/v/ - Video Games

Because the vast majority of games aren't worth buying.

>>14475121

I didn't understand a word.

>>14475129

If you consider game worth your time, time you spend to play it, time that is unique and will never be returned to you, how can you possibly not consider it worth money, a replenishable resource?

>>14475109

>small devs

Go look into Silverstring Media. Or at least lurk moar.

>>14475137

>hegre-art

At least I know it's not CP. Right?

>>14475139

You just dodge the question.

Small dev != good dev.

Indie game != good game.

I never implied such.

Because it makes sense in a free market. Development costs are socialised (others pay) while I get the the profits (the game). It would be irrational to give money when most of its use would benefit others.

because video games are a hivemind of the alt-right hence you would fund the alt-right.

>>14475146

>>hegre-art

>At least I know it's not CP. Right?

Those are even on youtube iirc

>>14475109

It really is hard to balance because both sides have good points. I buy games I know I like. But demos are few and far between. I rarely buy new these days. But buying used or second hand hardly "votes with my wallet" beyond sending the message "your shit isn't worth $60+ new". I hate scalpers who intentionally hold old, good shit just to raise prices. But I love playing on original hardware.

the idea of /v/ someday pirating some successful anon from the AGDG thread pre-pisses me off and it hasn't even happened yet

>>14475109

>Why is buying games considered bad thing on /v/?

Probably, they are just butthurt NEETs that can't buy games. :^)

Honestly, I didn't found any recent games worth to buy and my backlog is so damn big that I consider to write text file to handle this.

>>14475136

That logic doesn't follow. If anything, it endorses piracy as you're not being "double taxed" on your time.

>>14475109

>>14475139

I will expand on this a little bit since (((they))) already flooded any relevant data. Let us say that Silverstring got their fingers in every "small devs" pie in U.S. Basically, they are the Mafioso of the indie devs scene in the U.S.

Most /v/irgins here will avoid indies like a plague because their dosh will make its way up to those SJW and kikes. But they will give some mind to anything outside the States (save for many some nip games with more DLCs than there are PS4 games released in a single given year).

Others being the DRM like EAC which is basically a computer virus embedding itself (jury are still out on whether it is legal or not because no one raised enough ruckus for people to give a shit and reddit and steam keep fellating it 24/7) into your OS kernel and keylog and screencap your shit to the servers and it does not shut down even if you are not playing, other being denuvo which you can find out why most /v/irgin here will, given any chance, fly a plane into denuvo HQ and carpet bomb anything with immidiate 5km radius while they are at it.

tl;dr Kikes and SJW involvement and DRM.

>>14475136

Because games are electrons you download on your computer and cost nothing to replicate or distribute, so you should only buy when just.

>>14475137

When you should buy a game:

-When you like the game and know the developer will receive the money and it will support them.

When you shouldn't buy a game:

-Developer is defunct or otherwise corrupted from original vision or quality they once had.

-Scum publishers who will be receiving the money.

-When you don't know or like the game, play before you buy, especially since game demos are a rarity these days.

-(Optional) When no DRM-free version is provided and you as a paying customer are treated worse than a pirate who won't have to deal with it.

>>14475191

>-When you like the game and know the developer will receive the money and it will support them

This is what I am talking about, thank you.

I agree with entirety of your post except maybe electrons bit, since it's too cynical.

>>14475109

>why aren't you paying for our propaganda goyim

>why aren't you supporting your own genocide goyim

>why aren't you celebrating the destruction of your society and culture goyim

>>14475109

Why would I give money some numale hippie fuck when I can just play their game for free? I get to keep my money, and they come closer to having their mental circlejerk broken by poverty.

If you don't like jews you can justify being a cheap kike about anything

>>14475168

>be gainfully employed

>be well above median income

>still refuses to pay more than $20 for a game, and even then, prefers $10 or less

I am part Jewish, is that why I'm so thrifty?

>>14475210

>Need to post fast but reading too slow

>>14475275

So what games follow those standards?

>>14475275

>Therefore - if a game costs $60 then I demand 600 hours of fun.

>my standards aren't absurdly high

How many games do you even have more than 600 hours total on? Let alone 600 hours of you enjoying every last second?

I only buy Japanese games because I hate the west. I pray every night that I will be irradiated in my sleep.

Vidya should be free as in beer until I decide they are worthy of my money.

>>14475305

>notice how people aren't shitting up threads about AAA garbage

>>14475302

>Many, but I'm not telling which ones because it will cause a shitstorm.

I'm interested, surely it'll be some ulillillia-tier autism.

>>14475275

So pretty much only EDF and dorf fort?

>>14475109

>buy it to support him

>support him

You're treating a transaction like welfare. You're a fucking idiot based on just this.

Is this even true, there are many threads about current console gen exclusives where DRM is unbroken and nobody complains

>>14475317

>Subnautica

That doesn't follow your ruruus.

>>14475321

>>14475330

Factorio, Mius-Front, AoE II, EDF and Cold Waters are some of them

>>14475305

>Notice how most of those faggots aren't nearly shitting up threads like FFXV, MGS Survive or Bioshock.

They mainly shit on almost everything related to japanese games, with exception for generals.

>>14475109

I only buy games that I like and only when they sub 25 dollars. Know what pisses me off? Steam is a fucking stock market for video game software. Physical goods will depreciate in price very quickly, and their value will never return back to baseline. That just isn't true for digital content. For example, GTA V on Steam was released four years ago and it's still full fucking price. Why is that? It's because the publisher knows that they can artificially inflate the price of their product and people will buy it. Not only that, it pisses me off that there are "Gold" and "Deluxe" and "Complete" editions. So, they release the standard edition, which is just the baseline game without any DLC, for full fucking price, then release a "Deluxe" edition right next to it. The Deluxe edition comes with the season pass/various DLC items + the baseline game, but they sell it for 20 to 30 dollars more than the baseline price. Then, when the game starts getting older and demand starts to fluctuate, they can keep the "Deluxe" edition at a high price (above 60 dollars) and then reduce the price of the standard edition. So, the standard edition might be 20.00 dollars, but it doesn't come with the whole fucking game, so it's basically a trap to incentivize people who want the complete experience to purchase more. Not only that, but standalone DLC hardly ever goes on sale, so if you wait for the game to go on sale and later on decide you want the additional content, you may end up spending more than you would have if you just bought the "Gold/Deluxe/Complete" edition in the first place. It's bullshit.

>>14475136

>money is a replenishable resource

Time is money.

