0c688b No.14271842
>Donkey kong
I thought that guy's claim to fame was pacman, and that he did it in the 80's or some shit. My knowledge of the topic is extremely limited though.
e0a52c No.14271855
>He's a fraud because he played the same fucking game on something else.
OK, thanks Nintendo autists.
b25202 No.14271865
>REEEEEEEE HE USED A LAPTOP AND KEYBOARD TO PLAY THE GAME AND DIDN'T BUY THE GENUINE ARCADE MACHINE
Christ, speedrunner autism is the kind of autism i can never appreciate. Didn't one guy get his score rejected too because he didn't use the right arcade machine, then used one sold by a guy they didn't like?
a12314 No.14271866
>They still recognize his 933K score
So this is basically just complaining the game was record by an emulator and not the actual hardware.
Meh.
944b4c No.14271867
>>14271829
We're finding out a lot of old 'pros' are full of shit.
People have been digging into the 'King of Videogames' records to find that many of them are obviously fake, just by the fact he posted impossible scores.
0b1c04 No.14271876
Literally ever famous person related to video games is a fraud, period.
a12314 No.14271879
>>14271867
Difference here is the guy in question has proven scores that are within reach of his supposed record.
773f60 No.14271882
>>14271865
It's not speedrunning, they're high scores. Still severe autism, though.
0c688b No.14271895
>>14271865
The point is that playing the emulator gives the opportunity to abuse save states. He isn't bitching about how it's not on the proper hardware, just that being on emulator raises the possibility it could be fake.
It's still the unfun kind of autism though, I won't deny that.
72664c No.14271899
emuniggers will never be seen as legitimate, will they ever recover?
92dea1 No.14271904
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>people don't understand what's in question
http://www.twingalaxies.com/help.php
>Emulation submissions are only accepted on platforms/tracks that are specifically set up for that purpose. If a game track rule set or platform category does not expressly mention or imply that emulation submissions are acceptable, then the default general rule is that emulation will not be accepted on that track.
72664c No.14271914
>>14271904
emulation outside of TAS should never be seen as legitimate and its becoming a frequent occurrence for emulation scandals in yoshi's island running coming about. The guy was caught and upon being caught remarked that emulation should never be seen as legitimate.
72664c No.14271959
>>14271904
that was a nice watch. The stories behind speed running are really enjoyable and I've spent some time the past few months watching ryan white goose's goldenye speed lore and it's fascinating stuff.
0c688b No.14271972
>>14271899
There are plenty of competitions that assume you're going to emulate a game. Recording a twitch stream is seen as proof.
00d1ab No.14271980
None of this would've happened if he took his HRT pills.
713113 No.14272000
>>14271876
Come to think of it, you're right.
>Todd
>Sessler
>Cliffy
>Kojima
>Jaffe
>Markus
Now I'm depressed.
72664c No.14272013
>>14271972
if the equipment isn't standardized it's not legitimate. the way emulators work vary from version to version, and the way a PC 5 years ago runs the same emulator a PC from today would run it differs enough to create variables in how it is intended to function.
emulation is illegitimate and should never be taken seriously in a competitive sense. If you want to get serious, you'll invest in the real hardware, whether it costs you 50 bucks or 500.
75acd7 No.14272014
>>14271914
>>14272013
Another exception: Official releases like Virtual Console. Also TASes have made some attempts to prove themselves on official systems, but generally it only works with a specific one because they aren't all created perfectly identical.
72664c No.14272019
>>14272014
>Official releases like Virtual Console
usually get their own category as they can work in a controlled environment PC emulators never could. Something like what Stryder7x does where he experiments across all available platforms and versions yields its own interesting and reproducible results.
b25202 No.14272022
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>>14272013
>emulation is illegitimate and should never be taken seriously in a competitive sense. If you want to get serious, you'll invest in the real hardware, whether it costs you 50 bucks or 500.
Well, that explains why all the mario/metroid games still hold a pretty penny, despite there being millions of them. That, and spergs being so autistic they end up frying the original hardware with advance level autism.
9a00ec No.14272023
Steve Wiebe is also a fraud
8fac8f No.14272030
>>14272000
>>14271876
>people still don't know this about celebrities
72664c No.14272032
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>>14272022
>that explains why all the mario/metroid games still hold a pretty penny
that's mostly just nintendo tax. There's games that aren't victim to it, even on nintendo platforms. Personally I'd be happy to get a $12 copy of actraiser over a $30 copy of super mario world, mostly because actraiser kicks ass and mario is for chumps.
12ace5 No.14272053
That anon that said speedrunning is the most degenerate activity known to man was right.
72664c No.14272056
>>14272053
that's Ryan white and he is a speed runner and has been for like 15 years, and still is. I think we can all agree nothing is more degenerate than posting on a Himalayan basket weaving forum.
92dea1 No.14272066
>>14272053
that guy is an idiot because he was saying "not washing your dishes while trying to crunch out a WR is degenerate" which is wrong, if you're not fully dedicated to your craft then you cannot claim any kinda mastery of it and thus aren't propelling it to new hights.
9a00ec No.14272067
>>14272056
>Himalayan basket weaving forum
>forum
what?
72664c No.14272070
>>14272067
sorry, bulletin board
7d5b32 No.14272072
>>14272013
>If you want to get serious, you'll invest in the real hardware, whether it costs you 50 bucks or 500.
Is this what autism looks like?
c00805 No.14272074
>>14272013
Speedrunners and highscore achievers will have to rely on emulation at some point in the future, because there's a finite amount of original hardware and they all have an expiration date. It might not be anytime soon, but we could even run into an issue where a speedrunner/record holder buys up the last few remaining arcade systems or game cartridges so that no one else can "legitimately" beat his score.
