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Fuck off, they're simple games. Stop trying to be cool.

>>14310104

> -You see some stairs leading to a roguelike thread

> ->

< Roguelike thread

< text adventure prompt

anyway, I hit > like a motherfucker and descend them stairs. I don't even equip anything, cos I'm gonna kill the first thing I see with my bear hands and then skin it and wear it as a dress.

I recently started playing some cheap and relatively rubbish roguelike on Switch called Dragon Fang and the Dungeon of Time or some shit. It has an interesting hook in the way abilities are collected and used but it's kinda shitty.

I'm really hankering for a Shiren the Wanderer on Switch though.

One day I will beat Nethack. One day…

>>14310166

If I wanted to brag I would have made a bunch of shit up instead of mentioning a coffee break game and a fucking 7DRL anon

Say what you want about the devs stupid decisions, but i still think Cataclysm:DDA is one of the better roguelike games out there.

Why is the shotgun build so OP in DoomRL?

It almost makes me not want to play anything else because it's so much fun stomping the shit out of demons.

>>14310699

From what I've heard from anons here, DDA is poorly balanced and anything fun is immediately nerfed because people "overuse it".

>>14310104

i wipe my ass by shoving the toilet paper under my dick and wiping my ass while sitting

>>14310720

a vampire chainsaw build is super fun, and then you can just upgrade to the lance of Longinus and skewer the mastermind with ease

>>14310166

kill yourself

>>14310699

Aside from fursuits, gimp character classes, and dildo weapons for instance, the devs seem to like autistic levels of overmanagement and realism.

In one instance they added vitamins to your food needs, which made things a gigantic pain in the ass since varied foods are scarce, being the apocalypse and all.

They had to add a multivitamin item, just to balance that crap out.

Also in a relatively recent build they made painkillers mandatory for installing bionics. Which while it is reasonable since you are basically doing surgery on yourself, it still ends up annoying, since you cant dope up on low level painkillers from town, and have to hope to find a hospital that spawed some appropriate drugs. And then wait a couple of in game hours for the damn things to actually kick in.

Pretty sure the also nerfed solar panels, since fuck you for wanting renewable resources as a viable backup.

>>14311832

Don't forget a while back needing to clean clothes from zombies or else suffer a huge morale penalty.

I don't go to their forums but apparently the main dev is a giant faggot.

>>14311845

do you have to clean the fursuits too?

>>14311926

You should be burning all fursuits, Talmuds, and Qurans you come across anyway.

Y'all niggers ever play dungeon crawl stone soup? I enjoy it personally but its really the only rougelike I've played so if it's shit compared to other games I wouldn't really know.

>>14312074

Crawl is great, but I wish the devs were less focused on removing stuff with every update

>>14310104

>what are you playing

currently Broguetho' I did play doomrl and hyperrogue a little bit few days ago.

What are some roguelikes with good build making?

>>14312097

Yeah, though I've been enjoying how all foods have been combined into rations now.

>>14310809

It doesn't work in higher difficulties, since demons can snipe you with 100% accuracy before you get close to them.

And the fucking revenants+mancubus can and WILL fuck your shit up with rockets, pushing you back if you ever try to move forward.

Sadly, shotguns are the way in DoomRL, because you can wait in a corner, shoot demons around it, and push them back, making them unable to hit you.

Random revenant snipers/mancubus/arch-viles will still fuck you up.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/628770/Tangledeep/

This any good? The soundtrack is good so far but I need to listen to it more.

>>14312174

I have no idea how beating harder difficulties was supposed to be possible when cornershooting was officially a bug. Since it was adopted as a part of the game the whole thing feels balanced around it (although "balanced" is probably too strong a word given how much it skews gameplay).

>>14312167

I'm glad I stopped playing DCSS. One of the only big roguelikes I've legitimately beaten (15 rune, twice), and it often felt like an unmotivating slog even back then. I can hardly imagine what it'd be like with even less variation.

