76a37f No.14203173
Made this thread since I noticed Verdun was on sale.
Why is World War I so overlooked as a whole compared to World War II? There's plenty of series in FPS (Medal of Honor, Battlefield, Call of Duty), RTS games (Company of Heroes) to RTT games (Men of War) and then Grand Strategy (Hearts of Iron) but barely anything compared to the first war. The only games I know of are Verdun, Battle of Empires, and half assed attempts in Victoria II and Battlefield Kangs that aren't mods for other games.
World War I introduced a lot of new crazy shit (machineguns, planes, tanks, gas) while still using old philosophy (rank formations, horseback cavalry, projectile throwers) combined with an absolute autistic sperg for a Kaiser and retarded outdated diplomacy that made it an utter shitshow and the angsty growing teenager of modern warfare.
6d7cf1 No.14203181
Second Reich > Third Reich
5f7299 No.14203187
Can't really make money without killing nazis
e50aa7 No.14203196
Is there any way to play a pirated version of verdun with bots for example
e7ba9d No.14203218
Because WW1 was a moral grey in terms of Hollywood good vs bad bullshit. It isn't like WW2, where it's hurrdurr neva forget the 6000000 gorillion nadsis are bad goys. In WW1, everyone was using chemical weapons, everyone had concentration camps, everyone was fighting just for clay in Africa.
e50aa7 No.14203221
Also, any good singleplayer ww1 games? I've already played battle of empires and I don't like necrovision. Why did the one ww1 fps have to be fucking multiplayer
4a9857 No.14203227
>>14203173
Why did they end up nerfing the arty in a ww1 game? ive spent so much time playing this shit on console that it's a waste of time to even use explosives, its more efficient to just focus on shooting people.
>>14203196
Theres a shitty horde mode, but it isnt fun and is only really good for grinding squad xp with a friend.
76a37f No.14203229
>>14203221
Technically Victoria II does have World War I in it, but it's just so half assed since it's a country simulator than an army sim like HoI is.
248594 No.14203265
>>14203218
>>14203221
>The only two WW1 games with a single player story have the Central Powers portrayed as bad guys
>You can't even play as any of the Central Powers in one of the games
1e30c0 No.14203272
>>14203173
who would they sell it too?
Euros view it as that time they killed the ever loving shit out of each other for reasons people still aren't sure of to this day.
America views it as "the first time the French got flanked through Belgium" and have a huge list of embarrassing failures they want to forget about.
The Chinese view it as "that other time we got our ass kicked by the Japanese"
The Japanese aren't allowed to view any modern war positively
Really the only people who view it positively are the Canucks
e50aa7 No.14203275
>>14203229
Yeah I forgot about Victoria but it kind of defeats the purpose for me, if I wanted to use my imagination I'd read Céline's accounts of the war, they're much more vivid.
6d7cf1 No.14203277
>>14203265
>You can't even play as any of the Central Powers in one of the games
Try Necrovision Lost Company
e50aa7 No.14203280
6d7cf1 No.14203284
>>14203229
>>14203275
Oh and Rule the Waves is pretty good for simulating the naval side of the WW1-era even if it isn't strictly speaking WW1. Also has a CSA alt-history option and plenty of mods for more nations.
There's also Blitzkrieg and Men of War WW1 versions out there but be warned the latter will try and jew you for DLC if you get the legitfag version.
786dd7 No.14203287
>>14203173
WW1 was a very interesting conflict, a shame that there aren't more games about it. That comradery even to enemy soldiers was a thing we never say again in history. I once had a image of russian prisoners in vienna, walking down the street in their uniforms. Nobody cared that they were there, there weren't any austrian soldiers or policemen anywhere in sight either. We'll probably never see something like that again.
76a37f No.14203288
>>14203284
>Men of War WW1 versions out there but be warned the latter will try and jew you for DLC if you get the legitfag version.
Battle of Empires. It's a shame really that the devs are just assholes and started ripping out content to sell back later (ie. Tanks) going "This was just for beta testing, this wasn't feature complete" with more planned DLC still left.
76a37f No.14203382
>>14203227
They rebuffed it or something. There was a fairly massive update that came out to merge Verdun with Tannenburg.
bc6404 No.14203391
>>14203287
This timeline may be interesting, but it sucks.
bc6404 No.14203392
>>14203287
This timeline may be interesting, but it sucks.
