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a475f2 No.14116877
This should have been the end of it.
82f734 No.14116913
>>14116877
That fucking fight was nuts, especially for a mario game. Music was also pretty good. Shame the mario and luigi games became shit pretty fast after that
7922cd No.14116964
a475f2 No.14116992
>>14116964
1 and 3 are the best ones.
1 is still the best, though.
e29f26 No.14118352
>>14116992
What makes the first game for me is its unique graphical style. The later games progressively tried to look more and more like usual 2D Mario (same thing happened with the Paper Mario games)
bd6383 No.14118367
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I didn't like three that much, and I can't put my finger on why. It was fine it when I first played it, but playing all of them in a row, everything seemed so inferior to the original one.
And then they raped it with the fucking remake.
>>14118352
Color Splash had some alright writing at times, a pretty solid OST and the best art-style in that series. Not saying much since the core game was trash but it almost had potential.
e29f26 No.14118398
>>14118367
As I've said, I don't like the homogenized designs. Take a look at Dry Bones for example, early installments of both M&L and Paper Mario had them look unique, later they looked like any other Mario game.
bd6383 No.14118419
>>14118398
I'll agree with that, certainly. It was a big criticism of the SuperStar Saga remake as well.
b89051 No.14118472
>>14118419
the remake was to play nevertheless
gives you a reason to replay it
bd6383 No.14118483
>>14118472
>needing a reason to replay a game
Is "it's fun" and "I want to play it again" not valid enough?
314e81 No.14118494
>>14118419
I hate how expressionless the new models are. Kind of soulless and you can tell that they wanted to go their own way with designing some of the essential characters. They already did in many cases. Also pathetic how they removed Geno. I'd sooner play the original than the remake.
c122e1 No.14118516
>>14118419
The worst part to me is that they inserted that forced normalfag luigi meme from mario kart 8 everywhere
bd6383 No.14118538
>>14118516
Wait, they did WHAT?
I remember the thing from Mario Kart 8, and I remember Luigi Dabbing in Mario+Rabbids, but they put stuff in the SS remake as well?
c122e1 No.14118725
>>14118538
Yeah, he occasionally gets that cunt look on his face in level up screens or when mario's doing something, when the player might not be directly looking at him
bd5360 No.14118767
Good thing Bowser's Inside Story was the last M&L game that came out before I outgrew my Nintendo autism.
2653e5 No.14124313
I don't know. Dream Team was pretty fun, even if easy as balls.
The superstar saga remake isn't even that bad.
366c25 No.14124344
>>14124313
>The superstar saga remake isn't even that bad.
That's objective shit taste. Compare both final boss themes and tell me what's good about the remake
1c8c41 No.14124346
>>14118352
Gods, I fucking hate this shit.
a32180 No.14124580
>>14118419
oh god, it's looks like a Frankenstein between original design and the average design that you seen in main mario titles
b5dfe4 No.14124639
Partners In Time was serviceable, though outside of the final boss the whole game is piss easy and they gutted all exploration in favor of muh story. All the other games are shit.
>>14118419
Some sprites don't look that much changed other than becoming "3D" so to speak, but most enemies are just more in line with Corporate Mario. Which sucks because the entire point of M&L was that they were stranded on foreign soil with the exception of some Koopa Kingdom denizens and a Little Italy of Toad paizanos.
>Changed Boomerang Bro to Beanerang Bro to avoid a conflict with an enemy of the same name from other games
>Pun was supposed to be based on beans but it sounds like it's a latino turtle
My sides, treehouse manages to be funnier when they try to be less funny
b89051 No.14124796
>>14118483
>>14118483
It gives you another reason to replay
you can see the differences and compare them
Also bowser's minion was genuinely a good sub story with 5 hours of gameplay
2653e5 No.14124808
>>14124344 (Checked)
Don't get me wrong, the remake sucks dick compared to the original, which is probably my fav rpg ever, but i expected it to be much worse.
fc5e5c No.14124877
>>14118472
What the fuck are you saying?
52af83 No.14125182
>>14118367
>I didn't like three that much, and I can't put my finger on why.
I tried playing it once. The endless parade of MINIGAMES wore me down until eventually I couldn't take it anymore.
I did really enjoy the "blow on the microphone to breathe fire" bit, though.
