/v/ - Video Games

>NISA willingly bringing its failure to people's attention

>Localization

Why would you ever do this to yourself? Just play it in Japanese like everyone else

Whats there to talk about?

Its probably still awfull and they didnt get anyone competent enough to do the localization.

>Paying for a NISA product

>Trying to talk about a re-localization patch that is somehow worse than the original machine translation

>>14245508

YAMERO

At this point it's easier to convince myself this game fucking sucks and so did the whole series than keep hoping that they'll release it on PC and then someone would fix it and I'd pirate it.

I remember seeing some comparisons of the "fixed" translation and it looked like it was actually worse. I don't know how it turned out. It's a shame because I'm hearing from a lot of long time Ys fans that it's possibly the best Ys ever.

>>14245520

/thread

>>14246420

Origin is better but it's good.

>>14246408

You are retarded aren't you? There's a fan-slation already more than halfway done iirc that's ready to be completed if NISA fucked this shit up (which they likely did) and it will be fixed

There's already a fanslated version on the Vita if you'd want that, and the rest of the Ys series was already done well enough by Xseed

So when does it crash and brick the console?

Here's some of the names I saw on gamefags.

Okeanos - Oceanus

Nameless Slasher - Nameless Ripper

Archeozoic Big Hole - Archeozoic Chasm

Katherine - Kathleen

Aaron - Euron

Kashu - Katthew

>>14246485

>There's already a fanslated version on the Vita

No, it's an inject of NISA's english script.

>>14246485

The fan translation that was announced was put on hold when NISA announced their second attempt. I haven’t checked recently, but to my knowledge it is still, at this point, shelves until they decide to pick it up again. The Vita version as the anon above said is just an inject.

>>14247638

>>14247606

You're shitting me, that's just fucking great…

Hopefully the fanslation finished within the month then

>>14247665

>finished within the month

Extremely unlikely

>Yeast

>>14246829

Why do they feel the need to change shit like this? They aren't even censoring anything for political reasons this is just change for the sake of it.

>>14246829

are they more faithful? or is NISA just retarded

>>14245508

>>14245516

>>14247749

Why haven't fan translators directly contacted japanese game developers to tell them how bad NISA is yet? They only keep getting away with their stupid shit because japanese developers don't have any idea what western customers truly experience. Worse is if they think that we want shit censored and changed.

>>14247768

The japs don’t care. As long as they get money, that’s all they care about.

>>14247833

Still worth a try

Never pay for anything done by NISA, even if it is well done. Their past sins shall never be forgiven.

>>14247768

This.

Contact Falcom directly, and if even that does not make them abandon NISA, boycott their products and never give them money.

Leftists have no place in this industry.

>>14247768

>Why haven't fan translators directly contacted japanese game developers to tell them how bad NISA is yet?

Why haven't you? Why do you wait for everyone else to fix things for you while you just bitch to anons that largely share your opinion?

>>14247938

People did it for Ys VIII

If they announce NISA as their localization team for CS3 I'll join in the fucking thing, fuck them

Can´t wait to get my hands on a GOG torrent. Not giving any cent to these fucks.

>>14247745

The more they say required change, the more they can ask for in terms of payment. Whether it was necessary or not is secondary.

>>14246420

Heard that myself, but didn't see much proof, at least as of yet from anons familiar with the Japanese script. Regardless, I wouldn't put past NISA to act in petty spite like that.

>Fuck up English script horribly as fans expect.

>Fans whine to the devs/Japanese publishers (in Ys' case, Falcom being both).

>Japanese company slaps your shit, tells you to go back and fix it without additional pay (IE: "do your fucking job right the first time and this shit doesn't happen").

>Fuck around more because fuck you, you don't tell us how to handle your games.

In other words, I'm going to wait until some moonspeakers can actually do a comparison and can confirm that the new script is on point. Until then, to me, it's not. And no, I did not buy the game, particularly after hearing NISA had been the one to grab it.

>>14246829

Do they not have access to variable width fonts or something for the game? Because that's an actual technical reason, albeit something of an outdated one given it's prevalence being more common in fourth gen and earlier. And of course, that doesn't account for Aaron -> Euron (same letter count) or Kashu -> Katthew (more letters; sounds lispy). And I'm sure there's a more apt way to call something a big hole without making it sound like a canyon of some sort. "Hollow" or something.

>>14247745

Probably a mixture of >>14250872 and exercising "creative" writing "talent".

>>14250872

By now I imagine leftists ruin Japanese games out of simple spite. They do it so nobody can enjoy them.

>>14250981

And/or in the case of Working Designs (now Gaijinworks), because they feel they can write a more entertaining, "punched up" script, and because they outright admit that their fans don't expect accuracy from them anyhow and that if someone wants accuracy from them, they get the "fuck off and learn moon, you're not our audience" treatment.

>>14251004

Is there any reason why leftists and their families shouldn't be rounded up and massacred? Anything?