4a9857 No.14203418
>>14203382
too bad ill never get it since fucking nobody bought plebsole verdun, id like to blame the devs but it's obvious im the one at fault here. i take it that's why those screenshots >>14203173 look so much nicer than what im used to then?
>>14203391
you know, i think being overly honourable in war is stupid. but at the same time i kind of think they were right to promise not to run off when they were captured. Part of the point of the geneva convention is not just to protect those who surrender but to protect combatants from false surrender. im not sure why trying to circumvent capture (which can and did involve mutual combat) wasn't dealt with more harshly than it was.
76a37f No.14203426
>>14203418
Yeah, the graphics of PC Verdun were overhauled several times compared to console Verdun. The most recent update adds shader options but does need a bit of tweaking.
3334eb No.14203442
>>14203272
>The Chinese view it as "that other time we got our ass kicked by the Japanese"
They fought on the same side in WW1, though the Chinese never contributed combat troops since they didn't officially declare war until 1917 and no one wanted them to take Chinese clay back
>>14203218
This, it's a moral grey and also it's out of people's memories. While WW2 is often the focusing point for teaching kids history, WW1 is ignored or not talked about nearly as much.
I suspect it's also because subconsciously everyone recognizes what a massive mistake the war was. It destroyed nearly everyone involved and marked the beginning of the end of European power
d18c1f No.14203456
Because people think it's trench warfare and they never teach it in schools.
>Why is World War I so overlooked as a whole compared to World War II?
Because jews can't exploit it.
76a37f No.14203514
>>14203456
That's because US schools will spend a month alone on the civil war and what it meant for slavery, but then one day on WW1 and maybe 2 on WW2. Even the Great Depression gets a week of coverage.
1e30c0 No.14203565
>>14203442
You're right I'm confusing it with the other wars in close proximity to ww1
986930 No.14203599
>>14203173
What the fuck is this OP? Where are the automatics and blacks? What a shit thread, downvoted :^)
In all seriousness though World War I games are dead.
>>14203221
There was one FPS horror game being made in World War I but I forgot the name of it, either way it was looking somewhat walking simulator-ish.
1cd786 No.14203608
>Why is World War I so overlooked as a whole compared to World War II?
There was no clear bad guy in the conflict. It was an utterly meaningless conflict that only caused untold misery in the world.
>Tens of millions young men died in combat
>Entire generation murdered
>Many European civilians starved to death over it
>European leaders needlessly continuing the war despite the starvation, misery, death, and economic destruction
>Russian Monarchy going full retard
>Kaiser Wilhelm and Ludendorff sent in Lenin to start a revolution to knock Russia out of the war four years too late while the German army is starving, completely demoralized, causing the cancer of Communism to take hold over Russia
>France and Britain's hate boner completely fucked over Germany post-war
1cd786 No.14203609
>Why is World War I so overlooked as a whole compared to World War II?
There was no clear bad guy in the conflict. It was an utterly meaningless conflict that only caused untold misery in the world.
>Tens of millions young men died in combat
>Entire generation murdered
>Many European civilians starved to death over it
>European leaders needlessly continuing the war despite the starvation, misery, death, and economic destruction
>Russian Monarchy going full retard
>Kaiser Wilhelm and Ludendorff sent in Lenin to start a revolution to knock Russia out of the war four years too late while the German army is starving, completely demoralized, causing the cancer of Communism to take hold over Russia
>France and Britain's hate boner completely fucked over Germany post-war
986930 No.14203614
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14203599
Actually nevermind, I found it.
1d2cf7 No.14203620
>>14203608
>>14203608
Actually France and England and their side were the bad guys. When you look at the justifications and casus belli they Austrian and German alliance was in the right.
Funny how it was MUSLIMS that kicked off this WW1.
1cd786 No.14203634
>>14203620
>Gavrilo Princip
>Muslim
3334eb No.14203650
>>14203620
>France and England and their side were the bad guys
Not at all
Everyone was planning for war, the Germans wanted to smash Russia before 1916 due to their industrial expansion, the French wanted revenge for 1871 and to regain the position of premier continental power, the eternal anglos wanted to break up the continental powers since they were starting to represent a threat to British power, and the Austrians wanted to prove that they weren't a dying empire and they could still "fight"
>the justifications and casus belli
>Serbs give in to all demands but one, everyone but Austrians agree it's reasonable and that the Serbs are bending over backwards for Austria
>Austrians chimp out anyways
32d851 No.14203663
>>14203614
> 1 min of actual gameplay
> Couldn't conceal bethesda-like physics
> Horrible lag, official gameplay footage
> 99% walking >1% right click event
Who's going to buy this?
fa2a16 No.14203672
Because historically accurate WW1 gameplay means sitting in a trench until you die from artillery or rushing across flat land into a machine gun emplacement. Like it or not, BF1 is probably the closest to a WW1 game you'll see as a major release.
