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905f94 No.14029814

Why aren't you learning java and making your dream games?

What's stoping you?

a460d3 No.14029835

Even freebasic is a better option for making games than java.


16b251 No.14029907

>>14029814

<learning a specific language

you're so full of shit and die


cfc6e8 No.14029920

Modded Pilotwings is already my dream game, so what's the point?


e667d8 No.14029930

>java

A game needs an artist, programmer, and muscian. Unless you have no job or school, you can't devote all your time in to some gay shitheap that's going to be pirated by some faggot instead.


78bc91 No.14029940

I know Java but why would I waste my time creating video games when I have no artistic talent?


18db99 No.14029944

>>14029930

A person pirating my game will at least say that someone out there played my game, which is good enough for me.


82d8ab No.14029958

Java is the official language of street-shitting H1-B Pajeets who work for $10 an hour without benefits and unpaid overtime, and have pushed thousands of white men out of the labor market. Fuck Java.


c4e069 No.14029970

>>14029814

Because Java is a shit language.


168549 No.14029972

>>14029944

Warm fuzzy feelings don't actually keep you warm when you're dying of hypothermia in a greasy alley, faggot. Have fun trying to eat your ideals.


c4e069 No.14029976

>>14029814

Did you make this thread just to trigger programmers?


5b2890 No.14029980

File: c98d740c2ed6bb5⋯.png (429.48 KB, 569x800, 569:800, 00f09a6b0a0b65f93c0fa672fb….png)

>>14029814

>Java

Drop out before you regret it, kiddo.


cfc6e8 No.14029985

>>14029972

EU-kun, please lurk more and develop a better understanding of how pirating actually works before pretending to be economically concerned about anyone.


168549 No.14030032

File: 589690f27720aa8⋯.png (163.76 KB, 500x351, 500:351, 589690f27720aa8a03f2486863….png)

>>14029985

>quit job/school and devote several years of your life to making your dream game

>nobody buys it because it's shit and only slightly appeals to imageboard autists, the vast majority of whom pirate everything

>barely make enough money from the entire ordeal to buy someone else's game

You're delusional if you don't think this would happen to 90% of anons if everyone here bothered to follow their dreams


6814fc No.14030033

I already know Java and have no desire to make games with it.


09a098 No.14030065

File: b07aee14448ec80⋯.jpg (4.49 KB, 252x200, 63:50, b07aee14448ec80976fbef35d6….jpg)

>>14029814

I took a programming class at local community college for exactly this reason. The professor was REALLY fucking stupid. He repeated the first class lesson for the first four classes. He had a lot of trouble finishing sentences, or explaining anything about programming outside generic analogies that were not illuminating. He was also super fat and had some kind of medical equipment hanging off him like a black baron Harkonnen so I think he may actually have had some sort of cognitive impairment too. I dropped it eventually but didn't get a refund because it was too late in the semester. 0/10 would not recomend


eb43ad No.14030071

File: b8bd0f941a99349⋯.jpg (77.56 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 80941993495592371577358610….jpg)

>Java

You belong in a fucking garbage can, get the fuck out.


739d04 No.14030158

>Java

Because I'm not a fucking streetshitter


f9e8bb No.14030173

File: 9c8a910ffbc9c89⋯.jpg (110.34 KB, 780x1010, 78:101, 006.jpg)

I want to mak games but I dont know how to into java. can you teach me? what do I do first? can I download a java somewhere?


739d04 No.14030175

>>14030071

How's the last season/movie? I haven't watched them yet


c654bf No.14030193

>>14029814

>java

>any year since 2008

>when it was already on its way out then


5b2890 No.14030201

>>14030173

I'd overflow your buffer if you know what I mean


6bfc71 No.14030269

>>14030032

It doesn’t matter, as long as your visions are realized. Art has a funny way of outlasting the artist.