55436c No.14125252
I liked how Dream Team looked at the time, but having two more games take its style and make it even more generic has turned me off of it.
5ab267 No.14125285
>>14124796
Bowser's Minions was a gigantic pile of shit on par with Mobile games. I expected so much better. Also repeating yourself doesn't counteract his argument, just play the original game again, fuck this Remake garbage.
27eef7 No.14125918
>>14118419
I don't even mind the new crappy art as much as the fact that everything is smeared with 50% opaque shading that makes Silent Hill scenery look crisp and brilliant.
c0541a No.14126374
>there is a chance Paper Mario 3 on switch will be shit
>if that even happens as opposed to Color Splash 2 or Paper Jam 2
>and even then it won't contain as much charm or replay-ability as the first 2
>tfw you just want a mario RPG akin to M&L1 and TTYD
I really hope someone at ninty who isn't brain dead is trying somewhat to save what's left of their IP's.
>>14118725
>not just making death stare luigi meme a sort of seemless ultimate attack
>instead they just shove that shit in there
Fucking missed potential right there. I want to see Luigi finally snap at all the shit all the characters give him and finally unleash his true power upon the lowly mortals.
>>14118419
>no geno in the remake
I know it's but a small detail but the he's not there anymore makes it feel that much more souless for others
55436c No.14126414
I'm with the guy that the remake wasn't that bad, but it's still not as good as the original and there was absolutely zero reason to do it at all. They should have opted for a 1/2/3 collection instead. Also everyone complains about the sprites, but I think the real sin they committed was ruining the music.
b5dfe4 No.14126500
>>14126374
You need to learn to give it up, anon.
438a7a No.14134000
Bowser's Insider Story really did a lot of justice to Bowser being the protagonist. It's always going to be hard to top that.
>>14118352
>>14118398
>>14118419
Modern Nintendo has been really annoying in this aspect. What was fun about the spin off RPGs was the different take on the established franchise, but now they are determined to streamline everything into the same thing.
f07c1b No.14134272
>>14116964
Playing as Bowser was hella fun.
2da117 No.14134320
>>14118419
i played the remake and enjoyed it. the original game was almost flawless and all I see for most of the game is a transition to 3D. I dont see anything wrong with the new models and I'm being 100% fucking objective. sometimes I think this place just like to be hipster and contrarian so they can signal some sort of "deep" appreciation for vidya.
52af83 No.14134325
>>14134320
You admit you don't belong here, so leave already.
21d2e2 No.14134370
>>14118472
>gives you a reason to replay it
A reason to play the original version? Sure
A reason to play the remake itself? It has nothing to warrant that. The only thing the original version needed was a hard mode and the remake didn't even add that
e1b8ad No.14134412
>>14116877
4th entry should have been this.
2da117 No.14134416
>>14134325
not an argument.
617ce6 No.14134420
>>14134416
Your argument is shit.
3dad8e No.14134447
>>14118419
I felt that the remake as a whole was fairly mediocre.
The updated environments looked nice, but using the Dream Team art style AGAIN was pretty shitty. Updated soundtrack was eh.
Removing the ability to switch Mario and Luigi in favor of position being ability-sensitive rubbed me the wrong way. Touch screen usage was pretty good, though.
Combat didn't need to be changed as much as it was. I appreciate the hammer first strike actually doing damage this time around, but the bros attacks felt way too slow. I also felt that I was dealing a lot more damage than I should, especially in the Chucklehuck Woods where I was killing the Chuck Guys on a first strike during the first visit.
55436c No.14134454
Mario Odyssey gives me hope for the future of Mario spinoffs. During the 3DS and Wii U, they had the whole "Mario must conform to this pseudo-90's mario style" and they really choked down on the amount of actually new enemies and such. Odyssey shows they're willing to do new and different things with Mario again, so we can only hope this applies to the spinoffs as well.
807f04 No.14134469
I actually liked Dream team and enjoyed the bit of luigi development it had.
5ab267 No.14134471
>>14134454
>only new gimmick is hat swap
>new things
plz better argument for why people purchased Odyssey rapefugee queer.
2da117 No.14134970
>>14134420
>still not an argument
95ed1a No.14135681
>>14134412
I'm still waiting for them to do this.
e1b8ad No.14141890
>>14134471
Hipster bullshit that's why.