1b6715 No.14203801
>>14203650
Not only that, but even the one point that Serbia didn't concede, their answer was that they would accept for it to be submitted to a council at the Hage. Austria - Hungary didn't want it because Conrad von Hotzendorff wanted war anyway, and because Austria - Hungary always got outvoted on the Hage.
Also even the Kaiser saw that the Serbian answer was adequate (his famous "all cause for war is lost" observation).
My favorite thing about WW 1 is that it was started because of pan-Slavic sentiments, right? Then the Slave get the opportunity to finally become ye Great Yugoslavia, and what happens? It is kept together only by the force of a dictator, and when the dictator dies, the supposedly "Slavic Brotherhood" dies with him, and "balkanization" becomes a well known concept. In resume, WW 1 was fought for LITERALLY NOTHING.
8055d9 No.14203805
>>14203173
WW1 was mostly static lines with soldiers cowering in holes trying not to choke on gas. Forward progression was not something that happened. Nor were there any particularly over-the-top or memorable operations such as WW2'S Chariot, Overlord, etc
6d7cf1 No.14204014
>>14203650
If only Wilhelm II had listened to Bismarck we could maybe have had an Anglo-German alliance.
76a37f No.14204534
>>14204014
Wilhelm had autism, you just need to understand.
>Goes into Britain for an interview
>Makes an ass of himself by talking shit about everyone in Europe outside of Austria before the war
>Ends up pulling Britain into the war due to walking into Belgium
>Then pulls isolationist America in by going "Mexico, help us and we'll help you reclaim your lands from the Americans"
c17419 No.14204601
>>14203173
Now, I don't know much about WWI, but I do know that those motherfuckers spent the majority of their time in trenches playing the waiting game, and that No Man's Land was filled with the corpses of the retarded.
From a gameplay perspective, what can you do to make trench warefare fun? If you're gonna eschew the trench warefare in favor of tanks and planes and shit, then you're sort of making a mech styled game that is focused on vehicular combat. The big thing is FPS cawwadieutyshit where you run and gun and throw grenades and shit. Finally, people don't give a fuck about historical accuracy, so you may get a game in which some weapons are modeled with authenticity but that will operate in a way that is not authentic at all. Not to mention the forced diversity shit.
d8360c No.14204662
9f16ba No.14204689
>>14203609
>smoking
She should be spanked for that.
d5429c No.14204698
e7ba9d No.14204737
>>14204662
>/v/
>playing games
ab41c1 No.14204788
>>14203614
>that FPS
I know it's
>muh pre alpha
but still, that's bad for a trailer.
6d7cf1 No.14204917
>>14204534
>Makes an ass of himself by talking shit about everyone in Europe outside of Austria before the war
Also Japan.
76a37f No.14204947
>>14204662
A Verdun gamenight would be pretty rad, especially if it could be figured out how to pirate it.
76a37f No.14205040
>>14204698
>Blames Churchill on World War I
>Thinks America was a superpower before 1945
>Thinks America used to balance the budget by having a gold standard despite the fact the only time the budget was properly balanced was with Jackson
>Doesn't think there was any outside influences on America even during the time when America was called a Melting Pot
The fuck is this? Germany is a nation full of autists that don't understand diplomacy and got their asses kicked twice as a result. How is this accurate at all to World War I let alone any other point in American history?
e50aa7 No.14205076
>>14204947
I would love that too, though I'm actually going to buy it since a friend said he'd play with me.
Forgive me piracy gods for what I'm about to do.
6d7cf1 No.14205122
>>14205040
>thechristiansolution.com
442925 No.14205167
>>14203614
>>14203599
>first-person WWI horror
This one's pretty good. It's very short but it's free.
http://www.moddb.com/games/1916
b57ebc No.14205253
>>14203173
It's not fast paced enough to keep people interested. Everyone needs to have a high powered machine gun (and a specialty skill if there are classes. The only way I could see a WW1 game being good is if it were an MMO like Planetside. You could holocaust an entire map with chlorine gas and it wouldn't be that big of a deal, as opposed to the standard FPS where there is no connection between maps. Having a hierarchy that gives actual strategy would be fun too. Although I imagine it would need to be an AI or the game devs making a lot of decisions.
