f5cd9f No.14380230
http://archive.is/wGPZc
The title is technically clickbait, but you know what they're trying to do with this.
>Each new character you create in Metal Gear Survive will cost $10 if you don't want to delete your first one.
Keeping your existing character essentially means creating another save file for your new one. And IGN has confirmed that each new save slot costs 1,000 Survival coins. You can buy 1,150 coins for $9.99.
>Metal Gear Survive's microtransactions were confirmed last month, but not all details of what you could purchase with them — save files for example — were explained.
>Metal Gear Survive released this week for PC, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One.
>For more on the game, check out IGN's review-in-progress for Metal Gear Survive.
420961 No.14380262
And i suppose you can't get these coins in game, right?
4e9b88 No.14380272
7eba7b No.14380274
Reminder that Kingdoms Come Deliverance and Let it Die (both popular games on /v/) did the same.
43a332 No.14380275
>>14380230
I assume there's some way of getting the in-game currency somehow by playing, but watch that shit take fucking decades to rack up.
79014f No.14380287
>>14380274
But those are good games.
d2fce7 No.14380288
>>14380274 (you)
>KCD
You craft save potions in-game, retard. No micro transactions. Dunno about the other game.
ed33c9 No.14380291
>>14380262
I've seen a website saying you can. 10 bucks just happens to give a little bit more ingame cash than the amount needed for a new character. Still scummy though, obviously.
955914 No.14380292
>>14380230
>expecting konami to not be jews
On another topic, wouldn't you be able to manually create saves and insert files or someshit?
196e22 No.14380295
>>14380274
Difference being Let It Die is free.
193a00 No.14380300
>>14380288
He's talking out of his ass, must be the same butthurt shill who was crusading against those games.
7eba7b No.14380305
>>14380230
So wait a second, i got it. You probably didn't got it either.
YOU PAY $10 TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PERMANENT SAVE SLOT, NOT PAYING $10 EACH TIME
43a332 No.14380314
>>14380305
That's still scummy and absolutely fucking retarded since you already pay fucking 40 bucks for this piece of shit.
f5dad3 No.14380315
>>14380274
>in-game item with in-game currency is same as microtransaction with real money
I stand your bullshit and I don't even like KC:D.
7eba7b No.14380324
>>14380314
That is a norm in a lot of mmos though.
f98422 No.14380334
>>14380324
yes, that makes it even worse
d2fce7 No.14380336
>>14380324
And the practice should stay in mmos and away from other genres.
43a332 No.14380338
>>14380324
Yeah, and MMOs are fucking shit
955914 No.14380340
>>14380324
Most not shit-tier mmos gives you at least 3 or so free character slots and charge you for sharing items between them, this is like a step below where you can only have one slot in a loot-based shooter that will probably have seasonal events with unique items and non-farmable gear
t. mmo player
7eba7b No.14380354
>>14380334
>>14380336
Well, at least now you know that japanese industry is not superior.
43a332 No.14380361
>>14380354
>Bandai Namco
>Koei Tecmo
Genuine question, I don't know what those two did.
I know Capcom's been shady as fuck and they made a game in collaboration with Namco that had shit in it but that wasn't entirely on them.
420961 No.14380365
>>14380354
Square Enix is redpill?
f5dad3 No.14380367
>>14380354
>list of japanese jews
>not including the most notorious one
43a332 No.14380371
>>14380365
They're splitting up the FF7 remake into episodes
so no
afec47 No.14380377
Do you think at some point normalfags are going to realize that they're paying $40-$60 to access a game indistinguishable from a F2P MMORPG except for the fact that it contains characters from a franchise they like?
And then realize that the not-F2P sludge they're ingesting only contains pathetic caricatures of their favorite characters, because the original writers and developers left long ago?
…Probably not. They might as well have made it $30.
e0f660 No.14380386
>>14380354
It's missing
>squeenix
>kadokawa
>Nintendo
>Sony
Any others?
7eba7b No.14380395
>>14380361
Bamco implements denuvo, was behind butchering souls series and generally loves re-releasing without making a lot of new content, like they did with Naruto games or how they butchered .hack series.
Koei Tecmo sells games with batches like expansions for full price. Also KT has the biggest amount of DLC shit for video games ever.
>>14380365
Holy fuck, forgot the most obvious one.
7eba7b No.14380405
>>14380386
>>14380367
Do i really need to explain why nintendo isn't as jewish compared to those companies?
f5dad3 No.14380419
>>14380405
>Do i really need to explain why nintendo isn't as jewish compared to those companies?
No, you don't, my goiest goyim.
f5cd9f No.14380424
>>14380324
>>14380338
>>14380340
>>14380377
The catch is that this isn't an MMO. It may as well be pushing a trend for finding an excuse to mix the practices of microtransactions and single-player/co-op games. Can't say too much on the latter since I don't know if they're doing client-server hybrid or an actual server. Either way, red flag on possible trends in the future. 10 years from now, you may see attempts of single player only games with online DRM and microtransactions entirely to leech cash for what's still free.
>>14380365
I don't play it or like Square, but them apologizing for the enormous flop that was FFXIV and turning it around to a success on their own is better than the Western company trends of blaming toxic gamers because their diversity hires aren't making good products.
373ef7 No.14380439
>>14380405
>He thinks Nintendo isn't jewish
I wonder who this could be?
da8496 No.14380441
>>14380230
so why dont people just copy and save their file someplace else?
4ac54f No.14380442
>>14380274
>Kingdoms Come Deliverance
Why are you lying?
7eba7b No.14380448
>>14380441
You obviously didn't read about the part that MG Survive isn't playable offline. It stores save slots on servers.
43a332 No.14380477
>>14380405
>Sells emulated retro games for upwards of $10 a piece
>Their digital storefront has near to no sales compared to others
>Keeps making underpowered hardware to save costs on manufacturing and hoping that it'll be popular so they can force devs to make games for their shit platform
>FUCKING
>CARDBOARD
ae8372 No.14380483
>>14380405
Anon I like Nintendy but don't for a fucking second act like they aren't turbokikes when it comes to copyright.
373ef7 No.14380493
>>14380477
You're forgetting selling physical DLC toys.