One thing about Brogue I kinda dislike is that I can spam auto-explore almost mindlessly for first three levels and not worry about dying(well, admittely in case of depth 3, it depends bit on layout). Like only way to die on depth 1 is by very bad luck

>>14312218

You can't do it without cornershooting, since the enemies have a better LOS than you, in fact, most of my runs end in three ways:

>Sniped by Chaingunners/Arachnodrones/Plasma Commandos when I open a door.

>Pushed against a wall by Revenants/Mancubi/Arch-viles and being unable to fight back because I can't see from where they are shooting.

>Fucker shoots a random barrel.

The third is not related to LOS, but it's fucking infuriating.

>>14312325

They don't technically have a better LOS, but their turns are after yours, so if you step into vision they'll always have the first shot and probably push you back anyway Mancubi are a special case, they'll keep blindfiring at you even if you get pushed out of view. You have to spend absurd amounts of turns waiting for them to come into view on their own. You can kinda predict where enemies will be since their pathing will always naturally trend towards the middle of the map. Even knowing that, it's still tedious and not really practical at all without shotgun radar.

I just started Elona, I know there's a separate thread but I figured I'd mention it.

>>14312174

Ammochain fucks shit up once you get a plasma gun, I turned Angel of 100 into mincemeat by just chainfiring every time I stepped into a room. Eagle eye also works great with rapidfire weapons, especially since you can get intuition with it too. Pistols are also fantastic, once they deal enough damage they'll start knocking back enemies with each shot, and you can kill everything in like half a second with very little cost. Shotguns just take a lot less investment to be useful compared to most weapons, but they get less effective later in the game.

>>14310166

>Fuck off, they're simple games. Stop trying to be cool.

This nigger has never beat a RL to the point he'd have to google YAAP, and then lie about that too.

>>14312895

The levels on Dredmore take so long to clear, I generally run out of energy for the game before floor 4

>>14312913

If I recall correctly there was an option for smaller dungeons

Is there a cowboy/western roguelike?

>>14312895

I really liked this game when it first came out. I remember though that rl generals on half Chan there after really hated it, almost as bad as the hate for banjo kazooie n&b. I liked it a lot though because it was like a characature on the roguelike genre with endless and often unnecessary variety of items of all type you can tell that there was a lot of effort put in.

>>14310699

CDDA was opened up to the community years ago after the guy who created it stopped developing it. The main, major fork of what CDDA has become has been developed since then mainly by a central dev (pretty sure his name is Kevin something). He has this ridiculous obsession with trying to make anything and everything realistic, which sounds fine in theory but in reality makes shit horrendously fucking tedious and stupid.

>>14311845

And going off of this, I had the misfortune of getting curious enough one day while reading about various development features to be potentially added, that I stumbled onto a few old posts and conversations on github and plebbit. These old posts involved Kevin and a few other would be contributors to the code here and there. Long story short, Kevin is a horrible, horrendous fucking faggot; not in the annoying flaming homo kind of way, it's just that he's a massively autistic, egotistical, self centered asshole who REEEEEES and throws a giant fit anytime someone says or does anything he doesn't want with his fork. He's overly serious, overly sensitive, is crotchety and grumpy constantly, hates fun things, and overall attempts to act like an ironfisted dictator about CDDA to the point of being abusive and temperamental. If people paid more attention to the shit he does, he'd be a lolcow.

The only reason anyone puts up with him is because he keeps his nose to the grindstone developing code nobody else wants to do. That his fork has become the mainstay and lifeblood of what CDDA is today has given him a huge ego and he's a prick all the time because of it.

>>14312996

It's a fine game for screwing around with skill/item combinations and character building. But it has a critical flaw in that while you can come up with quite a lot of fun shit that works for most of the game, much of it is practically incapable of getting past certain floors let alone winning. And it's repetitive and kinda buggy, but not ruiningly so.

>>14312215

Just played some of it. It's one of those roguelikes where there's some progression between runs, in that you can transfer over items and "town progress" to new characters. (Though that is optional)

The graphics are extremely cute, there are multiple classes and some of the abilities are pretty fun, though a few feel kinda lazy.