I do understand the concerns though, emulators can be very unstable/exploitable and games whose top records are milliseconds apart like Super Mario Bros absolutely need to be run on either original hardware or something exactly identical. Hopefully emulation software improves enough to be indistinguishable from original hardware. It also helps that a lot of speedrunners and fans of speedrunning are actually autistic and can spot the inconsistencies and errors that are in a faked run.
72664c No.14272076
>>14272074
there's already better alternatives to emulation as you think of it in FPGAs. They won't have to rely on emulation if the exact logic of the chips can be replicated through FPGAs. If you don't reach standardization, there is no legitimacy.
66e0b9 No.14272078
>>14272072
No it's what being a consumer whore looks like.
72664c No.14272084
>>14272072
>p-please take me seriously i've played through so many super nintendo games on zsnes im trueley cultured
kys weeb
9ebcae No.14272095
>>14271829
"Emulators are cheating! They can be exploited!"
Except you can do this with emulators -> Save timeline
You start the emulator, start the internal recorder, play till end, click stop
All emulators the recordings show all the save states involved where you use them, like if you load a save state 10 times to progress past one part it shows you loaded the save state tens times
If the entire run shows zero saved states were used throughout it's entire recording the run is considered tamper free and valid
Signed - Somebody who actually knows how these emulators work
75acd7 No.14272099
>>14272076
Dunno where you're getting the idea this will work. You can already standardize quality emulators if they're allowed, or at least the least bad ones if there's no other choice. TASvideos does this. Besides, to write an emulator for any platform, you need to have full understanding of the console, which, hasn't been achieved even for older systems. FPGAs are not something most people have since they're limited in purpose and also expensive.
2feb4a No.14272102
>>14272013
>if the equipment isn't standardized it's not legitimate
>What is ingame time and RTA without loading screens
You're not actually familiar with speedrunning. You just watched Goose's goldeneye shit.
b25202 No.14272105
>>14272085
>any attempt to show them wrong will mean revealing ourselves even more and becoming "famous"
Far as i can tell, /v/ has slowed down considerably compared to what it was years ago.
bea643 No.14272117
>>14272013
> and the way a PC 5 years ago runs the same emulator a PC from today would run it differs enough to create variables in how it is intended to function.
If that was even close to true input recordings would desync accross computers.
But they don't so that statement is incorrect.
9a00ec No.14272121
>>14272095
>doesn't submit proper Save Timeline
>instead submits a VHS recording
can you see the issue?
87807a No.14272126
Todd Rodgers had his score wiped out.
http://archive.is/2cY5Y
9ebcae No.14272128
>>14272121
Emulators are not 1 - 1 perfect for audio, and never will be and is easy to spot
82e616 No.14272146
>>14272000
>Markus
He's far less of a fraud than everyone else that currently works a Mojang. And he his working on a new game if he hasn't given up on it since I last checked.
e68f89 No.14272151
The problem isn't playing on emulation itself, it's that he manipulated the game to give him way more high value objects (blue barrels, I believe) than average. That's the problem with emulation, the possibility of fucking with stuff and give yourself an advantage.
bea643 No.14272176
>>14272151
The thing is most of the cheating things you can use on an emulator aren't exceptionally hard to replicate on actual hardware, modified roms and prerecorded input playback being the big ones.
ccbf1a No.14272189
>>14271829
Whatever happened to Steve Wiebe?
c00805 No.14272194
>>14272095
I don't think the issue is entirely about the recording of the game, it's also manipulation. The only time that people notice aimbot scripts in speedruns is when it's, well, noticeable. You could write an aimbot script that's very convincing, you could manipulate the game's RNG, there's a number of cheats you could do that is much more undetectable than stitching a segmented run together.
9ebcae No.14272208
>>14272194
>You can manipulate the rom
Except if you play back their recorded movie on a widely used rom it will not work correctly
>You can run an aimbot script
This is old news, people have been running android bots with controller input into actual consoles for ages. TASBot block at AGDQ etc uses actual consoles with just the bot hooked up to the inputs so even official hardware is not safe from this
And again emulators show saved state replays etc which can easily highlight cheating abuse
0e071a No.14272219
>>14272032
someone stole a copy from me about 15 years ago..
8fac8f No.14272241
>>14272229
>linking every post
f3cd2d No.14272403
>>14271855
Nah he's a fraud because when your emulator can do tool-assisted speedruns it can also do tool-assisted high scores.
75acd7 No.14272422
>>14272403
That's why a few speedrun communities require controller cams as well.
f3cd2d No.14272479
>>14272422
This guy didn't do controller cam though. Rather telling.
e12f1f No.14272483
It's so fucking easy to stop all this shit about TAS though, just make the emulator put a watermark in the screen if the guy is using programmed actions or if the guy used stop/frame advance.
>>14271959
Goose is a degenerate, he said it himself.
He is also in favor of paid chatrooms in twitch and loves AGDQ
Treat anything he says as mad ramblings of a insane idiot.
f3cd2d No.14272489
>>14272483
>It's so fucking easy to stop all this shit about TAS though, just make the emulator put a watermark in the screen if the guy is using programmed actions or if the guy used stop/frame advance.
OPEN SOURCE nigger. You can take out the watermark no problem.
cdfcd5 No.14272519
>>14271829
>>14271904
Knew he was a fraud since he kept submitting all those private tapes. Hope this shit becomes common knowledge
b1f3db No.14272530
Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
There's a lot of that from the early days of high scores.
b25202 No.14272569
>>14272483
>DERR SPEEDRUNNING IZ BAD
>I HAVE NU FUN PLAYNG GAEM
>BUT ME STILL AM DOIN IT N-E-WAI
I ain't saying he's wrong, just that there's nothing i hate more than seeing a man who gets paid to sit on his ass playing fucking video games have a fucking pity party.