49083a No.14380516
>>14380274
>(both popular games on /v/)
I played let it die and dropped it because it's (((free))). All I recall about fags' opinions on it here was them lamenting that a good character like radical Death was stuck in such a shitty game. What you say about KC:D is outright false, shit stirrer.
be6da7 No.14380562
>>14380300
>>14380288
I assume he's kvetching about the fact that there is only one "profile" and a limited save count so if you start a new game you will eventually overwrite your saves. However he forgot that it's a fucking PC game where you can just back up your save files.
49083a No.14380563
>>14380405
Oh hi Mark.
>Do I honestly need to support my statements with arguments?
Wew lad. Coming from the faggot whose first post contained an outright lie to slander KC:D, a game currently hated by SJWs. A lie suspiciously similar the one used by GayInformer to slander Automata, a game that was at least initially hated by SJWs.
a055f1 No.14380566
>>14380274
You fucking liar.
ac5d69 No.14380717
>>14380395
Throw Atlus on there with their constant hard on for selling heaps of DLC for games that shouldn’t have DLC.
e34ad8 No.14380720
I notice that Mark sucks at being Jewish. He's practically a crypto-goy.
cd9e2b No.14380764
>>14380562
metal gear survive is if you want to have multiple characters on one profile to level up cause you fucking love grinding
354d6d No.14380800
>>14380563
>Horse armor
that will never not make me mad.
8d4edd No.14380823
>>14380563
>the hunter
>you have a 3 months hunting permit that runs out in real-time
And all those time-gated features that sells you direct access, reminds me of the trainwreck that was shadow of war with all its grinding, the PR said they put in microtranscations for people who don't have time to play our game
Truly it is the most perfect jewish trick
>create a problem
>sell the solution
b4b8d2 No.14380828
It finally released after the shitshow on steam? Is it dead?
4e9b88 No.14380837
>>14380405
Do it. Embarass yourself.
955914 No.14380874
>>14380563
Oh jesus that fucking game, I remember playing that piece of garbage
>go into steam page
>people were shitting it so hard shills couldn't be slighlty subtle about it
49083a No.14380893
>>14380874
The PC release was a dumpster fire and gameplay was subpar for P*. Only redeeming features are Taro's story and the music. Final ending is also somewhat fucked up if you can't connect online. I'm not playing it again, but I still loved it.
cd9e2b No.14381001
>>14380828
nobody was hyped for this. started with around 5000 people playing on average. but now its up to 6 so maybe it will find a way to survive
most people on line are ace teammates
dce0f2 No.14381039
>>14380324
Free MMOs you retard.
4a7064 No.14381082
>>14380477
Well they just released an update for Mario Odissey with new costumes and an online minigame, witch I liked btw.
Oh yeah, they charged me FUCKING NOTHING, it's free…
>>14380424
>I don't play it or like Square, but them apologizing for the enormous flop that was FFXIV and turning it …
So they selling praxis kits that you can't reuse on another save or they selling Hitman with a season pass, then charging those who paid for the season pass another DLC is okay for you?
a8a7b4 No.14381151
>>14380230
the shillbots are out in force on the steam page
meanwhile setting reviews to "most helpful" returns about 5 pages of genuine negative reviews before even one single positive shill review can be seen
cd9e2b No.14381251
>>14381151
you dont have to own the game to rate a review helpful so it's prone to brigading
4a2976 No.14381303
>>14381151
>that profile picture
Christ they dont even try to hide they are being faggots
d5288e No.14381364
>>14380274
Let it Die is F2P, dont mud the waters.
f5cd9f No.14381366
>>14381082
No. I don't like Square and they're scummy about plenty of things. I'm not aware of them blaming their audience for games they make being hated as much as the likes of EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc. Read my post.
37ef59 No.14381378
>>14381151
>My puppy <3
click on it. $5 says it leads to their boyfriend.
885171 No.14381405
Junji Ito can't draw for shit
c0b6f4 No.14381418
>>14380230
>$40 dollarydoos for the game
>riddled with microtransactions for basic functionality
>cash shop currency
>microtransactions
If this shit were free, I might be able to say "well, yeah, it makes sense that they'd do shit like this" but charging for it, even at a slightly lower than average price, and then loading it down with digital kikery is just not forgivable. Here's to hoping the normalfag rage consumes this one like it did for EA and SWBattlefront 2. Those dumb shits should at least be good for that much.
edbcdc No.14381470
We have reached the point where people need to pay money in order to play their games with more than 1 character.
Wow Konami sure is doing great without Kojima. Kojimbo shills totally btfo, MG Survive is literally the greatest game ever, stay mad kojimadrones heh
I sure can't wait to buy this great non-kojima game just to support Konami's decision to fire this hack
7aaa4a No.14381478
>>14381470
>Not shitting both on cannibalistic pedophile money sink and the Konami jews
>implying any metal gear solid after 3 was good
885171 No.14381495
Just wait for Left Alive, niggers.
Yoji Shinkawa is working for Square now.
He's the real talent.
b4b8d2 No.14381500
>>14381478
Peace Walker was ok as an action game.
885171 No.14381532
>>14381500
I didn't find the story to be all that good, personally. I don't understand how people were calling it "the real MGS5" when it wasnt even as good as 3
edbcdc No.14381536
>implying any metal gear solid after 3 was good
This meme needs to die.
Peace Walker is considered by many to be the best. And if it wasn't for the PSP limitations, it would be.
MGS4 was the worst, but it's multiplayer was the best. And MGSV despite being an unfinished game and utterly disappointing story-wise , the gameplay was fucking great, and that makes it a good game.
885171 No.14381541
>>14381536
They improved the gameplay but shit on everything else.
7aaa4a No.14381555
>>14381532
peace walker was superior to MGS V somehow maybe kojangles should make more monhun clones to gain acceptance from his son instead of fucking and eating missing children along with Hollywood has-beens,
Survive is the best Metal Gear game with V in name
>>14381536
>the gameplay was fucking great, and that makes it a good game.
Sure loved walking through empty locations, really utilizing those mechanics such as throwing a mag as a distraction or clicking a menu to take off enemy helmets with no foreplay
885171 No.14381568
>>14381555
>Survive is the best Metal Gear game with V in name
eesh
7aaa4a No.14381573
>>14380262
if you turn on the game every day for two weeks from today You'll get it (((free)))
t. purchased the game with selling boxes to chinks
739320 No.14381584
>>14381555 (checked)
>Survive is the best Metal Gear game with V in name
ReVengence would like a word with you.
ba1a64 No.14381592
>>14381584
Peace VValker has two v's
885171 No.14381596
>>14381584
I'm starting to think that Kojima's original "grey fox killing zombies" MGR idea would have been shit and what we got was pretty much the best game konami pumped out in the last decade.