The minimum resolution is 1280x720, which is awful for toaster users like me who want to play a RL while they watch something, can't forget to say that.

Will play more and report back

>>14312895

there's some stupid shit you can do like equipping two shields and using unarmed shit since shields aren't weapons, but the crap performance of the game make me stop playing often

>>14312146

goddammit lost my character due to stupid mistake involving caustic gas trap and staff of obstruction

Is there any rougelike that lets me hoard a harem of waifus?

>>14312895

>>14312215

it's give or take the same shit you'd see in any other one of it's kind,the one time it does try to do something different with the enchanting system it still comes up just short.Frankly i'm only a few hours in so far and it's got jack shit on Elona and even Dredmor manages to do the whole meat&potatoes,which is the dungeon crawling, better than it

>>14312895

This isn't roguelike because it's not ASCII

t. roguelike pro

>>14315168

>t.roguelike pro

that's enough for anyone to ingore anything you say past this point

>>14314640

I guess that must be a Trigun bug because it's not supposed to work like that. I'm sure I've nuked JC in the past and not had any problems.

>>14314640

>>14315194

Actually it can't be the Trigun since I have a mortem where I did the same thing you did but got the full victory. Maybe you killed yourself with the angel arm activation cost? Is that even possible?

>>14314640

now I have to play until I find that thing

>>14315202

I definitely didn't kill myself, because I was at about half HP in that one turn after the level got destroyed.

>>14315172

did he not lay on the sarcastic irony thick enough for you?

>>14315703

Yeah, but I'm not sure if the pencentage changes when you use angel arm or not. It might be worth checking the mortem to see what your real HP was on the last turn. Undoubtedly the game's fucked up somehow but I don't understand why it would.

>>14310789

>Not using the superior urine-bidet

It's like you're not even trying

>>14322638

>Dungeon Hack

Post?

>>14325189

You're a cuck.

>>14312895

Sorry for blogposting, but for fuck's sake, I cannot make it past the 2nd floor anymore. I used to get quite far in this game, but now it's like every time I get gangraped by some shit like five diggles jumping out of the ground and surrounding me. And I have no instant healing potions, no wands that would do enough damage and food doesn't regenerate as fast as the diggles hurt me.

>>14329163

Why the fuck would you read a book about video games?

>>14312944

>>14329660

I think some anons were actually working on that around 2016 or so, if I remember right.

>>14329660

is there a CDDA version that goes beyond the 0.c build?

>>14329870

Yeah they were but just like nigs in SS13 people wanted to add bloat or there own great OC DONUT STEAL

I really don't mind the older versions of the game, I tried to make a mod that made all zombies have fur suits so you were killing zombie furry's but I am a half assed nigga.

>>14329963

The if you want a 'stable build' then no, all the new shit is on the experimental versions.

>>14329660

>>14329870

>>14329975

all I remember was Remove Dildoes tbh

>>14329963

get the cdda launcher, its an SVN type thing that updated your game every day

>>14311999

Not to mention Tenachs, Gospels, and Vedas. All but the Avesta is heresy. Someone should make a Zoroastrian game. Kill cats to restore your salvation bar, prostrate before fire to improve your faith stat.

>>14315162

Elona is decent but the start is so horribly slow it makes me drop the game almost always

>>14329684

>Why the fuck would you read a book about video games?

Why the fuck do you care?

I've been trying out the new version of Stone Soup, and I'm playing lots of Demonspawn. Did they change the demon mutations to benefit you based on your background? I'm consistently getting useful mutations for these guys, and I love it.

>>14331028

play rogue

>>14331028

I think brogue would be good game for beginner

>>14331028

Brogue is pretty good. It's simple but engaging and the tileset is great.

>>14331108

Stop reading my mind.

>>14331111

sorry;_;

>>14331108

This seems alright, the UI isn't a clusterfuck and looks quite nice as well. I notice when I press S to search nothing seems to happen, so I take it I'll only be notified if I find something? Should I just press it once in each room I explore?