More often than not you're not actually supporting the creation of more good games, but funding bad follow-ups that seek to reach wider audiences you are not a part of, or subsidizing other unfortunate business decisions (DRM, supporting feminism, making console games, hiring a tranny CM, whatever). Maybe it takes a few games before it happens in the case of smaller developers, but they'll get there eventually. They'll thank you for your support as they cheerfully take a gigantic shit on your screen and call it the witcher 3.

Let normalfags pay enough to compensate developers if they must but don't fund the inevitable disappointing sequel any more than you have to.

>>14475364

You just by licenses on steam, not games.

>>14475358

If anything you'd cause a shitstorm of people laughing for how normal and liked these are.

For me it's simple?

Is the game fun (very subjective)?

Is the game heavily moddable (Doom and Quake comes to mind)?

Most importantly, does the game have replayability?

BONUS:If the game has a lot of hidden content in it

>>14475380

So do those licenses expire?

>>14475380

A physical copy of a game is licensed to you by the publisher in the same exact way that a digital copy is licensed. In other words, when you buy a physical copy, you are purchasing a license to use the game on its intended software and nothing more.

>b-but I have a physical copy that can be used forever!1!1!!!!1!

Nothing lasts forever; your disc can get scratched, it can be subject to disc rot, among other things. Do you think that the publisher, or the retailer, is going to provide you with a replacement copy in the event that your disc becomes damaged? Do believe that, because you purchased a physical copy, you are entitled to a replacement? No, because you purchased a "non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable, limited right license"

The point is that, aside from the distribution method, there are no differences between physical and digital copies in terms of the rights that you possess when using said software.

if 95% of games are bad then 95% of purchases just help fund more bad games

>>14475411

They can be revoked at any time for any reason, if someone in charge decides they want to. That's what makes them different from property you actually own. Currently you only see cheaters and the like whine about it happening, but who knows what the future holds.

>>14475275

Based

It is not only on /v/.

It is the right thing to do, in any place.

Anyone with a brain knows that it is pure stupidity to buy a product from an industry that hates it's own customers.

You support a small dev team today, and they grow to become greedy companies tomorrow.

Or they sell out to greedy corporations soon after they get a following.

Never buy anything from the video games industry, or any entertainment industry.

There are no friendly devs. All of them just want to take the places of the current greedy ones.

>>14475136

Because of the situation cited above.

Good product does not mean that the creator will be a good person that cares for the customer's interests forever, so it is best to never pay for their products.

>>14475152

Also, this.

Never pay for fun.

Have fun for free, always.

>>14475346

Whoops, forgot to mention that I got that game for 10 benis and spend 74 hours in it. You could squeeze the missing 26 with dicking around in the free mode and another play through in the hardcore mode.

>>14475452

Also this. I am not as balls to the walls as you.

>>14475109

Depends on the game and the DRM, one can see it as a waste of money and should be frowned on.

>>14475553

They could be faggots from 3rd world though.

You're right OP, even though THE NEETs here don't like it. I pirate everything and have paid for a handful of games in the last 10 years, but every one of them deserved it in one way or another. Like Dwarf Fortress. But fags here will put 200 hours into a game, all while saying it's shit, and calling anyone who likes it a shill.

>>14475553

You can pirate games on console, specially on Nintendo and Sony systems. The Vita, Wii, DS and 3DS are still alive with communities full of homebrew hackers who keep porting shit around.

>>14475109

You misunderstand, its not buying games that's bad, its buying games from garbage companies ,and/or shit vendors.

>>14475109

Point me to a game that doesn't have drm, player account creation, always online requirement, doesn't shove leftist ideology in my rectum and has the option for having dedicated servers that aren't controlled by the devs or their thought police sycophants and I might buy it from the bargain bin located at the village roast hyena shop.

I don't want to buy a service or a license that can be revoked at any time. I want a game which I then own, without all the extra baggage. Also DLC is shit

>>14475595

That's funny, because you sound like a kike who wants everything for free and thinks everyone else exists to provide free shit to you.

>>14475553

If anything, the more disposable income I have started getting as I get older, the less I spend, especially on vidya. If you can get something for free and without any troubles, why would you pay?

>>14475623

It seems in all these years you never learned to read. The point is that if you give money to good devs for good games, you get more good games. It's pretty simple. Why would anyone make a game to suit your tastes if they know you're not gonna buy it?

>>14475109

Paranoia about shills usually. /v/ also has shit taste. What else is new?

>>14475275

y-you're standars are absurdly high!

>>14475634

But the copy of the game is already out there, it's not a lost sale since I wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

>>14475645

>Paranoia

It's not paranoia if they're actually fucking shills.

>>14475634

Good devs will make good games regardless of if they get paid. Toady has been making DF for free for something like a decade now. The internet is crawling with games made and released for free. True artists will create regardless of if they are being paid or not.

A good dev can make bad games, and a bad dev can make good games, but at the end of the day they're entertainers and people will always entertain for free. Money only cheapens it. Go work in a factory or office and make games in your spare time. Or don't. Who cares. Someone else will.

>>14475603

>you sound like a kike who wants everything for free

that was the joke.

>>14475500 (checked)

I hope you don't actually believe I own that many games, but thanks to Emulation and just a huge library of old games the point is the same. We sorta hit peak market saturation years ago. It's probably why dev's resort to pushing hardware and graphics because its the only way to seem novel. But it's also the ever-growing number of older classic titles that make upgrading less an less attractive because why spend $200 to $500 on a new GPU or CPU when your old PC still can run everything but the latest garbage.

>>14475674

Nobody said it was a lost sale. I know how piracy works, but you're clearly illiterate. Again, the point is that if you like the game and want them to make make more games, more money helps them do that.

>>14475690

So game devs have a duty to make good games for you with zero compensation. Maybe that works in your communist utopia, but in real life people have to pay for bills, groceries, and rent. They can't afford to spend tons of time making quality games unless they're previously wealthy or supported by some other means. Sure some guys make their games on the weekend away from their shitty jobs, but they could make more games and better ones if they were paid for their work.

>>14475714

Don't change the subject anon. Nobody's talking about buying this year's CoD or FIFA, or being down with paying taxes for Latrina's 9th kid. The point is that if you like a dev and the shit they make, it's good to pay them so they can make more. But if you can't afford it then no big deal, just pirate and enjoy. They don't lose anything from that.

>>14475553

I have a DSLite and PSP that is full of pirated isos/roms.

Sole system where I've been buying games is the Vita due of how the hack doesnt appeal to me yet, and it's been mostly import stuff so far.