767952 No.14272581
>>14272000
I actually don't think Todd Howard is a fraud, he just stupidly stretches the truth or promises what he can't deliver and has to keep his mouth shut when he learns that the hard way or embarrass himself and his studio.
07c6bc No.14272588
>>14272540
Looks more like its a "Everyone post that one video about Todd Rogers over and over again because we're all too fucking retarded to read the thread and instead just read the OP then rush to give everyone our hot take" thread instead.
4b1598 No.14272624
this thread was created once on /n/ and was mysteriously deleted for no reason. I created it again once more and it stuck that time, but it's strange it got deleted in the first place
>>14272212
shills know 8chan is used to being shilled using more complex methods so they are reverting back to more simple and older trolling methods because they assume we have forgotten about them. their plan is to troll everyone on 8chan and create enough chaos to generate a huge amount of asshurt so that we become distracted and destabilized, because they want to disrupt the free flow of very important information everywhere by creating multiple tiny arguments in virtually every single thread. they want to slow down the discussion that takes place in every thread by possibly around 20-50% (my personal estimate) because around just about at before or at half way in every conversation/thread on 8chan they start to bullshit and create argument related derails because that's the best place for them to insert their argument starting instigation tactics simply because it's too obvious if they start right away when the thread literally just started.
this information is of the utmost importance and everyone on 8chan should be aware of it. simply being aware of this ongoing attack is enough of vaccine to fight off this problem.
I will include three images in this thread. 1. fake reddit goon image. 2. an image that outlines who (((they))) are. 3. an excellent (((shill))) education image for beginners that outlines many of (((their))) most commonly used tactics with some pretty nice tips and tricks and other more rare tactics mixed in. posting the anti shill image has had many anons banned from /pol/ before for seemingly no reason so it's a fairly good indicator that it's well made.
I'll also say this again:
God bless 8chan
God bless President Donald Trump
God bless The United States of America.
Semper Fidelis.
Knowing is Half the Battle.
773f60 No.14272626
>>14272023
Brian Kuh, please. There is a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up, if anyone wants to watch.
4b1598 No.14272628
>>14272624
Sorry that is the old version
27fe36 No.14272631
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>>14271865
>He is also in favor of paid chatrooms in twitch and loves AGDQ
The video of him saying he's in favor was mostly him just playing devil's advocate, He said himself neutral when it comes to the chat.
92dea1 No.14272659
>>14272628
>>14272624
listen to this anon tbh
fb7b25 No.14272661
>>14272483
>He is also in favor of paid chatrooms
It wasn't really about that, he just sees it as a solution to a problem not really a problem, but in the eyes of GDQ it was and it's their show.
>loves AGDQ
That's just a lie.
f6f947 No.14272662
Does this shit even really matter?
92dea1 No.14272665
>>14272662
he had a film and made alot of money. what do you think?
fb7b25 No.14272667
>>14272662
To people who care about the rules it is. It's easy to cheat with an emulator and game behavior isn't 1 one 1.
2fe7b4 No.14272670
>>14272628
>>14272624
>shills are trying to destroy 8chan
>by shitposting /b/ with low quality threads
MFWAAAAAAAAH
THERE WAS A CALIFORNIAN SHITPOSTER KNOWN AS PAUL MASON THAT HAD THE SAME SHTPOSTING QUALITY VINTAGE DATED MEMES FERMENTED IN A .JPEG
genious plan right there
shitposting in a sea of shitposts
Also
(you)
92dea1 No.14272688
f6f947 No.14272708
>>14272665
>>14272667
So no, not really.
This shit shouldnt even matter. If you can play a game faster than anyone else or get the most points it shouldnt be given a shit on a national or worldwide level. The only thing that it should be used for is bragging rights to friends in a one off conversation "oh well that game I actually have the highest score in the world". I mean fucking hell me and a friend were in the top 100 for scoring on one of the resident evil games and we werent even fucking trying. It honestly doesnt fucking matter. A friend of mine also was one of the top few to rank in some other games in like the top 10 or so. No one really gives a shit when it comes down to it. If you were to play competitive games then yes there would be sponsors and tournament money thrown around but getting the high score or clearing it the fastest means that you just want to join All Guys Ditto Women that much more.
b0723a No.14272733
>>14272662
No, because he still has the score of 933,900 from 14 years ago, so he is no longer at 20th place but on place 47 on a completely unimportant hobby.
Also his reported but not video witnessed points would but him around place 21.
That means the documentaries and his other scores remain legit, because the points in question were from after The King of Kong and it should have no impact on his Hot Sauce business.
92dea1 No.14272734
>>14272708
he made a living off of what he did to the point where there was a film made about him. you're not wrong in that it shouldn't matter but that's not the real world
f6f947 No.14272743
>>14272734
It doesnt matter, but people keep throwing him money. We all know people will throw money at the stupidest things like the egg salad kickstarter. Perhaps I should kickstart making a tuna fish sandwich and have people pay me to put shit in there like jellybeans. I can eat my sandwich and get rich off of retards.
82e616 No.14272758
>>14272733
>and it should have no impact on his Hot Sauce business.
What kind of hot sauce does he make?
f6f947 No.14272773
b0723a No.14272775
>>14272758
He is the owner of Rickey's World Famous Restaurant and sells Rickey's World Famous Hot Sauces under
https://www.800hotsauce.com/
and Retailers near you.
587c7a No.14272784
>>14272670
>Paul Mason
Dingdong?