677e77 No.14381597
>>14380230
ah ha ha ha
>blacklisted forever
2ec99b No.14381607
>>14381592
W is two double u's you fucking Italian piece of shit
7e383e No.14381651
>>14381536
>Peace Walker is considered by many to be the best
I don't see how. It's a downgrade from many of the other MGS's, you can't even crawl.
Putting it on a more powerful system wouldn't change anything really. especially considering Kojimbo was trying to cater to children
885171 No.14381697
>>14381651
This is a low point maybe, but there's not even any blood either.
edbcdc No.14381705
>>14381555
>Sure loved walking through empty locations
Haha wow it's almost as if Konami ignored Kojima and they forced the team to make the game run on piece of shit hardware aka PS3.
>clicking a menu to take off enemy helmets
Only works for half of the enemy's grunts. At higher-level missions the units will still wear helmets.
>really utilizing those mechanics such as throwing a mag as a distraction
Such as in every MGS ever. There are more ways to play, but your IQ is too low to get creative with the shitload of items the game gives you.
>Survive is the best Metal Gear game with V in name
Now I know you're shitposting
>>14381651
>I don't see how
Play it then
dce0f2 No.14381711
>>14381536
It was kinda addictive capturing people in PW, but the story was shit and the gameplay was way worse than MGS3.
7e383e No.14381721
>>14381705
>Play it then
I did, I even played it coop. It's a nice game but it's not even close to being the best. Honestly the only MGS gear it competes with is maybe PO?
7aaa4a No.14381731
>>14381705
>Haha wow it's almost as if Konami ignored Kojima and they forced the team to make the game run on piece of shit hardware aka PS3.
So as an act of revenge Kojimbo wasted what, 50 million on song licenses?
>but your IQ is too low to get creative
My bad, i don't watch rick and morty.
>>>/cuckchan/ with your wojak edits and kym filenames.
da262e No.14381735
>>14381731
>song licenses
Oh boy here we go
cd4e8c No.14381758
>>14380274
Why are you blatantly lying?
885171 No.14381764
>>14380274
Yeah but Let It Die is fucking free and you can make as many characters as you want on one save with in game money. Who needs another save for Let It Die?
36c6af No.14381775
I'm sure the PC crack will allow you to make backups of old saves.
da8496 No.14381793
>>14380448
>isn't playable offline
wew, whats next? stream only videogames?
37ef59 No.14381829
>>14381793
I am 100% certain that all these up-and-coming "stream and play video games from our servers, to your shitty laptop!" services by corporate giants like jewgle will pay game studios/publishers to make their games only available through aforementioned service. Like win10-only games but worse.
Is it possible to pirate a game that's exclusively available via streaming from foreign servers? Not that any of those games will be worth pirating, mind you.
55f5b0 No.14381842
>>14381793
Cloud gaming is an existing tech, anon.
In many places, infrastructure exists where server farms etc are so strong and have such good latency that it's cheaper to just have them play the game do AV out to the client pc
9a6565 No.14381856
>>14380274
Let it Die didn't hamfist it and it's F2P.
739320 No.14381934
>>14381858
t. assblasted Konami shill
395088 No.14381944
>>14380419
post your best jews
dce0f2 No.14381977
>>14381858
I-it's not as shit as this other shit game so who cares!
edbcdc No.14381987
>>14381731
>song licenses
You can't be this retarded
>m-muh wojak cuckchan
Kill yourself
>>14381858
>>14381978
Hello reddit
13872d No.14382150
based konami totally owning kojima right now boys. glad its happening.
f76bf6 No.14382633
>They're making save files into microtransactions now
We can't go back no more.
885171 No.14382649
>>14382150
Maybe they both suck.
739320 No.14382650
>>14382633
Soon, we'll have microtransactions for option menus.
885171 No.14382658
>>14382650
Of course, all vidya is dead because of this one game nobody on this board was gonna buy in the first place…
f76bf6 No.14382666
>>14382658
Publishers follow each other, and they also follow money. Most of the money is in the hands of the stupid masses who eat shit like this on a daily basis.
Buy it or not, it's out of our control.
a380a7 No.14382752
>>14380563
I recall Train Simulator having a legit reason for being so buttfucking expensive which include companies selling them the rights to use their Train models in game for a shitload of cash and the autistic playerbase not settling for fake brands.
9c71e9 No.14382798
>>14381705
>Haha wow it's almost as if Konami ignored Kojima and they forced the team to make the game run on piece of shit hardware aka PS3.
>he still believes shit posted without proof
My dad works at Nintendo too.
cd9e2b No.14383158
>>14382658
>nobody on this board was gonna buy in the first place…
:^)
3459fb No.14384522
>>14384488
i actually agree. it's a shame that it's never going to reach its full potential because people are spreading and buying the idea that you can pay for more save slots
499e6b No.14384552
>>14384522
From what I've seen it's a basic make your base and fight with other people(i.e. what MGS 5 should've been with mother base).
It's a fun concept that no one has done right because of jews, but it doesn't seem to be that impressive in the game.
>tfw no complex base building game where you need to go on missions for money to buy resources, building complex bases and sneaking into other player's complex bases, without him knowing you even were there if you do it right
3459fb No.14384561
>>14384552
you make your base but you don't fight with other people. Really it's all about the PVE grind and i like that. i also like how autistic it lets me get with my base; you can lay it out exactly, piece by piece, how you want it
d74239 No.14384564
The game is already out? I am really out of the loop since I don't use Steam.
9447a4 No.14384590
>>14382798
that one was obviously the case though. regardless of whether or not you believe that anon's actual narrative, every other open world game that came out at the same time on current gen and last gen ended up having severe problems with number of visible entities.
it's not like ram limits don't exist because you don't believe anon's story
f9f110 No.14384593
>>14380367
>not using Wario
fdb93b No.14384624
>>14381536
>people shit on mgs4 because it's a movie
>people shit on mgsv becasue it's just gameplay
374417 No.14384632
>>14380405
>Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator
3391e3 No.14384757
>>14382666
>Most of the money is in the hands of the stupid masses who eat shit
satan speaks the truth
d9f43a No.14384799
>>14380230
To be fair, isn't that basically what gamers have been demanding from semi-free MMOs for over a decade? You shouldn't sell power, but you may sell convenience. It's not giving any player an advantage, so it's not pay-to-win.
