6838f2 No.14287632
So if I have this right, these niggers make shitty revamps of Bioware games with SJ shit included, then take down the original version and put up their version for the price of a new game?
8b9d3a No.14287645
>>14287632
Of course, why would you want the old racist sexist version with "worse graphics".
Coming soon to Beamdog, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines by Beamdog.
7b924c No.14287650
>>14287609
It's not new dumbfuck, it's an old Bioware Premium module; you can just download it for free with regular NWN.
8b9d3a No.14287661
>>14287650
>Coming soon This item is not yet available.
>DEVELOPER:
>Beamdog
>PUBLISHER:
>Beamdog
I can't wait to see what enhancements they made to the game.
566b4c No.14288062
>>14287661
>New game
>made in 2009 by bioware
http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Neverwinter_Nights:_Pirates_of_the_Sword_Coast
op it helps if you actually know what you are talking about
8b9d3a No.14288097
>>14288062
>Another Beamdog Original content Do not steal
It helps if you don't have autism so you can detect obvious sarcasm.
f92bfb No.14288116
>>14288062
Are you legit mentally impaired?
605b53 No.14288119
>>14288062
Holy shit. Learn to fucking read retard.
db313f No.14288127
How desperate do you have to be to do this? No one cared about Biomeme's modules before, no one is going to care now
e84623 No.14288131
This shit has been on Steam for quite some time. It's nothing new.
8b9d3a No.14288140
>>14288127
>>14288131
I only just found out while browsing steam. And I wanted an excuse to post Beamdog memes.
cf557f No.14288142
>>14288127
They like to go after easy targets first that way when an actually famous game is on the chopping block they can use the "but it's the norm now ;)))" defense.
5a7f79 No.14288206
>>14287632
Pretty much, except you forgot the tons of all fresh new extra bugs they introduce. It's like that "You made this? I made this." meme, but in real life.
3f7c0b No.14288241
>>14287609
Why are Beamdog allowed to do this?
Aren't they taking away profits from Bioware?
3bacf8 No.14288247
>>14287661
You can follow ever irrelevant but easy "improvement" they make on their vlog. It's funny how they talk endlessly yet nothing actually changes with the game. You can bet your ass that NWN EE will be worse than the original.
62e217 No.14288254
>>14288241
be silent, it's the politically correct way
d5ec02 No.14288284
>>14288247
Barely anyone likes NWN's OC, if they somehow made it worse it wouldn't sell at all.
Thankfully, they probably won't be touching NWN2.
8b9d3a No.14288299
>>14288284
>Implying Josh "Fun is for Grognards" Sawyer won't give them NWN2 willingly
3bacf8 No.14288358
>>14288284
Fairly certain they will work on Undrentide and Underdark as well.
a74141 No.14288381
>>14287609
Fucking parasites.
6c3b01 No.14288702
>>14288284
People bought NWN for the custom modules and multiplayer (and to a lesser extent the expansions). It would be very easy for them to fuck those up by breaking compatibility with old mods or something.
fdf34e No.14288749
>Don't even do anything to improve the graphics
>Bog the game down with countless bugs the original didn't have
>Make some changes to the UI, change some ~problematic~ writing and say they're done
>Original runs fine on modern hardware and can be modded to shit but forget that, 20 bucks please
Fuck Beamdog. So much.
0e5778 No.14288755
0e5778 No.14288757
>>14288749
>change some ~problematic~ writing and say they're done
b128b8 No.14288960
>>14288757
>Desu Sex fan defends SJW's censorship
>implicitly buys abandonware form Polish Jews
typical
b4f213 No.14288982
>>14288757
WHASSUP NIGGER
http://archive.is/F0043 (http://nichegamer.com/2016/04/03/beamdog-addresses-problematic-content-baldurs-gate/)
0958ed No.14289008
>>14287609
Holy shit are they actually going to sell the modules again?
At least with the IE games they gave you the game + expansions.
6252f7 No.14289047
>>14287609
GoG will be soon taking down the official COMPLETE versions of BG and IceWind Dale soon. Get/Pirate them well you can.
3f7c0b No.14289056
>>14288757
>Deus Ex maymay
>Sees nothing wrong with censorship and propaganda
Like pottery.
c7b764 No.14289064
>>14288749
I feel the same about Nightfuck or whatever they're called. GOG started a bad bad trend.