Doesnt help the market of physicals has its share of scalpers hunting "rare" prints

>>14475784

Don't tell me you're some struggling /agdg/ fag, you sure sound like it.

>>14475553

And consolefags are also poorfags because they can't shell out a couple grand for an Alienware™ Desktop Computer to attain the maximum enjoyment out of videogames.

>>14475791

>Doesnt help the market of physicals has its share of scalpers hunting "rare" prints

Fucking gamestop is trying to scalp now too, I walked into one after some years and I see they are selling LoZ on the nes for $40.

>>14475817

thats why you get banned if you criticize a nintendo game?

>>14475861

>don't even buy

Don't even play anon. Very different.

>>14475894

goalpost status: moved

>>14475903

nothing wrong with moving your goalpost

>>14475924

No, there is nothing wrong with it. This is just a shitty point made by people who are losing an argument.

Just shut the fuck up buy our shit

shut the fuck up OP, there are plenty of buyfags here, you bitching about it is what makes people not want to buyfag, if you want people to buyfag don't get in their face about it, some people will never buyfag and you just have to deal with it

t. buyfag

>>14475961

>there are plenty of buyfags here

speak for yourself, soygoy

>>14475137

>parameters to buy a game

-does it have lootboxes or game progress gated behind real-money RNG? do not buy

-is it made by EA? do not buy

-did i enjoy it when i pirated it? buy

-does it have a demo? consider buy

-does their dev have a good track record? consider buy

-does their dev virtue signal on twitter or spend more time discussing politics than their game? do not buy

-does their dev have a track record of patching things straight up out of the game, be they "too powerful" (battlefleet gothic), too "sexy" (skullgirls) or whatever? pirate

>>14475987

>>>/cuckchan/

buy games if you want to engage with the industry, pirate if you don't want to. not buying or pirating a game sends no message, and people who pirate to send a message are the dumbest fuckers alive and need to be gassed.

/v/ is full of NEETs and poorfags. It's the same reason why people here will complain that a modern game is unoptimized because it doesn't run on the 8800 Ultra that mommy bought them in high school.

>>14476154

>defending unoptimized games

You are the reason games are over 50 GB now

Has the free market been working well with video games? Does it work with video games?

>>>/biz/2856

>>14476393

no, physical media being so big is.

>>14477252

>uhhh why did you guys give an answer to ops question???????

At least sage if you are going to shitpost

>>14477263

Memes aren't answers kid

>>14477252

>mental gymnastics

I have a sedentary mind.

>>14477252

>you’re all wrong because my feelings are hurt

>now i win because i say so

>buying is good not buying is bad

>oy vey there’s no genocide

>>14477252

>digital wallet

Wait a second. People protecting here buying digital copies of games that are less yours than a pirate copy?

>>14477265

>posts a bunch of ebin mems

>wtf why are you posting memes????

I pirate games. If I enjoy a game and think its buying price is fair, I will then buy it.

>>14477252

>Just admit you can't be arsed to put money in a digital wallet and consider other things more valuable for your money.

No. I just hate buying anything online.

Also my internet connection doesn't handle bloated pieces of garbage called modern video games very well.

>>14475275

Good standards. I don't remember how much mount and blade warband costed, I just know I've gotten 270+ hours of fun out of it and replays never get old.

>>14477307

Don't buy it if it's not going to the publishers, although i might consider changing my views to get GOG installers directly from GOG so i can shamelessly share the goods.

>>14475109

It's because there's so many games that aren't worth buying at the price they are being sold for.

>>14475137

I'd tell you if i knew what would make me buy up a game, but I don't know much aside from a few general guidlines:

>under $20 unless it's Dominions

>on discount unless it's Ruiner

>be of a reasonably small filesize unless it's Vermintide or Payday 2

>>14475109

Because the state of the industry, even with small developers is devoid of my trust due to practices they've been ousted for in the past therefore I will pirate everything before giving them my money.

>dev makes a one of a kind game

Wonderful, I'll try it out when I pirate it. If I liked it and he clears suspicions, then I'll buy it no doubt. If I don't like it but it's at least well made then I'll at least buy it on a sale or at full price if it doesn't go on one. If it's half assed then he can go fuck himself, no other way around it.

>trying to talk about it on /v/ results in shitposting unless you provide pirated version

See: general mistrust of all devs as stated above. We'll only give it a shot if it results in us getting a fair judgement of it without the dev running off with our money.

>A lot of ideas and concepts are never realised because people that are interested in them just pirate games, and normalfags keep buying asscreed clones so they could buy more asscreed clones.

New ideas that matter are being experimented with and suggested within the small dev community, it being talked about instead of the next Gone Homo is the journalists' fault, of which there is much to refer to in culpability. You should know the difference between us and normalfags is that we give an actual fuck about video games, we care if we get kiked by devs, even small ones. The jew is everywhere, and our time and money is limited.

Entertainment products are a stopgap measure for the meaninglessness of modern life and sources of propaganda as well. They only charge for them to make it less obvious and influence people into forming livelihoods around them, which is apparent when you see how many fail to earn any profit but continue to be produced.

The actual reason for /v/ to actively encourage piracy, is because /v/ is a jaded lover, and does the only thing he can do to spite his unrequited love.

>>14475861

It is the industry's fault, and their problem. Not ours.

They started, we reacted.

And guess what? We can always get their products for free, in due time.

They are the ones forever fucked by their own stupidity.

>>14475925

And they still won't buy games.

They will spend money on something else instead.

As for whales themselves, they run for the next big thing that they can shove in the face of others to say "bought all of it", so they are a completely unstable crowd.

Companies that sell millions also lose millions with a simple move from some few whales to the next company.

>>14475943

>>14475961

No. We will get it for free.

>>14476140

Pirating has nothing to do with sending a message.

We pirate because it is the best solution for us.

>>14476154

And there is nothing that you can do to stop us.

Deal with it.

>>14477252

And stop getting video games for free at the expense of idiots working on this shitty industry?

Never.

>>14477805

True.

and another reason to never pay for video games.

Playing video games is a good thing.

Paying for video games is a mistake.

>>14477897

Corporate shill exposed and reported.

More and more people come here and more and more consumers are adopting our cynical view.

The industry is being shaped by us, and your company, whatever it is, will bow to it all or end. And there is nothing that you can do about it.

>>14475109

Buying games blindly is considered a bad thing on /v/.

Reviews are bought and paid for, screenshots and footage are bullshots, and with Aliens: Colonial Marines even playable demos are unindicative of a game's final quality (A:CM's demo having more polish than the final product at the same segment).

