63d9d9 No.14109382
This piece of shit is a great example of why socialism in video games is bad. The fucking gooks invented a game that is 'fair', and thusly terrible. A game in which hard work means nothing. Everyone is equal and thus unequal. They've managed to turn a game into a skillless casino in which skill doesn't matter, just how much you win by gambling. Every aspect of this pile of shit has some form of RNG. It never ends. Gathering is RNG, upgrading gear is RNG, buying items and hitting enemies is RNG. The game claims to have action combat but your attacks can randomly miss.
You can't get ahead in BDO via hard work. It's simply not the case. You can spend hours grinding and have absolutely nothing to show for it. It is a game that actively wastes your time. Imagine grinding for ten hours, and then having everything you grinded for vanish into the ether for no other reason than 'fuck you, it's fair.'
In BDO how good you are depends on your gear. Gear overtakes skill. A geared player will one-shot a player below them, and the player being shit on has no ability to fight back. But there is no way to garauntee gear via skill. It's all achieved by RNG. What this turns into is players who get lucky get to shit on the unlucky players. The worst part is the community. They will pretend they achieved their gear via skill when in reality they were RNG carried. They will tell players under them, "just work harder". If players are fucked by RNG, they're just told they didn't work hard enough. It must be their fault.
In most games you put in effort to progress. In BDO you put in effort for a chance to progress. A seat at the gamblers table. You'll win or lose based on luck and not your merit. One can attempt to bypass the RNG of upgrading gear by purcashing it from the marketplace. In a stunning display of socialist design they've managed to make the auction house 'fair' by making buying goods RNG. They's right. Buying items from the fucking auction house is RNG. When an item goes up, everyone hits a button called 'bid'. One player is assigned the item. If 500 people press bid, you have a 1/500 chance of obtaining the item. We are told that this is done for fairness. Nevermind the fact that Runescape solved this issue by letting you put up buy orders.
There are no free markets in BDO. Prices are controlled. There is no free trade. The game does not let you trade with your fellow player. Runescape also solved this issue by requiring you to buy items off players, you couldn't just hand them things. Instead you have to go to the marketplace and put up the item that your friend wants. Your friend will then be forced to compete with everyone else who wants the item. This is 'fair'.
To summarize BDO is a game that rejects the idea of meritocracy and replaces it with a system of fairness where what you get is based on luck rather than skill. Your progression in BDO will ultimately come down to how lucky you are and if you aren't you can look forward to a life of being a 3rd class citizen. Did I mention the game has open world PvP? There are 40 channels, with at most 20 grind spots. Each grind spot has at most 3 areas that one person only can occupy. There are at least 15K players according to Steam. You will be competing against them all.
63d9d9 No.14109384
>>14109382
I am angry. Angry about VIDEO GAMES. I'm going back to singleplayer games. MMO's: Never again.
475405 No.14109389
>wtf gook MMORPG #8201 is bad
who would have thought?
63d9d9 No.14109393
>>14109389
You'd think the game would be better if those 15K player numbers are anything to go by. The game was a top seller on Steam. Surely it would have some merit.
But no. It has none. It's absolute shit and it's getting rabidly eaten up by normalniggers who love to eat shit.
0162d4 No.14109395
475405 No.14109399
>Nevermind the fact that Runescape solved this issue by letting you put up buy orders.
I AM ANGRY ABOUT G.E. SHITTERS, DON'T SULLY MY MEMORY OF THIS GAME WITH THAT PIECE OF SHIT FEATURE THAT APPEASED YOU CASUALORD NIGGERS AND DESTROYED THE GAME
4881a3 No.14109405
>/v/ gets genuinely excited for this game
>Looks good from original Beta tests
>Anons get hyped
>Try to warn them the Gook menace don't like promising and interesting games, they would rather have themepark grinder #4132131
>Sure enough later beta tests remove most of the sandbox features and neuter the open world
>continues to get neutered till launch till only a shadow of the original game remains
>several anons an-hero themselves
771ce5 No.14109411
Socialism isn't about "fairsies".
a2244b No.14109451
>This bad game is bad
>Not because it's a shitty game, but because of socialism
Fuck off back to your shitty politics board
274cde No.14109469
but gook grinding sims are the best grinding sims.
rng and time really is needed for bdo and knowing how to play your class.
c435f1 No.14109492
>>14109405
>>/v/ gets genuinely excited for this game
>>Looks good from original Beta tests
http://black-desert.com/2015/04/04/black-desert-how-we-were-expect-it-to-be-and-how-it-is-now/
The only thing the devs need to do is reign in the rampant rng and their mandated pricing on the auction house.
