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The game looks too floaty and there is too much HUD on the screen. I dont think that Ill even bother with this game.

>>14145507

I don't have PS+, can I try the beta in single-player or is it online only.

>>14145652

This

I really don't get the hype surrounding this game. It's just so boring.

Still looks like Dissidia 12 is the better of the two. Sucks since I do want Ace and Ramza in a game like this.

Who the fuck thought slowing Dissidia down was a good idea?

>>14145910

It's secondary bait like all crossover games. You too can pretend you played FF1 by using a character that never actually appeared in it using combat techniques that didn't exist.

Who is best boy and why is it Firion?

NO PRISHE NO BUY

>consoleshit

who cares

a thread about another enix shit game opened by this line from op:

>>14145507

> Yes, you bet your sweet anon ass I'm shilling for this

will he kill himself? would he vote for anitfa? does he yell when to many white people use the street? you bet your sweet anon ass he does.

sage goes into email my friends.

>>14152560

here have a random Bartz match I found

>>14152632

>would he vote for anitfa?

Don't be retarded, anon. I won't kill myself yet! Maybe if this game turns up shit, we'll see.

The first Dissidia was pretty great. 012 was not quite as good gameplay-wise IMO, also brought way down by the inclusion of blightning. The gameplay in this one seems ok, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss a lot of things from the previous games (EX bursts, character ability and item customization, some characters' (Firion's) superior movesets). Definitely still not buying a pay-to-use-my-paid-internet-connection console though, but if it comes to PC I'd have some interest.

At least Noctis got transported to a better game. FFXV was a big disappointment.

>>14153140

>Only having 1 break move is absolutely retarded

Sure you get more in the full game.

I hope you do. It'd be stupid not to.

Oh yeah, disable "moogle advice" in the support menu too. Shut that bitch up.

>>14155473

>Ashley Burch is your announcer and will constantly remind you about shit

>Sometimes her voice can be heard in the startup logos

What were they thinking? Also hate how most of the males look like fuckbois. So I went with Golbez and Emperor. Golbez is better for assisting and following up attacks while The Emperor just throws shit out and can be a bitch if left alone to deploy projectiles.

>>14153837

I don't see why that would even be a problem. You have more shit flying at you in Gundam Versus despite being 2v2 and that turned out just fine.

>>14155934

Whoever, you can disable it so it doesn't really matter anymore.

>fuckbois

quit being a nigger.

>>14155934

>Ashley Burch is the moogle

Fucking bullshit, between the non-Story Mode and massive gameplay changes I hate it.

>>14145507

The gacha system is just bonus rolling for shit that you can always buy using gil you get from playing the game. Ramza's not really nerfed Gabranth, he's got a different moveset and the team buffing that makes him a bit different too but he's pretty awesome overall, and extremely faithful to FFT. Game's a ton of fun, once you get used to the team based nature it really feels like it adds a lot more to the base gameplay that they were trying to go for with assists.

>>14146442

The only thing that's slower are the dashes, because they were always dumb as fuck with how good they are honestly. Everything else is practically identical.

>>14159006

>Control's feel fucked

Outside of no way to change jump back to X there's nothing wrong with the controls though.

>Only one hp attack and you can't customize your bravery attacks

One HP attack is the kind of thing you need to get used to, but it works better when you take it as choosing your role and how you play, and it's way more important than how customizing bravery attacks used to be, since if you were a character that actually had extra ones they were usually shit. A lot of them act as two and some people have extra ones anyway.

>No EX mode with a super attack

Ex Skills are the Ex Modes now, and Summons are the Ex Bursts. But some people have them as HP attacks like Cloud and Omnislash.

>Stages are not nearly as interesting or fun to play on as they were on the psp

For every one or two cool stages there were four that were just a pain in the ass. For what they are the stages are nice and look amazing.

>NuChaos is just a re-colored Jecht

More like a recoloured Ansem

>NuCosmos is really stupid looking

Easy access dress holes though.

>The 3v3 is the worst decision they could have made, way too much bullshit is happening at once and its more frustrating than fun to deal with

Nah man, you just have to get a little used to it. It doesn't even take that long, the stages are big enough and it lets you do so much cool shit and makes fights more fun with the scale. Use the map a lot.

>Summons make it even WORSE, thought trying to keep track of everything happening was already hard enough? Have fun with most of your screen covered in what ever shit the summon is doing

That's why you dodge them, it's just git gud.

