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Also, forgot to mention, the surviving werebeaver is still sealed away in that room there. What should I do with her?

>haven't played DF in years

>start up

>getting my farms setup

>trying to figure out the game as I go

>get 20 migrants

>no idea what they are supposed to do so they end up idle except a gem cutter

>spend first year working on smelting, and failing to get anything made, farming and cutting all the gems I found

>start to remember some stuff like offices and engraving the walls

>caravan arrives, nobody bothers to meet them so they leave

>guys start randomly visiting and asking to stay to kill monsters

>no idea what they are doing but considering I'm running a fish and booze farm here I'm not going to turn down weapon masters

>suddenly vomit and blood all over the place

>wtf

>forgotten beast has arrived

>realise I tunneled into the side of a cavern

>random adventurers keep turning up, they kill the forgotten beast for me

>still can't produce weapons myself, 30 idle dwarfs

>just realised farmers don't use farm plots

Not sure what's going on here. But I feel like some retarded npc with a basement full of monsters while all these adventurers come kill them for me.

there's a dwarf fortress general on /vg/, what's the point of making one here?

>>13924764

>What is going on in your fortress right now?

Probably lots of dwarves puking everywhere.

>>13926429

When it turns back to normal, it's technically a citizen of the fort again.

>>13926804

whats the point of going to cuckchan?

I'm not playing right now, my mods haven't updated yet. It's just not the same experience if I'm not losing half my fortress to a legendary pokemon and I'm not exterminating the do-gooder races with my magic koopa army.

>>13928528

>PIDF day

goddamn, every thread

im on to you (((stein)))way you mongrel you hear me?

>>13928508

>game has gay and tranny dwarves, horrible optimization, 2 or 3 songs

>the fucking ui is what you think the biggest problem is

>>13928566

well my angry little paladin maybe if the interface was completely amazing you could sort dwarves by sexual preference and segregate them so they dont decoratesecrate my goddamn fortress every saturday

Here's my blood-filled underground reservoir. Digging a deep channel is a bit more complicated now that dwarves can climb up. Used to be a dwarf had no choice but to keep digging until the channel was done. Now they can take a break and climb back up, which means I'm dealing with scaffolding now and things get messy.

>>13933815

I didn't make a thread in the wrong place, faggot. You're posting in the wrong place.

Anyway, does anyone else actually play this game? The previous thread about the update was all shit talking. Now the only people bumping this thread are replying to the retarded troll.

>>13927751

Maybe he means >>>/vg/1102 here, which would be even more retarded than cuckchan's /vg/, because nobody wants to hang out in a therad that gets a new post once every 2 months.

is ascII the best graphical option or are the meme options actually valid?

>>13937038

It's all personal preference. People put a lot of work into their tilesets and some look very nice. I prefer ascii because I like to download and play a new update as soon as it's released without having to drag over mods or wait for them to release compatible versions.

>>13937632

This.

>Military overhaul

>New gigantic trees, taverns, chapels

>CLIMBING

>Embark on volcano, have a super tall pipe

>Dig above magma

>Dwarven pathing decides that the most efficient path was to climb up and down the fucking volcano pipe above the lava instead of my more generous path

>Only one person died in the decade I had that fort

Good times

Dwarf Fortress still has no GUI and looks like a bunch of garbage code. Wonderful. Let me know when it's actually playable.

>>13937741

Well speaking of volcanoes

>Build near a volcano

>People dying from lava crabs

>They even come out of the volcano to sake their thirst for dwarf blood

>Despite the irregular death from crabs become a large 200+ pop fort with adamantine

>But have way to many kids

>40+ kids

>Decide to sate the crabs and solve my child problem

>Make scaffolding of floors over volcano

>Make stockpiles of food, beds, dining room and well water around volcano

>Need to cross 1 wide floor scaffolding to go to each room

>Children slowly die from crabs and falling in lava

>Ones who survive gain godly dodging skills and become emotionally numb

That's a dwarf win win

>>13937992

>They even come out of the volcano to sake their thirst for dwarf blood

You’re confusing sate and slake. You want slake.

>>13938017

No the crabs were making sake out of dwarf blood

Are you even reading the patch notes that's a thing now.

>>13937741

My issue is quite simple. They'll climb out of the channel but will not climb back down to continue the job. Even with scaffolding all the way down the channel, they would never continue that dig job. I had to dig horizontally, then make a stairwell the rest of the way down. What do other people do when they want to pump water down from a river into and underground reservoir?

>>13937632

>>13937038

i have vision problems so i have a lot of issues trying to play ascii

>>13938671

May or may not help for you but the new update fixed up zooming. You can zoom in farther now and make the symbols pretty large.