On top of that, DRM models such as Denuvo are actively pushing paying customers with rootkits and real time data checks slowing down the system while pirates are just waiting an extra day to get it free and clear.

The only way to be an informed consumer at this point is to pirate a game and purchase a copy if you like it.

>>14475109

There are many retarded anwer, jesus /v/ is this cuckchan, don't you even know why you don't buy most games?

Anyways here's a short answer: it's bad when you buy shit games, by buying shit games you give a green light to develop other shit games.

That's literally what happened with the industry and shit taste normalfags that ruined everything; you wallet is your vote

>>14478059

Kind of, though I think if /v/ had the spine to do something like that, they'd either be making their own games or cracking games themselves.

>>14475109

>some dev make one of a kind game

>buy it to support him and his idea

>trying to talk about it on /v/ results in shitposting unless you provide pirated version

Wow how booty blasted are you about making a bad thread you felt you had to say this? Did you toss and turn all night nursing your butt hurt because some Anons turned one of your shill threads into a doubles get?

Simple solution to not look like a fag, OP: buy games from devs you want to support but if you want to post a thread about it and not look like a bundle of stick post a magnet along with your pussy gushing over the game/dev. There, everyone's happy. You don't look like a shill, you get to support your pet devs and you get to talk about your game, though you're still gonna get a dose of shitposting because liking things/fun triggers some people's autism. If you can't handle shit posting, have you tried reddit?

>>14479012

Why make our own games, when getting games from greedy companies for free and keeping the good ones while giving nothing to soyboy devs is as much fun as playing the games themselves?

>>14479561

We have the money and the choice to buy.

And we chose not to buy, but get them for free instead.

And you can't do anything about it.

Still can't have our money, corporate soyboy.

But we can have all your games for free.

>>14479673

Individuals think differently, and thus, no single game will be lauded as good by everyone.

Here is not a hugbox.

As for supporting devs, how about no?

They will become the next greedy corporations when they have any support.

Eh, I will buy things as long as I consider them wortwhile and I think they are from an alright publisher.

I will never buy anything EA because that's like injecting nutritients into cancer cells to let them grow cancer.

Buy games you like to support

pirate games you don't want to support

that's all.

This is a shit thread and OP is retarded

>>14475136

So people who pay are actually double taxed for their time and money?

>>14475275

Nailed it. Amazing how people thing $60 is normal price for a game.

Because every fucking dev that seemed even somewhat good as been going around and fucking everything up lately for a bigger playerbase that doesn't fucking exist.

>>14492046

>Pirate new and recent game that is quite popular.

Ok

>Put 100+ hours into game have loads of fun.

And you lost me.

>>14475861

>one crowd leads political campaign against liked video games and attempts to remove similar games from the market

>the other crowd laughs at bad games failing despite insane money put into marketing

<durr they are the same

????

What is it with OP's making a thread, asking a retarded simple question and then taking the first post they agree with to any extent as the most basic truth and then leaving? Anybody else noticing this trend? It's almost like they just wanted to ask a question so they could make a thread and put as little effort into said thread as they could. I guess it's better than 1 and done shit but still.

>>14475136

>If you consider game worth your time, time you spend to play it, time that is unique and will never be returned to you, how can you possibly not consider it worth money, a replenishable resource?

Retard tier argument. Very often you figure out something is bad not at the very start but in the middle.

Then you realize you wasted your time and your time had no positive value to you at all.

But you cannot know this unless you buy or pirate. The only painless option is piracy.

>>14492366

Why should I send my money overseas?

>>14475109

>3 days ago

>still up

>>14475109

I buy most of my games. I buy them used. Not from gamestop, but independent stores. Only a handful of games I own are new.

>Nioh

>Bloodborne

>Dead Island

>Metro 2033 & Last Light

>Postal 1 & 2

>Garry's Mod and all other games that make it fun to play/mod.

Personally, my parameters for buying a game largely has to do whether or not it's fun, replayable, base game having a ton of content before buying DLC or includes it. I rarely buy DLC or any extra stuff. I don't play games that have devs or publishers that suck your wallet dry, especially F2P MMOs. SJW (heavy, don't care about lite) devs are a no go area, goes without saying.

>>14492046

Nice one, anon.

I will start to do this too.

Fuck devs.

>>14492426

Those are corporate suits gathering data. Nothing new.

That is the reason why you should always answer with the harsh truth, and never bow to their shills.

Games are pirated because we want it that way and the industry tried too many times to harm it's own consumers.

If companies don't like it, fuck them. They are nothing.

>>14492460

Add to that the fact that many games have pieces of shit as developers, that only reveal themselves as garbage after the game release.

Never knowing how a individual will turn out to be after he receives your money is reason enough to never give any money at all to him.

Case in point: >>14492757

>>14475302

>doesn't have the confidence to post his opinion on an anonymous forum

why are people on 8ch such massive shyfags?

It's not really bad. Moralfags just want to make it out to be some form of protest, when it's really just about getting free shit. That's the way I see it anyway. I'm getting free shit, I'm not downloading anything because I actually believe I can even make a dent in the video game industry.

Buying games is bad in the sense that even if you don't have a problem with the game or it's content. around 90% of the casual base will bitch.

games are not catered towards people who'll actually play them. the developers try to sell their product to flavour of the month people because they're the majority.

thats why most of the time you hear complaints about muh "toxic" not because these people are SJW's. but because they're pansies who take the internet too seriously.

this is why most games are dying because the casuals who openly poison the games online section just move from game to game and they get the attention while other players get kicked for "griefing" and "being too good at the game"

I'll buy a game when they start making good ones again, fuck you.

>>14475109

>Why is buying games considered bad thing on /v/?

It is?! Since when?!

>>14493433

>So did you sleep through all of 2017?

Good games? Which ones?

What are you gonna shill? The four generic open world RPGs that came out? The poorly executed soulless Rare-vivals?

Snake Pass was okay, and so was Cuphead, but that's about it. You speak as if 2017 was some sort of fucking golden year.

Post the last dev you supported

Reikon Games - Ruiner

you?

>>14493799

illwinter - Dom5

call it a meme game if you must, but it's the best at a very niche mix of 4x and wargames

>>14493339

The moralfag is a meme.

We get everything for free because it is the best option in an industry infested with subhumans that want to scam their own customers.

If this attitude is good only for us, it is the industry's problem, not ours. They created the need for this environment.

We spent, and the industry did not deliver.

Thus, now we just get everything without compensating them.

>>14493363

True.

As long as there is not a way to guarantee that Gamers won't be put on a pedestal by the companies, there is no reason to give money to those companies. If the consumer is not a king, them there shall be no profit at all.