7bf13e No.14289073
>try to look up an original game of theirs to compare
>there is none
holy fuck
c7b764 No.14289089
>>14289073
You wouldn't want it off Steam anyhow. The majority of older shit is broken and you'd be better off with an .iso, patches and PCGamingWiki. Oh no, look at all of that five minutes it took.
b4f213 No.14289090
>>14289073
Yeah, all they do is make shitty "enhanced editions" of old CRPGS with extra poz xDDD
3f7c0b No.14289092
>>14289073
Jesus Christ, those damn kikes.
20 Dollery-doos is far too much for games that old.
Do yourselves a favour and buy from GOG or pirate the GOG game while you have GOG Galaxy installed and it will permanently add the game to your account free of charge and able to download whenever you want.
c29bcf No.14289096
>>14289056
I think he's right though have beamdog changed/censored any of the actual content in the games. I know they made new expansions that ruined shit. However have they touched any of the base games? I'm legitimately asking I haven't heard of this happening but I would not be surprised if it did happen.
c7b764 No.14289103
Correction: The majority of older shit on Steam is broken. I remember considering a few older things that were one burgerbuck in the past, just to have another backup but occasionally you see reviews about just data missing. Some publishers just shovel that shit worse than indies.
3f7c0b No.14289113
>>14289092
I'm a retard, it's Euros not Dollars.
Still too much though.
>>14289089
Steams Warlord Battlecry 3 is fucked because it uses the fanpatch instead of the last official version.
>>14289096
I'm just being an asshole to him.
If you google the topic you'll get quite a few 30min rant videos and shit as well as drivel written by Kotaku and co.
They have added in a load of dogshit stuff tbh
>>14289103
GOG is the best for old vidya.
c7b764 No.14289154
>>14289113
No. Having a fucking CD, patches and some basic fucking research skills is your best option. It's rare something has to be thoroughly unfucked unless in a few cases. The only thing I have run into that was a proper enhanced edition so far was Outcast 1.1. Arx Fatalis coming in second but that's not even fair to Outcast. Maybe Saints Row 2, but that's fairly fucked still no matter which way you kick it..
3f7c0b No.14289155
>>14289154
I've not had any problems with GOG.
While having the CD is nice, they're not exactly common.
c7b764 No.14289162
>>14289155
CD/.iso, stop quibbling. If you want to buy shit you never owned, fine. But you're not in deep enough. Just check the community forums for numerous games on GOG.
b0aed5 No.14289181
>>14289162
If you're using an .iso, what's the difference from just using a gog version?
fe6969 No.14289217
Beamdog: where failed devs go to die
c1f146 No.14289228
>>14288982
>"Safana was just a sex object in BG 1, and Jaheira was the nagging wife and that was played for comedy. We were able to say, ‘No, that’s not really the kind of story we want to make."
>writer Amber Scott
1 - a game that was completed over a decade ago doesn't need a writer. This woman shouldn't have a job.
2 - IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING STORY TO TELL, BITCH. IT WAS BIOWARE'S. This is exactly how shitty localizers like 8-4 or Treehouse defend rewriting everything in a game. Fates wasn't Treehouse's game to ruin, and Baldur's Gate/NWN weren't Beamdog's.
6252f7 No.14289254
>>14289155
>>14289162
>>14289154
>>14289113
GoG installers are pretty good for older games. Their selection is limited. I actually have the whole GoG catalog on a external drive. My only gripe with them is that they do not give a shit about the Japanese market unless it is pozzed, they cater to very VERY Pc/"safe" games and developers. The other option is Steam, which I know is the bigger of evils but its all PC games have right now if you actually want to "buy" a game. Kingdom Come Deliverance will be the first time I have given money to steam in over 3 years. (I got a 50$ gift card from a family memeber, so I only have to give 20$)
169eac No.14289282
>>14289047
I think they already took them down and you have to get the EEs for both to get a copy of the originals.
6252f7 No.14289286
>>14289282
I am trying to find the announcement/article were they said they were doing so.
c7b764 No.14289298
>>14289181
I already have the .ISOs/CDs. That's what I'm saying. Most of the patches have been foldered away. If you're going to not want to go though that basic work and never owned the damn thing before, fine. Still, in a lot of cases, out of date patches or for DOS stuff, shitty versions of DOSBox. That sort of crap that I'd rather not pay to unfuck for myself.