It might take a little getting used to the changes if you're really hung up on the first games, but it's a shitton of fun when it clicks. I played the first two for far too long, but I didn't really have any issues with it and loved it early on.

Once you unlock Meteorain for Cloud, it becomes really easy. Just get your bravery into the purple and cast it from midair. It rarely ever misses.

>>14160400

>Only one hp attack and you can't customize your bravery attacks

you see Goy less options Equals more fun.

Could you be less of a fanboy.The game is so fking slow that there isnt even a point in trying to fight 1 v1 everytime you get hit to the ground you have to wait 4 seconds to get back up.

Its fked and you know it.

>>14160441

If I was a fanboy then by most people's standards I'd be expected to hate on this game for dumb reasons, but I played the originals a lot and am really enjoying this too. It actually does mean that in this case, since you overall have more options with dashing brave attacks, the two dashes being on at once, character specific mechanics and Ex Skills, and HP attacks all have their own quirks now and change on ground or in air sometimes. Picking HP attacks, Ex Skills and a summon is a lot more important customization than there ever was, and the game literally isn't any slower than the old ones were, outside of dashing which was too fast for it's own good and made everything else shit because of it. Chase is gone so if anything it's faster. You only get knocked down like that if you get hit by a HP attack, and it's so you don't get ganged up on since you wake up with iframes, but you're still able to put someone down for a short time even if you don't kill them. Any other time if you get knocked back you can recover earlier just by hitting jump.

>>14160591

>>there isnt even a point in trying to fight 1 v1

>That's kind of the idea.

Then make fking call of duty, whats the point of a fighting game then?

>>14160567

>character specific mechanics and Ex Skills

That already existed.ex zidane had infinite jumps on Ex

>more options with dashing

No you dont its the same you had omni dash

>Skills and a summon is a lot more important customization than there ever was.

Its you teamates that chose summon.

> game literally isn't any slower than the old ones were, outside of dashing which was too fast for it's own good

If you get knocked down it takes 4 seconds to get back up.

> You only get knocked down like that if you get hit by a HP attack, and it's so you don't get ganged up on since you wake up with iframes,

You know how they solved this problem in the original??????? Hp attacks sent you flying, here you have to fking wait.

Cant believe people defend this.

>>14160656

>Party brawler.

Since when was dissidia a party brawler?

1 hp attack means you must always pick the best one. Picking different ones for a mixup could instead result in gimping your ability to fight for the entire round.

2 ex skills from a generic pool means that only the best get selected or else you're underperforming. See flash in LoL, where even to this day it's routinely selected over other skills.

Characters with the most variable movesets are instantly top tier. All JP play consists of Vaan-Lightning and some other filler. It has been endemic since forever.

Not digging this from the beta, feels like half the matches are just chasing a faggot around the arena until someone else come just close enough to switch to and hit with a combo and inevitably send them flying a mile away and repeat, the format just feel like the A.I. never sticks with 1on1 for any length of time and they're either all on you (or all on one ally) it's just so schizophrenic behaving.

I think this is going to be one of those games to pick up a month or two down the line when the price have caved in.

>>14153372

nu-Cosmos looks fucking hot and just about naked in a still clothed looking way, holy shit.

>>14160659

>That already existed.ex zidane had infinite jumps on Ex

He had nine jumps. Now him and everyone else have things much more unique, either through their Ex Skill or just in general. Zidane for example can debuff enemies while buffing himself through stealing and he happens to be one of the more basic, other people have things that pretty much double their movelist.

>No you dont its the same you had omni dash

You also have Free Air Dash by dashing without holding a direction.

>Its you teamates that chose summon.

You all vote on it based on the ones you all have, and it gives a big buff both before and after summoning.

>If you get knocked down it takes 4 seconds to get back up.

Only on a HP attack, as I said, and it's more like 3 seconds, plus there's no chase. Dodges feel faster now too and are far less mashable which turned the pace of the old games way down, and guard doesn't freeze you for a second and merely lead to a punish whether you do it right or wrong.

>You know how they solved this problem in the original??????? Hp attacks sent you flying, here you have to fking wait.

Not any more than other attacks, plus I think you're forgetting how in the original you could just run away and build up assists, turn anything into a HP attack, then run away again. This game has far more combat going on everywhere, there's no waiting except for when you would need it.