>>14331766

well, usually secret doors(and traps) are rather obvious and they usually appear after one or two presses(i've very rarely required more than three). altho' in case of multiple traps in same room, you do need to press multiple times to reveal them all. as for pressing s in every room once, I guess there's no harmn in it. I personally start searching when I can't find way forward, or there's an obvious secret door, or I want to find all the traps in the room. Also, I think there's some sort of passive search or something, because you can discover traps and secret doors even without pressing the s.

>>14312154

Cataclysm: DDA (choose starting stats, traits and skills)

Caves of Qud (choose starting stats, class and mutations)

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup (choose from varied list of class and race)

Tales of Maj'Eyal (choose starting class, race, stats and abilities)

Bonus: Dwarf Fortress adventure mode

In DDA, what are the odds that a car will be functional without any repairs? I'm learning the game and I haven't gotten a car yet, but I just watched vid related and this guy just stumbles on a fully functional car within 10 minutes.

>>14335920

sometimes youll have a working order armored truck outside the house you spawn in, which happened to me on my current char, sometimes you wont find a working car for an hour of play

Id say one in 20 is drivable, but that includes punctured or empty gas tanks, missing a wheel or two etc

if you want to bring up your mechanics skill quickly from 0 to at least 2, find or craft a soldering iron and just dry repair random plastic shit like cash cards

>Get ye flask

>>14322638

Modern Angband has nothing to do with the original creator, and has received quite a few updates and improvements.

>>14335920

who /elona+/ here

>>14340982

>says don't use that tileset, use this one instead

>doesn't say which one

>>14339797

I once died on turn 8 in Nethack.

>>14341170

its not like its packaged with the fucking game or anything

I bet your faggot ass didnt know theres an isometric mode in the game too

>>14341351

It being packaged with the game doesn't tell me which one it is.

>>14315707

nah, he's just a roguelike pro,

>CDDA

What's the latest, non-trash version?

I enjoyed the stable 0.C until I found out I was running an outdated version, migrated to the experimental, deleted the stable, then regretted everything.

Also is Coolthulhu's slightly outdated fork any better than the current main experimental version?

>>14341830

I havent tried bright nights yet but theres optional blacklists packaged in for all significant changes since 0.C

>>14341868

>but theres optional blacklists packaged in for all significant changes since 0.C

No there's not. There's an endless amount of bullshit they have done since 0.C that has ruined the game and is not available to be removed as a mod.

>>14341896

for example?

How is Caves of Qud?

>>14341904

vehicle construction fuckery like engine loads

bloated item pool with a whole bunch of redundant garbage like 50 million different tops, 50 million different hats, etc

nerfed books

Just off the top of my head.

>>14341971

>engine loads

what about them changed

>bloated item pool

thats a DDA inherent thing

>nerfed books

how

I legit dont know as I wasnt following development most of the time

I know throwing was changed somehow but I never used throwing so I wouldnt know

>>14341997

>dildoes

again, DDA inherent thing

Does anyone here have access to the Jupiter Hell pre-alpha? I'd like to see if my toaster can handle it.

I don't know what it is about these games, they're so simple and primitive, but by god are they fun.

Does anybody have any idea why they're such enjoyable games?

>>14342587

They're the exact opposite of AAA sandboxes. Games like GTA & TES are a mile wide and an inch deep. Roguelikes are an inch wide and a mile deep.

>>14310104

UnRealWorld is fun.

>>14342053

>what about them changed

Car engines now have a maximum load they can carry, which can so broken that if you overload the car by a few tens or hundreds of lbs/kg the car refuses to start. This is highly unrealistic. I've seen a straight 4-cyl Lada engine carry over 1-2 extra tons of weight. That, and often if there's something else wrong with the car it'll bitch about carry weight.

>thats a DDA inherent thing

Still doesn't warrant having to bloat the item spawn lists with so many redundant items. I want useful items to spawn in my world not just different colored straw fedoras.