As in the guy from WanWan Games?
b0723a No.14272786
>>14272775
I think Paps pickled Peppers is also his Brand, but I am not sure about that.
b25202 No.14272791
>He tried to sue a cartoon because they made fun of him
LOL
https://please use archive.is/gaming/2015/11/court-king-of-kongs-billy-mitchell-isnt-an-exploding-floating-cartoon-head/
b25202 No.14272796
>Forgot to archive
God fucking damn it
https://archive.is/w9kmq
aace50 No.14272810
All speedrun and score run WRs are fake. It's really just a matter of making your methods as untraceable as possible.
f6f947 No.14272816
>Paul Mason
Im almost sure that wouldnt even be remotely Dingdong's mo. Dingdong is more of a "i just dont care to do X" and wouldnt waste time doing stuff like that. Pretty sure its either shitposting on the other guys end or another like named guy. I just dont see that guy giving much of a shit to shitpost. he seems more of a lurker anyways.
587c7a No.14272837
>>14272816
I'm joking, I just know dingdang happens to post in our draw threads when they roll around, I know he's not a shitposter
f6f947 No.14272846
>>14272810
Why are you posting the crybaby. At least post Gin To Kin or Akagi. Kaiji is a massive bitch.
>>14272837
Guess ill need to stop by those threads, need to see if he posts any game artwork (that shooter needs to hurry up.)
98c080 No.14272849
Speedrunners went through the emulator debate 10 fucking years ago you fags.
cba353 No.14272856
>>14272837
Time to lurk there, I guess. I want to ask him what happened to a project he worked on years ago.
53c16a No.14272937
>>14272849
What was the conclusion?
86bc26 No.14272977
>>14272810
How do you fake a run on original hardware recorded on vhs tape?
>Inb4 tape splicing.
How could it be done without it being incredibly obvious? Keep in mind that all the earliest runs were just guys pointing a camcorder at their tv while the played Mario and Zelda. Not only that but they were barred from using glitches as per the rules of the organization in charge of record keeping at the time.
I can see how the modern runs could be faked, but ones from 2003? Less so.
fb7b25 No.14273168
>>14272937
it actually varies from community to community but the consensus is that it's a no and generally categorized as TAS or emulated rather than "legit"
62e029 No.14273197
>>14272937
Separate category if allowed at all.
3807e5 No.14273214
>>14272977
A lot of these dipshits pretend to press buttons when playing these games. If they talk way too much, the button noises don't match up with the game capture and they keep repeatedly looking at the facecam while playing that's a very good sign they're mimicking recorded footage.
5d222e No.14273228
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>>14272791
He only did so since shit hit close to home
0b1c04 No.14273241
>>14272030
After all the years of us getting fucked over and people are still willing to give them money. It's such a shame.
587c7a No.14273243
>>14273228
>blocked by turner broadcasting Hong Kong
Why do we not blow up china again?
3807e5 No.14273248
>>14273243
China is invading Hong Kong like every other western country including Japan, bastards need to be gassed just like the kikes.
587c7a No.14273271
>>14273248
Invading Hong Kong?
I thought Hong Kong was functionally an economic asset of china and that's just their designated "let people actually run businesses because our GDP is fucking dying" zone
3807e5 No.14273275
>>14273271
What, is Taiwan Chink clay to you now too?
587c7a No.14273289
>>14273275
Mate I'm just unfamiliar with the region other than the horror stories of the people stupid enough to take mandarin and half to deal with those turbokikes
4a70d9 No.14273298
>>14272483
Yo Goose, you dont even know how to install Windows 7 let alone brush your teeth and you arguments of emulator vs original hardware are embarrassing. Get a real fucking job you faggot.>>14272483
3807e5 No.14273339
>>14273289
Honk Kong is a separate country started as a British colony that they gave back because they're Communist cuckolds, Taiwan is where the previous establishment in China fled after Commies took over.
cf3a3a No.14273370
d7f101 No.14273378
>>14271876
This.
>>14272000
Anyone that is put as "the face" of something is guaranteed to be a fraud. Journos (aka, child rapists) always try to give fame to some newface as a means to manipulate news and opinions. It makes it easier to manipulate consumers if some activity or company has someone that they can identify as "the guy from (insert name)", and it also generates the circlejerks that compose the basis of every cartel of "journalists + famous person" that go up in arms against the consumers that question the bad practices of the industry itself.
92dea1 No.14273396
>>14273339
we gave it back because we have something called morals as well as the fact that america stabbing us in the back like that after ww2 made it so that we couldn't really afford our colonies anymore
3807e5 No.14273424
>>14273396
My sarcasm detector is either going off or you're struggling to type English, I can't really tell the difference.
d7f101 No.14273508
>>14273396
That only means that you were stupid to not see a treason coming, and weak to let a simple backstab put you down to the point of losing your domains.
The weak shall always be dominated or exterminated. There is nothing wrong in colonizing weaker people.
82e616 No.14273546
>>14273396
>we gave it back because we have something called morals
>the Eternal Angelo
>having morals
It's not good to lie anon.
53d0c3 No.14273640
>>14271829
But he was my hero
2f6fd3 No.14273657
>In summary, these GIFs show that each of the Donkey Kong world record direct feed recordings presented by Billy Mitchell and verified by TG were generated in MAME and not by original Donkey Kong hardware.
This is retarded
3807e5 No.14273687
>>14273546
Anglos have morals? A lot of jews already interbred and part of them stole their blue eyes.
82e616 No.14273692
>>14273657
>This is retarded
Autistic is the word you are looking for.
a01892 No.14273702
>>14272066
His sink was filled with dirty water and dishes for a month. He didin't even take out the trash he just let it sit there.
cf3a3a No.14273717
>>14273687
Where do the green eyes come from?
a01892 No.14273725
>>14272102
>>What is ingame time and RTA without loading screens
Meaningless unless the game performs at a consistent speed 100% of the time.
82e616 No.14273734
>>14273717
>Where do the green eyes come from?
The Daoine Sidhe.
3807e5 No.14273736
>>14273717
They're obviously caucasoid, I can't say if they're from a specific region.
053f34 No.14273769
>>14272569
>>14272483
To be fair to Goose he did this video like a day or so after his mom died.
eea6dc No.14273847
cf3a3a No.14273853
>>14273847
Frauds and Conmen that somehow still get away with it.