041b7b No.14289312
>>14287632
Torment was not a bioware game
c7b764 No.14289332
>>14289254
I'm not going to climb up your ass about it, long as you aren't pre-ordering like a dingdong. I have a bunch of old GOG installers from UG and still prefer doing it myself in most cases. Community patch stuff gets outdated or it gets worse perhaps.
84017d No.14289359
>>14289073
Imagine how the original writers/devs felt seeing all their legacy violated repeatedly by sjwism.
802f11 No.14289370
>>14287609
I want to like the picture in the OP but Bioware has never made a good game so it doesn't really make sense.
3f7c0b No.14289376
>>14289228
Anon, you don't understand…
They have to change the game and put their stories/characters in.
b8d301 No.14289450
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
What do you mean, Fellow Gamers? Games were always a politically correct space.
b4f213 No.14289479
>>14289450
>Games were always a politically correct space.
crush a can on your forehead for Jay Owen
cfc61e No.14289523
It's gonna be another dumpster fire.
fc0219 No.14289527
>>14289376
That's the exact point that anon what trying to say, nobody likes a copy and paste fuckwit. many academic frown upon students who copy others notes and try to make there own in the most hack and horrible way possible. Kind of the reason that Mass Effect Andromeda and Halo 5 failed. they were poorly written and tried to copy there successful predecessor.
it that or the way it was made, namely the animation in ME part or the unnecessary updates on the multiplayer on Halo5
8b9d3a No.14290637
>>14289370
Bioware makes incomplete games that has potential but something is missing. Beamdog fills in those gaps with the blandest content possible and tries to pass it off as art.
Should have used Black Isle but I made this way before Torment EE.
802f11 No.14291117
>>14290637
They make fundamentally flawed shitheaps, none of their games have had any potential.
>Overall plot
It's always formulaic hero rises to their destiny of defeating the impending evil threat
>Setting
Generic shit ripped off of other properties or fantasy/sci-fi tropes, somewhat excluding Jade Empire (not that the setting was particularly well done, though)
>Dialogue writing
Either film industry reject-tier or autistic DM-tier depending on whether the game was made after KotOR or before.
>Dialogue mechanics
"Meaningful choices and consequences" in dialogue are not only rare, but they are always obvious and binary, you spend a good portion of these games in dialogue yet the dialogue boils down to nice/angry/cheeky, this is so consistent that they could have saved you the time and let you choose one style in character creation and never give you a single dialogue option.
An analogy I heard once is imagine a racing game where every couple seconds a prompt would pop up that says:
"Would you like to drive on the left side, the right side, or the center?"
And you'd choose one of those three options, it's impossible to crash or lose the race and the options only matter so you can show how much of a left-side or right-side driver you are. This game would be absolutely awful and everyone would shit on it, even gayme journalists, yet somehow dialogue gets a free pass because noone's willing to do something like dialogue in The Sims. This is a problem that goes well beyond Bioware's games and permeates nearly every RPG, but it's particularly present in their games.
>gameplay pre-KotOR
An unbalanced mess making every combat encounter either a slog or a brick wall depending on your build.
>gameplay post-KotOR
Technically still has lots of numbers but they're meaningless since there's no build variety; you choose between a tiny number of classes and maybe have a couple different ability choices within a class, but the entire thing just boils down to warrior/rogue/mage.
>music/art
Uninspired, it's not incompetent but the aesthetics are never anything noteworthy.
8b9d3a No.14291355
>>14291117
Alright, how about this analogy then.
Bioware made old games that are now showing their age and have features missing in comparison to modern games.
Beamdog attempts to modernize it while wiping away all it's "problematic" qualities.
908044 No.14291382
Stupid question, is the GOG NWN fucked with or no? I heard it was at some point somewhere.
169eac No.14291519
>>14291382
The regular version hasn't really been fucked with outside of GOG giving everyone unique keys so you can finally play multiplayer with the GOG version.
069bdd No.14291731
>>14291382
At one point, they also gave the game for free.
9493cf No.14291789
>>14291315
>Know character for 5 seconds
>Here have my entire backstory and the writer's agenda
a9c0e3 No.14291797
>>14291789
This is sub fanfiction tier.
