d1455f No.14469260
Why haven't there been a similar treatment toward the Crash, SotC, and the upcoming FF7 remake?
a35fd3 No.14469265
Most people are of the opinion that the Crash and SOTC remakes were good, and are you fucking blind there’s been tons of people shitting on the FF7 remake
86d4c9 No.14469297
>>14469260
because the goym is stupid and will praise anything that has a label saying "new", "improved" or "now in ultra HD"
7403bc No.14469302
>>14469260
nobody liked the pc "port" of ct here
did you miss the threads bashing it, you newfag?
even steamfags are negative about it
0bcb33 No.14469307
Because the Crash and SotC remakes are serviceable and the FF7 one isn't even out.
50f9d0 No.14469329
>>14469302
That seemed to be one of the few times people bashed rereleases, but most of it was due to it being a "no effort" mobile port with a terrible interface. And, even then, the only thing people hate about the mobile port is the controls.
f2de9c No.14469330
SotC and Crash had updated graphics. SH collection was a straight port with HD slapped on the box.
There's no denying a bit more effort has gone into re-releases since the DMC, ZoE and SH HD collections. They all play more or less the same as their original counter-parts so really it's all about how shiny the new coat of paint is.
Surprised Crash wasn't released in 3 parts though.
d453dd No.14469429
>>14469260
Because back then atleast there were new actual games to be played.
bda69e No.14469451
Just wait until the next Crash game. It'll be a disaster.
8d3bdf No.14469457
What's wrong with the SotC remake?
742b3c No.14469464
>>14469260
>Crash
Didn't play, can't comment
>Chrono Trigger
Port, not a remake. Was bashed in fact, should still have mostly negative reviews on Steam.
>SoTC
Best version of the game. PS2 version runs like trash (and none of the nolstalgiafags seem to remember this), PS3 version controls like ass. The remake IS the best version in this case.
>FF7
Too little is known about it. Besides, many people voiced their worry about the iffy transition to 3D, the character designs, and the FF15-style combat when the trailer dropped. You'd have to be living under a rock to miss that blowback.
50f9d0 No.14469468
Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14469457
It destroys the art style of the original.
537fe9 No.14469491
>>14469468
I'm not seeing it
493be6 No.14469526
>>14469260
Because the Silent Hill HD Collection not only shat on the vision of the original devs, but also completely failed on a technical level.
>Game crashes
>Unbelievable slow downs
>Missing sound effects
>Wrong sound effects or sounds that play at the wrong speed
>Bad audio mixing
>Missing fog
<When they tried fixing the fog they fucked up the colour and made the fog blue
>"HD collection" but only includes two games out of possible 4
>Achievements at inappropriate times
<Achievements the crash the game
>Misplaced textures
>Replaced VAs
>Probably more shit I missed
Not only that, it wasn't even a "remake", it was a port and they fucked it up on so many levels.
8d3bdf No.14469529
>>14469468
The only difference i'm seeing is the lighting and colors being more vibrant, you even get filters if you want the original colors.
22f044 No.14469550
>>14469526
>Not only that, it wasn't even a "remake", it was a port and they fucked it up on so many levels.
It practically might as well be considering that the game was based on a prototype of the original games.
d5c9d3 No.14469570
>the last time the public openly bashed a remake?
Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire get slammed constantly
despite being about average for the series as a whole
7eaeb7 No.14469812
>>14469570
People struggle to realize that Pokemon, in fact, has long passed Gen 2 and will never go back to it.
161c6e No.14470365
>>14469526
Yeah so far the most well recieved remakes and remasters that don't actually change much is stuff like Turok which is basically on a whole new engine and you can make and edit your own levels. If they didn't fuckup the release schedule of the editor you'd hear about the game more.
3f104a No.14470392
>>14469260
hd collection wasn't a remake, it was a remaster
bda69e No.14470429
If a game "needs" a remake then it was never good to begin with.
7d1e7c No.14470442
>>14469260
Crash and SotC remakes are good you stupid fucking cunt. Fucking take a bath in acid.
0ae37b No.14470469
Plenty of people have called Ubisoft out on the Heroes 3 HD remaster.
28253c No.14470480
>reminding me that Silent Hill HD Collection exists
A curse upon your family for 1000 years.
c52605 No.14470526
4588e8 No.14470599
>>14469260
because consumerism is fashionable in this day and age.