1379f3 No.14142034
>>14134469
Only problems with DT are the tutorials and bloated areas. Thankfully they made the tutorials mostly optional in PJ and the SS remake.
04aafe No.14142187
>>14134412
>>14135681
Does anyone have the screencap.
9dffd4 No.14142257
>>14118419
What I find so funny about this is that they can only homogenize the designs so far. MLSS was a fucking WEIRD game, with weird sprites. Almost every enemy had a completely unique sprite even if it was just a few embellishments added to an established design. To be *at all* faithful to the original, BM needs to inherit some of that weirdness. It does this kicking and screaming, and the funky stuff looks absurd next to the generic blobs. Just look at the screenshot, some of these new ones look like they were traced from the same sketches the originals were traced from.
ad9216 No.14145002
>>14124313
Dream Team bored me to fucking tears. Never finished it.
2D sections were a mistake and the worst part of BiS.
000000 No.14145090
>>14145002
I feel the same way.
I'm not sure I can pinpoint exactly what went wrong, but I played the game for something like twenty hours and I suppose it felt like things were moving so slow.
It's also horribly obvious how the story's going to go and the combat feels sluggish. I want an RPG to last a while, but maybe this felt like it wasn't a natural length, because of all of the padding. The game wouldn't even let me play obvious puzzles without wasting a few minutes of my time showing me how to solve what I just walked up to so now I certainly know how to solve the one or other two variations of this puzzle I'll come across in the next twenty minutes.
I just stopped playing one day. I never even touched Paper Jam, but I don't think I'm missing out.
ff21fb No.14145348
>>14134320
>Posts an opinion
>Says he is being objective
Not an argument.
fb9595 No.14146876
>>14118516
you wouldnt cry if it were yet another monty python or dr who reference you fucking hipster
a32180 No.14147164
>>14134412
I saw better art On Tumblr
438a7a No.14147382
>>14147164
>trio
I vastly prefer Wario over Waluigi, but why would Waluigi take a backseat antagonistic role? But either way, those are good covers. Mario Bros teaming up with either Donkey Kong or Wario has always been one of the better ideas Nintendo has shyed away from. They didn't learn that there's a market to tap for that despite making BiS. I guess there's Super Mario 64 DS where you teamed up with Wario but there's more potential in an RPG setting.
e1b8ad No.14148098
>>14147164
>1st
Waifufag pandering, and those kind of people are the worst sore faggots because they will never feel an onahole
>2nd
Wario teaming up, but no Waluigi? They could just bring back that musical sphere from Wario Land 3 where Rudy the Clown gets his revenge.
>3rd
Good idea, get rid of the yellow testicle and bring back King K. Rool.
b5baa8 No.14148231
>>14118419
I remember playing M&L when I was 12 first and I loved the way the story progressed.
When I've got to Hoohoo University (or whatever it was called) I was practically sure it was the end of the game, it seemed like I've been through so much. And then they pull the Bowletta twist.
I never knew what was gonna happen in general, Cackletta/Fawful were such chaotic characters so that they could jump in and out of the story at any moment to change its direction completely, and it was part of what made the story and world of M&L1 fun to me (that, and the battle music).
Then it all devolved itnto grass world-desert world etc. What's the point in playing an RPG like that? The gameplay is always is, but now the story is just an NSMB-styled progression. I don't get why you would even play it, it seems like a task that needs to be checked out, not a video game.
b5baa8 No.14148234
>>14148231
*the gameplay is always easy
c90fc9 No.14152367
>>14147164
Fuck that give me a Wario and Waluigi game.
You can still have bowser be the enemy but have those greedy assholes accidentally ruining his plans just to get cash and make them Bowser's antagonists.
133712 No.14160075
>>14148098
>>14147550
>They don't like waifu pandering
Truly empty on the inside.
a526de No.14160162
>>14160075
>being in love with a drawing
Kys yourself tbh
b46f8c No.14160202
>>14147164
I think Princess Peach could work ONLY if she were to team up with Bowser so we have the whole original group. Aside from that, Wario and Waruigi being either the antagonistic duo or the playable other duo might be cool.