How do writers this bad get jobs?
9493cf No.14291813
>>14291797
Nepotism, how else?
d1a4cf No.14291821
>>14291797
that's not even the best part. when people on the steam forums started saying "this is retarded" beamdog started banning people wholesale, asked on their own forums for people to make positive reviews to counteract the negatives, and made a statement that basically boiled down to "if you don't like our game you're a bigot". after like twenty people made new threads on the forums saying "no, nobody hates that the character is trans, they hate that they just blurt out their sexual identity to a complete stranger on the street" they finally patched the character out
a9c0e3 No.14291831
>>14291821
Jesus fucking Christ.
8b9d3a No.14292255
>>14291831
And the worst part, this is only one character. There's a whole expansion full of Social Justice to go through, filled with Stong Independent Women.
80a3dc No.14292293
>>14291797
Leftists are Jewish golems and basically behave like Jews, which boils down to hiring their own kind regardless of competence or qualification.
e141a5 No.14292315
>>14292255
Making minsc into a puppet to spew sjw one liners is the absolute most unforgivable sin in my view.
80a3dc No.14292320
>>14291117
>this is so consistent that they could have saved you the time and let you choose one style in character creation and never give you a single dialogue option
That's basically ME. The good option is always on top, the bad option is always on the bottom, the neutral/"I want to know more" option is always in the middle. ME is when they started color coding that shit so the subhumans that think BioWare makes good games wouldn't get confused.
>>14292315
It's all fucking garbage. Beamdog are a bunch of emotionally retarded manchildren smearing their shit encrusted hands on top of someone else's work. At least back when BioWare was making NWN they had the good grace to pretend the game wasn't being made for the sikrit "let's castrate all men" club over at rpg.net.
168a4e No.14292324
I bought the "enhanced" edition of BG on gog a year ago and finally decided to play it. Am I safe from the SJW bullshit if I skip Siege of Dragonspear or have they changed the original campaign too?
80a3dc No.14292326
>>14292324
Why in God's name did you buy something you know is made by a leftist dev team? Do you enjoy getting molested by Jews?
a6bacc No.14292333
>>14292315
They actually removed that line from Minsc in a patch but damn if that didn't piss me off when I find out it was real.
168a4e No.14292339
>>14292326
Back then I didn't really know and care about beamdog's polititical orientation. It only cost 5$ or something, so I thought it would be easier than having to look for a torrent and then patch the old version.
80a3dc No.14292343
>>14292339
Fair enough. As for your original question, yes, you can scrape off most (if not all) of the pozz if you skip installing Siege of Dragonspear.
bc6348 No.14293571
>>14292324
It's mostly okay. The additional characters they added are terrible, but not to the degree siege of dragonspear was since they were building on another game rather than making their own soapbox. As for characters they added a gay orc blackguard that will do the bioware thing where they will insist on pozzing your neghole and get upset when you decline. The other majorly awful one was a pink-haired wild mage who's a strong, independent womyn with a obnoxious personality and will cuck you if you try to pursue a relationship with her, more than once if you play BG2 with her as well. The monk they added is actually a pretty bro character so the one guy they must have had coding this shit was probably the guy who made him. They made a drow sorcerer too but I never touched him so I have no idea what his malfunction is. In BG2 they also add the biggest bullshit bait and switch companion which starts out as a confused black-haired qt, but really that's a ruse because the real character is a female count blacula who is also overpowered as hell.
If you can ignore the retarded companions however, the rest is mostly unchanged.
4dfd6b No.14294320
>>14288241
Half of them are either related to bioware employees, ex bioware or both
23b8e0 No.14294338
>>14289527
>That's the exact point that anon what trying to say
I know, I was being sarcastic.
fbdaee No.14294433
>>14289056
>>14288960
>ask for facts
>got all those implications
smh tbh fam, you faggots need to learn from >>14288982
2951da No.14294473
>>14291315
>Safana
>Detecting Traps
heh
b9eb0b No.14294618
>>14287632
from what I heard the last few games didn't have dialogue changes, guess they actually heard the people complaining and realised it is a bad move.