0a2c96 No.14109531
>>14109451
Just read the fucking thread before spamming your autism /leftypol/
29e89a No.14109551
The koreans fucking suck at MMOs. The chinese have them beat.
c435f1 No.14109602
>>14109551
>The chinese have them beat
p tru tbhfams
e921ae No.14109615
>>14109602
Only thirty dollars for the emote, seventy dollars for the dress, one hundred and fifty dollars for the rabbit, and four hundred dollars for the panda in a basket.
274cde No.14109622
>>14109617
>>14109602
is this like a new wuxia world mmo?
idk been reading a shit ton of wuxia lately since nippon novels take fifty years to be finish released then translated
f42a0f No.14109934
>>14109393
what were you expecting from a buy-to-play mmorpg that costs only 10 bucks and is on sale for less
df5faf No.14109944
>>14109405
>>/v/ gets genuinely excited for this game
I don't know why people keep getting fooled by gook MMOs. Sure they look pretty, but that's all they have going for them.
cdee06 No.14109963
>>14109944
I still have nice memories of Forsaken World, before they nerfed Dwarves and the game died.
491b32 No.14110013
>>14109382
yeah but it has one of the best character creator. I spilled gallons of jizz just making waifus. I wish someone would rip it off with all unlocked costumes.
bc71a9 No.14110083
It's an example of how price fixing doesn't work. There are shortages of everything that matter because people are always willing to pay more than the maximum price. The horrible marketplace design doesn't help either; it prevents you from buying items at a higher than minimum posted price and this which forces you to refresh EVERY TIME an item goes up on the marketplace. Other players can snipe items before you buy it forcing forcing you to refresh and click through pricing pages again. It's a fucking nightmare
f8c548 No.14110113
I'm sorry, is your rambling autism saying that gambling is socialism?
bc71a9 No.14110117
>>14110113
There's central planning and the game anti-free market. Apparently they added in literal welfare and the high taxes are used to pay for the servant class so there's wealth redistribution there.
f8c548 No.14110120
>>14110117
>Apparently they added in literal welfare and the high taxes are used to pay for the servant class so there's wealth redistribution there.
That's fucking ludicrous, am I supposed to take that at face value? What does that mean for someone who's never played this shitty MMO?
b2f2f8 No.14110128
>>14110120
It's just fluff in the tutorial to explain why the only thing you need to worry about when hiring worker NPC's is the initial recruitment cost and feeding: they get paid from the taxes everyone pays anyway.
bc71a9 No.14110133
>>14110120
You get free money for being in a guild and a certain amount every day depending on your fame rank. The devs can add these things in because of the lack of player to player trading hides the inflation it would cause.
f8c548 No.14110141
>>14110133
Thank g-d I never worry about stupid MMO economic bullshit like this. I'd probably go autistic.
bc71a9 No.14110146
>>14110141
It's hard to ignore it when it affects you every time you want to buy something and no one wants to sell anything worthwhile because of inflation and price fixing.
f8c548 No.14110168
>>14110146
It's easy to ignore it when you don't play the game.
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843f93 No.14111184
39bbe3 No.14111211
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>>14109382
>This piece of shit is a great example of why socialism in video games is bad
Anyone with a single brain cell stops reading there.
What are words anymore.
f8f131 No.14111445
One of the things that the game sold me the most was having fucking giants as player characters, and they aren't even the best class.
Besides, I was promised a medieval jew simulator and got this.
366efb No.14111460
d6d953 No.14111505
>>14111460
Why are you replying to yourself?
39bbe3 No.14111528
>>14111505
different ID idiot.
c7accf No.14111587
>>14109461
>he doesn’t know the origin of that .gif
Once again, Reddit proving that they can’t adapt to imageboard culture.
29e89a No.14112191
>>14109602
The chinese had most people beat when it comes to MMOs. Back when subscription-based MMOs were still relevant, the chinese fulfilled the needed market for microtransactions. It's a sad thing indeed that we don't have chinese gold farmers and sellers anymore.
1c1526 No.14112258
>>14109382
Gooks have an history of making RNG based gameplay for their MMOs, do you remember ragnarok? Upgrading items past a point has a chance of destroying it, pretty much every good item had a really small chance to drop, specially the cards with a .1%. The big difference is that they actually rewarded players that play more or bot more by having a free market.
and the most important they had items that high level players needed for crafting or use dropping on low level areas, that really brought the community together by forcing good players to interact with newbies, that really helped with the community. Does BDO has something like that? What about those "player made villages"? Wasn`t that a big deal?
a0267f No.14112287
704888 No.14112817
>>14112258
As a byproduct of the mechanics of the upgrade system, there is a large supply of upgraded items that get posted to the market by players who are trying to build failstacks by upgrading common items that have plenty of duplicates on the market. This makes pretty much anyone able to buy their way up to the +15 to DUO (+17/20) range for non-boss armors and weapons very cheaply, and with all of the items that are thrown at new players, they should be able to afford them by the time they hit level 56 and need them for effecient grinding.