Imagine fighting bros technique versus bros technique, refined through all the journey.
a43377 No.14160209
Thinking about all the games in the series, i have absolutely no desire to replay PiT or BiS. Superstar Saga i replay once a year and i don't know why but i really want to replay Paper Jam. I just remember liking it a lot because it had actual difficulty, especially when you had to dodge shit with all three of them. Dream Team i liked the Luigi stuff like the giant battles and bro moves but everything else was meh. I would probably start it then want to immediately put it down.
fb9595 No.14166687
>there are (((anons from poleddit))) IN THIS THREAD who prefer 3d women
133712 No.14166727
>>14160181
>>14160162
>Not getting /fit/ to protect your 2D waifu from 3DPD
>Not knowing what true love feels like instead of 3DPD interest
Pitiful.
e1b8ad No.14167839
>>14160075
>y-you're shitting on my cartoons
>you're empty on the inside
I haven't seen this assburgers since /co/ willing to make their own Scooby Doo Spooky Camping.
82f734 No.14167876
>>14147164
As much as I like that third idea, if DK was a party member it'd be sort of hard to make it not seem like another Bowsers inside story. Granted, if it was lile two campaigns where one is about mario and luigi and the other was about DK and Diddy that could work. The animal friends could also be used as the special moves with the two unlocking them throughout the campaign. Hell that animal friends idea is very natural now come to think of it.
6322e8 No.14167884
>>14167839
Fourth pic is great. I miss Miiverse.
6b5375 No.14167913
>>14134412
I much prefer the idea circulating here where Wario and Waluigi pretend to be Mario and Luigi, but end up actually having to save the Mushroom Kingdom.
761e40 No.14167949
i just wanted a Shyguy & Snifit game, don't care if it is a platformer,rpg, tactics or whatever….
499c83 No.14168022
>>14167913
>Wario and Waluigi hatch a plan to ransom princess peach.
>Knock out Mario and Luigi and steal their clothes.
>The clothes barely fit.
>Obviously not Mario and Luigi.
>The toads and various characters unironically believe these two are Mario and Luigi.
>Shenanigans ensue.
This shit basically writes itself. I have not played a single Mario RPG except the SNES original and I would absolutely play the shit out of this hypothetical game.
f07c1b No.14168070
>>14134412
>New foe finds a way to mass spawn enemies
>Hoards of minions swamp into and take over the Mushroom Kingdom as well as all surrounding kingdoms
>Professor E. Gadd starts a hero for hire business and hires the Mario bros
>Wario and Waluigi start a competing business
>Mario bros have to fight the bad bros for jobs while trying to stop the new boss from spawning more foes
51001f No.14168992
133712 No.14169017
>>14167839
Great pics, but cringe don't defeat my point. No one really shat on them other than
>Muh waifu pandering
I don't even like the princesses that much, but I like the idea of fan service.
>>14168022
>The clothes barely fit
You fool no one.
01e99b No.14169178
This should have been the end of it.
01e99b No.14169185
01e99b No.14169191
>>14118472
>>14124877
worth replaying. i know I posted half asleep, but you could use some common sense.
3e27db No.14169220
>>14142187
>>14168022
>>14169017
I don't have the text, but it basically went
>Wario and Waluigi decide to make mad dosh
>Foe uses mcguffin that turns dosh into monsters
>Wa team dress up like Mario and Luigi in horribly obvious outfits to sneak into areas
>while trying to disgrace mario and Luigi, as they beat up monsters to make dosh
>folks who have never seen mario and luigi honestly believe Wa team is true heroes
>Mario and luigi are in a side story where they are leagues behind Wa team in progress
>they keep getting kicked out of towns and such for being "poor impostors"
>Wa team end up saving the day all because they want mad dosh
>special moves involve comical team abuse moves like Wario using Waluigi as a jackhammer or Waluigi rolling super fat wario as a bowling ball
>goes for overworld moves as well
>PR team keep calling it Mario and Luigi and play the idea of the disguises actually working and never refers to the Wa team
>does make mention of those "suspicious impostors" (the real mario bros)
133712 No.14169233
>>14169220
>Back of the box
>Mario and Luigi are at it again trying to make as much money as possible while trying to be ahead of their obvious impostors
>Secret boss is Mario and Luigi being pissed
aede32 No.14169239
>>14116877
>starting a thread with a Jewtube embed
55436c No.14169531
>>14169233
>Wario and Waluigi fighting with Mario and Luigi
>Bowser drops in out of fucking nowhere
>He can't figure out which ones are the real Mario and Luigi so he decides to just destroy all four
>Crazy three-way battle
83cdac No.14169554
>>14116877
This thread has already been posted three times. We get it, things should have been different.
cbe36c No.14169583
>>14134412
>>14168022
>>14168070
>>14169220
There was a thread briefly entertaining the idea of a Wario Bros RPG fan game.