204668 No.14294678
>>14287609
This has been a module for forever, they sold it for a few bucks back when NWN Diamond was a thing. They just gave it to whatever company wanted to make modules with some light support from Bioware and let them sell it to have people buy more copies of Diamond. Kind of dumb to be putting it up on Steam of all things.
IGN had a huuuuuuge fuck archive and was the basis for the community for all the modules, mods and what not, until they decided that the game was irrelevant and a drain on their bandwidth. Most of the old mods are still there, but good luck finding more obscure .haks that some modules require unless you have a -really- good grasp on the Aurora editor.
That said there used to be a ton of really cool modules and epic campaigns for old NWN. The format was pretty terrible though, my NWN folder becoming increasingly large thanks to the .hak format their resource files used. That that I think it could be compressed at all. One guy even had a really neat Diablo-type module with random artifacts and custom races. Thats what kept me playing that game 5-7 years after its release.
c6fd64 No.14296538
>>14287609
God help us all when will this SJW shit go away and die. Why do they have to touch old games beamdog will probably try to sjw every bioware game they can get.
fbdaee No.14296572
>>14294618
>guess they actually heard the people complaining
or maybe they are just fucking lazy and want to shit games faster with their logo.
fbdaee No.14296591
>>14294678
make a mega, anon, and post it in the share thread, dont let all that shit go to waste!
dee1d4 No.14296979
I could understand if they cleaned up Obsidian's mess and redid NWN2, but Bioware's NWN works fine and did not need a fucking remaster.
8f3594 No.14297185
Their games have positive reviews on steam.
a0a15c No.14301027
So wait let me get this straight. I've been wanting to play trough those games (PT, BG I/II, NWN and Icewind) for a while. I thought that the EEs are just that, the same games only made to run properly. Did they seriously SJW them up? How is this legal? Are you saying I should get the originals instead? Please explain, i was not aware of the beamdog meme.
ebb9a4 No.14301517
>>14291821
>no, nobody hates that the character is trans, they hate that they just blurt out their sexual identity to a complete stranger on the street" they finally patched the character out
To be fair, isn't that totally accurate to someone who is a transexual?
ebb9a4 No.14301524
>>14301027
Pretty sure you could just get a clone of the original NWN module and put it in
ab346a No.14301638
>>14301027
fanmade patches for BG BG2 IWD and IWD2 already exist, there is literally no reason to give beamdog your money when you can just install the original games
ab346a No.14301741
>>14301027
Well unless you want to fuck the gay orc or the pink haired feminist that they shoved into the game.
33af5e No.14301980
>>14292333
Man, Jim Cummings sounds old.
He's gonna die soon, isn't he?
4f6786 No.14302898
>>14289254
> My only gripe with them is that they do not give a shit about the Japanese market unless it is pozzed, they cater to very VERY Pc/"safe" games and developers.
Oh boo hoo. I'm sure some other place is willing to carry your degenerate jailbait-and-worse anime porn games.
>>14292326
That doesn't stop oy veygas fanfags from sucking obsidian's dick. :^)
1b7495 No.14303028
>>14301638
It wouldn't suprise me if they did it like Night Dive with SS, where they just used the fanpatches and sold them later on while also DMCAing the source site for the fanpatches
a0a15c No.14310764
>>14301741
>>14301638
I managed to mod out all the changes to BG1 (the extra NPCs). I'm sticking with the EE after trying and failing to.get the old one working. Obvioulsy I didnt spend a dime so i guess this is the best way to play.
f1d5c6 No.14310802
>>14287609
Pretty sure they're doing the Konug games next since they're IE
c0483f No.14323846
Beamshit degenerated the Bio titles, do not touch that shit. Get original dope or stay clean.
d107d4 No.14323867
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ce2214 No.14323894
d107d4 No.14323924
>>14323867
What will happen to poor Deekin? Gods preserve us! Or the Chirstophjer Walken Vampires? How SOY will Fenthick be?
Are we getting the horror of the tranny Mephistopheles ending with gender pronouns and sissification?
d107d4 No.14323931
Dangerous Lizard GILFs of doom! Expect Kobolds to not escape the YIFF
cf63be No.14323936
>>14323867
I'm confused that is a good thing right? She's still attractive and kept her boob plates and cleavage.
f1d5c6 No.14323951
>>14323924
>>14323867
>>14323931
>he thinks this is bad
Just wait, I guarantee the Beamdog "secret" project that they're developing right now is NWN3
They're gonna make Bioware look like bonafide Nazis with all the shit they'll cram in
d107d4 No.14323960
>>14323936
THIS IS ARIBETH TYLMARANDE
OR EDGYBETH TITTY MARMALADE, WOMAN OF 1000 PREDICTABLE ELVEN FUCK-UPS.