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a SHIIIIIIIIILLL!!!!!!
4d72bc No.14384820
>>14380405
Please fucking do
Especially after the fucking cardboard box
499e6b No.14384873
>>14384561
It does seem kind of fun, but also really fucking simple.
Even pre-made rooms would be better. Like pre-made rooms in certain shapes that you could connect with others to make more complex shapes or build side-by-side with other rooms to make complex buildings then build machinery on them for specialized purposes.
From what I've seen with metal gear survive it's just flat expansion with pre-made structures that don't interact with each other.
>>14384799
No.
Maybe one or two fags. Anyone that isn't either fucking braindead or a shill agrees that giving players an edge, either by giving them more storage or character slots is still jewish as fuck.
The only thing some people agree on is that paid-only cosmetics aren't as bad for decent free MMO games.
f1b191 No.14384899
>>14384522
Its never going to reach its full potential because the only potential the publisher cares about is its monetary one.
i agree that it could be pretty fun if done properly but i don't think that's possible regardless of public reception.
d9f43a No.14385014
>>14384873
>giving players an edge
Which they are not doing. You seem to think having another save slot is an edge, but how does it affect player versus player? You can't play with multiple save slots at the same time. Each of your characters individually does not get any more powerful by the existence of another character tied to your account.
499e6b No.14385114
>>14385014
Maybe "giving players an edge" was wrong in that sentence, but it's still bullshit.
I've not played the game, so I don't know if it is complete shit, but, if it's still at least as good as metal gear 5, it's going to let players play have different approaches to various situations(e.g. full stealth and fuck your shit guns blazing).
By giving players limited saves for no reason other than to earn money, you are depriving players from gameplay of a game they bought simply because you want to earn money. "Free" players are getting shit on despite paying 60 dollars for the game, whereas only cash cows can enjoy the different aspects of the game without having to waste all their time investment in other characters.
Cosmetics don't change anything at all about gameplay, which is why some people don't mind them in free games.
Besides, it's fucking paid characters on a paid game. Microtransactions on paid games are inherently jewish, even more so if it's a full price game.
ae35af No.14385358
>>14380562
Kingdom Come has way more than one profile.
I have 3 different ones currently going, and there's still space for at least two more.
a2de47 No.14385451
6fc2d0 No.14385514
>>14381705
>unironically defending MGSV
>a game /v/ has already went through all the stages of denial on years ago
New exodus cannot come fast enough.
2063a8 No.14385612
>>14381829
>Is it possible to pirate a game that's exclusively available via streaming from foreign servers?
Imagine vidya becoming so shit the cinematic experiences get their own netflix.
What a hell of a timeline.
928e2a No.14385644
>>14381944 (checked)
My folder is a big guy.
cd9e2b No.14386036
>>14384873
the base building seems really simplistic and is but then the game throws fucking mortar/machinegun zombies at you and your whole defense plan goes out the door
>>14384564
released without much fanfare. had a beta with one co-op map that lasted a few days before it came out
f9db56 No.14386352
>>14380563
People always point to horse armor as being the leading cause of microtransactions but it was EA with FIFA that really pushed out microtransactions.
dce0f2 No.14386395
>>14386352
Horse armor isn't even microtransactions, it's DLC. Microtransactions is shit like lootboxes and paying for in-game currency.
47b4f3 No.14386407
>>14385644
that second one holy shit,those voice clips are almost perfect
da94c0 No.14386839
It is ok when Konami does it, anon.
f0fc21 No.14386916
>>14380405
Go for it faggot
>>14381082
>Well they just released an update for Mario Odissey with new costumes and an online minigame
Only because it was intended for the base game, hence why Luigi has an unused/beta model in the files backpack instead of a suitcase like Balloon World Luigi
e04079 No.14386918
metal gear online also made you pay for new character slots.
6fc2d0 No.14387080
>>14386352
Activision pioneered Season Passes
>>14386598
Jesus Christ this can't be real, they're really like that in Jew York?
928e2a No.14387167
>>14387080
Yep. I visited once and there's even a (((deli))) that sells $20 sandwiches.
acab42 No.14387201
At this point no self-respecting customer should ever buy any of these rip off Jew commie propaganda pieces called games. You are literally paying the Jew to brainwash you at this point.
613bc2 No.14387253
>Just think how much more you'll cherish your save files now you have to pay for them!
c33d29 No.14387264
>>14387080
No it's not fucking real. It's a parody of that video of the woman walking around getting cat called.
cb690b No.14387610
>>14387343
>praising 4 and 5
>points to kojima leaving as a point of failure
>not noting the poor budget choices in development of 5 as a reason for firing kojima
he's fellating kojima throughout the entire video, nigger. survive may be ass, but that doesn't retroactively make 5 good
c33d29 No.14387625
>>14387610
he praised 5 on release.
885171 No.14387643
>>14387353
How about you take your obviously jewish ass out of here before things get ugly. Don't try to make excuses for your satanic doctrines, prick.
e20d23 No.14387738
>>14387080
Holy shit you are a gullible faggot.
978224 No.14387741
konima are good bois they dindu nuffin
dd4a58 No.14387744
>>14380230
>Kojima starts working with Hollywood
>becomes corrupted and is now no better than them
Figures.
7aaa4a No.14387749
>>14387353
but is sanhedrin 59a the one which says that spoiling Talmud to the goyim is literally annudah shoah because how fucked up it is?
e22701 No.14387782
>>14380405
>Makes underpowered and overpriced consoles based off a gimmick nobody will ever even remember it for
>Hopped on the online subscription meme
>Cardboard
6fc2d0 No.14387787
>>14387264
OK, calm down.
>>14387738
>this can't be real
>holy shit you are a gullible faggot
Keep your knee jerk sperging to a minimum autist it was a question and I didn't assume it was real right off the bat. Kill yourself.
c33d29 No.14387819
>>14387787
>tells me to calm down
>goes on defensive overload telling anons to kill themselves
Take your own advice how about?
f02728 No.14387878
>>14381532
>>14381500
Peacewalker is shit. SHIT
The only benefit it has over V is being a complete product. And FUCK that flash-tweened concept art "cutscene" format when they clearly show they could do real cutscenes in-engine at the very start.