6c41d7 No.14030286

File: 65b2854a4fdaf2d⋯.png (140.23 KB, 442x743, 442:743, 39817293712.png)

Game maker and some really Basic C+ is all I need.

That being said, I can't draw the artstyle I want, and my niche is comfortably filled.


e1b3e0 No.14030289

>>14029814

Maybe I will, but I'd like to use C++ to build a game first. I will spend next year doing that, and we'll see what 2019 has in store for me.


5b2890 No.14030292

File: af43f911fe26f13⋯.jpg (28.13 KB, 451x325, 451:325, dw.jpg)


6c41d7 No.14030302

>>14030292

Buddy I don't give enough of a shit to learn what it's actually called, I just need it to work and make my damn roguelike burgertime game.


5b2890 No.14030310

>>14030302

It won't work for idiots.


6c41d7 No.14030323

File: 3054fc2e81dfd4a⋯.gif (1.16 KB, 127x133, 127:133, 1442540184030.gif)

>>14030310

Well I'm sorry that you won't be able to play my game then.


531cda No.14030328

File: 0a932106131c147⋯.jpg (42.49 KB, 404x404, 1:1, 0a9.jpg)


5b2890 No.14030339

File: 4fe1d362707e3ab⋯.jpg (130.49 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, undertale.jpg)


c69e09 No.14030392

I'm too busy learning 日本語


6c41d7 No.14030399

File: abbd7fbf3e73417⋯.png (2.8 KB, 379x123, 379:123, ae882ffa0616527987d1fb8efa….png)


b3dd8a No.14030403

>java

>dream

dohoho


9b7d99 No.14030408

File: 55c750d3ec76cc1⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 2.52 KB, 100x100, 1:1, gaybriel flower 3.png)


afd80c No.14030425

>>14030302

If you don't give enough of a shit to learn the name of the language you're using to make your so-called dream game, then logically speaking you will more than likely not give a shit about ensuring your dream rogueshit game to work.


6c41d7 No.14030437

>>14030425

Do you honestly believe I would make a roguelike Burgertime?

How would that even work you retard.


afd80c No.14030475

>>14030437

>Do you honestly believe I would make a roguelike Burgertime?

You were the one who said it, not me. Just because you got your feelings hurt doesn't mean you should take it out on the rest of us. Just admit you're a faggot, mkay sweetie?


6c41d7 No.14030489

>>14030475

You know you're very good at picking up facetious speech.


f4d4a2 No.14030490

File: 0a88019df62e216⋯.jpg (60.39 KB, 347x419, 347:419, 0a88019df62e216a77e3d16c04….jpg)

All my dream games exist, so why making something that is already made?


afd80c No.14030508

>>14030489

Thank you, my friend. I truly hope you find happiness within your life, and I certainly hope you don't get raped by a pack of feral niggers.


bab9ab No.14030523

File: 393598bc046437c⋯.jpg (250.76 KB, 700x716, 175:179, poo in the loo.jpg)

HAH


634922 No.14030538

It's easier being a idea fag.


f9a647 No.14030545

>>14029930

My brother from another mother. I've been working since I was fifteen, and lost all of my programming skill, never had any music writing skill, and I abandoned drawing and most digital art in 2003. Free time is the water that grows the fruit of skill. Constant work is the overbearing sun that burns everything to death.

>>14029958

Second. My electronic engineering degree has a thick coating of dust on it now.

On the plus side, despair helps you lose weight, since you just skip eating, keep working, and when the hunger starts to hurt, you just drink water and sleep it off.


a33cdf No.14030558

>>14029940

>why would I waste my time creating video games when I have no artistic talent?

This.


eb43ad No.14030581

>>14030175

Mediocre, the movie wasn't epic at all.