2a14ca No.14205414
>>14203805
The somme, paschendale, gallipoli?
76a37f No.14205609
>>14203805
>Bombing of London
>Battle of the Somme
>Christmas armstice
WW1 has a lot of great moments, too bad all people think of are trenches.
986930 No.14205756
>>14205167
Oh I remember this one too, I even played it a long time ago, shame it was so short.
ef6727 No.14205883
Even if you take the politics out of it I imagine a lot of devs get hung up on the European trench fronts and can't figure out a good wy to translate that into something that will be fun/exciting for the player assuming the boots on the ground role. Battlefield 1 seemed to try to spice it up a bit but missed the mark and i dunno what the hell it was going for by the end. You'd have to think of a good system to allow trench raids that give the players a means to get into the down and dirty of beating a man to death with your shovel in a hole in the ground without getting turned into hamburger strewn across barbed wire first.
ef6727 No.14205916
>>14205609
serbian campaign could be interesting too
4ebb31 No.14206094
>>14205916
The Defense of Belgrade would be a wonderful thing.
76a37f No.14206325
>>14205916
>Most World War I history doesn't even cover the fact the Ottomans got involved in the war and genocided Armenians
89f6d3 No.14208074
>>14203287
At least for a while, WW1 aviators were total bros to one another.
>"I dived on him like a hawk and fired my machine gun," [Immelmann] wrote. :For a moment I thought I was going to fly right into him." The other plane tried to turn away, but Immelmann "flew alongside him and cut off his line of retreat." Immelmann climbed again, attacked, then repeated the maneuver. At last the other plane went down in a steep glide, with the E.I on its tail. "When I saw him land," Immelmann wrote, "I went down beside him, climbed out, and went up to him." The downed pilot held out his right hand. "I shook hands and said: 'Bonjour, monsieur,' but he answered in English."
>'Ah, you are an Englishman?'
<'Yes'
>'You are my prisoner.'
<My arm is broken; you shot very well.'
0a9db7 No.14208080
>>14206325
>play as Ottoman
>march into Russia
>starve and freeze to death
>blame and kill Armenians
6d7cf1 No.14208112
>>14208074
WW1 was pretty weird like that in general.
02be5f No.14208115
>>14203599
>nigger in the german empire
>nigger in the british empire
>homosexual copypasted poses
2dbe21 No.14208217
>>14205167
>>14205756
If I remember right, The students that made this game were supposed to make a "full" game in the same style set in ww1. I guess the project died since we never had any news from it in years.
Shame.
02be5f No.14208218
>>14208194
REEEEEEEEEEE
However the russians did use quite a few women in WW2 as radio operators because you can hear female voices better, as well as medics and other support roles, no idea about WW1 though. They sure as hell weren't front line muh badass soldiers
2285ac No.14208278
>>14203173
>Why is World War I so overlooked as a whole compared to World War II?
It's not as well known and is way more complex politics-wise. You don't have as much as a clear villain like in World War II (for normalfags at least). Also, people like >>14203805 think that WWI was only the western front, while shit like the Eastern Front and Mesopotamia were pretty mobile and had large offensives like the Brusilov offensive.
>>14204534
>Then pulls isolationist America in by going "Mexico, help us and we'll help you reclaim your lands from the Americans"
Oh fuck, I remember that. That's a good way to buttfuck your war effort on the short term. Yes, I know the US was supporting the Entente economically, still the americans weren't in any shape to start fighting right away.
0a0141 No.14208304
>>14208194
I just don't know why they don't add an east african campaign to the game and make an african fighting faction there
d8360c No.14208323
>>14208304
TBH I wish they would add a proper customization system, even the new CoDs allow players to change the face and gender of their character.
66dcfc No.14208406
>>14203272
>Really the only people who view it positively are Canucks
This.
As a FUCKING leaf when remembrance day comes around it's like 60% WW1 and even our history classes actually focus on WW1 too.
Ironically the only fucking pride we have left in this shithole of a country is our contribution and fight in WW1 and 2, shit man I go downtown every year for Remembrance day, and there's even fucking migrants that come to pay respect.