Plus, it introduced Steve "GIVE ME MORE SHEKELS OY VEY WE'RE LITERALLY COUGHING UP BLOOD IN THE STUDIO AND $100 A SENTENCE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY" Blum and Tara "screeching jew harpy even ponyfags hate" Strong to the series.
>>14384561
>FO4 does this
>it's bad
>MGS does the exact same thing
>i-it's fun g-guys
>>14385514
>crying about the best unfinished game ever released
>>14387600
>muh hooknosetube IP harvester that serves no thumbnail because views are literally anudda shoah
fbe476 No.14387891
>>14387343
>your guy dies in 2 hits
>your guy can only run for 2 seconds
>his food and water bars are at 25% in every single clip
7877f7 No.14387892
>>14387878
>And FUCK that flash-tweened concept art "cutscene" format when they clearly show they could do real cutscenes in-engine at the very start.
>Steve "GIVE ME MORE SHEKELS OY VEY WE'RE LITERALLY COUGHING UP BLOOD IN THE STUDIO AND $100 A SENTENCE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY" Blum
You do realize Portable Ops came out before Piss Wanker right?
6fc2d0 No.14387894
Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14387353
>>14387692
>it doesn't exist goy
Give me a source that confirms this.
Video: Talmudic Judaism by Dr. Pierce
>>14387819
You didn't insult me, but he did. Don't know what to tell you.
>>14387878
>best unfinished game ever
But that's wrong, Dark Souls and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. are better games.
>IP harvester
>literal purpose is to block Goolag privacy invasion and avoid giving views to certain videos
Source or get the fuck out.
f1b191 No.14387897
>>14387878
imo the main reason why base building sucked in FO4 was because the engine is complete shit and clunky, and because the "bases" are just collections of 3D models without any function.
It could be cool if done properly but it was clearly intended as a selling point and not as an actual game element.
c5eeef No.14387901
>>14387343
>social justice jackass
f02728 No.14387906
>>14387892
Notcanon Ops didn't get put in the HD pack for the ps3/360 generation so I haven't seen it.
>>14387894
>giving someone else your IP is safe muh views
Also
>dork souls
>shit meme game whose only selling point is "it's slightly difficult t. newfag that never played any old PC games that were truly difficult even on the lowest difficulties"
And stalker crashes too much and has even more of the game left out, with added disappointment from shit like dezonigger bait&switch alpha failing to reproduce what was supposed to be the original final product.
7aaa4a No.14387923
>>14387891
>>his food and water bars are at 25% in every single clip
Is it brain damage?
Before you get the lvl 2 campfire (you get a pot to purify water) every single main story location has two bottles of clean water so you don't need to risk getting diarrhea from dirty water, afterwards you purify it.
Food is plentufil as well through animals and plants.
1a7e1a No.14387937
>>14380405
>isn't as jewish
The fuck is this, 50 shades of oy vey? Judaism is judaism.
f02728 No.14387946
>>14387927
>MGS3,4,GZ,TPP have normal real cutscenes
>only pissp mobilegames have the concept art flash tweening cancer
I'm going to assume you're on something since you can't even reply to the right post.
bef8a7 No.14388037
>>14381536
>the gameplay was fucking great
What did you like about it? I always see everyone say this about MGSV but never understood why. As an open world game it didn't do anything I hadn't seen done before and as a stealth game it felt like a step down from 3 and 4 in a ton of ways. There's no clever level design to abuse in creative ways, siderolling is way too overpowered, getting spotted is less dangerous than ever thanks to regenerating health and that mechanic that locks on to enemies when they see you I know you can turn it off, and I did, but the game's still clearly designed with it in mind, the buddy system just trivialises everything even more and CQC was incredibly dumbed down compared to 4.
There aren't any interesting tools/weapons like rotten food in 3 or the solar gun/mini gear MK3/emotional tranq bullets in 4, either. The best they could come up with was a flying robot fist that's functionally identical to the batarang from Arkham Asylum, which came out 6 years earlier. Sliding down hills in a box that you'll never use because it's difficult enough to actually get spotted as is is kind of alright, I guess?
I'd be lying if I said I didn't have some fun with MGSV, mostly through treating it like a third-rate Just Cause 2 by attaching explosives to vehicles then driving them into enemies, but I genuinely don't understand why everyone says this. It doesn't do anything that the most open world games and stealth games don't do significantly better.
91c3ea No.14388073
>survive bombed so hard Konami decided to make it impossible for steamspy to access their data
LOL
dce0f2 No.14388076
>>14388073
I thought the Steamspy guy stopped letting companies opt out?
01cc97 No.14388102
>>14380386
Sega, obviously. Do people conveniently forget? Are they "one of the good ones" around here, or something?
91c3ea No.14388126
dce0f2 No.14388146
>>14388126
Maybe it'll show up tomorrow.
f02728 No.14388154
>>14387954
Confirmed for talking out your ass and having never played the games. Go back to >>>/fringe/
>>14388037
>first MGS with the shooting mechanics that are actually good instead of the autism shitfest that they were before
7d7d11 No.14388159
>>14388073
Hasn't it been a Steam top seller since release?
c429ce No.14388179
>>14388102
Other than the Denuvo shit on Sonic, Sega is probably the least shit company. In that they actually produce good games on a semi-regular basis.
d55a91 No.14388180
>>14388174
Reminds me Nintendo's Metroid II remake's sound test was locked behind an amiibo I believe
6fc2d0 No.14388355
>>14387906
>implying it's not better than google
>not giving a reason for why it's not safe to use
>lying about why people on /v/ like dark souls
You give Jim your IP, guess you should go back.
>>14387927
Fair enough, but the Protocols is not "real" so to speak. It's what a Russian author thought the jews might do and how they think, and he ended up being completely right. Prophetic words so to speak.
f02728 No.14388356
>>14388186
>hooknosetube link
>guaranteed to not be flash tweened concept art animated to look like a zero budget cartoon
Discarded.
91c3ea No.14388358
>>14388159
Being in the top sellers takes really nothing, all of last year flops were also top sellers
16d4c9 No.14388365
>>14384820
>>14387782
i've been away from /v/ for a long time. can someone explain the nintendo cardboard thing to me?