Is there a newb pack for the latest version? 44.02 I think

>>13938452

Digging a channel now creates a ramp, so I don't think they can dig straight down unless you use stairs

>>13928589

just do it the old fashioned way, through tedious micromanagement and looking individually at dwarves to root out heathens

>>13940179

Digging a channel always created a ramp.

>Over year old fort

>small dedicaded military in training

>there's giant sponge for training purposes in the area too

>undead siege wipes out fort because I was doing overland castle

attempt was made

>>13937992

>embarked near volcano

>magma crabs coming out to bully my people

>some random carpenter getting tired of its bullshit and beats the shit outta from crab

That was when newer version came around in 2014. Fun times

>>13940699

earlier versions didn't do it

i want to play but how the fuck do i play

>>13933882

yah havent played update yet

>>13937899

right now. you can play it….unless youre a total bitch

>>13941504

It means nobility moves into your fort. I think it starts with a duke. If your fort does well enough it will become the capital of the civilization and the king or queen will move in. There is no perk. Nobles just add annoyance but it can be fun.

Any advice on embark setups? I know the gist of taking miners/woodcutters/leaders and so forth but I haven't kept up to date on the more efficient setups and new jobs that may be necessary.

>>13943948

Just use the default and then bunker down until you get migrants.

https://github.com/DFHack/dfhack/releases

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>>13941501

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Quickstart_guide

Get yourself a starter pack with dfhack and use one of the embark presets when making your fort. In dfhack, enable labormanager so you don't need to worry about assigning labors, which is probably the most complicated thing for a new player. Your first fort is doomed to fail so just go play and learn from your mistakes. If you don't know how to do something, check the wiki.

>>13944557

>not leading the army through a gauntlet of weapon traps and then harvesting and melting their armor for metal

>>13944567

But goblinite is ezmode.

>>13944557

No badger bone crossbows?

>>13944782

My hunters use badger bone crossbows and bolts. I probably should militarize them and put them up on the walls, but I haven't got around to it.

>>13945116

I can't play without it these days. It does so many things for you.

>mountain embark

>building an aboveground tavern with rented rooms

>chopped down every tree on the non-mountain-biome part of the map

>which was at the top of the mountain somehow

>put wood burner in the unfinished tavern to use up the logs scattered around

>need soap

>put lye maker next to wood burner

>queue up lye production and soap production

>soap production cancels

>no lye-containing item

>check the lye maker workshop

>he finished the job and there's a bucket in there

>check the bucket

>frozen lye

>>13945882

I've never played with it personally but those extra search/find functions in all the menus seems like it would be extremely useful.

>>13943948

The miner and grower should ideally only have those jobs. Good medical skills are pretty rare, so take a doctor. Woodcutter, miner, and hunter should not be militia dwarves as it fucks with equipment. Social skills are harder to raise now, so make sure your broker has judge of intent.

>>13946250

>with rented rooms

How can i do this?

>generate world

>only two dorf civs

>one, The Big Merchant, was destroyed in year 2 by a forgotten beast

>the other, The Strategic Syrups, made it to 47 until it was destroyed by elves, but still kept making enemies with creatures for the next 40 years

Is it a common thing to have dead/dying civ warnings or should I make a new world?

>>13947848

This is aleph _{0}th-level autism.

>>13938109

That’s a funny save, so I’ll let it slide.

>>13926705

You have to set the crop you want to grow for each season on each plot, the easy way to set up farms is to make a 3x3 plot for each crop and make a small food stockpile that only allows the seed specific to that crop adjacent to each one. Also make those seed stockpiles not accept barrels or your dwarves will plant really slowly hauling a barrel full of seeds around and it'll mess up more than one planter trying to plant the same thing because the barrel hauling dwarf monopolizes access to those seeds.

>>13938671

Did you find a tileset that helps you with it, i have similar issues with ascII

>>13954618

>>13954663

Pretty hilarious.

>>13926705

>But I feel like some retarded npc with a basement full of monsters while all these adventurers come kill them for me.

Seems accurate

>>13961443

Well, it's technically not lying.

>>13959645

Myths and Magic.

Stop posting on RimWorld threads. If you don't like it, you don't have to. Don't bring your autism there, same thing as you guys not liking RimWorld fags here.

>>13963714

Imagine being that liason. The first sight is a statue of this murderous expedition leader as well as memorial slabs for her victims. You make your way down to the main village, passing by statues of the goddess of death and suicide as well as engravings that further glorify the slaughter. You find the catacombs, dotted with sculpture gardens and drink stockpiles, where dwarves mingle and party with their dead. Nobody has the authority to release the monstrous expedition leader because she ordered the quarantine herself. You have to go back and tell the king there was no leader to talk to.

>>13963798

>thinking anyone can control chronic shit-stirrers

I hope you're aware there are faggots who live just to start drama between threads.