As you can see, she is hot-
The thing on the right has a manface, literal adam's apple, no choker, BONES, the belts are warped and fused in a manner to a new needless bottom belt just before the circle, and they fucked up her trim.
Also, she had a shitload of armour variations through artwork and stuff, this mod shows most of them, some custom
d107d4 No.14323969
>>14323964
Also, Bioshit does not have my ancient Mod NWN1 pasta I posted here- so any "fixes" will be fuckups due to inabiltiy to grasp the community or modding scene climate.
cf63be No.14324011
>>14323960
Thanks I was so focused on the breasts I ignored the face and armor.
cf557f No.14324023
>>14289359
Many of them are likely complicit in all of this as I can't imagine any of them not already disgusted enough with the industry to leave it behind them a decade ago would even care anymore.
56a3b7 No.14327430
>>14288247
>You can follow ever irrelevant but easy "improvement" they make on their vlog. It's funny how they talk endlessly yet nothing actually changes with the game.
And when some people suggested something that would improve the game tremendously (full control of your party), the lead guy said he didn't want to do it because it was against his grand artistic vision of NWN being completely multiplayer.
>>14288702
And it looks like they're about to do just that by "improving" some of the character models so that they'll now clash with all the other models and the environment. This is going to fuck up the custom module scene, because it'll be divided between the two versions of the game.
>>14288749
>Don't even do anything to improve the graphics
As their attempt to "improve" Aribeth shows, be careful what you wish for.
>>14296979
NWN1 is still dragged down by the lack of full party control. It puts a serious limit on how modules are designed. You can't make combat too complicated, because you know the player can only control one character and that character can be of any class.
be528f No.14327596
>>14323960
>>14323964
NWN1's OC has the best optional romance that I have ever seen in a video game.
c9bc96 No.14328208
>>14327430
>grand artistic vision
I misread that as 'grand autistic vision', but that's probably true also.
56a3b7 No.14336812
>>14328208
Wouldn't an autist prefer a game that makes singleplayer as good as possible so they don't have to deal with other people?
0045cb No.14336948
I didn't buy NWN for the singleplayer anyway. I played for the MP. If there's an NWN coming out which uses Steam integration instead of Bioware run servers, it means a version of NWN that I can play practically forever. So bitch about the politics for a singleplayer campaign you won't play anyway, but I actually want to see how this goes.
0045cb No.14337017
>>14288702
They're very explicitly advertising that this is going to be 100% backward compatible. They're not going to be breaking mod support.
e6ceb3 No.14337105
0045cb No.14338020
>>14337105
Probably Aribeth in Hordes of the Underdark.
8a3c4c No.14338054
>>14327430
you can't have full party control, but you can design campaigns for multiplayer, at least
695d16 No.14338209
>>14301517
Yeah, the actual 0.000002% of trans people trannies find it incredibly offensive because it's unrealistic and simply fucking stupid; it's trannies written by regular people who have no concept of transgenderism, don't know any trannies, and have never done any research on the procedure, the people, or the politics.
Self-righteous (((white people))) sticking up for people who just want to be left alone. In other news, water is wet. More at 11.
>>14323867
What a fucking shame. Just confirms to me that these fucks have no concept of the biological differences between men and women. Not really surprised, but still angry.
56a3b7 No.14338422
>>14338054
And I don't play multiplayer at all, so that's of no interest to me.
3c3966 No.14338800
>>14323960
That's her hyoid bone you mongoloid.
d57b05 No.14339986
>>14301027
The EE versions don't even have all the basic mods, so you still have to mod them anyway. Also, Icewind Dale II is in the clear because the source code is still lost. I can't imagine what they'd do for IWD2 since the antagonists want everyone to be race mixed mongrels.
6252f7 No.14346636
Lucky I have the originals plus mods for Share Threads.
62d428 No.14346659
>>14338209
>Just confirms to me that these fucks have no concept of the biological differences between men and women.