3a5d6d No.14388407
>>14388159
>>14388358
Top seller means top seller AT THE MOMENT, and most games sell the most at release. At the moment Metal Gear Survive was pushed out when other top list companies aren't putting out anything and metal gear is a brand name that people actually like. So naturally it's the top seller when compared to indie titles that haven't built up a brand yet.
dce0f2 No.14388420
>>14388365
They're selling a cardboard box for $80.
3a5d6d No.14388445
>>14388420
no it's WORSE, they're selling the IDEA of a cardboard box, that's the thing. You're not paying for the box itself, you're paying for the manuals that show you how to assemble cardboard box toys, the cardboard box is just a bonus.
That's how they will justify it to a court should they get sent to one via a lawsuit. This is how they think and this is how the thing got greenlighted.
880903 No.14388449
>>14388365
$80 Cardboard origami kits
6fc2d0 No.14388453
>>14388370
Really? I was under the notion that it was mostly prediction. Obviously it was written based on facts because he was right and totally nailed their intentions right from the get go.
>>14388445
>have to pay $80 for a shit game card and basic instructions kit
I hope it flops harder than e-Readers.
dce0f2 No.14388461
>>14388445
>That's how they will justify it to a court should they get sent to one via a lawsuit.
They can just justify it by claiming it comes with a "game"
78933d No.14388496
>>14380230
Is this an MMO? What's stopping people from moving save files out and other regular file system operations?
dce0f2 No.14388526
>>14388496
Always online, meaning your save file isn't even stored on your PC.
f02728 No.14388633
>>14388370
>you disagree with me so reported
Go back to reddit. Learn what words mean.
92ab38 No.14389108
>>14388453
>>14388449
>80$
Okay at first i wasnt sure why everybody got so upset because i only skimmed over the trailer but 80$ is fucking insulting.
Normal game = 50$ == 30 $ for fucking thick paper.
db1337 No.14389321
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I've never played it, but based on their review it actually seems fun.
9a6565 No.14389360
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2d01ac No.14389399
>>14380274
>Let It Die
No, it didn't.
6fc2d0 No.14389402
>>14389360
>2nd time this soyboy faggot has been posted
142ef6 No.14389411
>>14389360
>MGS1 and 2
>Amazing gameplay
This meme needs to die.
2d01ac No.14389443
>>14389411
Why weren't they good?
c33d29 No.14389457
>>14389402
still mad about XCX I see
142ef6 No.14389477
>>14389443
MGS 1 had atrociously bad controls and arguably worse stealth even when compared to games released around the same time. MGS 2 had most of the same foibles as MGS 1 but doesn't have the get out of jail free card of being a PS1 game.
6fc2d0 No.14389478
>>14389457
Mad that it's a piece of shit disgrace? Yes I was. We had this thread already, XCX is dogshit you goon, and your favorite eceleb is triggered by waifus. Fuck off already.
91c3ea No.14389552
>>14389402
no taste faggot spotted
91c3ea No.14389806
>>14389734
Watch his videos, he's definitely not.
People think he his because he complained about how fucking butt ugly the characters in Xenoblade are, and at the same time people were complaining about tits.
Just a dumb guilty by association situation
cd9e2b No.14390160
>>14389360
dunkey said all you is do poke zombies through a fence with a spear. and while that's true for the majority of the singleplayer campaign imagine my face when fucking mortar zombies that could also shoot bullets destroyed my fences and then me
2ac1bf No.14390382
>>14389806
he's right too, X and 2's charatcer designs have been a downgrade
5acbd0 No.14390475
>ITT retards fall for clickbait even when the guy says it's clickbait
This generation is completely lost.
dce0f2 No.14390811
>>14390160
>buying this shit
415561 No.14390861
>>14390475
Click yourself to death with a knife then kike.
2daa68 No.14390872
>>14390382
I can't speak for X, but as far as I know most characters in 2 were created by differing outside artists. Also ur wrong, only a couple designs in 1 were of much note. 2 has much more diverse designs overall, this carries over to the rare blades. Most look incredible and varied
bf7615 No.14390888
I'm pretty sure he said Xeno2 was bad because the anime titties were too big
016565 No.14390947
>>14387878
There was already more than enough content in MGSV even without episode 2.
323b77 No.14390983
>steam reviews are still mostly positiv
thanks valve for protecting games from review bombing
7aaa4a No.14390992
>>14390160
>imagine my face when fucking mortar zombies that could also shoot bullets destroyed my fences and then me
>not sending the mortar's grenades back
>not zapping him with a shock rod to get a backstab, instant kill and 150% of normal Kuban amount
I hope you did the daily yesterday, in mines, everything takes more firearm damage, running around blasting niggers with a purple shotgun was fun.
41f359 No.14391047
>>14380720
Wrong, you just can't see how he's convinced you to come to his shillchamber.
173d44 No.14391118
>>14381653
>he is like spartacus
My sides
918d73 No.14391121
>>14390983
based konami and gaben here to make sure you know everything is just fine
8b2272 No.14391132
>top seller
Are these people wanting to actually try this game out or is it just reddit buying it to make negative "muh kojima gay" reviews, or…?
47b4f3 No.14391141
>>14391132
I imagine name brand alone is carrying it to the charts.
88a7cc No.14391174
>>14391132
it is all over now
92cbe9 No.14391182
>>14390382
i still see loss in this image
e85ede No.14391379
>>14387906
>Notcanon Ops
Kill yourself kojimabo fan
ac5d69 No.14391388
>>14391379
Portable Ops was shit and is not canon, anon.
6fc2d0 No.14391704
>>14389552
I liked Dunkey you idiot, I thought he was funny. I disliked his comments on Xenoblade 2.
>>14389806
>what the fuck is wrong with you japan
We had this thread you fucking idiot, he was so fucking obviously complaining about the fan service. Quit shilling your fucking eceleb in this thread, his video was posted twice!
91c3ea No.14391872
>>14391704
>boo hoo people don't like my anime waifu trash ruining an actually not shit series
weebs should be eradicated from the planet
f83166 No.14391921
>>14391907
Only a redditor could enjoy trash like that.
fdca4e No.14391957
They should have just made a Ghost Babel remake to start off an alternate universe series and get back Tomokazu Fukushima where ever the fuck he went
6e96ee No.14391972
>>14390382
I'll grant that X has some pretty uninspired designs, barring maybe Elma, but XC2 actually has some pretty good ones, like Morag and Nia's alt costume.