>>14208115
>Niggers in German faction
Even the fucking Calvary class is a nigger so you even see fucking niggers on horses with pickelhaubes. The best part about that was how they were supposed to represent the Askari but I guess DICE was too fucking lazy to do an Africa themed DLC so they threw them in Europe even though the Germans never fucking used them. I still love how even fucking normies gave Dice a shitfit over it.
>Niggers in the British
Doesn't bother me as much but the nigger should really only be in the Middle East maps. The pajeet I'm totally fine with and they were used enough in Europe to justify them being there.
>>14208218
They did have 1 or 2 battalions of women fighting in 1917 but like "much based Kurdish womyn" they were primarily a propaganda tool to boost morale instead of actually fighting.
I think in total it was like 5'000 women in WW1, though in WW2 the Soviets used a lot more women, most of them being snipers so you can bet your ass if DICE makes a WW2 game the Soviets will have the recon class be a woman again which I'm fine with honestly, at least there was more of them than in WW1
d8360c No.14208429
>>14208406
>They did have 1 or 2 battalions of women fighting in 1917 but like "much based Kurdish womyn" they were primarily a propaganda tool to boost morale instead of actually fighting.
When they announced that DLC I remember people saying that Dice was implying that these female batallions were fighting for the Tsar but in reality Dice fucked up because it was the opposite. Is it true?
ce496c No.14208458
>>14208429
ID might change cause my college has shit WiFi and I'm switching in between it and data
If you really want to get technical they didn't, as they were formed after the February revolution and the ousting of the Tsar. But they didn't fight for the Bolsheviks or the commies. I guess it's fine to throw them under the Russian Empire as they still "fought" for the state but not the Tsar.
afdd04 No.14208495
Because WW2 was the first real modern war, in the sense of combined arms (army, navy and air force).
WW1 had planes, tanks and subs but they were all very primitive or prototypes. They hardly made a difference either, whereas in WW2 you had the Battle of Kursk with a fuckton of tanks blasting eachother, or the Battle of Midway in the Pacific. Air control was integral, it allowed the allies to bomb the krauts with impunity. For the first time in history aircraft played a huge role in determining the outcome of a war.
WW2 is more interesting because it had so much fucking shit going on in such a little timespan, it also saw the creation of the first commandos and special forces like the SAS. There's so much content and interesting theaters (West Europe, Eastern Europe, North-Africa, Pacific) you can make a game out of.
WW1 was largely static and let's be honest the uniforms looked pretty dumb, it's the awkward transition between Napoleonic musket era to the industrial era.
24e936 No.14208590
>>14208495
>Uniforms looked pretty dumb
You just have shit taste.
>awkward transition between Napoleonic musket era to the industrial era
What the actual fuck are you on about? At the start of WW1 the industrial era was in full fucking swing and the industrial revolution had already happened. There were already "modern" wars before WW1 like the Boer wars it was just never to the same scale.
>WW1 was largely static
Depends on the year and place, 1914 was very mobile and 1918 had massive amounts of movement with all the offensives being done. Go read up more than just your high school class and you'll find it wasn't as static as it's made out to be.
a06db4 No.14208592
>>14208495
Barring the uniform bit, this is spot on. Also WW2 was the one very moment in time where, kikes or not, the entire world lost their goddam collective minds. The Japanese managed to shame their own veterans and educated kids into throwing themselves into the enemy because of a single oil tanker that caught on fire because of a Kamikaze attack, Axis, Allies and Comintern were all throughout the war actively fighting each other, their allies and their allies' allies (Nazi expeditionary forces in Ethiopia vs Italians prior to the pact, Soviets vs. Mao, American Japanese against their homeland etc.) for a billion reasons, German bureaus were fighting among themselves so much so that it makes CIA vs FBI wars look like school kids slapping each other, the combined efforts of America, Japan, Germany and Soviets broke through several scientific accomplishment in a matter of less than a decade just to shoot each other more efficiently, there were more Nazi supporters worldwide than actual German Nazis (Netherlands needs dem bikes) and a Finnish farmer with outdated equipment shot down so many men the Soviet Union created entire battalions trying to stop them (never really thinking about making their uniforms pure white first).
WWI as a setting though is pretty cool for anything not war related. Eternal Darkness has a chapter based on it IIRC.
