8b7784 No.14432986
Weeb boogaloo.
Last time on huge ass games we had Hollow Knight and some strategy games.
Today I want to mention Nioh, which still has its own thread at >>14358166
Basically post in this thread games that you thought would be much smaller, but are actually fucking huge and long.
And by huge I don't mean vast open world with nothing in it like Dynasty Warriors 9 or GTA5, but games with actual shitload of content that you have to play 3 times longer than expected to just finish.
58753b No.14432995
Just longer than expected? Cause in that case Nier.
a8c334 No.14433000
kinda thought route B was going to be just a new game + sort of deal with a few more story bits kinda like how the other games had you replaying from others perspectives with a few new clips and things here and there. Then I completed it and saw I had 10 hours of entirely new content and the game flat out says you only just completed the prologue and the entire game world subsequently changes.
8b7784 No.14433029
>>14432993
I never played any thief games
>>14432995
That shit definitely counts.
>>14433000 (checked)
Well I played the first Nier so I expected tomato to be long.
febf52 No.14433039
>>14433029
>I never played any thief games
Play it right now, you won't regret it.
4191af No.14433045
Bloodborne is taking way longer than I expected. Although I don't think the actual gameworld is all that large.
I think the reason I expected it to be so short is that I had forgotten about the optional areas in DS and DeS and only remembered the bare minimum of areas required.
8b7784 No.14433052
>>14433039
I hate stealth in general.
Can you play it non-stealthy? I assume not.
c78d65 No.14433071
The first disc is as long as the entirety of most JRPGs.
7b19e3 No.14433090
>>14433052
thief 1 isn't even a stealth game iirc
1b1e6b No.14433092
>2 games in one
>different party member commitments in each one
>casino minigames better than most dedicated casino vidya
Absolutely undisputed replay value in the series. Hundreds of hours in and I'm still having a blast. They don't make them like they used to.
a8c334 No.14433093
>>14433090
it is, don't lie.
>>14433052
yeah but it's not fun and you'll be missing content because you'll be on easy.
7b19e3 No.14433100
Also pic related
I thought it would end on 3 occasions before it actually did (the first one admittedly being waaaay too short and I was a bit pissed until I found out there was more)
I consider it a masterpiece and played it 6 times in a row which is exceptionally rare for me to do for singleplayer games. The game knows how to do different difficulty modes correctly.
>a new difficulty mode unlocked after you beat it
>basically an entirely new perspective on the story
>another difficulty mode unlocked after that one
>includes the ability to get all secret chapters and unlock the true ending after being able to experience it in its entirety
perfection
93c1c6 No.14433132
>>14433092
It’s shit, unfortunately. Dungeon designs are a mess of bullshit. Encounter rate is trash. All of your team members are unlikable as fuck save for Nanjo and Yukino. Persona 2 is where the series peaked and it’s a wonder how Persona even went on with how garbage the first game was.
1c4a05 No.14433149
>>14433132
The encounter rate's not that high, and while I'll agree 2 is where the writing peaked, 1 definitely had the better combat.
392a58 No.14433159
Hollow Knight isn't that long, you can beat it in under 3h easily if you know what's up
1b1e6b No.14433170
>>14433132
OK son, I'll bite the bait.
>Dungeon designs are a mess of bullshit.
They are far better than P2's dungeons if you can even call them that.
>Encounter rate is trash.
No different from P2's encounter rate.
>>14433132
>All of your team members are unlikable as fuck save for Nanjo and Yukino.
They are all top-tier characters.
You've clearly made little to no effort to actually play the game, or just have incredibly pleb taste.
8b7784 No.14433203
>>14433159
And you can beat SOTN in under 20 minutes.
392a58 No.14433209
>>14433203
And I can beat it to your mom in under 20 seconds
1b1e6b No.14433215
>>14433209
That's actually kind of sad.
8b7784 No.14433233
>>14433209
That's not something you should boast about.
392a58 No.14433236
39cc6d No.14433240
>>14433052
>I hate stealth in general.
Thieves stealth is different than pretty much the entire genre, in that you can fucking sprint around 95% of the time and only have to be slow/assess a situation in a few areas.
>>14433093
Only half the levels in Thief 1 are stealth. The other half are tomb raiding I include the Haunted Cathedral levels in this. It's also the best in the series because of this
7b19e3 No.14433280
>>14433236
>>14433209
best kind of poster on /v/ tbh
521080 No.14433320
>>14433071
and then you get to disc 2
5282f6 No.14433521
>>14433039
Seeing as it's a (((Western))) developed game, I highly doubt that.
5282f6 No.14433536
>>14433092
>2 games in one
What the fuck? Is it different than the original release, because I don't remember that shit being there, then again, I only played the (((localized))) psx version long ass time ago where they made the guy with the hat into a Kang n shiiiet.
cb8bc4 No.14433552
>but games with actual shitload of content that you have to play 3 times longer than expected to just finish.