>>13963798

>check catalog

>no Rimworld thread to begin with

What are you even on about?

>>13963798

The solutions is easy

Stop posting rimworld threads :^)

>>13963886

>>13963798

This tbh.

>>13933882

>wait over a year for the update

>nothing fun to play with, only more boring shit just like the taverns and temple updates

I can understand how people can find fun things to do in taverns since it's just a shooting range but what the fuck are temples even for? I can't find anything worth while to do with them other than waste my time making paper and statues when I could be doing something more entertaining.

>>13964677

You can aquire a necronomicon and make all your dorfs into necros.

>>13964707

I was thinking of more sandbox style shit to play with. For example if Toady added different variety of liquds in the game it would change the game massively. Like finally being able to create a pool of blood, or build a cannon of slime. Sure I'll make a necronomicom once and then I'd be done with it after only one fortress.

>>13964763

>>13964742

It really doesn't need to simulate the fluids at a million billion ticks per drawn frame. Doing it once every N units of time is plenty, and I can't imagine it being very slow, being that it stores up to 0-7 values (3 bits worth) of fluid. Without looking into the technical details, he's probably done it so that 1 byte of fluid data represents two tiles: ABBB ABBB, where A is a toggle between water and magma, and B is the amount between 0-7

>>13964763

The problem with more fluids is interactions between them. Lava and water don't mix, they just create steam and shit. But what happens if you add a stream of blood, a stream of milk, and a stream of elven piss into a lake of water?

Every tile has to keep track of how much % of it is what, has to track it's own personal speed at which it moves and diffuses further, liquids might not mix at all, colors change, milk might curdle, what smell does it produce and how hard does it make Urist barf, does the barf mix in as well, are there now chunks in the liquid, what did Urist have for breakfast, etc.

>>13964810

There's probably a simple solution to this but knowing Toady he won't use that.

>>13964810

Stuff like barf could be a tile staining liquid. If we ever get multiple liquids it would be at the end of the development when he added multiple core support

>>13964810

>>13964804

This is what I was getting at.

SS13 is built on top of such air mixtures, but it plays such a minor role in the game that it's only ever relevant if the entire tile is out of whack. You could grossly simplify it.

DF is basically the same thing, but more nuanced, too. So what do you do?

>>13964839

>when he added multiple core support

So 2074, then.

>>13964873

I don't see any other way he would be able to simulate other liquids. Hell maybe he wouldn't have to do every liquid. If he just added more liquids I'd be happy. blood is a big one. but this way he won't have to make them mix since blood floats.

>>13965402

i dont know when ill find a use for this but i feel like i will eventually. Probably when someone says something sympathetic towards elves.

the only reason why tarn won't release the source code of DF is because the code looks like a mangled mess of spaghetti and he's ashamed of that

>>13965451

>implying he's ashamed

Like he would let anyone else touch his work while he gets those sweet patreon dollars.

>>13965495

if he wanted money he would have made his game not freeware

>>13965541

If he made it something to be paid for he'd get nothing substanstial to live on. Patreon is a long term supply of cash as long as he keeps giving the donors what they're paying for. No matter how long he stretches it.

>>13967005

Sounds like a Loyalty Cascade.

>>13967047

What? I thought those got fixed with the latest version.

>>13974505

Never mind, just checked the workshops and realized I'm a massive baka. I tied a stockpile to my quern to make sure they weren't milling anything but dimple cups and I neglected to add bag storage there, so they could have all the bags in the world and it wouldn't help.

I am going insane and I need help

I thought you could build stairs directly under other stairs, in fact I am almost 100% sure that's how I did it on every other fort I made, but on this last one my dwarves refuse to dig anything if they have to go through a down stair (not u/d), sometimes they decide to work but only if there isnt another stair right below, most of the time I have to cancel everything and do channeling instead, then they'll dig and cross z levels. And this only happens with down stairs, u/d stairs work most of the time, only most

I thought you could communicate 2 levels with a down stair and building an up stair directly below, but now it doesnt work. What in the fuck

>>13974505

Top kek bitch.

>>13976410

Tested it out and seems you're right. I do these from muscle memory and just assumed the down stair took the first block below ground, but now thinking about it again it makes no sense.

I want to make a temple of love to an erotic goddess but random gen keeps letting me down. When are we going to be able to make up our own religions?

>>13977089

>When are we going to be able to make up our own religions?

Soon™.

Also, >mfw 108th post in the thread

>>13976578

Try and be clearer in the future, I could have answered that question but your post was incoherent.

Eh, bump

>>13978681

I once had a volcano pipe fort. Nothing fancy but I was mining the upper layers from the top or some project and a few dwarves died to carelessness and caveins

Ghosts appeared. I had everyone die, but I liked the layout, so I embarked again. There was constant fucking interruptions trying to make slabs and memorialize everyone, but I couldn't keep up, and everyone kept getting spooked and eventually I generated more ghosts faster than I was curing them and it happened again.