7e3bad No.14208830
>>14208217
>>14205167
thats a damn shame they didn't get to complete it, its a golden opportunity right there,
gonna check out that link, is it a mod for anything?
but on the subject, WW1 is much more suitable for terror, I remember reading some articles about the scientific experimentation that took place in the period
people back then had much less knowledge, on par with that the reports on new war weapons were pretty horrific,
like for example gasses there were thrown in the trenches and killed people in the most bizarre of ways, walking in the aftermath seeing a bunch of corpses with agonizing faces
d5429c No.14208838
>>14208589
Drown yourself in semen, imkikey.
ba86cc No.14209077
>>14203805
>Forward progression was not something that happened
You whippersnappers and your taking a mile a day.
Back in the old days, we were happy we got a meter a day at the expense of ten thousand men.
ba86cc No.14209096
>>14208278
>the americans weren't in any shape to start fighting right away.
It didn't help that when they actually got to the front they used pre-war tactics, by running in a straight line towards machine guns.
4f7df7 No.14209123
>>14204534
>>Then pulls isolationist America in by going "Mexico, help us and we'll help you reclaim your lands from the Americans"
I am still skeptical regarding the authenticity of the Zimmerman telegram
d5429c No.14209134
>>14209123
Kike faked it, like everything else.
>>14204698
40b008 No.14209139
>>14204534
If you want to see the entire relationship of the royal families watch Fall of Eagles.
Wilhelm's a good lad.
d5429c No.14209146
>>14205122
>no argument
>no refutation
>no evidence
*tips fedora*
>>14205040
>Blames Churchill on World War I
Explain how he would come to power without the destruction of Germany and the rise of Hitler as a foil.
>Thinks America was a superpower before 1945
Do you not know anything about pre-1945 global economics?
>Thinks America used to balance the budget by having a gold standard despite the fact the only time the budget was properly balanced was with Jackson
So… with a gold standard. It's DEFINITIONALLY IMPOSSIBLE without one.
>Doesn't think there was any outside influences on America even during the time when America was called a Melting Pot
Despite that kike lie being the de facto standard now for almost a century, Americans don't mix. At all. American whites have the most white DNA of any white group left on Earth. Despite decades of miscegenation propaganda, it's still a sub-1% incidence in reality. Kikes can't crack race.
40b008 No.14209169
>>14209146
>Explain how he would come to power without the destruction of Germany and the rise of Hitler as a foil.
Churchill was already in charge of Gallipoli in WWI, he was a complete idiot in the British aristocracy and wanted Britain to be #1 all the time, even though working with Germany would have been a better solution in the end
4f7df7 No.14209179
>>14209139
He was not a bad person, just incompetent, like literally every other monarch at the time. World War 1 is one of the strongest arguments against monarchy.
d5429c No.14209182
>>14209169
>Churchill was already in charge of Gallipoli in WWI
Explain. how. he. would. come. to. power. Fucking christ, you retard. We're obviously talking about prime ministership.
>wanted Britain to be #1
Which is why he purposely destroyed the British Empire, of course. That certainly worked out well for them.
40b008 No.14209204
>>14209182
>Explain. how. he. would. come. to. power. Fucking christ, you retard. We're obviously talking about prime ministership.
JEWS YOU DUMBASS
He wasn't even supposed to be in power, the British parliament gave it to him after he gave a rant about British greatness in the middle of them considering a peace with Hitler and nobody else had the fortitude to continue it through. He thought Roosevelt was his friend and that America would work with the British after the war; the dumbass didn't realize that with jews, you lose.
a64de3 No.14209447
>>14203609
>no bad guys
It may be so, but there certainly were the good guys in the conflict and those were the nations struggling for independence from the empires. Those stories even contain a lot of popular tropes that would make it easier to sell it to the public.
>fighting for freedom
>underdogs vs big powers
>serving under boss that shits on you
>war heroes doing noble things
But it's a bit too nationalistic theme I guess, plus it goes against the established narrative of "WW1 was so terrible, hellish and pointless". It was terrible and hellish, but not pointless for a lot of peoples. I remember during the history lesson there was a lot about how devastating the war was for Germany, France, Russia, UK and so on, but when we got to the effects of war on our country it was completely different story. The deaths and sacrifices of soldiers made something that was though impossible come true - regaining a homeland. In short, my point is that, WW1 is hard to sell because it's always shown from the old and stale perspective of the big players, not because it's too hard to grasp or something.
1e30c0 No.14209496
>>14209169
Gallipoli destroyed his reputation and power though, so I'm not sure that's a good starting point.
76a37f No.14212183
>>14209447
For the Canadians it's also the definitive war that Canada helped to contribute to, which is why Remembrance Day is pretty much WW1.