>>14250952

Not to defend them, but are we positive that it was supposed to be "Kashu" and not "Katthew"? I ask that because That Fate Phone game had a similar issue with one of the characters, that for the longest time the playerbase called the main girl "Mashu" until the JP Valentine's day came out and had english lettering on a cake that said "Matthew" instead.

I mean it didn't matter in the end, they changed it the following year to "Mashu" but, maybe it's a romaji thing? I've no idea why change the other things though.

>>14251013

Normally I'd just say to grab the moonrunes from a wiki or something (assuming it's a big enough character to warrant a blurb, if not a page), but (((Wikipedia)))'s Ys VIII page is barebones as fuck and there's no page for that character on Ys wiki as of now. Anyhow, while I suppose games are no stranger to odd names or naming conventions, but depending on the game, or prior games in the series, one might be able to see if it's a name that can be left as is/just have the spelling tweaking, or not. Also, "Cashew" is at least a word, albeit not name.

>>14251009

Some localization companies that aren't based in liberal hives/soon to be blue states would be a nice start. Unfortunately Silicon Valley is big and appealing and (in terms of anime) Funimation and other voicing stuff hold base in Texas.

To use some samples of where a number of third party publishers/localizers are at:

>8-4: Shibuya, Japan (no burger headquarters listed)

>Acttil: Los Angeles, Commiefornia

>Aksys: Torrence, Commiefornia

>NISA: Santa Ana, Commiefornia

>Working Designs/Gaijinworks: Redding, Commiefornia

>XSEED: Torrance, Commiefornia

Ignoring quality variance for a moment, that is a lot of Commifornia amongst surviving third party localization teams.

As an aside, I also decided to check for a smaller, defunct company I've heard of called ZPang America (apparently later called ZPang Dynamic Translations). I had to resort to trying an archive, only even then I had no fucking luck for a while because somehow they coded their webpage to, within a second of loading in the archive format, automatically call from the current domain, which causes it to immediately jump from a glimpse of their old site to their currently "for sale" bluehost domain that no one's bought because ZPang means nothing to anyone else. Took many attempts (namely finding that the 2011 archive is still functional) to find an answer: Unlisted. If it was there, it was probably in the downloadable information sheet, which no one bothered to archive. On a better note, I now have something I was looking for before: A list of all works prior to closure.

>>14251170

>and other voicing stuff hold base in Texas

Dallas is a known leftist cesspit the rest of Texas would like to see nuked off the face of the planet.

>that is a lot of Commifornia amongst surviving third party localization teams

Why is it always California? What is wrong with that shithole of a state? It used to be red 30 years ago, right?

Honest to God I don't know any realistic solution to the problem. The only way out is if someone autistic enough were to gather up the capital to start their own company and then screen every single employee for leftism and blacklist them, but no one with that kind of money would waste it on such an exhausting and thankless job.

>ZPang America

Where did you dig this name from? Far as I can gather they never worked on any noteworthy projects.

All I want is the fucking game and the people I know who played the beta said that ran that ass. And then they went around and released a statement along the lines of "We gotta change the game's code now, but we're retards so we'll let someone else do it"

>>14251209

>Why is it always California? What is wrong with that shithole of a state? It used to be red 30 years ago, right?

The western coastal side is a liberal hellhole, the rural farmlands wanted the fuck out with their own state for decades to ditch the parasitic groids and mosquitoes.

>>14251209

>Dallas is a known leftist cesspit the rest of Texas would like to see nuked off the face of the planet.

Austin first please. Then Dallas would be fine.

>Why is it always California? What is wrong with that shithole of a state? It used to be red 30 years ago, right?

Reagan happened.

>>14251209

>Why is it always California? What is wrong with that shithole of a state?

Silicon Valley, I suppose.

>It used to be red 30 years ago, right?

I remember hearing on /pol/ the state had a vote about what to do with illegals some decades back, only for the state to ignore the people's vote of ship them back, thus the current shithole.

>Where did you dig this name from? Far as I can gather they never worked on any noteworthy projects.

Was in the credits of a game I liked. I paid attention trying to figure out who exactly had handled the script (something I'm more apt to do now; can be fun finding companies you never heard of that did a more-or-less good job, but are who-knows-what-happened-to-them-tier) and they popped up. I'm not sure how big a team they actually had there though (and they were a media translator, not publisher), as the "games handled" list includes stuff from back when their (lead?) translator, (((Jeremy Blaustein))), was at Konami way back in the nineties/early 2000s working on stuff like Snatcher, MGS, and Symphony of the Night. Could have just been his own eventual frontend company to more easily find work.

>>14251277

Also a link to the archive page with the works listed on it. Again, the question is whether their listed works just represent his works given how far back it goes (if it was a personal company and he the sole employee, then to some degree it's still accurate, if you ask me):

https://web.archive.org/web/20110424073821/http://www.zpang.com:80/english/clients.php

>>14251415

>censorship-supporting leftists

Why the redundancy?

>>14251209

>Why is it always California?

When it comes to video games, the West is cancer, and California's about as West as you can go.

>>14245508

>Localization

Why don't i go suck someones cock instead?