>>14493799

Nippon Ichi. The first Disgaea, for PS2.

After that, i have been only pirating since then. Never paid for a single game since that one.

And i only get consoles via smuggling.

Two reasons:

1. The industry is refusing to adapt. We live in a world where you can buy a computer game for 20 bucks and it'll keep you entertained for 20 hours or more. Hell, FREE games can keep you entertained for 20 hours or more. The idea of charging 60 dollars for a 5 hour or so experience, usually with parts cut out of it and re-sold as DLC, is absurd. The industry needs to start cutting the fat way back if it wants to survive, or else really start earning that 60 dollar price tag with something you really can't get anywhere else. And considering the creatively bankrupt state of the AAA industry right now, the odds of that are low at best. It's simple supply and demand; the supply is high, so the value goes down. The demand is also high, but with digital distribution that is not really a big problem anymore.

2. Hey remember demos? Companies used to release them for free so that players could try games out before spending some of their hard-earned money on them! For some reason they don't do that anymore! Maybe it's because they don't have faith that their games will actually sell if you get to try them out before you've invested your money into them? Either way, I'm sure as hell not going to throw money at a game when I don't even know if it's going to be fun. You know why Undertale sold gangbusters? It wasn't the fucking art style, there's shitloads of pixelshit going around. It wasn't the marketing, because other than some people talking about it on the fucking Homestuck forums, there really wasn't any. It was because it had a really fucking good demo, that powerfully showcased the unique aspects of the game, and made a good impression on people. So they shared it, and the people they shared it with played it, and it got discussed and spread. THIS IS NOT A HARD CONCEPT TO UNDERSTAND. Bring back demos, for fuck's sake.

needs bump

I'm just strongly against paying money for anything. Pit and Ness are my video game heroes just because they eat food off the floor and out of the trash. This is why capitalism is great, it gives me a choice not to have something, and to not pay for it if I don't want to.

>>14505102

The best thing about capitalism is profiting and amounting money but almost never spending it (only spending in unavoidable emergencies), while getting everything else (sold by others) for free, denying them the chance to make a profit while still acquiring their products and services.

>>14475940

Anon, you can't reason with stupid.

>>14505175

so the trick to getting away with shilling is to provide a torrent?

>>14492601

>implying it wasn't curb stomped by the entire banking world because it worked too well

>>14475109

I just bought a game, it was crap. I wish I had pirated it.

You shouldn’t give money to communists. Incidentally, 99.9% of game devs are commies who deserve to burn.

>>14495239

>I have no problem paying €70 for a JRPG.

I hope you apply some form of standard to the shit you buy, because if you don't you really need to evaluate your mental condition.

>The whole "if you price it at €20 you will sell more copies" is actually untrue for non mainstream games.

Citation needed. And while you're at it, prove that they do better when they're priced higher.

>>14505520

I can't really consider it shilling if they provide their game for free by means of a torrent or the like. Shilling implies wanting to sell something.

I wouldn't mind if we had more devs that came here to talk about their game if they stopped trying to play underhanded games or hide the fact that they are actually the dev and want people here to take notice of their game. Even if you don't provide the game for free, as long as you want to discuss it and take feedback you're way above some underhanded shill just trying to blatantly sell things.

Because everybody here are communists.

>>14505655

This. /v/ has been overrun with /trannypol/ immigrants

>>14475109

>trying to talk about it on /v/ results in shitposting unless you provide pirated version

corporate shills shittin on small devs as usuall

happens everythime a good indie game comes out

>hurrdurr indie hippster shit

>hurrdurr OP is the dev shilling his game on /v/

>hurrdurr gotta go back to playing CoD AssCreed and Fifa

>>14505175

>>14505520

Those.

Always pirate.

>>14505585

All true.

And they MUST burn.

>>14505655

>>14505672

We are capitalists that get games for free because we can.

Still can't have our money, cucks.

But we can have all your games without paying you.

Stay mad.

>>14505733

Good or indie.

You can't have both.

>>14505636

Making person play your game IS a successful sale from the perspective of the creator.

It's not only from the perceptive of the corporation/jew that didn't produce the product in the first place and in it only for the money.

Though it's a semantic argument, and I agree with you that devs that are honest and passionate about their games should always be welcome and there will always be people that will buy their shit.

>>14505798

Yes we am.

>>14477607

Vermintide 2 also uses easy spyware instead of any other legitimate anti-cheat or none since it's a fucking PvE game

>>14505715

>wagecuck thinks he's better than everyone here because he's a wagecuck

lol

>>14505819

>Good or indie.

>You can't have both.

Found the (((shill)))

What is Divinity Original SIn

What is Kindom Come Deliverance

What is Shadowrun Hong Kong

What is Shovel Knight

What is Hollow Knight

and there are still many more

many of these, if not all, were on Kikestarter (Wich oftten gets shat on around here, and rightly so)

>>14505983

What are those?

All shit. That is what they are.

And sure, i am a shill advocating for complete piracy and no purchase at all. Makes sense, right?

Fuck off, cuck.

You won't have our money.

But we will get your games for free.

>>14506030

>All shit

only shit here is you taste and your shill level

>i am a shill advocating for complete piracy and no purchase at all

go right ahead, nobody is stopping you from supporting/boycoting the industry you love/hate

i'm a dirt poor spic niger with such a devaluated currency that one dollar is a fortune around here yet i still like to support devs who made stuff i like so they have incentive to make more of it, if you don't have enough foresight to financially suport the stuff you aproove of, then you are clearly the niggest one in this conversation

>>14475527

(you)

silly thread onegai

>>14475109

If you're going to spend money NEVER spend more than $20 on a game and you will never be disappointed. If the game is good of course

>>14475527

die

>>14475109

I've been playing vidya for 15 years on a PC and I've never had money to buy games until recently. So the games I bought in my life are;

Wow (for 25 bucks), FF14, FF15, ESO (got it for 10 bucks) and GTA 5 (got it for 20).

However, I'll lose my job in a week so back to pirating it is, thank God that 3ds emulator finally works.

>>14475109

Because of retarded PCucks forming a vocal minority and killing the industry.

>>14475275

I like how you always post this whenever a similar thread gets started.

>>14506120

You support an industry that is actively against you?

Yeah, you are indeed a beaner. A complete retard by birth.

>>14507626

Piracy is always justifiable.

The games are worth playing.

The devs, studios and companies aren't worth my money.

The industry started to go against it's own consumers, so we reacted.

It is their problem now.