3489a6 No.14214611
>>14203599
>germans and brits have niggers in their armies
>turkroaches are all white
7e3bad No.14215284
>>14214611
> turkroaches are all white
> niggah can't even identify ethnicity
< too dumb to racism
76a37f No.14220219
>>14214611
>Confusing Europeans with Semetics
603476 No.14222481
>>14203173
Because WWI is a shit setting for a video game. It's
>sit in trenches
>get arty'd
>arty back
>get out of trenches
>get slaughtered by MG fire
>get back in trenches
>slaughter the enemy with MG fire
>get trenchfoot
All the while there's no change in the frontline. It's too static and too brutal to work properly as a video game. Most definitely not as an FPS.
26a1ba No.14222729
e519ab No.14223165
>>14208495
>>14208592
>>14203173
WWI told as a shooter is boring because of Trench warfare. eastern front is much more interesting if you're on the German Side as we see the earliest developments of Mission Command develop
However, the crux of WWI, the thing that makes it so unique and interesting, is that it marks the end of Monarchy in Europe. It ushers in the 20th Century in such a psychologically grueling way and destroys the very zeitgeist that existed for centuries before it.
F Scott Fitzgerald beautifully summed up the first World War in 'Tender is the Night'. Without the first WWI the 20th century doesn't get shaped the way it did. The Communist revolution of 1917 doesnt happen. NAZI Germany never exists. Hiroshima doesn't happen. Vietnam, Maoist China, Cambodia, etc never happen because there is no communist state to support those upstarts. The Cold War doesn't occur. WWI is the most significant event of the 20th century.
If someone were to make a game set in WWI it has to focus on all of that. It has to capture the essence of the Fitzgerald quote below. It has to show the absolute horror experienced in the war. The sort of horror never imagined before that moment. How that war transformed Europe's landscape permanently go to Verdun today Otherwise it's just a shooter with old technology.
I dream of making this a thing and hope I can achieve it one day
>This western-front business couldn't be done again, not for a long time. The young men think they could do it but they couldn't. They could fight the first Marne again but not this. This took religion and years of plenty and tremendous sureties and the exact relation that existed between the classes. The Russians and Italians weren't any good on this front. You had to have a whole-souled sentimental equipment going back further than you could remember. You had to remember Christmas, and postcards of the Crown Prince and his fiancée, and little cafés in Valence and beer gardens in Unter den Linden and weddings at the mairie, and going to the Derby, and your grandfather's whiskers…This kind of battle was invented by Lewis Carroll and Jules Verne and whoever wrote Undine, and country deacons bowling and marraines in Marseilles and girls seduced in the back lanes of Wurtemburg and Westphalia. Why, this was a love battle–there was a century of middle-class love spent here. This was the last love battle.
ba86cc No.14225051
>>14223165
I thought about this the other day, a plain shooting game wouldn't work.
>go to Verdun today
Thanks but no thanks, I don't want to be blown up by old artillery shells.
e3dd70 No.14225083
>>14223165
>>14225051
Make it a strategy game where every single soldier that you can control has a backstory and the player is encouraged to become attached to them and then have the game force you to run them though the meat grinder.
61c7c0 No.14225085
>>14222481
>Thinking that was WW1
Here's your (You)
7f658e No.14225091
>>14225083
So grimdark Valkyria Chronicles?
e3dd70 No.14225095
9360ac No.14225096
>>14225051
>Thanks but no thanks, I don't want to be blown up by old artillery shells.
Your more likely to be blown up or run over by a mudslime now.
154478 No.14225100
>>14204534
>Then pulls isolationist America in by going "Mexico, help us and we'll help you reclaim your lands from the Americans"
America joined the war because they were rused by Britain and France into thinking it would be an easy loot grab even though Germany was almost winning when America came, they could do this because Austria wrote a secret letter to Britain (or they faked that but thats unlikely) in which Austria asked for a seperate peace because they simply wanted to end this war by now, after all they did get royally fucked, cant blame them. When Germany found out Austria claimed that it didnt know anything about such a letter, so no seperate peace. Britain and France now noticed what such a letter would mean to a third party and showed it off to America claiming that it is proof that Germany and Austria were at their end and they were basically inviting America to get some free reparations because why not. Of course America agreed and only afterwards noticed that they would have to do actual work. Most of this was only possible because Americans had no idea whatsoever about European politics or the state of the war at the time and didnt even really care.
9360ac No.14225122
>>14225100
>America joined the war because they were rused by Britain and France into thinking it would be an easy loot grab
Which it was.