>Three characaters who all play differently, from a standard Adol-like character to really easy top down shooter-ish character to a character who zips and slides all over the place and makes you feel like you're playing through a cutscene
>each of the three get different abilities, bosses and stories
>final character gets the final true boss ish kind of thing
>you also get an arena challenge level where you can get points to buy EX versions of the three characters, which change small things about them
I truly enjoy these post game challenge modes. In fact the only reason why I hold the arkham games in high regard is that they have them and it's not that halfassed.
>>14433521
Go play it you memelord.
ae1225 No.14433608
>>14433536
Oh man, you have no idea. You didn't deserve that suffering. Yes, the game has a "Snow Queen Quest" route that was entirely locked out of the PlayStation localization. Worse yet, the localization fundamentally broke gameplay balance in an attempt to appeal to western kids or some other bullshit excuse like that. It's one of the most notorious localizations of all time for good reason. Stay far away from it and pick up the PSP port, or the original Japanese.
2e7696 No.14433619
>>14433320
FF8 was a fucking mistake
8f7177 No.14433652
>>14433521
>Seeing as it's a (((Western))) developed game, I highly doubt that.
Warren Spencer is the only guy on the team at that time that I can confirm is a Jew, however the other three worked on games such as System Shock, Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld, Descent, and Terra Nova. And that Ned Lerner has apparently been all over the fucking place.
1f77cc No.14433684
>>14433045
Bloodborne is actually the shortest of the Souls games if you skip the optional areas and don't go for the "best" ending
1c4a05 No.14433732
>>14433536
What >>14433608 said. It's pretty much the shining proof that (((localization))) was never a good thing.
133c7a No.14433776
>>14433684
Surprisingly so and that's the only thing that makes having no respec option tolerable since you can make it back to end game rapidly if you fuck up your stat allocation like I did.
24331f No.14433825
>>14433619
>Xenogears falls apart on disc 2 because of FF8
>FF8 falls apart on disc 2 because of its own lack of direction
Both of those games could have been so much better.
2e7696 No.14433845
>>14433825
Which is why the devs jumped ship to Namco because when the Squeenix merger happened, they all wanted to focus on Final Fantasy games, good fucking idea Squeenix.
2e7696 No.14433855
>>14432986
Also, l want to finish Abyss mode on Nioh, currently on floor 210, 789 to go, fuck.
5a21b8 No.14434016
>>14432986
>Nioh
Playing that game, and after 80 hours, I just reached the Way of the Dragon DLC Region, and I havent tested yet the Abyss mode, or any of the Way of the Warrior missions. And I havent neither completed any of the post-credits dual boss missions yet Oh boy…
Hollow knight had its long time too, Im not sure how long I played it, but it was many hours.
Now, The longest game that I played, was Dark Chronicles (Or also know as Dark Cloud 2). Lets just say that in every part you must complete a shitload of dungeons, and everytime the number of dungeons grow to an alarming rate. And when you complete the game…There is post-content region with I think a hundred dungeons or something like that. Obviously, i couldnt even more of that game.
808206 No.14434045
>>14434042
I have over 200 hours in kamidori. What a game.
7b19e3 No.14434068
>>14434016
was the story any good?
46f14b No.14434101
>>14433845
Good thing they did, really. I don't want to imagine Xenoblade Chronicles done under FFXIII-era squeenix.
5a21b8 No.14434146
>>14434068
Entertaining. It was a long time, and gameplay was grindy & tedious.
2e7696 No.14434197
>>14434101
They killed a lot of their old RPG franchises aside from Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, they could have a diverse portfolio of JRPGs, even though Xenogears was somewhat pretentious at disc 2, it had a deep story and characters and backgrounds you don't see much in any other games.
192e36 No.14434212
>>14432986
But Nioh was really short?
133c7a No.14434234
>>14434212
I'd actually like to see someone to make a chart measuring and comparing the total map sizes of the 5 Souls games and Nioh. I would be curious to find which is the smallest and which is the largest.
192e36 No.14434245
>>14434234
In favor of which in your mind?
Most of the maps are pretty miniscule in Nioh with narrow paths. Even the bigger ones are mostly just narrow places for the most part. I loved Nioh but game length was not the good aspect, it has so much re-treads of the same levels and enemies disguised as new content, when it's just the same level with a few different enemy placements. The bridge and oni graveyard missions are the worst offenders.
8cb19c No.14434252
>>14434212
No, Nioh is about as long as DS3 or Bloodborne if you work fast, despite the amount of content it has.
46f14b No.14434260
>>14434212
I think OP operates more on the basis that Nioh offers a lot of shit to do. Just because it reuses assets like crazy doesn't mean there is little to do in the game.
b4a6a5 No.14434281
Gravity rush 2 and XenobladeX both blew my mind with their sizes, they both especially had a lot of content to mess around with too!
I dont even know how nintendo managed to even fit XCX on a wiiu much less get it to run smoothly.
And then they managed to port XC on the fucking n3ds
133c7a No.14434300
>>14434252
>>14434245
I just know that Nioh has more floor space that Bloodborne does. This is the entirety of Bloodborne except the three sections of Nightmare Yharnam. Mind you that I'm not saying that the simply lacking in size or length is something that makes one game worse than the other, I'm just curious about it is all.
>>14434260
I think that this is a pretty fair statement. There's a ton of content in Nioh.