We get everything for free, manipulate the marketing so it always looks shit and harm their profits, and never pay even if the devs are ok, for they will surely turn into the next greedy pieces of shit, and also most of them are already communist garbage, so they must not receive money even if they create a masterpiece.

>>14508658

Stay mad.

We will become a majority soon.

The industry said that "gamers are dead" right? We kill the industry instead. Their problem now.

>>14475109

I bought a game once and it was horribole. Never again.

>>14508963

*horrible

>>14475275

>1$ = 10 hours of fun

I guarantee you've paid a far worse ratio at some point for things like movies, toys, books, or amusement park admission. I don't believe you. And if you're telling the truth, then why is your standards only so high for vidya and nothing else?

>>14509044

>like Platinum Games, Ark System Works and Vanilla Ware

You could just say 'only Japanese devs' and you'd be just as good.

>some dev make one of a kind game

One of a kind does not mean good.

>>14509039

Not him, but i can explain for myself: we became aware of how all of those prices for other entertainment are scams. Just because something was done before, it does not mean that we must keep doing it forever.

We paid for those other forms of entertainment in a time when we did not have information about them.

Now, we know who makes them, and for what purpose, and that justifies not spending money on them anymore.

And if someone has a higher standard for just one type of entertainment, it is his choice. His money, his rules.

Companies try to scam us to get our money all the time. Now we are in an age where we know to avoid that, and we have the means to do so, AND still get the products (sometimes, even the services) without giving money to those that declared us their enemies.

>>14509044

The whole industry is corrupt and hates it's customers. It is not just the AAA companies.

As for your examples, one of them illustrate what i said: Arc System recently opened office in California, and in their official twitter, they praised Reset Era, the new den of communists. All companies eventually become the new greedy and anti-consumer ones, and you can bet that Arc Systems, along with the others, will do this.

No one in the industry deserves our money.

But their games are sometimes good, so it is ok to get them all without paying.

And you are talking about kikes? that is what they are. As for true americans (White Americans), those that aren't leftists are superior to your whole shitty race, as are all countries that are not shitholes like your beaner infested garbage dump.

Stay mad and poor, as your life is shit for who you are, you subhuman.

>>14510014

We will.

There is no better deal than getting products for free. more and more people are turning to pc because of all the PR fuck ups, as well as overall greediness of console companies.

You still can't have our money, corporate cuck.

And we will always get your products (and now, even services) for free.

There is nothing that you can do about it.

>>14510393

Here comes the corporate shill.

Enjoying your lack of profit?

I am a capitalist. I have plenty of disposable income. And i still don't buy games. I get them all for free.

Because i can, and you can't do anything about it.

Guess what? All games that i want, i get without paying, while amount money from my business and living a good life, while game companies never get to profit from me, but i get to have fun playing their games and owning them without paying them.

Stay mad.

>>14509039

Not him, but i can explain for myself: we became aware of how all of those prices for other entertainment are scams. Just because something was done before, it does not mean that we must keep doing it forever.

We paid for those other forms of entertainment in a time when we did not have information about them.

Now, we know who makes them, and for what purpose, and that justifies not spending money on them anymore.

And if someone has a higher standard for just one type of entertainment, it is his choice. His money, his rules.

Companies try to scam us to get our money all the time. Now we are in an age where we know to avoid that, and we have the means to do so, AND still get the products (sometimes, even the services) without giving money to those that declared us their enemies.

>>14509044

The whole industry is corrupt and hates it's customers. It is not just the AAA companies.

As for your examples, one of them illustrate what i said: Arc System recently opened office in California, and in their official twitter, they praised Reset Era, the new den of communists. All companies eventually become the new greedy and anti-consumer ones, and you can bet that Arc Systems, along with the others, will do this.

No one in the industry deserves our money.

But their games are sometimes good, so it is ok to get them all without paying.

And you are talking about kikes? What you said is what they are. As for true americans (White Americans), those that aren't leftists are superior to your whole shitty race, as are all countries that are not shitholes like your beaner infested garbage dump.

Stay mad and poor, as your life is shit for who you are, you subhuman.

>>14510014

We will.

There is no better deal than getting products for free. more and more people are turning to PC because of all the PR fuck ups, as well as overall greediness of console companies.

You still can't have our money, corporate cuck.

And we will always get your products (and now, even services) for free.

There is nothing that you can do about it.

>>14510393

Here comes the corporate shill.

Enjoying your lack of profit?

I am a capitalist. I have plenty of disposable income. And i still don't buy games. I get them all for free.

Because i can, and you can't do anything about it.

Guess what? All games that i want, i get without paying, while amount money from my business and living a good life, while game companies never get to profit from me, but i get to have fun playing their games and owning them without paying for them.

Stay mad.

The hoops that people will jump through to justify piracy under any and all circumstances is staggering. The dev might not be someone I'd enjoy spending time with, so I shouldn't compensate them for a service provided to me?

Just admit you don't give a fuck and want to keep your money. Fucking pathetic.

>>14494209

Well by that, the moralfag should be on your side then.if theyre not selling in good faith why should you?

>>14510901

It is not a matter of a moral thing.

It is just that we fully know that we are being scammed, so we steal from them instead.

Get everything that you want from the entertainment industry, without giving anything back.

>>14510868

They can still deceive you by putting only a small good part in the demo, while the majority of the game is shit, and then you buy it because you thought that small good part represented the overall quality of the game.

Never give money to the video games industry. Period.

>>14510897

A developer being a piece of shit (leftist, feminist, soyboy, shitskin, woman, etc) is reason enough to never give any money to it.

But if their products or services are good enough, it is ok to get (or to use) them for free, without compensating the piece of shit.

Yes, a developer being someone that i don't like DOES justify not paying them while still getting for free what they provide.

Stay mad, cuck.

You won't get our money.

But we will always get what you provide, without paying you, and still defaming you, your company and all of your products and services if you are someone that we don't like.

>>14475109

Because the industry is shit and should be left to rot.

>>14514778

>Fuck you, I want something good while compensating you nothing for the effort.

>Wow! How come no one makes good games anymore, this is bullshit!

Do you know how economy works, or are you one of those couch potato bolsheviks that is pissed off by the concept of things costing money?

Voting with your wallet only works if you selectively reward those who do well, the incentive for them being a monetary compensation. If you give them nothing then the whole thing will wither on the vine, or else they will switch their focus to people who do pay them, normalfag garbage eaters on mobile and Chinese antmen. Really, this mindset doesn’t encourage anything to get better, all it does is make things worse.