Haven't played enough of the experimental to know how they nerfed books. Skill erosion was already a bullshit mechanism Kev clings to like magnet.

>>14310104

This reminds me of that first person doom roguelike only on ios. I really wish I could play that shit.

>>14341915

I like it but it suffers from the same problems of other "open world" or overworld roguelikes such as ToME. There's just too much repetition in story, world, quests, and travelling for a roguelike. The setting and faction are unique but it would just work better for an adventure game. Character progression is really good though. Good verity in builds through abilities, equipment en skills.

>>14343552

Resurrection? Because the other two Doom RPGs (& the Wolfenstein one) run on practically everything, including Java that you can emulate on a PC.

>>14343530

eh, I dont mind the engine shit since I can just slap more engines in, and dildo bloat was in the game since DDA came to be, I just cut down the useless shit to rags and move on

>skill erosion

skill rust has been disabled for me across literally thousands of builds

Im not sure if I disabled it manually at some point or if its disabled by default but theres that

>>14339788

Brogue is as streamlined and simple as a RL can get without being boring or unchallenging. I've ascended a couple times on it. There are weekly (and sometimes daily) seed challenges posted by the small community at plebbit.

>>14340243

> because I always end up attracting a horde

If you're new to CDDA it makes more sense to turn off "wandering hordes" in the world setup options. With that off, the only zombies that exist are those placed their upon world generation. They don't respawn after you kill them, and zombies don't wander from area to area aside from a very small range. Once you clear an area, it's cleared. This makes it very easy and pretty boring later on, but for your first time, learning and understanding what you're doing and how everything works is more important than struggling to deal with wandering hordes.

With said hordes turned on, you need to check your map constantly to see where they are. Wandering hordes are actually randomly wandering spawn points that only begin spawning in zombies when they get close enough to your current location; they can be a mix of easy to deal with low level mobs (which is still dangerous early game) or a horrifying amalgamation of shit that makes you want to run and scream. Wandering hordes can turn an uneventful and dull situation into a deadly one very fucking quickly, so I don't recommend trying to deal with them on your first playthrough.

>>14341401

This looks exactly like the tileset I used when I last played but it didn't have those other icons, the dead mobs looked different and there wasn't any kind of art for whatever that is in the bottom right of the first screenshot. What's the name of the tileset? Is it a different one or did the artist update it?

>>14345234

>its one of the packaged tilesets

Huh. Not when I played, I had to manually install it. It also wasn't isometric, either, unless there's a tileset that uses those tiles and makes it iso as well. I wouldn't want to play with iso either, going up and to the right when I press 5 is just disorienting for me.

Also, that moose should not be an M, it should have its own icon, because I know when I used that tileset it did. Aaaaand…

>using Krav Maga

>a fucking fabricated mashup of martial arts slapped together by israeli jews

oy fucking vey. To your credit those may not be your own screenshots but still. Idk if CDDA has Muay Thai but that's be a far better bet. Leave it to Kev to put in something to fucking gay, though.

>>14345384

I know why you would use it mechanically, I'm ribbing you for it because in real life it's a stupid made up martial arts kikes invented in israel in an attempt to make the world think they're more srs bidness than they actually are. It's a stupid meme and a stupid meme only, is my point, I'm not actually saying anything about it in reference to the game mechanics.

Like I said, of all martial arts to put in the game/make good enough for a meta, of course Kev is going to make it be the one that's the least legitimate and realistic. Ironic. At risk of getting too offtopic here though

>>14345510

>Actually, they do.

Right right, but [s]mashing in their skulls when they're downed is just so second nature after you become a non-noob CDDA player that you don't even think about it anymore. I even forgot that you had to do that just because I always do it. I also think that there's some option in the game itself that has you automatically pulp the corpse when you walk over it, but depending on your outlook of the mechanic that can either be good by reducing tedium for something you'd do anyway or bad because it ensures you never have a lapse of memory or judgement and accidentally overlook one of the corpses which will give you a surprise later.