9c0675 No.14030646

File: 6aa8ac0d236cf40⋯.jpg (32.87 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 6aa8ac.jpg)

>cant into making textures or music

>afraid of bricking my rig while installing linux, and windows programming/compiling is shit


6c41d7 No.14030670

>>14030646

Hey don't be so bad buddy, take some baby steps and install a VM if you're so scared to try linux


5b2890 No.14030675

>>14030646

>not downloading msys to have a fully featured bash environment with gcc in windows

>not using the classic window theme

>not understanding the comfy as hell feeling of sifting through 30 year old windows api code to get something to work

Man up.


2ae782 No.14030678

File: 676d0a08497995a⋯.png (24.46 KB, 260x265, 52:53, 1f4d0352afaec19aad92a4e9f2….png)

>>14029814

>java

pretty good bait


0cd80a No.14030710

>>14030646

Use a livecd or virtual machine if you're not comfortable with installing GNU/Linux on your computer. Honestly though, I'd suggest learning how to install/partition/setup operating systems at some point; it's a surprising useful skill.


0cd80a No.14030716

>>14030710

*surprisngly

>when you forget how to adverb


3c9c44 No.14030777

>>14030675

This guy gets it except for

>gcc

If you want to go all in, download Pelle's C: http://www.smorgasbordet.com/pellesc/


9c0675 No.14030854

File: e5bc77edaae080c⋯.jpg (68.11 KB, 900x900, 1:1, 9119.jpg)

>>14030710

>>14030670

I've already been using debian for some years, but the problem comes once i have to get rid of windows or install a different distro and not fuck up grub or something else on the hard drive.

Though i might save some money to buy an empty thinkpad and do lignux stuff on that.


6c41d7 No.14030880

>>14030854

OR you could just buy another harddrive and play with your bios.


451af3 No.14030891

college full time. Maybe after its done and I have a nice job

if I get one

I wanna make a giant robot game, I got programing fundamentals coming up so I can at least see what I would be getting into.


d1afb7 No.14030897

File: f4271cba181ec03⋯.png (13.95 KB, 546x200, 273:100, 1344921264466.png)

FUCK

JAVA

I have spent the last hour trying to add a death counter to permanently decrement player health in minecraft, and I have accomplished NOTHING in that hour. As far as I can tell, everything is set up as it should be for the NBT tag to be written/read and copied between instances of the player entity, I've still got fuck all to show for it. It's supposed to increment the death count by 2 on each death since 1 heart = 2hp, but the death count integer is stuck at fucking zero.


837b16 No.14030906

>>14030897

Post your code anon


e24d59 No.14030923

>>14029835

Freebasic is nifty as heck, what are you implying here?


adbe3f No.14030927

>I learned how to make a game in Java

>But my real plan is to be hired by a bank and maintain their Java applications


5b2890 No.14030933

>>14030927

How much of a cuck do you have to be to actually WANT to maintain some street shitter's horrid code?


451af3 No.14030943

File: d3a86c2b820ee1b⋯.jpg (79.68 KB, 900x878, 450:439, 751b232cd3872c1fe507f59ddc….jpg)

>>14030933

Because he can make some good dosh doing it and fill his manchild cave with anime figs.

Duh.


0cd80a No.14030947

>>14030854

>not fuck up grub or something else on the hard drive

Yeah, I can't say I haven't done the same. I managed to somehow wreck my first linux install (debian) by resizing some logical volumes. Still not sure how I did that. Wasn't much of a problem because I back up my /home regularly, but it was a learning experience at least. Used clonezilla and hopped to gentoo after that. Point is, those kinds of problems are unavoidable when it comes to managing operating systems, and knowing how to be proactive/deal with them is pretty nice.

That being said using separate machines for individual installs is definitely the way to go. If you're okay with sub-par hardware you can pick up a thonkpad on an ebay auction for like $30, $100-$200 if you want one that you don't need to put any extra parts/work into.

>>14030927

>Maintaining enterprise-grade software in java

I hear that line of work is pretty soul-sucking, you'd probably be able to find more work as a COBOL programmer anyway; although that'd probably require some experience.


