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>not spending the time before the final "NO TURNING BACK NOW" dungeon to revisit places and check for final sidequests

Where do you ultra casuals come from? You want to save the world you fucking work for it.

>>14240200

That isn't the "no turning back now" point, though. It's literally a short stop, at the very place you started the game at, to get your last spell and to open up the final dungeon. It's also right next to the main town of the game, where you'll be going, anyway, to upgrade your swords and complete a few side quests.

>>14240211

Not even worth it, you can sweep the endgame with just Yuna's final weapon.

>>14240235

I know, but I'm trying to go full autism. It feels like I could play it for eight hours straight and get nowhere, then pick it up one day and get it in the first ten minutes. I hate that shit.

>>14240326

Man, that's honestly even worse. It baffles me why devs still do things like that. I understand that they used to do it to help sell strategy guides and such, but FFXII was released well past that era. Does the international release fix it?

>>14240407

>Does the international release fix it

It fixes it by removing the missable spawn entirely. The whole Zodiac Spear meme is overblown because it isn't a very useful weapon. In the International release only certain jobs can equip it so its even more worthless.

>>14240326

This picture reminds me, I hate it when basic weapons look nice and practical but the best weapons look like deformed fucktarded abominations.

I'm playing DQ Heroes II and a godsend feature is being able to change the skin of your weapon, so I make everything look like the non-retarded basic gear.

<cutscene before the final boss opens up all the actual sidequests

>you can save after the credits

<this is explicitly for new game+ so either way you'd need a guide to ever know about this shit

>>14240468

You got a specific game in mind?

>>14240529

Digital Devil Saga

>>14240211

Thats not the worst one. Having to dodge 200 lightning bolts in a row is complete bullshit.

>>14240188

They used to do shit like that to sell strategy guides.

In Persona 1 you grt the bad end if you answer the dialogue wrong at what would be roughly 50% of the way through the game. Getting the bad end means the story ends abruptly about 75% through. There is no clear correct option in the dialogue that decides whether you get the bad end, and you won't even know if you got the bad end until many hours later.

It is a fun game but boy that made me mad.

>>14240863

3D Dot Game Heroes is a ps3 game, though. It was released well after the point people started using the internet instead of strategy guys.

>>14240638

Much easier than the chocobo shit since you can actually fucking control it.

>>14240638

The lightning bolts are super easy to do. There's a spot in the thunder plains where every time you walk over it lightning will strike. You can dodge 200 bolts in like 20 minutes.

This is just like Cave Story's "Don't go down the pit to check what just fell down, instead just skip it" sequence to save Curly Brace.

Nothing you've done before prepares you for this moment and everyone will learn about it through external sources.

>>14241533

You're kinda correct. Cave Story is developed with multiple playthroughs in mind. You're supposed to get the crappy booster in your first playthrough. Then, at the end, you're supposed to read Booster's journal and see the big flashing text about how he can make a better booster if he survives. The bullshit part isn't "how are you supposed to know not to investigate him when he falls your first time", but "how are you supposed to know that ignoring him causes him to survive." There's a little hint where it's implied Booster willfully passes on because he managed to give you the booster and fulfilled his last wish, and thus, if he doesn't give you the booster, he hangs on so that he can give it to you later, but it hardly counts.

>>14241533

>and everyone will learn about it through external sources.

The game flat out tells you there's a better version of the booster. Meanwhile, both your gun and missiles get better upgrades the longer you put off upgrading them.

The real bullshit is that the tow rope inexplicably disappears when you get the mk1 (and if you fetch it before the fight, the door locks behind you).

>>14242149

It flat-out tells you there's a better version of the booster. It doesn't flat-out tell you that you're just supposed to ignore Booster to get it. There's a complete disconnect between "Booster can make a better booster" and "If you ignore Booster when he falls and dies, he actually doesn't die and gives you that better booster". There's no way to come to that conclusion on your own. I love Cave Story, but that part is incredible bullshit.

Saving Curly is also pretty shitty. If you don't use a guide, you have to re-do the same shit over and over again essentially to figure out what the right sequence of actions is. The first time I just tried to carry her out with me. When I found the bed, I put her in the bed and left, and she died. I ended up having to re-do that whole section like 7 times before she survived, and it's not really satisfying because it's essentially just guessing until it works.

>>14242594

I had no problem with that. I did get stuck on the hidden village though

>>14242149

>>14242286

Saving Curly is complete bullshit. There is a tiny amount of sense in the Booster thing, but only if your line of thought is "well if I don't take it from him now, maybe he has more time to tinker with it and make it better." That's a pretty uncertain guess to gamble an entire playthrough's worth of time on though. I certainly didn't make it but in retrospect it makes a slight amount of sense. Maybe the journal text was less ambiguous in the original Japanese?

>>14242635

It fucked me up. It's not a vital quest by any means (I think it only gets you a non-mandatory spell, but you don't know that it's not necessary when you do it). There's literally no way to tell that you have to attack the background, and nothing in the game beforehand prepared you for that possibility. I only found it later by accident while fucking around in the town. Such stupid shit.

>>14242672

That would have made sense if he didn't die when he gave you the booster. The sane thought is that he would have just died anyway. It would have to be clear that he wouldn't have died if you didn't talk to him. Maybe the Japanese made it more clear.

>>14242762

The only one worth it is Auron's because First Strike is a pain in the ass to synthesize and it's just so easy to get.

>>14242947

<cuckooland

Wow, now I know why yooka laylee was a shit game, fucking numale developers I swear.

>>14240211

So much of that game seems like it was designed to not be fun. Maxing out the sphere grid was a horrible grind, getting the materials to get good skills on your weapons was a horrible grind, removing every single stat sphere and replacing them with better spheres was an absolutely monstrous grind, getting the materials to then make end/postgame weapons was both a massive grind and entirely RNG since you were bribing monsters for hundreds of thousands of gil in the hopes that they'd drop something good. Holy fuck, it baffles me every day how bad the actual game part of that game was. The music was great, the art was great, the writing was trash, but the actual play was a disaster.