8d50f7 No.14273864
>>14271829
>Be a chad
>Wanna have fun playing video games
>Play Donkey Kong on some arcade machine
>Get a high-score
>It's a new record
>Some salty donkey kong soyboy autist spergs out and checks your record footage frame by frame, trying to disprove you
>Turns out that the arcade machine was some raspberry-pi running an emulator
>high-score nintendo autist community spergs out and call you a cheater
WEW
cf3a3a No.14273875
>>14273864
If that's what a Chad looks like for you, then you need to get your eyes checked.
2f6fd3 No.14273888
>>14273864
They actually allow MAME scores among their leaderboards. But he didn't outright say that he was playing on a MAME cabinet.
eea6dc No.14273889
>>14273853
I'm just saying a shitload of them are jews, Mitchell included. Just look at him.
Crypto as fuck.
93bb65 No.14273939
>>14272076
> If you don't reach standardization, there is no legitimacy.
But still in real sports you can achieve a world record on a different track (where the track is different, altitude, temperature, wind etc). If it's too much favorable in a variable like wind it's not counted as a record but other than that it is.
9cc128 No.14273947
>>14272000
You made me remember the state of Spector. Now I am perturbed.
56f59c No.14273958
>>14271865
>Didn't one guy get his score rejected too because he didn't use the right arcade machine
Yeah, became a score for double kong or something
> then used one sold by a guy they didn't like?
well at least that complaint could be legit, tho they should have tested if the dude rigged the board when he sold it.
Its twin galaxies and their scores don't really matter because they keep letting cheaters keep high scores. Look up Mr. Atari I think his name was, there's a couple new videos of his runs being disprove as possible and he still gets to keep the scores in some cases.
66c9bb No.14273977
This autism is almost as bad as GDQ tranny fest.
65b96c No.14273981
>>14271904
Billy "1.1-Inch Meat Stump" Mitchell
93bb65 No.14273982
>>14272483
>Treat anything he says as mad ramblings of a insane idiot.
He seems pretty reasonable and self-aware in the video you linked.
1acffd No.14274496
>>14272483
>Speedrunning is the most degenerate act that mankind has ever come up with
Well when you put it that way it does seem like a waste of time.
4a3cfc No.14274923
>>14271867
This is true. Here's a good example: http://tasvideos.org/5517S.html
Some asshole named Todd Rogers in 1982 somehow set a time record that can't be matched or beat with an emulator, even after the author revere engineered the game.
cf3a3a No.14274929
>>14273888
Half of the people on that list are kikes, hot damn
aef15b No.14274961
>>14274923
Please tell me you're being tongue-in-cheek, anon.
62ba14 No.14275023
0236b6 No.14275048
Literally all old record holders are frauds. It's only now that people take this shit more seriously they're going back and finding the truth.
84db5d No.14275253
>>14271895
THIS. The autists' point isn't the microscopic difference in how the game is displayed (this is just used for the proof that it's emulation), the point is that you can easily use save-states in emu. I can play very complex tunes on a piano if I'm allowed to record a few notes, try till I get the next part right, record that and append it to what I have, and so on. If I then show people this synthetic result I stitched together claiming I did it in one go, that makes me a liar.
cf3a3a No.14275300
>>14275048
Similar to the Holocaust
3807e5 No.14275478
>>14274929
A fuckload of speedrunners on speedrun.com look like kikes too.
98c759 No.14275500
>>14271867
Didn't he literally doctor a DK score taping when his record was being broken? or was that part of the documentary added for drama?
37196f No.14275520
>>14275300
People would've forgotten the Holocaust by now like the atomic bombings of Japan or Pearl Harbor except Jews don't know how to shut the fuck up about it and stop shoving it down everyone's throats. What about all those Protestants who were supposedly killed in gas chambers as well? Its no shit people are starting to ask questions
b6f755 No.14275526
>Billy Mitchell
Has Phil beaten him up again, has his cute wife left him, or his retard kid been run over again? Dun..dun dun dun dun dun dun…
>que Eastenders theme.
222d56 No.14275532
>>14271865
jeez is that really the issue here ?
69bc4d No.14275793
This is some impressive autism.
69bc4d No.14275796
>>14275526
Nobody's going to get that anon.
a513bd No.14275866
>>14272483
Why is it always some (1) fag who never replies more context with Goose who posts this webm? The video you posted was him in an emotionally compromised state due to his mother being in the hospital for terminal cancer. He also stated that Speedrunning was one of his escapes to chill and relax, much like any hobby. His argument in that video is essentially what happens when you take a hobby to far and he admitted this and that there's nothing inherently wrong with it.
>He is also in favor of paid chatrooms in twitch and loves AGDQ
He also conceded people had many points against this concept in his follow up video and he fucking hates what GDQ has become since it's where his popularity took off in GDQ 2013. This is why he's showing up in other events now. While I don't agree that the chatrooms should be pay only I genuinely don't give a fuck either way.
Seriously this webm gets posted every time a hand full of certain autists think that speedrunning is somehow inherently degenerate when you can make the same argument that video games in general are fully fucking degenerate if all you use are the arguments he has. Kill yourself.
d8aac0 No.14275936
>>14275866
Regardless of his emotional state literally nothing he said was wrong.
Loads of speedrunners are trannnies, furries, or other assorted degenerates.
GDQ is cringe worthy at best and trash at worst.
Speedrunning is not fun.
Watching some else speedrun is not fun.
There's zero passion in it. It's all about the ego boost associated with it.
If if's not fun, why bother?
a513bd No.14275980
>>14275936
>Loads of speedrunners are trannnies, furries, or other assorted degenerates
So is the video game community in general. Are you really going to imply that sjw's infiltrating a hobby is anything new?