Your Favorite Thing™: Buy It Again Edition is a thing to be celebrated.
8ce1de No.14470660
The SH HD Collection is an abomination and Konami shoud've been taken to court for such gross negligence.
f64e9d No.14472599
>>14469284
t. triggered ex neofag user
ba0ae0 No.14472860
Because those are remakes that favors Sony.
The Sonyggers and other cucks want to keep sucking Sony's corporate dick.
They have also been attacking Konami constantly, for Sony always wanted to get the hack from Metal Gear and pt him as their new marketing ploy to sell interactive movies.
>>14470599
Also, this.
104525 No.14472873
I fucking hate the SotC remake, its aesthetically devoid of everything that made the original so memorable. More doesn't always equal better, cluttering the screen with garbage won't make it a superior title to the original. Is it that hard to understand?
79468f No.14472883
>>14469260
It was that bad. Even the ZOE one got patched.
5d42bd No.14472891
>>14469468
They really fucked up the character model. One fucking job, guys.
bba8ba No.14472931
>>14469457
not very much. only thing I don't think has been addressed is how wander no longer gets slowly corrupted. I don't know if this was intentional or not, and I haven't heard any comment on it. Otherwise it plays better, and the actual tech side of things, the fact that it's a game which runs on two engines simultaneously is pretty interesting to think about. No wonder it felt like the core game just smoother, it's literally got the same underlying logic powering things.
711125 No.14472936
>>14469260
Rosseter's a faggot
799b35 No.14472937
>>14469260
The HD Collection isn't a remake though it's a remaster the same as the MGS HD collection.
The problem was that the devs were using a BETA source code of the original game and basically were retards
1fb29b No.14472975
Because no remake has ever come close to being as bad you fucking retard,
419a54 No.14473060
>>14470442
>Crash and SotC remakes are good you stupid fucking cunt. Fucking take a bath in acid.
This is a Sonygger's defense of enjoying the same shit with a new paint job while owning a No Games Station, and fuck off you retard, they aren't flawless.
d1455f No.14476301
>>14473060
Honestly, fuck anyone who defends Sony.
bba8ba No.14476336
>>14473060
>they aren't flawless.
this is how they shift the goalposts. recognize these kind of mouthbreathing retards for the retards they are.
bda69e No.14476378
>>14472873
Funny how the original had a more old film look than their hundreds of millions of dollar cinematic trash with grain filters.
e2db70 No.14477881
Let me guess, you're the one fag who enjoyed Silent Hill HD and want to take revenge on all remakes on principle now because you got your feels hurt by the backlash to it.
>why dont you guys hate x like you hated y?!
Jesus christ, son, get over it.
4842c9 No.14481223
>>14473060
>same shit with a new paint job
Isn't that just what most people want out of a remake?
d1455f No.14482339
>>14481223
Last I remember, the only "good" remakes in gaming were stuff like Tomb Raider Anniversary and REmake because what they did was that they took the original game and updated the mechanics and graphics to "suit modern day" as well as add-on to the game. However, to contrast, Crash and SotC are pretty much "built from the ground up 'remasters'", and the FFVII Remake" is a remake in the sense that they are remaking the story for a completely different game (Sort of like Play Novel: Silent Hill or Xenosaga I·II'')
162262 No.14482548
>>14469260
>Thinking FF7 is art
I like Best Guy but god damn…that's retarded…
d0cd8f No.14482607
ba0ae0 No.14483760
>>14476301
This.
Sony's owners, along with their defense force, must be killed.
af21ee No.14483776
>that Chrono Trigger screenshot
>We have a game with beautiful 16-bit spritework based on character designs by a legendary manga artist
>We already made a re-release of this game several years ago that revamped the interface for a modern console while conforming with the rest of the graphics
>heck it was even easy because we just remixed existing assets!
<better fire up those powerpoint slides fam! 16 point arial ba-bam!
<what's that? the original art was fine unmolested? LOL fire up those filters
Only the company that spent a decade making FF15 could do something so atrocious
bc6dbe No.14483952
>>14469260
Because Konami fumbled with the source code for SH2 and 3 meaning Bluepoint had to work from scratch to reverse-engineer the games. Because most remakes are just 'HD grafix' re-releases and that's that. Because they didn't try to force new voice acting by anime dub-tier VAs like Troy Baker and Mary Elizabeth McGlynn because Konami are greedy kikes. Because most HD remakes actually work and are playable. Because most HD remakes didn't have Tomm "I love Silent Hill more than you do" Hulett on board. Because most HD remakes didn't have Hulett try and change the script in his own image. Because the HD collection hasn't been properly fixed to this day. Because it's an afront to God how fucking bad the HD collection is when the originals are just that good, especially for the hardware they run on. Beyond needing to buy a game again for HD grafix there's usually little to complain about because it's the exact same game with new grafix, but SH HD collection is fucked on a fundamental level because of shitty development.
