.
f51683 No.14504114
>>14504076
He probably wanted to kill Cloud with it.
6019c1 No.14504149
>>14504056
The algorithm for flagging videos actually has Japanese characters as objectionable content.
0807e0 No.14504199
>>14500338
The eventually revealed word of god "method" to beat him is to use player 2hour skills to counter and seal his own 2hours, but the timing is so ludicrously strict that it's basically impossible without addons which are against ToS. Also, it's a mechanic that is never alluded to, nor is it used anywhere else ever. It's just a shit boss and SE was salty as fuck that people were beating it without doing it "the intended way". For the record, the SE devs themselves do things against the ToS in their official clear so it's just them being assholes.
fc58b5 No.14504372
>>14503263
>Kefka just wanted to destroy everything, because he's a cunt.
while I don't disagree, he was the first genetically engineered magitek knight. the game tells you that the process fucked with his brain and made him crazy, but it's not like he could have become anything other than what he did in the end. Kefka lived, succeeded and died as a moustache-twirling, whooping madman.
Gehstal was more to blame because his brain or body never got fucked with, the guy was just an honest to goodness greedy war hawk who let kefka mince around gibbing people because it amused him.
cee874 No.14504482
>>14504076
You can do a lot with keyblade if you're creative enough with it.
Look at the recent KH3 gameplay, sora barely even uses it as a damn sword anymore.
97e0de No.14504497
i think the twewy post-game boss was challenging or something? i don't remember, i only remember being disappointed with his design
1fb113 No.14504570
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>>14499802
>>14499057
>>14499028
there already is a very good autistic rant about why BBS is dog shit.
1fb113 No.14504586
>>14500656
the one thing about those games that i just cant stand is how badly they butchered cloud.
f51683 No.14504589
>>14504586
It's just fine if you never played FF7.
b03380 No.14504722
>>14504586
>implying Cloud was ever good
You'll never understand how shit he is until you play the guy he stole his identity from.
a557b5 No.14504742
>>14504199
Again and again: never give money to Square-Enix. They are retards in love with their own shitty games to the point that they want to control the way a gamer plays them.
922a5d No.14504744
>Enchanted Arms
>Has like 2 side quests
>Getting the Moonlight Weapons (it's a FromSoft game)
>And getting to the Holy Beast Shrine
Holy Beast Shrine is where you can get most of the game's best Golems, including several crossover characters like the red mech from Murakumo: Renegade Mech Pursuit and motherfucking
US PRESIDENT MICHAEL WILSON, AKA METAL WOLF
Who you can add to your team
The final boss of the Holy Beast Shrine is Omega, a giant transforming Sphinx mech that can reduce the entire party to 1hp with a single attack and has Max hp and ep.
He will also join your team after you defeat him, though requiring the highest fabrication cost, at 999 mind, speed, and power gems.
a8dfd3 No.14504808
>>14504722
He didn't fucking steal anything from Zack.
Zack gave him the buster sword and told him to "go live" and his memories got fused with Zack's in the shinra basement tanks. Cloud is a fine character and probably stronger than Zack physically since he was able to defeat "the great" Sephiroth as a Shinra infantryman.
Cloud did nothing wrong. He got experimented on and it made him think he was his dead best friend for a while. That's a pretty shitty life.
f51683 No.14504828
>>14504808
>victim blaming
Go back to 4chan.
a8dfd3 No.14504837
>>14504828
Cloud's the victim.
f51683 No.14504842
>>14504837
Cloud is a whiny bastard. Sephiroth had it 10x worse than him, but you don't see him whining all over the place.
a8dfd3 No.14504854
>>14504842
Not gonna disagree there, but I didn't find Cloud to be all that whiny until spinoffs and advent children. If it wasn't for Advent Children, nobody would say Cloud is whiny or moapy. Kinda stupid and easily manipulated maybe, but not whiny.