5282f6 No.14434306
>>14433608
What the fuck? It was an entire route? I always thought it was a singular event or something.
192e36 No.14434307
>>14434300
Yeah, sure. You said Souls so I just think DaS1, not BB. BB was really fucking short too. And I'm not gonna argue about the ton of content issue any further, seems some people don't mind re-using places and enemies, and some do.
133c7a No.14434362
>>14434307
>seems some people don't mind re-using places and enemies, and some do.
I wish they had disguised some of it a little better, like using different lighting or weather conditions, but the reusing maps didn't really bother me. I do wish Nioh featured more varieties of youkai. I don't think the game suffered for it per se, it would have just made it even better.
The one thing that I found a little disappointing is that the little hitosume kozo can only transform into one eyed oni or snowclops where as the thing with Fuku's familiar implies that they could transform into any kind of other youkai. That would have added more variety to the game without having to add any actual additional assets. Imaging the uncertainty of not knowing what they might turn into if you happen to get licked twice.
192e36 No.14434368
>>14434362
>possible bird Tengu any time you meet the little fucks
fug
46f14b No.14434380
>>14434300
I'm really conflicted about Bloodborne as well. When I play it, I have a constant feeling of playing some kind of proof of concept. It's not that it's unfinished, more like it's not fully realized. What's there is pretty good, but it always falls short in some way.
Byrgenwerth is the obvious example of what I'm talking about (location hyped the whole game turns out to be a tiny-ass building with some jerk inside) but it extends to many things. Cainhurst gives the illusion of being much bigger than it actually is, the nightmare areas are kind of heh, all bosses drop is shit for the chalice dungeons, this sort of thing.
I imagine the sheer number of areas that are optional contributes to that feeling. When all is said and done, the mandatory path is extremely short by souls standards. Such design has its upsides and its downsides. I really can't imagine how it must have been at launch because the DLC feels like a core part of the game.
>>14434281
The best part about XCX is how seemingly small sidequests can drastically change New LA, such as getting a new friendly alien species to chill out. The worst part is everything else.
d93281 No.14434392
Okami was long as fuck.
I remember that I went to play something else in the mid of Orochi's ark and then lost steam to come back and finish it. Then later on I found out there was another ark after that, wtf.
Maybe I'll give the PC release a try later.
5a21b8 No.14434856
>>14434392
Good, Obama adverts for the 2008 election were really cringe & shitty in that time, and they are a thousand times worse now.
7df1dd No.14434862
This one right here, I put in 200 hours and I'm still nowhere near 100%ing the game. I still have a ton of quests to do.
14e9b7 No.14434967
>>14434234
>I would be curious to find which is the smallest
I'd put money on dark souls 3 as the smallest and either 2 or nioh as the largest
97eaa6 No.14434977
>>14434306
Yeah, I suppose the word "Quest" can be misleading. It's actually a whole different playthrough.
b378ae No.14435090
>>14434392
port is a fucking mess.
0cb372 No.14440528
I guess I could bump with this?
You'd expect it to be just Bark Knuckle 3 with extra characters, not a huge ass non-linear epic that is several times larger than all 3 games combined.
f137fa No.14440873
>>14440528
I had fun with that game. Bodyslamming everyone to death in Mania doesn't get old.
4de63d No.14440984
Are the people saying Near a Tomato confusing big-ass game with big ass game?
46f14b No.14441008
>>14440984
It seems to be the case.
2d4860 No.14447504
>>14432986
>"I guess the game is over, weird ending tho… Holy shit I get to go to another planet!"
Modern RPGs wish they could do post-game content like these fuckers did.
579a5d No.14447579
>>14447504
Symphonia had post-game content?
2d4860 No.14447602
>>14447579
There was the hell/dungeon/thing and there were also a bunch of rare weapons you could collect. It definitely had more, I've just forgotten most of it.
566bbf No.14448932
>>14440984
It takes around 30 hours to complete and 50 hours to 100%.
It's easily the longest Platinum game to date.
2171ac No.14448956
>>14448932
And this thread started with Nioh, for which 50 hours is like a little baby struggling to get out of his crib, so get the fuck out of here with your weak shit.
a8c334 No.14448966
>>14448956
>Basically post in this thread games that you thought would be much smaller, but are actually fucking huge and long.
stop being a faggot
382090 No.14449205
Recently, dead cells
It's (((early access))) so I was expecting some half-assed shit worth a few hours, maybe something comparable to ye olde binding of isaac at most considering how much more complicated the level and enemy design has to be
But it has like 15 separate levels, I've been playing for most of a week and I haven't even seen all of them yet
Though it seems most of their dev time went into that content as the game aside from that is really lacking, there's no real reason to go to half of those areas more than once and the progression is all over the place
ddd81d No.14453394
>>14432986
>have to play it under W10 to fix the unplayable crashes I had on W7
undoubtedly there will be some w10 exclusive ones too…
0f15be No.14453774
>>14453394
Wasn't the win 10 source leaked? When are we getting pirate windows OS.
ddd81d No.14453904
>>14453774
dunno about that but KT are talented devs, but the talent is them making worst ports known to mankind.