Game still pushes players away from interacting with newbies. There are a few low level areas that are good for gathering, but you rarely see someone leveling a character for the first time, since leveling is so quick, and most players hit 56 within a week.
And what the fuck are these "player made villages"? Never heard of them, never knew BDO would have stuff like that. Are you thinking of archage?
c775e3 No.14112822
>>14109451
Global report. Kill yourself.
c435f1 No.14113033
>>14112817
When you say cheaply you leave out the part that those by products cost some 30mil a piece wherein a new player will be making up to 5mil/hr at an appropriate spot. Unless the new player knows right off the bat to just go to Sausages and make 15m/hr and hope to not get bullied out.
5e7a6b No.14113396
Are any mmos good these days?
3c9612 No.14113795
>>14113396
MMOs were never good.
475405 No.14113834
>>14113795
They may not have been good, but they were once humble and simple games free of jewery where people would socialize and be part of something.
8e8c7e No.14113926
>>14113834
Play VRchat. It's free and you don't need a set.
3c9612 No.14113932
>>14113834
The days of a game being held upright by its community, and that community being respected, are long, gone my friend.
I am sorry.
13a8e7 No.14113944
>>14113926
>you don't need a set.
Holy shit, why was I not made aware of this?
23e309 No.14113971
>>14113834
FFXIV isn't too bad. Standard monthly subscription is all you need. There's no hidden microtransaction bullshit that is actually needed. It's mainly just cosmetic stuff. It's one of the last good old school MMORPGs around.
fc6a8d No.14114092
>>14113932
just about every popular game is held up by a respected community. The problem is the respect is usually unwarranted and held together by some e-celeb.
f46d3b No.14114234
>>14109382
>This piece of shit is a great example of why socialism in video games is bad. The fucking gooks invented a game that is 'fair', and thusly terrible. A game in which hard work means nothing. Everyone is equal and thus unequal. They've managed to turn a game into a skillless casino in which skill doesn't matter, just how much you win by gambling. Every aspect of this pile of shit has some form of RNG. It never ends. Gathering is RNG, upgrading gear is RNG, buying items and hitting enemies is RNG. The game claims to have action combat but your attacks can randomly miss.
That's still capitalist rather than socialist. If it were socialist then everybody would always have the exact same RNG results every time they roll. Everyone's first roll would be a 10, second roll a 75 and so on. Everybody would have the exact same amount of success and nobody would have any differences.
I know it's hard to imagine, but it would be something that is even more boring and pointless than BDO's current state even is.
23e309 No.14114433
>>14114193
You know I'm right, even if you don't like the game much yourself. Your insults are hilariously wrong too.
d42432 No.14115993
>>14113396
EVE Online if you are an SA member. Night of the Long Knives when?
fa6990 No.14128169
>>14109602
>>14109617
>Headpats
Anons will play it
But as this anon says:
>>14109615
Will kill it.
565369 No.14128212
If anyone here is interested in playing BDO we have a 8ch guild that has been running since launch.
http://discord.gg/9JyV6Nx
95c175 No.14128258
>A game in which hard work means nothing. Everyone is equal and thus unequal.
you couldn't be more wrong. rng exists in many aspects, but if you had any fucking clue about how probability works, you'd realize that over time it will always even out. over the course of a year your rng will even out with everyone else and you'll have progressed the amount that you worked.
95c175 No.14128377
>>14128300
that's not gambler's fallacy you fucking nigger.
as the number of events approaches infinity, the closer the overall result matches the chance.
95c175 No.14128471
>>14128457
read a textbook on elementary probability please then get back to me
f1712e No.14129779
I'm almost done downloading, any tips? I'm playing a 7 days trial
94fef7 No.14129822
8f8fe6 No.14130960
>>14129779
Buy a (((Merchant))) wagon, open some trade routes and make fat stacks playing Eurotruck sim fantasy edition. Remember you only get EXP for trades made in places 500m or more from their origin
cfaa5d No.14138690
>>14109399
This. And they had to fuck it up AGAIN in OSRS.
c9d1b9 No.14155259
How the fuck do you reliably level up past level 50? The exp starts multiplying rapidly.
bc550d No.14155374
>>14109451
he literally explains why it sucks and its because of reasons that also coincide with socialist principles
67ae56 No.14169194
>>14155374
>trying to reason with a /leftypol/ kike
159022 No.14169387
>>14109393
>there is over a billion chinks
15k is nothing, considering their laws changed letting them out of the cage.