47ecce No.14504857
>>14499303
>Single combo
>What are revenge values
Did you even play it?
f51683 No.14504861
>>14504854
Maybe you're right.
never actually played FF7, just Kingdom Hearts and watched Advent Children. Played a few other FF games though
a8dfd3 No.14504863
>>14504861
If you get a chance, you should play the PC version with the HD mods.
000000 No.14504864
>>14504854
>unemotional, stoic characters are now considered "whiny" or "mopey"
I guess it's true what they say. Men aren't allowed to express any emotions whatsoever. Not even the lack of emotion, apparently.
f51683 No.14504867
>>14504864
A man's job is to get the shit taken care of. Nobody cares about how much he struggles to do it, only whether he does or not.
000000 No.14504874
>>14504867
And Cloud Did save the world and defeat Sephiroth. His job was well taken care of. What's your point?
f51683 No.14504881
>>14504874
He was too emotional.
a8dfd3 No.14504883
As far as stupid goes, Zack wasn't really a brainiac either now that I think about it. They were both kinda stupid. Cloud was stupid and easily manipulated, Zack was just kinda dumb but had a good heart and wouldn't let a buddy die to save his own ass.
43f1c9 No.14504885
>>14503463
You're forgetting something. That wasn't even Sephiroth. It was JENOVA taking his form. Sephy is stuck in that massive materia bulb for the entirety of the game, excepting the flashback, until you arrive to fight him.
f51683 No.14504889
>>14504883
>Sephiroth there
You don't dress like that unless you're a bad kinda guy.
b03380 No.14504906
>>14504808
Cloud and Zack's memories didn't fuse in the tanks. Cloud got Mako poisoning while Zack was just fine. Mako poisoning caused people to either become super soldier, monsters or emotionless husks. Cloud became the later, in addition, he was also implanted with Sephiroth/Jenovah cells which also made him stronger but not useful as a husk. Then, when Zack died and told him to live mind broken Cloud takes his personality and memories from Zack, who also have him his iconic weapon. Now let's have a recap, Zack earned his strength through hard work and training under Angeal, made it into the First class of Shinra SOLDIERs as a runaway from home, projected Cloud from countless enemies, and was all around a nice guy. (Admittedly Zack also got Mako super powers from experiments even before the Nibelheim incident but he didn't became a mind broken bitch) Meanwhile, Cloud never made it past infantry on his own, got all of his not whiny birch depressed kid personality from Zack, only got powerful because of taking all of Zack's memories of training with the Buster Sword, involuntary experimentation, and getting implanted with Sephiroth sperm(cells). Cloud is a shit character that got everything he needed handed to him before his game even starts.
a8dfd3 No.14504907
>>14504885
>Sephy
don't do that.
It was Jenova manipulated by Sephiroth to take the form of a new body. This was the power he gained in the lifestream. Cloud kinda almost fucked the world by throwing him into the Nibelheim reactor, otherwise he would have just been a crazy guy in the mountains somewhere talking to a severed alien woman's head or maybe would have even died from the stab Cloud gave him with the buster sword. Cloud should have just let him walk out of there muttering to himself. I'd have taken Tifa out of there and saved her myself, but nooo, Zack had to tell Cloud to "finish him" and being the good buddy Cloud is, he couldn't not do what he thought was his dying buddy's last request.
000000 No.14504910
>>14504881
Perhaps when he was younger (when Zack died), but the emotional trauma and experiments left him unable to feel any emotions afterwards. Aeris died in his hands, and when it came time to give her an undersea burial, he silently showed no emotions as he dropped her in the water. Even in the events of Advent Children, at no point did he show an overwhelming amount of emotion. At most, just anger.
b03380 No.14504912
>>14504885
It was still Sephiroth controlling and thus talking through the Jenovah cells, it may have been a puppet but it's still Sephiroth talking through it.
a8dfd3 No.14504914
and he was pretty pissed off about having his mom killed by Sephiroth in the fire.
f51683 No.14504916
>>14504910
His weakness that he displayed so overtly was that he was unable to get angry.
b03380 No.14504919
>>14504854
Any of Cloud being upbeat and positive is taken directly from Zack. What future installments clarified was any positive traits that Cloud had were taken from Zack when he died along with his memories.