>Watching some else speedrun is not fun.
Speak for yourself.
bea643 No.14275984
>>14275936
>Speedrunning is not fun.
t."if I can't enjoy something then nobody can"
d8aac0 No.14276028
>>14275980
>>14275984
>So is the video game community in general.
Yes, modern vidya along with the vast majority of "gamers" are degenerate and/or stupid. The industry is fucked, no one here defends the state of it. That's no new revelation. No one would get bothered over an anon saying that, so why is everyone getting bootytickled when some guy says the same about speedrunning?
It's all about exploiting bugs and following an exact formula. About as exciting as watching someone perform a math problem with a timer.
I'd genuinely like to know what you find fun about watching speedrunning, much less doing it.
10ca9a No.14276037
>>14275936
>Watching some else speedrun is not fun.
Its fun, when its a game i know deep and i can appreciate the amount of skill involved. Honestly it's not as impressive when you haven't tried yourself to be that good in a specific game.
Also you can learn a thing or two, maybe not to become a speedrunner yourself but to improve upon your playthrough
a513bd No.14276043
>>14276028
>so why is everyone getting bootytickled when some guy says the same about speedrunning?
Because there's nothing objectively wrong with speedrunning just like there's nothing objectively wrong with vidya games.
>It's all about exploiting bugs and following an exact formula.
Depends on the catagory. Learn shit before you spout nonsense.
>I'd genuinely like to know what you find fun about watching speedrunning, much less doing it.
<I'd genuinely like to know what you find fun about watching vidya games, much less doing it
You need to stop posting.
f7e888 No.14276082
>>14275866
This kind of hyperbolic bullshit is just how Goose acts out when he's stressed.
d8aac0 No.14276097
>>14276043
>dude lmao there's no such thing as objectivism
>i-if you dislike my specific hobby then you must have no excuse not to hate the entirety of vidya!
Maybe it's you who should stop posting.
dbdc2b No.14276112
>>14276097
>Objectivity exists so I can just apply it to everything!
You're objectively retarded.
a513bd No.14276113
>>14276082
Well his mom was dying in a hospital so it's not hard to assume he's stressed.
>>14276097
>dude lmao there's no such thing as objectivism
There's nothing objective about your argument other than the fact that the community is full of cancerous retards that inhibit every community
>i-if you dislike my specific hobby then you must have no excuse not to hate the entirety of vidya!
<i-if I dislike this specific hobby then you must no excuse to prove me wrong!
Fucking kekking. I was wrong, keep posting.
cf3a3a No.14276120
>>14276113
>>14276097
Just fuck each other already.
d8aac0 No.14276161
>>14276113
>There's nothing objective about your argument other than the fact that the community is full of cancerous retards that inhibit every community
Except they make up the overwhelming majority of the speedrunning community, them and their aspie twitch followers. Which brings me back to my original point that he was speaking the truth and
goose did nothing wrong
if you want to keep arguing about how me asking what the hell is enjoyable about speedrunning must mean that I hate all video games (for some reason) then burden of proof for your asinine claim which you made in the first place lies on you, faggot.
a513bd No.14276204
>>14276161
>Except they make up the overwhelming majority of the speedrunning community,
No they don't. They make up the majority of GDQ which the staff goes out of its way to include because their kikes. The rest either stream occasionally or stay in the community of whatever game their playing. The Goldeneye Elite community for example has many players who rarely stream and are generally just normal guys.
>Which brings me back to my original point that he was speaking the truth
Goose stated what he said was the truth. But just about every point in his argument can be used for pretty much any hobby you take to seriously. He also states that he won't refute what he said in the video, but that speedrunning was also one of few things that got him through that hard moment in his life. "Ying to the Yang" are his exact words.
>if you want to keep arguing about how me asking what the hell is enjoyable about speedrunning must mean that I hate all video games
Never stated that. Just that's essentially the only argument you can make without looking like a hypocritical faggot. I'm calling you an over temperamental spaz for assuming that there's something wrong with speedrunning when factually it's just a higher level of play of video games. If you like video games and you hate speedrunning you're essentially telling me you don't enjoy an aspect or level of playing games. Which is fine, but there's nothing objectively wrong with that aspect outside of the community. And the community for video games is full of normalfags and sjw's alike. So the burden of proof is on you for somehow telling me what's OBJECTIVELY wrong with speedrunning as a hobby that doesn't use weak ass points like the shitty community (that many runners also announce as being shitty).
d8aac0 No.14276262
>>14276204
>No they don't. They make up the majority of GDQ which the staff goes out of its way to include because their kikes. The rest either stream occasionally or stay in the community of whatever game their playing. The Goldeneye Elite community for example has many players who rarely stream and are generally just normal guys.
I didn't say each and every one. I said loads of them are degenerates. Twitch is the main gathering place for the "amateur" speedrunning community, and it's awful. Not just the platform itself but everyone associated with those on it, specifically the viewers/fanbases/whateveryouwanttocallthem of said speedrunners.
>Goose stated what he said was the truth. But just about every point in his argument can be used for pretty much any hobby you take to seriously. He also states that he won't refute what he said in the video, but that speedrunning was also one of few things that got him through that hard moment in his life. "Ying to the Yang" are his exact words.
And the state of many hobbies and their respective industries currently are shit. You keep stating that the situation is not specific to this particular community like you're trying to trip me up and make me say others are exempt for some reason. They're not, and it's not a unique situation for a community to be in currently. And I already said regardless of whatever fucking mental or emotional state he was in before or after it doesn't override the validity of what he said.