>Inb4 “we want the industry to collapse, retard.”

In that case go right ahead.

>>14524633

Yes, and?

In short, this: >>14524593

We do that because we can and we want it that way. It does not matter what is sacrificed in this. We already have plenty of old games to play for the rest of our lives. So if everything ends, we will still be satisfied.

We can demand, without delivering compensation, and still harm the industry when our demands aren't met.

What do you think that you can do about it, corporate cuck?

We can lie to the devs to our benefit, the same way that they lie to us.

We can promise whole lots of support, only to take everything from them and run away without paying.

We can do it whenever we feel like it, which is always.

And guess what? We are the only ones truly interested in video games. All other consumers are cattle that follow the fad of the moment, which now happens to be video games. This cattle will quickly flock to the next fad, taking down many of the devs, studios and companies that depend on them.

The only ones that will still be left interested in video games are us.

The whole industry tried to scam it's own customers for many years.

The industry is now paying the price for it.

If it destroys it completely, it is their problem. We don't care about them. Only about having our games.

If you are a dev, you are stuck with us forever.

And we don't give a fuck about you.

We only care to take whatever we can from you, and leave you rotting.

That is a good thing. For us.

And nothing will change that.

>>14524633

Your post reminds me of the whole "money pushes the mod community" shit gayben tried to push.

Also, I want the industry to collapse, you fucking shit eater. You calling it out doesn't make it less true or reasonable.

>>14524633

Like it or not, most of the time the money isn't going to a developer. The less games you buy from a publisher, the sooner the industry will go back to being good. Also leftykikes deserve no money.

There's nothing wrong with pirating games, but people who lose it because somebody bought a game not from Ubisoft or Bioshit or equally douchey company really baffle me. Even old games. Is it that hard to believe that some of us have little else to spend our money on than videogames? We're on a video board!

>>14526471

Having disposable income and nothing else to buy does not mean that you have to buy video games.

Keep your money.

Get used to never buying.

Soon, you will be free from the custom of buying on impulse.

Buy what you NEED.

What you WANT, get it for free.

>>14481983

>Why make our own games, when getting games from greedy companies for free and keeping the good ones while giving nothing to soyboy devs is as much fun as playing the games themselves?

I see the difference between pirating games and actually doing something harmful to the business simialr to the difference between jacking off on photos of someone and raping them.

>>14528230

Piss off.

>>14530024

>simialr to the difference between jacking off on photos of someone and raping them.

That's an interesting analogy.

>>14475109

Pretty much what >>14475129 said. Get to know your developers and resist the urge to pick up a game on day 1. Wait for unpaid sources to share their two cents on the product and, if you're still on the fence, give it a pirate. If you like it, support the devs by buying a copy. If you don't like it, shitpost about it on /v/.

>>14528230

>t.feminist "game" developer

>>14531228

>Even simpler: if you are going to buy, buy good japanese games. Pirate everything else.

This is the only good advice ITT.

>>14532975

>implying there aren't western games worth buying

Weebs need to die.

>>14536020

Name one from the last four years then. I'll wait.

>>14536020

I can't name a good western game that came out in the last 2 years.

>>14536020

There aren't good western games.

What will die is the western industry.

>>14540303

>western games were always shit because they didn't have my pantsu VNs UwU

But i agree that it's just the west what's going to die. When people say shit like 'the gaming industry is going to crash', they're really just boosting it's death on the west while japan carries on and regains control of it, as it should be.

>>14540407

This last time it was just a North American video games crash and it let to Nintendo being dominant. If it happened again with the same thing I'd be 100% happy. The slavs are still making good games too.

It's not. But supporting developers that practice shitty choices (microtransactions in full-priced games, cutting content to later sell as DLC, intentionally gimping their own looks or engine because "mods will fix it", etc) is a bad thing. There's games that should be supported, but there are also devs that should not if only on principle of that whole "let your wallet decide" thing.

>>14541676

The vidya crash almost killed the industry its not worth having that again.

>See small-ish dev you like succeed and get a modicum of money

>They immediately start cucking out and adding shit to appeal to soypeople

RIP CA and Paradox, I was once happy to give you my money.

>>14543992

>Paradox

This one hurts the most

>>14548860

SJWs only latch to what's popular at the given moment. They don't bitch about niche Japanese games for example that should logically according to their ideology have them fuming, unless an odd one accidentally comes to their attention.

>>14548866

That woman I just showed is Anita Sarkeesian, she has quite literally fucked every single guy in every indie circle who had the most influence. Then after fucking them used her pussy to promise sex if they do things her way, she's also fucked her way into a position where she can make dumb speeches to the UN with her friend Zoe Quinn the same woman who is directly connected to all this shit. My pciture is low quality so you can just barely make out Zoe Quinn but all that red is people she's directly connected with, and the other lines are alos direct connections but are not in her "friend's circle".

SJWs run fucking deep man.

>>14548916

>SJWs run fucking deep man.

I doubt they're that deep in. Her dad's a fucking arms dealer for the military industrial complex. Do you think any of those connections will matter when daddy isn't around and the money runs out?

>>14548941

> Do you think any of those connections will matter when daddy isn't around and the money runs out?

I wish that the idiot who posted that graph cap putted it in a higher resolution and reuploaded the full image before he disappeared, the names on that graph before it was scrambled is pretty much everyone who matters on the indie scene circa 2016. And that's just a fucking fragment of the original image which was in practical terms fucking huge, I am not speaking hyperbole when I say they are in every level of every single area in the vidya industry at large.

Anbita's section is even bigger then Zoe Quinn's since it's tied to various interest groups who fund her directly via proxies.

>>14548987

They're all artificially propped up by a failing industry and universally resented by their consumers. How long do systems like that last? They'll lose influence although slowly. It isn't easy to stay at the top, especially when you do nothing and have so much exposure for how corrupt you are.

>>14549005

>How long do systems like that last?

Pretty much for as long as they're funded.

>>14548996

Let me guess, you were torrenting with no proxy or VPN?

>>14549015

Yes because it takes literal days to dl a 4 gig game through such shit connections. You also have to pay money for a good VPN, so you may as well just buy the games. Nobody pirates so many games that a VPN actually pays itself off every single month

>>14548916

I know who she is and I knew how easy it is for particularly devious women to fuck their way into power and wealth if they just fuck the right men ever since college where I had one girl who used to work a six figure salary as a nightclub manager before age 19 without any management skills while also flying private jets due to dating one of the richest spoiled bachelors in my country. It's hilarious that normalfags believe in a just world hypothesis.