791334 No.14030979

File: b85098a4365c678⋯.jpg (24.62 KB, 441x418, 441:418, JUST.jpg)

I don't want to make a game, first off. Second, I don't have the patience, knowledge or vision to make a game. Even if I did the gameplay would be very mediocre. I might be OK with the writing but I'm not really able to make up shit entirely on my own, I have to build on other people's concepts and ideas. I can't make graphics so I really don't have anything at all, the only way I could see myself working on a game is if I was assisting somebody else with their game.


b939cd No.14031008

Because I've been doing professional Java programming for 10 years and I pretty much hate it. My hands hurt from typing so much boilerplate.


d1afb7 No.14031066

>>14030906

Easier said than done.

There is a EntityPlayer class, which initializes the player entity as an extension of the Entity class.

EntityPlayer has a void function onDeath(DamageSource par1DamageSource)

that is called every time the entity's health reaches zero, there's already a call that updates the stat for accumulated deaths (for the statistics page), so I figured that adding a public deathCount int at the start of the class and then incrementing deathCount += 2 every time onDeath is called would be simple enough.

But then deathCount is always 2.

So trying to make it an NBT tag, I added deathCount to readEntityFromNBT and writeEntityToNBT, but that proved just as fruitless, making deathCount always 0, which makes sense I guess considering the NBT data is probably overwritten whenever the player respawns.

I'd probably be better off trying to read the deathstat from the statistics page and reducing the maxhealth from that.


711652 No.14031095

>>14029972

t. Archer


d2146b No.14031110

>>14030897

You know you can do all of that ingame with like half a dozen command blocks and some scoreboards, right?

Man up and start coding in a 3D esolang already


0cd80a No.14031113

File: 58b1d3ab829b1e8⋯.jpeg (103.75 KB, 610x763, 610:763, griffith.jpeg)

>>14029972

>he doesn't forsake everything for his ideals


d1afb7 No.14031118

>>14031110

I'm trying to make everything into configs for the vanilla game.

It's a lot fucking harder when you don't actually understand java.


7ee48e No.14038186

File: 18be5f274c5ac29⋯.png (246.44 KB, 800x831, 800:831, gamedev.png)

>>14030927

Software development for big institutions is an endless deluge of fuck. Job security through unmaintainability is real.

Manufactured problems to excuse inflated prices and ridiculous deadlines. Coding standards that encourage coupling, unreadability and other issues in a way that, at the surface level, could conceivably be considered an interpretation of some more accepted best practices. Inconsistent and incoherent naming and APIs to make sure no other codeshop getting a glance at the codebase would even want to touch the project.

And you know damned well if someone has pointed out a flaw that is endemic to the code, giving some examples, only those examples would get some kind of tweak. Sometimes copy-pasted in a way that causes more problems.

Fuck.


797a3e No.14038199

>making games

Anon if you're looking for a hobby into music instead. Being able to just like, play instrument beats spending years making a shitty game. It can also be a great social activity/lubricant which you lot probably need.


8a87a4 No.14038262

>>14029814

>Java

Learn Assembly, followed by C++, or KYS.

Java is a shit language and even worse for games. Any game you manage to shit out in that language will forever be a blight upon humanity.


241970 No.14038268

File: 53e683ca6abdb27⋯.png (358.81 KB, 600x604, 150:151, 6c7f529879f40527b9ac493eba….png)


ae966d No.14038291

>>14030646

Rufus+Linux mint on a USB drive homie.


70776e No.14038303

>>14029814

>What's stoping you?

ADD

Ideology

Depression

Stupidity


0eb5e3 No.14038359

File: 98592a806279bbd⋯.webm (854.33 KB, 320x236, 80:59, modern software dev.webm)

>>14030927

>banks

>using java

They use COBOL


ebf2c7 No.14038362

>>14038359

>webm of a gif of a video

What the fuck are you doing?