The blades themselves range from "this is actually pretty neat" (Dagas, Percival, Adenine) to "this character is literally just tits and/ or ass" (Dahlia, Perun, Newt). Some of the latter are made up with actual character, but 80% of the blades are as shallow as their design.
So really XC1 would only win by "percentage of playable character that don't suck", rather than the actual number.
f83166 No.14391988
>>14391950
Why should I stick my hand into a fire before I declare that it's hot?
f83166 No.14392022
>>14391999
You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.
d2475a No.14392026
>>14387923
If you are in a constant speed running mode then the food and water aren't a issue. It is really annoing that you have to stock pile on meat at the beginning. Using the save and exit strat. Animals don't respawn over time. So you can explore little bit relaxed. Also the air tank drains relatively fast. So you can't Explore the dust area that much. Unless you use your hard earned kuban coins to refill your air tank. But the price goes every time up when you refill the tank for 20 units of air. Also the lack of checkpoints are very annoing. Die at the teleport defend mission, it is back to base camp before you went to that defend mission. You lose all the resources you gathered before that defend mission. I made some calculations and the food and water meter drains to 0 in 50min.
e0f660 No.14392036
>>14392022
His trips override your dubs
cd9e2b No.14392100
>>14391921
>game started at 5K average players average at launch
>up to almost 8 now
look like it just might survive
efc89f No.14392194
Honestly, I hope it's the most micro transaction filled game of all time. I hope they release an adapter for your PC so you can physically put quarters into the game to keep it running.
If you're still supporting Konami at this point then you deserve all of this
96ed33 No.14392272
>>14392045
"it's a fun game"
If it's anything like the open beta, it's trash. And I played a lot of the open beta, its fucked up controls, its shitty crafting and looting, its godawful "melee" combat, I hated every second of it and still came in first in every mp game I played and I'm not particularly good at MGSV
Absolute trash
96ed33 No.14392335
>>14392280
Yeah I can upgrade turds with undigested bits of corn too, anon
Unless they miraculously fixed how sloppy everything about the core gameplay was
cd9e2b No.14392460
>>14392335
things i don't like: floaty as fuck
things is do like: good games
by anon: age 28
dce0f2 No.14392489
>>14391937
>cuckchan file
What a surprise.
b3cbec No.14392502
>>14380562
Even if it's a pc game where you can backup your saves having limited save slots is still bullshit.
921c40 No.14392537
>>14391937
>I can play Metal Gear Solid V that looks better and plays almost the same but better without the shitty you need to drink and eat shit and can be played offline but I choose to buy a shitty stand alone always online expansion that charges for basic shit like save slots because I have genital warts growing in the inside of my skull.
a26697 No.14392590
>>14391132
Even thought the game is shit, it's still got the Metal Gear Name and the Fox Engine. And it's one of the few games you can make a military waifu.
And streamers love this sort of shit, 2nd pic related.
57fd18 No.14392625
>>14392489
that post deserves reddit gold!
edit: thank you strangers for reddit gold myself! xD i never thought this day would come! this is also my most upboated comment! xD
37ef59 No.14392718
>>14392590
>it's one of the few games you can make a military waifu.
Did anyone ever figure out a way to port your MGO custom characters into TPP?
I already made my women and would rather crawl around in Africa than play what looks like a slow, tedious zombie game.
7aaa4a No.14392724
>>14392026
> Animals don't respawn over time
They do.
Smoker makes the game easy as fuck because you have food that never spoils on top of grilled stuff/soups that takes fucking forever to spoil.
Also how do you get "kitchen leftovers" or something?
do you need spoiled stuff to just lay around for some time?
270k Kuban is easier to get than the left-overs for revival pills, not to mention some super rare stork and bear
fbe476 No.14393131
>>14392724
First food rots, then it turns into kitchen refuse.
6fdc25 No.14393169
>>14392036
And acting like a double nigger makes the value go to zero.
885171 No.14393240
>>14387878
I stand by the claim that MGR is the best Metal Gear game since MGS3.
3a5d6d No.14393260
>>14381470
>>14380230
I braved an expedition to 4chan and they're basically saying "buy this game because Kojima isn't in it", the faggotry is in full course and they're running a kojimadrone hate camp hard even though they aren't involved in it since Kojima's not in the picture.
There's a huge campaign going on and people are getting banned left and right for dissenting and pointing out that it's shit, claiming anyone that does is a Kojimadrone. It's a fucking hivemind over there.
885171 No.14393279
>>14393260
Nobody even likes Kojima anymore though, how could they even assume that?
3a5d6d No.14393290
>>14393279
doesn't matter, there's a huge samefag push over there, they've cracked 4chan's weaknesses that we patched with this site. Check yourself, it's madness. should still be first page.
539277 No.14393306
>>14393290
8chan doesn't have samefags?
7aaa4a No.14393310
>>14393131
>First food rots, then it turns into kitchen refuse.
Fuck, i just threw away every thing that spoiled.
Good to know.
dce0f2 No.14393405
>>14393290
>Check yourself
No, fuck off cuckchanner.
01cc97 No.14393647
>>14380230
>Metal Gear Survive Makes You Pay $10 for a New Save if You Don't Want to Delete Your Characters
How is this substantially any different than FFXI which made you pay $1 for each mule (up to a total of 15) and resource harvester per month - on top of charging you a subscription fee. Would anyone argue that having 15 characters worth of extra storage space and being to swap out easily between specced out and strategically placed resource miners wasn't a substantial advantage?
91c3ea No.14393747
>>14393647
Because nobody gave a shit about FF9 and because nobody fucking played it
885171 No.14393756
91c3ea No.14393785
e85ede No.14394024
>>14393260
If that's true? then they pretty good at it. I saw the player number at seven thousands on the steam community.
7aaa4a No.14394614
>Final boss is too autistic to understand the concept of death
>The Ending saves the series by going back in time and preventing nanomachines from being developed.
885171 No.14394623
>>14394614
It's almost like someone who actively despises kojima wrote that.
a26697 No.14394646
>>14393164
>Stop apologizing for the absolute worst kind of behavior the industry has to offer.
don't blame me, just blame idiots that play whatever streamers play.
3a5d6d No.14395088
>>14393306
Look at your ID retard.
c33d29 No.14395118
>>14395088
He was saying that anyone could just IP hop and samefag almost as easily.