>>14549166

>It's hilarious that normalfags believe in a just world hypothesis.

If you spend enough time around normalfags you notice that they don't actually believe most of the shit that they say. Normalfags know damn well that the game is rigged, they just spout normalfag memes like "just b urself :^)" and "u can suckseed if u trie harder :^)". Normalfags live a day in day out struggle to fit in so they don't get shunned and lose access to whatever it is they want (pussy, shekels, attention, etc.). If any NEETs are listening: you really aren't missing much by staying in the basement.

I only really buy games I can see myself putting a shitload of time into (e.g. becoming a game I play regularly), or for the convenience of having access to updates. If I'd only play through something once or twice I don't bother unless it has a pretty generous sale on.

>>14549180

>implying I actually implied that

I wouldn't download games over a VPN even if I already had one for anonymity purposes.

the problem is you don't support the devs you like when you buy, you support the greedy publisher fucking them over which convinces them their methods worked

>>14549272

Oh they're absolutely all about appearances. This is why when you hear of lottery winners who may win over a million bucks but will still somehow burn through it in a few months because they find it inconceivable that they'd keep it wisely and get interest or something from it, they need to show off to the world that they be rich now. This is also why they're so obnoxious with their public displays of affection, so they can show off that they're not below Chad.

>>14549350

>This is also why they're so obnoxious with their public displays of affection

This is something I could never stand.

>>14475383

you realize 90% of "gamers" play call of battlefall right?

people IRL knowing about any of those titles are extremely rare

It really depends. Some game like Ace Attorney titles on the DS really needed to be bought instead of being victims (like many good games, gems or even AAA on the Nintendo DS, really) of piracy. Because of that we know how messy things got around 2010-2011 with AAI

There is absolutely no reason for anybody to purchase digital media when he could just as easily get it for free barring always online or multiplayer.

>>14551135

Just like how there is absolutely no reason for publishers to make good games when they can just appeal to the lowest denominator that probably doesn't even know piracy is a thing.

>>14549605

They won't do anything though, C&D letters are just hot air.

I'm a born communist but your western kind is annoying both online and in real life, so infantile. Have you ever done anything worthwhile to "the revolution"?

>>14548931

>which encourages time sinks like MobAs where everyone has +2k hours, which is funny considering how much everyone on here bitches about MobAs.

Are you just going to ignore the entire point of his post, faggot? He said fun.

>>14540395

"We just have to wait a bit longer for something good to come along."

And then, pirate it. There is no not a single valid reason to by video games.

As soon as the small, innovative studios get money, they try to become the next greedy corporations.

Stopping the medium is a good thing, when the fall is inevitable.

>>14540407

Exactly. The only ones allowed to make games must be the ones that at least let a "anything goes" market to be the norm, as the japanese do.

Western devs just want to control how Gamers play a game, or impose politics, or virtue signal.

>>14543979

It is. For the sole purpose of extinguishing shitty companies.

It is better to have nothing than to have shit.

>>14543992

This is the fate of any small studio that gets paid for their products in this industry.

They grow to become virtue signaling marxists and turn their studios into greedy corporations.

Never spend money on video games at all. Acquire games and anything related to them for free.

>>14548833

Which makes imperative to ruin all those devs.

When they started to pander to lowlifes is where their quality fell and it became useless to spend money on their products.

>>14548996

Always pirate. Never buy.

>>14549320

When you support the devs that you like they become the next greedy pieces of shit.

Buying games is the same as directly funding anti-consumer corporations at this point.

It is stupid to be a slave of "if i don't buy, my enemies will prosper", for in today's world, as soon as you support an "ally", he becomes your enemy and uses the money that you gave him to fuck you.

>>14549599

Where is the proof of those (fake) 90%?

>>14550872

Piracy is good for everyone but those in the industry, so it is ok. Nothing is "a victim" of piracy.

>>14551410

Which makes imperative to spread the practice of piracy to all.

>>14551879

If the fun does not last large amounts of time, it is never worth paying for it.

>>14551998

>if the fun doesn't last large amounts of time it isn't worth paying for it

Yet I'll bet you buy confectionery.

>>14552083

I don't buy almost anything that i want, anon.

I get.

>>14552139

And then, those responsible for what i like will turn into greedy corporatives.

This was proven time and time again, even in the japanese industry.

It is pretty much guaranteed in the western industry.

Never paying for games and getting all games for free is the better option.

>>14552145

If their next product sucks, have bad business practices or they have an official stance on a topic I don't like, I won't buy it. I've been buying the nep games on PC since they started coming out. So far so good. Even the rebirth trilogy was DRM free and had a GOG release.

Generally if I feel like I don't want to give money to X product/company then I probably shouldn't even be bothering with the game, as there's something out there that does appeal to me and is worth buying. This is why I very rarely pirate games and when I do it's out of curiosity rather than an actual desire to play it. I pirated FFXV recently (been months since my last pirate) and I regret it. 100GB of complete fucking garbage gameplay and abysmal performance. So why even bother?

>>14475109

I only buy games if the multiplayer is worth it. If the single player experience is the only thing good about the game, I don't think it deserves any money from me, because it is unlikely I will ever play it again, unless it is really replayable or has several endings, which makes it little more more worth than a renting, no matter how good the game actually is, because I will most likely delete it from my HD after I am done with it

>>14552235

Capitalism, anon, good content will get rewarded, shitty tacked on bs will die out withing months, if not weeks

I support this, we might get a gem or two out of this practice

>>14552392

>Implying I will ever play a game that has online that doesn't have an active community and fun gameplay

>>14552158

Because sometimes, even the worst of the greedy suits can produce a good game. So it is worth getting them for free.

But it is never worth paying for devoted devs from small studios that are guaranteed to become greedy suits later.

>>14553601

And that is why a push for the complete end of the industry is preferable than supporting it.

I'm not talking about getting the industry to improve or means to make things better.

I'm talking about them either giving (some of) us everything the way that we want it or face constant and increasing damage until everything ends for them.

And we will still have older games to play for our whole lives.

>>14556362

Pirates aren't one person.

Each have their own opinions.

Mine is: fuck the industry. Steal from them. Let them burn.

The thing is, soyboy, that i was a consumer in this industry. Then they shifted their focus on groups that I don't approve, therefore, i take any oportunity to ruin the industry.

The industry is made for us, no matter if those on the industry like it or not, and as soon as they turned their backs on us, it became ok to ruin them WHILE getting their products.

We want the products.

We get them.

And we still demand them to carve to us.

Yes.

Because we can.

As for normalfags, nothing that killing some won't solve.