7a9f96 No.14484011
>>14470480
what… is he doing there
:)
71c344 No.14484108
>>14469260
>third image
even the boss is flabbergasted by the kind of ungodly abomination he's been put in
70b228 No.14484123
>>14469260
>that screenshot
d0cd8f No.14484128
>>14483952
Bluepoint didn't work on SH HD Collection, Hijinx did. The sourcecode of the final build was lost, so Hijinx had to port using beta versions. Bluepoint, on the other hand, doesn't even need the sourcecode to port games - their MGS HD releases were reverse-engineered straight from retail PS2/PSP copies. Why Konami didn't just get Bluepoint to handle SH is anyone's guess.
4d9154 No.14484133
Some remakes are acceptable and some aren't.
d7ab93 No.14484139
>>14484138
ALSO FUCK THE VOICE ACTOR CABAL
04d953 No.14484157
>>14484138
This image (first row, far right) :
which is which?
70b228 No.14484158
>>14484139
If it's any consolation, the company probably went defunct after the Silent Hill remaster. I can't find anything they've done in the six years since then.
043798 No.14484166
>>14470442
>(1)
>thumbnail
>>14470456
Today I will remind them
>>14470599
>>14476301
WHIRRRRRRRRR
>>14484133
Is this one good or going to be good? I haven't kept up at all.
ba0ae0 No.14484167
>>14484139
Voice actors (especially the female ones) in America are nothing but a "mafia" at this point.
They don't work because they are good or necessary. They force industries to keep hiring them, and they attack those that don't comply.
Make sure to always complain directly to the publishers and developers and to boycott games that hire those subhumans.
It is better to have no voice at all than to have a mob of incompetent pieces of shit forcing themselves onto everything.
7669a5 No.14484170
>>14469260
>third image
It looks like a fucking flash game. Like some guy just stole the sprites and made his own game with them.
>>14484133
This has pleasant visuals at least. But I heard it was shit.
5a4bea No.14484181
>>14484138
>SH2's voice acting is shit
That one always gets me. SH2's voice acting is raw in the sense that it was very human. And the people gave really strong preformances, especially the VA's for James and Maria/Marie. The rerecorded lines sound like their acting as opposed to sound natural to the scene. I dont doubt Troy Baker and his abiloty to be in a million roles but I feel this was more a fault of the direction.
80ee90 No.14484183
>>14469260
A port is not a remake you fucking idiot.
fa227e No.14484186
>>14484167
Remember the time the dub VA for Nightmare came on here and lost his shit?
9d0305 No.14484208
>>14469260
At least I haven't heard much prai-
<reads thread comments
I hope I'm being baited. Remakes are even worse than rehashes. Rereleases, even scummy digital rereleases (when really a game or any media should be public after a point in time so we can share it digitally) are less dishonest as long as they don't charge out the ass because at least there's some minor effort to keep nostalgia fags happy without having to resort to dealing with shitty scalpers and gougers. (I understand they're not going to eat the cost of rereleasing a game and are out for profit, but really, the selfish cunts avoid rereleases and dmca everything so that consumers will settle for shitty modern games)
I mean, Crash Trilogy didn't even have the same solid gameplay. What a steaming turd.
d7ab93 No.14484225
>>14484157
Right is the original, left is remaster. They removed the fucking fog so hard it shows the edge of the map.
37a9ff No.14484233
>>14484181
That letter reading at the end, though. Christ that gets me.
e2913b No.14484268
>>14470365
Bought the remasters of the two games in a promotion, I only played the first one back on N64 and the remaster was basically just what the doctor ordered. It was Turok, working fine on PC with actual draw distance.