>Never stated that. Just that's essentially the only argument you can make without looking like a hypocritical faggot. I'm calling you an over temperamental spaz for assuming that there's something wrong with speedrunning when factually it's just a higher level of play of video games. If you like video games and you hate speedrunning you're essentially telling me you don't enjoy an aspect or level of playing games. Which is fine, but there's nothing objectively wrong with that aspect outside of the community. And the community for video games is full of normalfags and sjw's alike. So the burden of proof is on you for somehow telling me what's OBJECTIVELY wrong with speedrunning as a hobby that doesn't use weak ass points like the shitty community (that many runners also announce as being shitty).
I already stated in my first post why I believe it's a bad hobby, besides the community.
0e4f08 No.14276278
>>14276262
>>14276204
both of you faggots are being pretty fucking autistic yourselves right now.
a4c1e6 No.14276281
>>14276262
>Twitch is the main gathering place for the "amateur" speedrunning community
Only the attention whores go there, speedrunning is well spread accross the net and has existed way before Twitch was ever conceived
a513bd No.14276285
>>14276262
>I said loads of them are degenerates.
Same can be said with people who play games. There's far more whores who flash their boobs on Twitch right now than legitimately skilled runners.
>Twitch is the main gathering place for the "amateur" speedrunning community,
That's why plenty of the highest ranking runners stream.
>specifically the viewers/fanbases/whateveryouwanttocallthem
So now the problem isn't with the runners, but the people who watch them? The people who don't even directly influence the hobby? This is an excusable reason as to why speedrunning itself as a hobby is objectively shit?
>And the state of many hobbies and their respective industries currently are shit.
And what does that have to do with speedrunning as a hobby itself?
>They're not, and it's not a unique situation for a community to be in currently.
Then what's the problem with speedrunning itself?
>And I already said regardless of whatever fucking mental or emotional state he was in before or after it doesn't override the validity of what he said
And I said that the validity is only applicable if taken to extremes. My argument from the start has been that there is nothing wrong with the hobby itself.
>I already stated in my first post why I believe it's a bad hobby, besides the community.
Without any objective facts to back that up. Which I pointed out was just you disliking something without any objective points to be made.
>>14276278
>come into thread about speedrunning/highscores
>tries to assert that you're autistic when people discuss speedrunning
/v/'s always been a board about autistic vidya discussion. You get lost or something?
7b31df No.14276295
>>14276278
>walk into insane asylum
<lol you people are insane
Nice observation skills bro.
d8aac0 No.14276323
>>14276285
>Same can be said with people who play games.
And I never have defended the vidya industry, it is shit and full of degenerates like I said many times before this.
>So now the problem isn't with the runners, but the people who watch them? The people who don't even directly influence the hobby?
>And what does that have to do with speedrunning as a hobby itself?
Yes, the people who enjoy the hobby. I judge them and those who actually do the deed.
>Then what's the problem with speedrunning itself?
>My argument from the start has been that there is nothing wrong with the hobby itself.
>Without any objective facts to back that up. Which I pointed out was just you disliking something without any objective points to be made.
I gave my points and cited evidence that anyone can readily find. If you really wish I can search through my /v/ folder for all the various stupid streamer videos and post them in the next webm thread.
That is all. I've had enough serious discussions for tonight.
a513bd No.14276344
>>14276323
>it is shit and full of degenerates like I said many times before this
Much like speedrunning or any other vidya hobby.
>Yes, the people who enjoy the hobby. I judge them and those who actually do the deed.
But the deed itself is absolutely fine then? If you want to move on from the concept that the community somehow tarnishes the hobby then feel free. I didn't bring it up after all.
>I gave my points and cited evidence that anyone can readily find
Your points are that it's mathematically rigid and abusive of glitches when in fact I stated that there's almost always backup strats and alternative routes for many games and that there's glitchless categories for just about every game.
>If you really wish I can search through my /v/ folder for all the various stupid streamer videos and post them in the next webm thread.
And I can go into Twitch right now and find thousands of retarded streamers who don't speedrun. What does this have to do with anything?
Can't blame you for wanting to stop arguing though. If I were in your position I wouldn't be to keen to reply either.
d8aac0 No.14276371
>>14276344
>he just had to be a smug little shit
Nigger you know what I meant by streamers, someone who mixes up 'to' with 'too', and 'their' with 'they're' should definitely not be playing the semantics game.
5c670d No.14276423
>>14271829
>people being this surprised
>especially after that documentary King of Kong: Fistful of Quarters
>where Billy was acting like a complete faggot.
5c670d No.14276436
>>14275500
There was a point in that tape where there was a moment of "static" which was disputed but then was accepted anyway. The irony of that was that, that teacher wasn't allowed to tape his score at home and send it in as well. At the end he challenged Billy for the title but that cunt never showed up even though he agreed to it.
Eventually that teacher was allowed to send in his taped score.
a513bd No.14276442
>>14276371
>Nigger you know what I meant by streamers
If streamers are cancer what does that have to do with speedrunning? Also
>giving a shit about grammer on a Peruvian basket weaving board
Next time I'm writing a high priority document I'll keep my their's and too's in mind but I think the point has been made that you're just out of arguments and need to go to bed.
98c759 No.14276455
>>14276436
Yeah, that one, I know lots of stuff was added or edited for drama and painted Billy like a massive asshole but also the guys at TG seemed to also go out of their way to make it harder for the other guy, including putting pressure on him by telling others in the arcade "hey, go and check that guy, he is going to get a kill screen" and the like.
d8aac0 No.14276477
>>14276442
I meant speedrunners who are streaming on the very platform we were discussing you dense motherfucker. And you either speak the goddamn English language properly or you go back, a fucking middle-schooler knows such basic rules of grammar.
Fuck you, you goddamn subhuman. You've really rustled me now and I'm going to shitpost here till the crack of dawn as long as your sorry ass is here.
a513bd No.14276512
>>14276477
>I meant speedrunners who are streaming on the very platform we were discussing you dense motherfucker
And I meant that there's nothing wrong with speedrunning and youve already admitted that both the vidya and speedrunning community are full of cancer. So what's the fucking point you're trying to make here?