43f1c9 No.14504923
>>14504881
>let me tell you about the character even though I admitted 3 posts ago to never having played the game
Cloud's personality in FFVII begins as a disaffected burr-edged mercenary that is trying to get by while avoiding entanglement. As the game goes on you learn he's actually kind of a goofy autist who plays arcade games, is a hobbyist livestock breeder, racer, and gambler, and can be bullied by effete but Jojo-stacked bodybuilders into doing potentially homoerotic shit. He's a good-natured country hick who wasn't cut out for the city or military life, and he got proper fucked up when he tried to accommodate it. When pressed for a final speech of encouragement before going to the final showdown with Sephiroth, all he says is "Let's mosey."
He's a goofy kid that wasn't careful what he wished for. That's his story.
The first actual time we see Cloud acting out-of-character depressed is in Final Fantasy Tactics, where morale (Guts) was an actual stat that could be lowered with consequences. The first canon time we see it is in Advent Children, but the movie is literally about him getting over his guilt. That's the iconography of the wolf on his shoulder, and the wolf in his mindscape scenes, which eventually leaves him alone in the final shot where Zack and Aerith say goodbye.
It was a proper character arc. If we ever get an actual finale to FFVII's story, Cloud should be if not his old self, at least much improved.
f51683 No.14504929
>>14504923
A one dimensional character, then. I'll never understand why people can get so worked up over a stereotype, especially of some ignorant Southern boy.
43f1c9 No.14504930
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>>14504919
>didn't play Crisis Core either
43f1c9 No.14504935
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>>14504930
Video with the voice intact.
a8dfd3 No.14504937
>>14504916
Nah he got pretty fucking pissed when Sephiroth burned his mom alive, but that's pretty much the only time you see genuine cloud rage. He probably walked into her house to personally kill her too because why not? at that point. The door to the house is open when Zack gets there to check on the townspeople during the fire. I fully believe Sephiroth walked into Cloud's childhood home and gave his mom the long hard one, and I'm not talking about his johnson. But he might have done that too though. You probably don't get a lot of opportunities for women when you're in SOLDIER and Cloud's mom was probably still pretty.
b03380 No.14504938
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>>14504857
>he doesn't know
000000 No.14504944
>>14504916
Then how about the "there's not a thing I don't cherish" moment right before he unleashes hell on Sephiroth in AC? That was probably the most angry I've seen him, and even then, I wouldn't call him "emotional" because it seemed like mild anger at best.
The guy might've become emotionally impaired after Zack's death, but this largely manifests itself with him bottling up his emotions and keeping his distance from others. Not by being overemotional.
f51683 No.14504947
>>14504937
>Nah he got pretty fucking pissed when Sephiroth burned his mom alive
So we're talking Supernatural levels of character motivation.
a8dfd3 No.14504949
>>14504906
>Jenova cells
>Sperm
It'd probably be more like getting injected with some pussy cream.
43f1c9 No.14504950
>>14504929
Go play the game if you want to learn about his character. He has a lot of submotivations and other things going on. I'm just not going to spoonfeed you a 60 hour JRPG's entire character development.
f51683 No.14504954
>>14504950
>60 hours
I played Legend of Dragoon as a kid. 120 hours of quality. I'm not afraid.
>>14504944
If Cloud really cared, he'd stop with all the bullshit and just kill Septhiroth, get it over with.
43f1c9 No.14504959
>>14504906
The entire latter half of your paragraph is incorrect.
>>14504954
Then go play it.
b03380 No.14504960
>>14504949
Again they are Sephiroth/Jenovah cellsb turning him into a Sephiroth clone which AC revovles around.
92d04d No.14504961
>>14504954
You spent 120 fucking hours playing Legend of Dragoon? Were you a special needs child or do you not realize that all PS1 JRPGs blow?
f51683 No.14504971
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>>14504959
>>14504961
Listen to this song and tell me it's not a 120 hours game. Ya'll niggas didn't even collect stardust.