Can't comment on the improvements 2's remastered did, but holy shit was I blown away by how much of an improvement 2 was, as a game. Technologically, game and level design wise, music, artstyle, it all blows Turok 1 out of the goddamn water. If all sequels were such improvements, we'd be playing full-immersion VR MMOs by now.
bda69e No.14484360
>>14484268
The developers were dissolved not long after Turok 2 and went on to make Metroid Prime. This isn't even a joke.
bba8ba No.14484396
>>14484268
why do people pretend turok 1 or 2 are good games now, are you that deprived?
bba8ba No.14484403
>>14484360
two different teams. origin was bought out by EA shortly after and the staff at origin who worked on system shock went to join iguana. after rage wars and turok 3 (the only good turok), the team that worked on turok 3 joined retro and ended up working on metroid prime.
b55f39 No.14484464
>>14484181
Well, the thing is that (perhaps as a saving maneuver), the actors for the voices were also the mocap actors for each character. They would act the motions for a scene and talk simultaneously. It really works out well, because the movements come naturally while speaking. It's not just 'standing in the sound room and talking'.
Funny thing is that Guy Cihi (James) wasn't even planning to be the VA/MA - he just took his daughter to the audition (for Laura iirc) and ended up auditioning himself as well
God, fuck that Fungo stream where he kept talking over Cihi's interesting tidbits
>>14484233
Same here. Monica Taylor said in interviews that it was pretty hard to record because she was also being brought to tears.
But it's not just the acting, but the script itself is really solid - SH2 really stepped up the translation aspects. Just years before it we had the stilted, weird SH1 dialog.
Jeremy Blaustein was the main guy behind the translation, having also worked in MGS1. Back when Konami cared about production values…
80eebc No.14484519
>>14469260
When did it become fashionable to confuse the word port and remake on /v/ I swear more and more every single day there is an increasing number of people here who have no fucking idea what they are talking about. They just say shit without any actual thought put into it and what's worse no one calls them out on it.
But to answer your question my dude, there was public backlash against the silent hill HD ports because they were horribly broken. Not because they were ports. Most non-autistic people don't have a problem with HD ports.
The only console that has any business getting them is the switch though. No one bought the Wii U, and it didn't get many ps3/360 games.
d0cd8f No.14484629
>>14484464
>God, fuck that Fungo stream where he kept talking over Cihi's interesting tidbits
Webm related was hilarious - Fungo accidentally confirmed everything Twin Perfect was saying about him.
sage for offtopic
8ce1de No.14485913
>>14484629
TP got rekt because of this chick and Fungo's not even dating her anymore.
8ce1de No.14485917
The SH HD collection was straight up sabotage by Konami. Fuck those nip kikes!
e2913b No.14485948
>>14484396
1 is pretty shit nowadays but your opinion is worthless if you don't like 2.
116290 No.14485968
>>14481223
Pretty much. But don't try and explain that to console war kiddies.
b9c3b7 No.14486049
>>14484464
>Well, the thing is that (perhaps as a saving maneuver), the actors for the voices were also the mocap actors for each character. They would act the motions for a scene and talk simultaneously.
Just one detail. They do act the motions and talk simultaneously, but the lines aren't recording during mocap, they're recorded right afterwards in a recording booth. That way they can still "retain" the feel of the scene while recording in a high quality audio environment
150469 No.14486505
>>14469260
>FF7 remake?
That gets bashed regularly and with good reason.
144a49 No.14486510
>>14484138
>FUCK TOMM HULLET
and fuck the whole "Silent Hill is a therapist town" shtick that he (and SH theoryfags) constantly espoused
SILENT HILL IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THE FUCKING CULT
20a746 No.14486754
>>14486505
>good reason
Why we don't even know what the fuck it is anymore. I'm not saying it's going to be good, this is modern square we are talking about. However they threw out everything Cyber Connect did and re-started the game and have not shown a single thing since then.
>>14484629
I never really knew what happened with Fungo and TP since I didn't know about them until well after he left. Can anyone give me a quick rundown?
b55f39 No.14486949
>>14486049
Yep, you're right. Just checked a Cihi interview a few hours ago and that's exactly what he stated.
He even found a small clip his wife filmed during production and uploaded it somewhat recently. It's the mocap session of the reveal in the hotel room, with Laura.
The mocap session does have the voicing, but the final dialog in game sounds slightly different since it's another take, as you said.
Same method was used on SH3 with the actors, and it really does give a quality boost to the overall production. Most vidya VA work nowadays is 'eh' at best… Nier 1 was one of the very few games of 7th gen that really stood out for me on that front.