All that materialized was some characters. I.e. the helper character turns out to be the final boss regaining his power (a piggy bank), the main antagonist is an archeology group trying to protect the rare items that act as mcguffins, A princess peach "Wa-copy" called Princess Lychee of the Washboard Kingdom (which is really just her castle and some slaves) who was using one of the mcguffins to get stronger and prettier until she uses it too much and turns into a monster.
I deleted the colored Princess Lychee art since I figured the concept didn't take off
55436c No.14169590
So I think we can all agree that no matter how you do it, it is impossible to fuck up a Wario & Waluigi RPG
cbe36c No.14169606
>>14169590
If it's boring or the gameplay is crap yeah.
Since Wario doesn't have a fixed identity outside of Wario Ware, there's more freedom to do whatever.
Then again, Master of Disguise tanked, so he's not perfect.
1ba5f5 No.14169734
>>14169606
By “tanked” it was an average game. It’s bad in relation to the past games for sure, but I still liked it a lot in spite of its objective flaws
133712 No.14169859
>>14169734
The only reason people hate Master of Disguise is because of having to draw to change forms, plus the forms were badly integrated in the game. I still liked it as well, it looks pretty nice, if bland in a lot of aspects, the characters are pretty cool, and the only thing I truly hate is that Wario ended without the damn treasure.
6129a7 No.14170034
>>14169859
Oh good, I’m not alone in hating that ending. Game was pretty decent outside of that though.
Wario Land and WL4 had the best endings.
e1b8ad No.14172719
>>14169220
Waluigi sports all different kinds of helmets depending on the Bros Attack
>Baseball helmet: Wario uses him as a baseball bat.
>Spiny shelmet: Wario throws him as a javelin
If it's Waluigi's turn, then he would use some of his sports instruments.
>Cricket bat: Wario turns into his morphing ball while Waluigi paddles him towards
>Long jump: Wario shapeshifts into his trampoline transformation helping Waluigi to make a meteor jump so he could land their foes into the ground and send them to the center of the universe.
645460 No.14184907
To this day I need to beat Partners in Time. Game is surprisingly hard.
6849e4 No.14185001
>>14134447
>Removing the ability to switch Mario and Luigi in favor of position being ability-sensitive
They Did Fucking
WHAT
6849e4 No.14185010
>>14169220
We could of had this and yet what did we get from Nintendo instead
A Cardboard Box
617ce6 No.14185021
>>14184907
They buffed the difficulty in the American release so you'd be forced to grind. Working Designs-tier.
807f04 No.14185166
Ive been wanting another game where you team up with bowser again like inside story but nintendo keeps doing paper mario or other stuff that just doesn't seem to work.
What I would give to get a game where mario, bowser and luigi all fight in the same line against an army that came to take over the mushroom kingdom, and having bowser bros attacks would be kinda neat to see. or maybe even a kirby crossover where you can use kirbys abilities to change his tactics on the fly.
040511 No.14185290
which Mario & luigi npc would you fuck?
6849e4 No.14185299
>>14185290
Obviously the Jellyfish Sisters
e9f1b7 No.14185418
>>14185010
And let's pretend we're developing that game.
6849e4 No.14185451
>>14185418
I wouldn't have the skills to even be able to pretend
314e81 No.14185465
>>14169220
They could probably get away without putting Wario and Waluigi in costumes. The villagers would just think "oh, one of em is short and fat and the other is tall, must be Mario and Luigi" and leave it at that.
I like the idea of the real Mario and Luigi being leagues behind Wario and Waluigi, but I think it'd be funnier if Wario and Waluigi just end up making situations worse, so the villagers hate "Mario and Luigi", so when the real ones show up they harass them.
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>>14185290
Would you let her invade you?
e679ac No.14191044
>>14188850
>Brendan actually bother to draw her anatomy
His artstyle hasn't progressed 10 years ago, they all look like deformed blobs.
752cd0 No.14191051
>>14188850
>Brendan
Well, go on. Post his other art of her.