The war was pretty much over at the point the US joined due to the impact on German morale. Before they even had to do anything.
e3dd70 No.14225126
>>14225091
>>14225095
>>14225083
No wait, I have an even better idea
you don't completely control the soldiers, you can give them order but they have stats that determine their ability to comply. Like if their Trauam stat is too high they just sit in the trench rocking back and forth while rats crawl on them.
154478 No.14225262
>>14225122
True. But funnily enough America joining the war made the Germans lose because America thought the Germans were losing but they were actually winning until they knew America joined the war and everything about this war is a clusterfuck
76a37f No.14226516
>>14225262
>Germans were losing but they were actually winning until they knew America joined the war and everything about this war is a clusterfuck
They were losing on nearly every front even before the Americans shown up though.
9adee0 No.14226534
>>14225100
>implying Woodrow "Federal Reserve" WIlson wouldn't have joined the war anyway to "make the world safe for democracy" and collect on British and French loans
2bb1bb No.14226630
>>14226534
Wilson was simply duped into allowing the creation of the Federal Reserve wasn't he? Sold a bill of goods by (((someone))) who had been trying for a long time to get the system implemented. It's hard to blame someone for making a mistake in ignorance.
9adee0 No.14226649
>>14226630
Rockefeller "saved" the economy with a bailout in 1905, he was holding the country hostage with the other (((bankers))) unless Wilson would establish the Fed for "economic security".
9adee0 No.14226669
>>14226649
*seemed to have been J.P. Morgan and 1907, but the point still stands. He was being puppeted by the banks.
e519ab No.14226920
>>14226630
Wilson wanted involved in the War from the start but didnt have the support of the american people. Not until the sinking of the Lucetania anyhow and it was carrying weapons for the British and French
ba86cc No.14228856
>>14226920
The americans are like the kid that waves their hand in front of you face and yelling "I'm not touching you", and then gets pissy when you hit the bastard.
Exactly what they did in ww1 when putting yanks on british vessels and telling the germans that they can't sink them because "america is neutral and americans are allowed to travel in europe without consequence:^)".
e286fe No.14229030
>>14208467
As far as I'm aware there's no proof the portly chick with the black lipstick is their BO, it's just inter-board banter.
93553a No.14230616
>>14228856
>the kid
The thing was America was Chad for the first half of the 20th century and was trolling people to attack him on purpose so he could beat them up.
9469bb No.14230625
>>14230616
Then, after we fucked around at the end of the war we did pic related
76a37f No.14240352
>>14225051
Good thing panoramas and pictures exist so you can see it without being blown up.
89c4e6 No.14240457
>>14223165
>WWI was the last truly romantic war
That's… really heavy actually.
6db024 No.14240485
>>14223165
Where do you think the world would've gone today if there wasn't a WW1?
ee2306 No.14240595
>>14204014
>If only Wilhelm II had listened to Bismarck we could maybe have had an Anglo-German alliance.
The eternal anglo would never let any continental power grow big enough to rival himself, didn't you learn anything from history (not jewish propaganda they teach at schools and universities).
ee2306 No.14240603
>>14225100
>America joined the war because they were controlled by Jewish international bankers, just like gb and france.
Yes. Hence why they made a lot of money with both wars and got a country out of it. They had to genocide most of the Palestinians there themselves though.
e831a1 No.14240699
>>14240352
I've been to quite a few sites on the western trenches. Holy fuck some of the anti-trench craters are big. Three story building deep big.
20d6bc No.14246219
The First World War was not actually the First World War.
It was the Second.
The First World War was actually the Napoleonic War which was fought globally, people forget that.
3334eb No.14246281
>>14246219
>The First World War was actually the Napoleonic War which was fought globally
There were several wars prior to that that arguably were "global" like 7 years war or War of Spanish Succession
631454 No.14248773
>>14246219
>>14246281
Need more games set during this era. especially good naval warfare
52fccf No.14251521
>>14203275
A man of taste and sophistication.
c6bd38 No.14256889
>>14228856
its our leaders, not us
ca2199 No.14256933
>>14226516
>They were losing on nearly every front even before the Americans shown up though.
Are you stupid?
With Russia defeated, Germany not only freed up like 7 Million men for the Western front, it also got control of Europe's breadbasket, the Ukraine.
76a37f No.14265487
>>14256933
It still lost the Western Front, still resulting in it losing the war.