>>14160664

HP attacks all fill completely different roles, it's not about which is the best but how you want to play. Ex Skills are the same and are also dependent on how you want to play and help your team. Japan fuckin loves Lightning for whatever reason, and Vaan is strong for a lot of reasons beyond his multiple HP attacks but still has his weaknesses, and neither are the only ones picked at all if you actually look at the usage rates.

>>14153372

who's the babe?

>>14161562

You can cancel the end of attacks by dashing to follow up from some things like wall rushes or keep up pressure. Aside from that you need to work with your team, and pick targets you can go for easier while ignoring them if they run too hard since it just means you won anyway. Which character are you using?

>>14162116

Oh whoops you did actually make another vague comment about the gameplay. It's not dumbed down though, directly compared to the previous game two mechanics were removed (one being little more than fancy forced rigid RPS that slowed the game down), many more were added and others were replaced by something equal or greater. Each character has unique mechanics that allow them much more depth and sets them further apart from the others, and this is placed on top of a team system which increases the depth cumulatively. That "50 planned" quote is always doing the rounds but no one remembers where it actually came from so I want to put it to rest. They're not just planning to throw in 50, this first came from a while before even the arcade version released, where they said they'd like to add a lot of characters that people are interested in, and they even had some ideas for how 50 or so might play. That's all that is and has ever been, but people have been passing it around everywhere like it's gospel.

>>14162254

The new one occupies the same amount of space, and the bars are in the same places.

Also I added on that last comment to gauge your reaction, and you're in heavy defence mode, don't be so quick to defend something that much. Otherwise you'll be mistaken for a shill, which you likely are.

>>14146646

>Likely a Gundam Versus fan

The same one who thought jewing the newest game would be a great idea?

>>14162327

>spend multiple paragraphs and three outdated images trying to trash a game you obviously haven't played or understand

>if someone happens to call you out on being blatantly wrong they're suddenly a heavy defence mode shill, but you're clearly not blindly attacking something because you said the magic word first so you get to win

>"a-all according to keikaku" cool guy ender that you want to pretend makes you special because it means you're actually aware that you know nothing about the game yet spent this time on it anyway

It'd be laughable if it wasn't so moronic. Anyway, the bars are in such places and shown clearly so that you can glance at each point and both quickly and easily know what you need to know. If you somehow have issues seeing the screen with it being that cut down then I question your eyesight.

>>14162337

That and they didn't quite get the idea behind Gundam Versus team work. Coordinating between two people on a team is doable, 3 is nearly impossible.

Also impressive how they both managed to "streamline" characters, but also complicate the controls to the point of frustration.

>>14162407

Kill yourself kike.

>>14162298

>Much more depth

More like stripped down to certain niches. Giving you less moves to play around with doesn't add more depth to the character. It just streamlines the way they're meant to play without much variation.

>>14162409

What makes the controls frustrating to you? What really bothers me is how dashing has a huge start-up. And like someone else said, I feel like I'm chasing people most of the fight but unlike Gundam Versus, it has a less diverse movement system. Many times I don't see much of a reason to run on the wall for example.

>>14166927

They have more moves though. 7 brave attacks minimum, plus your HP attack for ground and air which at times can be 2 different attacks rolled into 1 and can come with passive effects, a unique Ex Skill which is usually an attack and two other Ex Skills you pick that can be debuff spells as well. Many characters have multiple different attacks and can be played in different ways. Then there's the actual mechanics that add a lot more variety to most characters in how you approach playing them and far more moves and/or depth. I don't know how you could ever say people like Onion Knight or Cecil or Ramza aren't varied as they can be played very much how you want to and there's no one way to use them, especially when you consider you're working as part of a team.

In regards to the movement, you do have two dash types available, can fast fall with guard which cancels the landing recovery and can cancel attacks with dash or dodge, but wall running isn't as good or fun in this game and there's no rail grinding or gap hopping which sucks. Dashing is still really good though and needs that startup to be balanced, after all it made other movement in the old games entirely pointless, here you at least need to be aware of which to use and how your gauge is. Who are you playing as anyway? Don't chase people that far if you're getting nothing from it. Also this might be a team game but Gundam it is not, adapt to what you have access to in this game instead of trying to force what you think you know into this one, that never works well in any game.

>>14145507

They just completely robbed Exdeath of his gimmick