43f1c9 No.14504974
>>14504971
It's very pretty. It was also a shit game with less combat depth than Super Mario RPG.
f51683 No.14504978
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>>14504974
>combat depth
Now you fucked up. One of the big twists in this game was the addition system, where the player had to learn different combos for the different characters and press buttons precisely, which became more difficult with higher level combo attacks.
>inb4 QTEs
If it was, it was the grandpapadaddy to them. Also the story was fucking excellent, as was gameply.
43f1c9 No.14504981
>>14504978
I know about the system. I played the game. It was the first game I ever traded in.
a8dfd3 No.14504985
I liked LOD but I'm just gonna stay out of this one.
f51683 No.14504987
>>14504981
Then you are a fool. I'd love to play it again today but I'm missing disc 3.
4ec5df No.14504988
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>>14498923
>>14504938
>doing the fight the cheese route
Not as fun though. Doing lingering will regularly is much more satisfying and doing him quickly once you know what your doing is doubly satisfying.
43f1c9 No.14505005
>>14504985
There were things to like about it, but the gameplay wasn't one of them.
>>14504987
I'd send you my copy if I still had it.
35af41 No.14505028
>>14504742
This is every dev since patching became a thing. Good reason not to give money to any of them.
As far as bosses that fuck with player expectations, FFX had a few. One that heals itself, and if the player casts reflect on it, it will reflect the player and bounce the heal off of them. One that turns the party into zombies and uses cure spells to damage them, but also casts instant death spells so you need to stay undead.
f51683 No.14505031
>>14505005
Legend of Dragoon is hands down one of the best titles that ever graced the Playstation. Too bad you were busy playing Mario.
47ecce No.14505033
>>14504149
>It's not okay to Japanese
a8dfd3 No.14505035
>>14505005
It was certainly no Xenogears or Chrono Cross, those were JRPG battle system heaven.
f51683 No.14505045
>>14505035
I played both Xenogears and Chrono Cross and while they were superior in some areas, overall, Legend of Dragoon was the better game despite its flaws.
47ecce No.14505050
>>14504938
What is this fresh bullshit?
43f1c9 No.14505058
>>14505031
It the gameplay is bland, it doesn't matter how pretty it is. A glorified Timed Hits system does not a good game make. I'd rather play Jade Cocoon.
35af41 No.14505059
>>14504978
>addition system
aka QTEs.
47ecce No.14505069
>>14505058
>A glorified Timed Hits system does not a good game make.
Bullshit.
35af41 No.14505070
>>14505035
That battle system is one of the few that ruined playing a jrpg. You have 3 options that give the same result.
f51683 No.14505082
>>14505058
>bland gamplay
Nope. The worlds, the controls, the story, they were all fucking solid. I'll give you a brief summary if you need. But the gameplay was excellent. On the surface, the story was cliche, but it overcame it. Unlike the average JRPG where the goal is to kill god for whatever transgression, in Legend of the Dragoon you had no quarrel with God, only the system he'd left behind him. You don't fight God, you fight the system he built before becoming an absent god.
>>14505059
When you play Dragon's Dogma and you use one of your core skill combos, is that a QTE?
a8dfd3 No.14505089
>>14505070
Same result?
What if you try to go for a strong attack right off the bat and miss altogether?
a557b5 No.14505622
>>14505028
As a matter of fact, yes, it is better to never give money to any of them.
>>14504744
Michael Wilson should be the true video games mascot.
1f85a9 No.14505647
>>14503850
Why would you make it available only after completing the main events, you asswipe?
47ecce No.14507697
>>14505647
Becuase the optional challenge is greater than the final story challenge and may also reward you with things that can trivialize the final story challenge?
4111a5 No.14510446
>>14499297
KH2 was an inferior game generally but I've got to agree on that.
a1cd3b No.14510459
>>14503945
>Strike Raid's not even the best option
In KH1 Strike Raid is always the best option because it gives you 40 seconds of iframes.