63316e No.14038408

>>14029814

Because Java is probably the worst language I have ever had the displeasure of being forced to use.


63316e No.14038435

>>14030302

I don't know how to even begin trying to explain to you how fucking stupid you are.


6e55d1 No.14038437

File: dfa1b8d2c15ae9a⋯.png (483 KB, 1132x748, 283:187, dfa1b8d2c15ae9af040916defc….png)

>>14029814

Too busy working and masturbating.


06e799 No.14038439

Java is utter garbage and I despise the fact that there are places that teach that shit in the guise of "education" and "utility" when it offers none. You'll be far better off picking up several books on Assembly and C++ and start off from there.


791334 No.14038440

>>14038362

Probably a cuckchan refugee.


0fad12 No.14039215

>>14030286

>gamemaker

no

>C++

no

All (you) need is suicide.


2f7a41 No.14039319

File: 7cf26873e884ae0⋯.jpg (37.27 KB, 460x462, 230:231, 1501460570137.jpg)

>>14030173

Hello rajesh here how may I help yoh


0a44ec No.14039334

>>14029814

I tried learning java once. It's the most obtuse, fiddly pile of bullshit I've ever encountered.


2f7a41 No.14039336

>>14039334

Its quite straight forward and its said java has the most documentation out of all other languages but outside of android its really weird to use Java since for all kind of desktop applications there are better alternatives but if you want something simplistic java is okay that's probably why its quite popular in enterprise


d2146b No.14039899

>>14038362

probably modern software development


cfc6e8 No.14039904

>>14039319

>boob instead of bob

>watermarked by some literally who

what is this trash


cac0cb No.14039913

>>14029814

How far are you progressing, OP?


899d68 No.14040192

File: b64b1bd70374bcf⋯.gif (54.53 KB, 355x355, 1:1, b64b1bd70374bcf0e0a12ec3e4….gif)

>I cannot art

>I cannot music

>I cannot write

>I am, at the base of everything just an Ideas guy with a basic understanding of programming.

>Try to buddy up with a bro to make a ROM hack and ended up falling out over difference in ideas

>I've got some docs written for a 'Puzzle' game I plan on making using RPG maker because free sprites and shit but worried that it'd be too shit


53b515 No.14040214

>>14040192

>free sprites

If you use the standard sprites pretty much no one will play your game.


32320b No.14040285

>>14029814

>Java

Hey Notch.


5b2890 No.14040295

>>14040285

Yeah, that's pretty telling of the quality of your language when people can only think of literally 1 even remotely successful game made with it.


32320b No.14040321

>>14040295

Even more insulting now that the Windows version has been rewritten in C++.


899d68 No.14040333

>>14040214

True, to be fair I don't expect anybody to play the game. I'm just making it to see if I can.


784479 No.14040435

File: 4858931c1aec86b⋯.jpg (19.61 KB, 600x400, 3:2, chad.jpg)

>>14031113

>muh disneyland castle

fuck off gay nigger


53b515 No.14040436

>>14040321

Windows10 version you mean, which is identical to the android version and has a bunch of missing features and weird redstone behavior.

>>14040333 (checked)

You shouldn't expect people to play your game, but you also shouldn't half-ass it because of that. Unless you mean you want to prototype it and make it not shit if it turns out fun.


7c77d6 No.14041025

>le java le bad XDDD

>nobody states why

people whit software expertise and/or hardware expertise doesnt lurk here, just ask anything technical arround and you will see.


dedc6c No.14041065

>>14039904

normalfag attempts at memes


5b2890 No.14041235

>>14041025

I'll literally suck your dick if you find someone with technical expertise who DOES defend Java and isn't Indian.


451d86 No.14041336

>>14041025

Ugly looking code and it runs on a fucking VM, you're better off using C# if you want a powerful OOP language.

Regardless, "learning programming language" isn't how you develop video games, you find a game engine and learn that.




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