64b3e7 No.14395210
>>14381584
I want to cuddle Raiden. <3
000000 No.14395359
>>14380563
>a game hated by SJW
what a shock!
how could this possibly happen?
so fellow vidya friends, why don't we all order kingdom cum delivery to support #BASED devs? :^)
t. not vavra
795bea No.14395371
>>14395118
Not only does that take more effort than most of them would bother with, but you're still limited with your samefagging by that option. If you change your computer's IP, you can no longer use the old IP, and, if you decide to use multiple devices, you're still limited to a small number of IDs. If you try samefagging on this board, you're either going to make it very obvious, or you're only going to look like a small group of idiots, rather than a large one.
c33d29 No.14395413
>>14395371
You know you can change IP by just using a vpn or proxy right? You don't have to use another device or reset your router.
399b02 No.14395425
>>14395210
is it still gay if he doesn't have a dick?
64b3e7 No.14395443
>>14395425
This question upsets me.
08fdb0 No.14397121
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SECRET MESSAGE IN OPENING CUTSCENE
e6ef93 No.14397149
>>14380893
>>14380874
The PC version still can't be played without 100% reproducible crashes.
11997f No.14397168
>>14380563
>things that aren't microtransactions aren't microtransactions
Their rage just makes me want to play Automata more.
918d73 No.14397195
>>14397149
I'm not positive what's worse, developers botching PC ports for nearly 15 years, or PC gamers unwillingness to recognize patterns that ports aren't getting better. I think the latter because it shows an absolute refusal to act with any sort of agency.
ac877d No.14397201
>>14397195
>I think the latter because it shows an absolute refusal to act with any sort of agency.
That's indicative of society as a whole, and now I will be banned for "political derail" for saying that.
9cfb5a No.14397246
Honestly, from what I've seen of my brother play the game, it looks alright. Food and thirst are overblown issues since it stops depleting for a good few minutes when you get them to 100% (similar to the spirit gauge in Monster Hunter, if that helps the system make sense) and as you play you get more and more resources so it becomes a non issue. Developing your base and increasing your stats and gear is nice too, reminds me of Peace Walker or V, but you can customize your base defenses and change your character's gear not a high bar but this game's more of a fucking RPG than Skyrim ever was, whoever decided to remove stats from TES deserves the death penalty. If Konami weren't turbo kikes and jewed up the game with microtransactions (they're on the same level as MGSV and MGO3's and they were just as shitty there) coupled with the godawful decision to give the game an expiration date thanks to the always-on DRM that adds fuck all to the game, it would be worth 20$ if you like the gameplay loop, 30$ if you're being generous. As it stands the jewish tricks are so fucking awful,especially the fact that it's gonna be Darkspore 2.0, that it completely ruins the game, only worth it if you can get it for free.
ac877d No.14397249
>>14397246
>gonna be Darkspore 2.0
>give the game an expiration date
Just pirate it.
9cfb5a No.14397279
>>14397249
That's the point, the always-on is so bad that Darkspore is literally unplayable because no one can be bothered to reverse engineer and host fully functional private servers for it. It's legit impossible to pirate it, and thus the game is pretty much lost forever. This will also happen to Survive.
c04feb No.14397435
>>14397279
I think this will happen a lot with this current push for always online games. Its the new hot shit and we will see quite a few games permanently lost as these shitfaced companies could not care less about their games after their lifetime.
ddb371 No.14397577
>>14391872
Dunkeyfags confirmed for goons. Gotcha.
1edb68 No.14397586
>>14380272
haaaa aaaaaaaaaaah and my hope will never dieeee
and as an added bonus you have to pay to play online on ps4.
yes i am a console fag because fuck steam
890290 No.14397596
Has Valve been delete negative reviews or is this just the current state of the steam userbase?
7ee012 No.14397603
>>14380274
>Kingdoms Come Deliverance has microtransactions
Since when?
c35e6b No.14397741
>>14397596
Valve is probably "temporarily filtering them" due to their review bomb detection algorithm assuming negative reviews at a games launch is a concerted effort
9444c6 No.14397751
>>14397596
Steam is over 60% chinks because of PUBG, of course that this is the current state of affairs over there.
cd9e2b No.14397958
>>14397246
>game has an expiration date because of drm
>not because of servers
this is your brain on consoles
01cc97 No.14397974
>>14397751
>Steam is over 60% chinks because of PUBG, of course that this is the current state of affairs over there.
This
(pic actually taken from a legit asian Steam account)
7877f7 No.14398483
>>14397958
What are you, retarded? I meant DRM as in the online servers you dumb motherfucker, they serve no purpose outside of preventing you from playing when you're offline, it's literally DRM that puts an expiration date.
e9b9bb No.14400399
Okay so if I can look past the microtransactions and obvious "this isn't actually a Metal Gear game, they just put that there to move units" shit is it a moderately enjoyable game in the end?
A simple "Probably" or "Definitely not" will do.
7da34b No.14400493
>>14380274
top kike m8
1 shekel for you
fbe476 No.14400637
fe0792 No.14406926
>>14397246
>>14397249
>>14397279
You can't pirate darkspore because the files for the game are hosted remotely and streamed to your client. It seems Metal Gear Survive doesn't do that and the always-online requirement is just another DRM scheme. You can torrent the game, but apparently it hasn't been cracked yet, and there's no guarantee it ever will be a-la Diablo 3.
016565 No.14407080
>>14395210
That's a very lewd looking Nanachi. What's going on there?
c33d29 No.14407084
>>14407080
It's from the manga, she's just eating food.
aedaab No.14407137
>>14407080
>>14407084
She is used to just slapping stuff together into a barely edible goo, then she meets one of the other main characters who is a master cook.
aedaab No.14407203
>>14400399
Don't have first hand experience but couple of youtubers have highlighted how you can climb on rock and poke zombies, that are unable to climb, until they die.
cd9e2b No.14407244
>>14407203
then you meet the ones that can mortar you and the other ones that jump to you and kick your face in. i mean you can cheese the game like that but then its kind of your own fault for doing it. it'd be like complaining that manus in dark souls was a tedious and boring fight because you cheesed him with 300 arrows
fbe476 No.14407720
>>14407203
The only time combat is mandatory is for defense missions where zombies are attracted to a teleporter or a digger and are coming from multiple directions, so that's useless because you'll only be able to lure a fraction of them to a ledge and you'd waste time leading them. It's useless for grinding for energy too because the energy you get from zombies stops being significant after level 10 and if you don't backstab and fulton them you get less and it takes a lot longer.