>And you either speak the goddamn English language properly or you go back
Stay mad faggot. I'll put typo's and grammatical errors in every post replying to you from now on just to pis you off.
>You've really rustled me now and I'm going to shitpost here till the crack of dawn as long as your sorry ass is here.
<he's so emotionally invested in an argument on /v/ he's wrong at that he's willing to stay and shitpost about it
Good I'll have some enjoyment while play vidya.
d8aac0 No.14276555
>>14276512
My point?
Everything is fucking cancer, you're not exempt just because yours happens to be more weaponized autism then anything else. Stop getting high off your own fucking farts m8 your shit stinks just as bad as the rest.
A typo's a typo, but I guess I shouldn't be setting my standards so high. A shitskin isn't expected to form a single rational thought much less type a coherent sentence.
a513bd No.14276565
>>14276555
>Everything is fucking cancer
Thats not a point when the topic is on why speedrunning es cancer and shouldn't be experienced. Stay mad fag and keep posting and trying to do damage control.
d8aac0 No.14276571
>>14276565
Thanks for proving my point that (You) are a subhuman shitskin who cannot into context and takes everything placed in front of your big stupid ass at face value.
a513bd No.14276585
>>14276571
>I've lost the argument and I can't handle being wrong
keep posting. kek
a513bd No.14276594
9a22a6 No.14276619
Looks like the King of Kong is now the King of Dong!
8f9301 No.14276624
>video games
>of any value
0e7d38 No.14276627
>>14271842
he did the pac man record as well
d154a7 No.14276665
>check out speedruns
>people only play on the easiest difficulty
speedrunning is for shitters
a82b10 No.14276668
>>14276665
post your streets time faget
d154a7 No.14276677
a82b10 No.14276719
>>14276677
>he can't even get 1:13
casual, go back to deus ex
5b6de2 No.14276726
>>14276668
1:12 baby, I am a fucking legend.
a82b10 No.14276733
>>14276726
>not 1:11 with the new gl spawn
an MR, RL, RW time
d154a7 No.14276750
>>14276719
>this guy thinks speedrunning is a pointless grind for unwarranted self validation
>better ask him his time on some random fucking game
a513bd No.14276760
>>14276750
>playing for gratification
>not for mastery of a skill
He's probably right I bet you're shit at games.
92dea1 No.14277130
>>14273702
you don't get to be the best by wasting your time on unrelated tasks, you do that shit after or before a crunch
4c189f No.14277138
>>14276760
but what if you derive gratification from mastering a skill?
a513bd No.14277143
dd57cc No.14277411
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
If you've seen King of Kong: Fistful of Quarters, it's pretty obvious he's a piece of shit and a cheater. Like, yeah, the whole film has an obvious Bias against him, but even if you look past the "attitude" of the film, literally everything about him was shady. Hell his final "record break" was filmed directly from the video output, no self-cam, no controller footage, and there were even video skips where possible edits couldve easily happened
c4eb1e No.14277612
>>14276627
>he did the pac man record as well
What record? Resetting the game? There are only 255 "maps". Also I could be remembering Ms. Pac Man, but we had an autistic guy that would come into our arcade in the 90s and reset Pac Man on 1 token.
904ed3 No.14277682
From page 3 of the thread at DK forums:
>I have always been shocked that the first tape was accepted at all. Wiebe's performances were audited to the umpteenth degree, requiring a full accounting of the hardware, etc., only to meet with rejection after rejection on technical grounds. Meanwhile Billy was able to submit audio-less performances (MAME audio would have been a drop-dead giveaway, especially in that era), with no onscreen visual of the player or the cabinet, while utilizing a totally unknown and unprecedented method of video capture.
0b1c04 No.14277704
>>14277682
>actually clicking the link
>not just joining in on the D&C with the shills
Whoa look at this dweebenheimer over here.
3e87e8 No.14278116
>>14272151
>The problem isn't playing on emulation itself, it's that he manipulated the game to give him way more high value objects (blue barrels, I believe) than average.
Looks like it: https://twitter.com/wescopeland_/status/959533103457894400
40782e No.14280360
>>14277612
I'm assuming the highest possible score + getting the kill screen. PacMan was huge for a while and as the record holder it was his claim to fame in the 80s and 90s.
0b1c04 No.14280370
>>14280360
>was huge
It still is. If you say the word "video game" to any random person on the street there's a good chance they immediately think of Pac Man. It's crazy that Namco pretty much refuses to capitalize on that.
f11326 No.14281150
>>14276037
>conditioning yourself to know when to press x and y by repeating a mindlessly uninspiring scripted rotation of whatever pixels a million times over
>skill
9a00ec No.14281235
>>14281150
>hating talented people
you sound like the kind of faggot who cuts your dick off and dresses in drag and then starts a campaign to deny Nolan Bushnell the Pioneer Award.
773f60 No.14281438
>>14277682
Mitchell is friends with everyone at Twin Galaxies, that's why.
98c759 No.14281471
>>14281438
basically the usual incestuous relationship within a certain industry.
ab654a No.14281536
c6b999 No.14281548
>>14277138
>implying finding the most efficient way of getting through a pretend software world is a skill
070e5b No.14282424
>>14272743
make a patreon, you deserve shekels more than sam hyde at this point
dbdc2b No.14282437
>>14281548
>Retarded ESL faggots thinking their opinions matter
This is an English board you filthy nigger.
fbb62d No.14282745
Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play. >>14271867
here's a video about him
1e6a3f No.14284147
>>14284141
Wonder how Walter feels now that Galaxies is pretty much discredited.
4f4cfb No.14284164
>>14284147
dunno, he seems like a typical boomer that can do anything leisurely for profit.
2adebc No.14292049
>>14271876
Not Carmack, he's legit