I think the initial few deaths were from a strange mood gone wrong. I can't remember

I cant get anything clear from the wiki and forum posts, how safe are walls built on the surface? Could a giant beaber destroy them? Do civilized creatures use rams, catapults or something? I was planning on making a tunnel to connect every defensive position in the fort, including the entrance walls but if they can break 1 tile and slaughter my 20 crossbowmen, it's pretty pointles

Speaking of which, the game treats z levels as regular tiles right? Can I shoot something that is 2 z levels below me?

>>13987633

Unless things have changed, walls are all completely safe as long as you don't neglect to build a ceiling for them (if outside).

The only things that invaders can attack are constructed buildings, such as bridges and doors. There are plenty of ways to make your fort 100% impregnable, but that's kind of boring so you really don't want to bother.

Instead, leave a few routes into your fort that meander through a festival of death.

>>13987633

Didn't read the rest of your post like a faggot.

>if they can break 1 tile and slaughter my 20 crossbowdwarfs

They can't break shit, but if you have windows, grates or other improvised arrow slits, many enemies can climb the walls and squeeze through them. Keep climbing in mind, as almost everything can just effortlessly scale a wall of arbitrary height. You need to make boxed off rooms, because ring walls with open skies will do fuckall.

>z-levels as regular tiles

Yes. Your dwarfs will shoot shit that's within their spherical range, and shit will shoot/divebomb you from within that range as well.

>>13974505

Ah the good old bagocalypse. Happens to me every time.

>>13989345

>1 tile wide passage

NO

>>13989345

There are various beasties that can squeeze through fortifications, so I wouldn't recommend using them ever.

>>13989817

Only demons made of liquid can unless the entire thing is submerged in water.

>>13992769

Oh.

Thanks, now I have to dig through the multiple layer deep aquifer just below the stairs I dug. Fug.

>>13994658

Now this is something not even the elves would do, and they're the kind to declare war on you if you bring them a cup of your best ale.

>>13994658

Whatever posessed the brothers to convince them direct donations were somehow NOT the best system?

so im startin up a fresh fort.

how do you guys generally conscript your military? My embark and first couple migrations gave me dwarves with 90-98 strength so i immediately conscripted them. The quick start on the wiki said i should only conscript people with prior military experience but most of them are weak as shit.

Im not concerned with the dwarves fee fees about being conscripted as those things can be mitigated. I only care sorting through which dwarves are best for the military meat grinder so i can allocate all my industry to my weaklings.

TLDR: what are the best dwarves for my military.

>>13996891

As a donation platform, Patreon was originally convenient and had a ton of organization and analytics. The naive person in me wants to say they taxed the low donations to encourage "worthwhile content", but like >>13994658 said, it was all just a Jewish trick.

I see furfag artists using Ko-fi, so maybe that'll be the new go-to

>>13996901

Traps do the fighting.

>>13996901

I just round up my most useless dorfs (wax crafters, potash makers, fisherdorfs in a desert embark) and put them through the Gulag training program (see here: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Cross-training#Gulag_.28miner.29.) Anyone who makes it to Legendary gets promoted to the regular military. It works out for me, so I'd recommend you do it as well. Of course, remember to keep some around for hauling duty.

>>13996901

I normally conscript useless dwarves or dwarves fit for military (big guys, strong guys, resilient guys, fast guys and so on). Then I take them from my work camp of a fort and put them in barracks near the exit, in which they'll never see anyone again and train 24/7. This is when I'll build a squad dedicated to directly receiving orders to attack.

Once I have a good number of dwarves, I'll start dividing their time between training and patrol work. Once this is good enough, I'll build archer towers.

If I have a hueg 200 dwarf fortress I'll conscript every single civillian and tell them to train for a month of the year, or i'll make 10 dwarf squads in which 2 of them train at any time, this is so civillians have SOME combat ability which makes all the difference when you got a devil plowing through your bards.

I also remove all of the allowed labors except hauling from a military dwarf, it might seem useless because they train 24/7 but when I have a lot of hauling to do I can cancel their schedule and they'll go haul to get stronger.

>>13947848

>>13947896

>basic descriptions of the musical structure of fictional music, with fictional scales and so forth

>high level autism

You can understand this shit with like 2-3 days of music theory study.

>>13997762

I understood the scripting language in my lego robots toy in a day because it was simple as fuck and made for kids to program their lego robots, but that doesn't make it less autistic.

Anon's screenshot is more autistic than LEGO Mindstorm Robotics Invetion System 2.0.

>>13997733 (checked)

>they'll go haul to get stronger.

I thought hauling didn't increase your attributes. Did Toady mention changing that somewhere?

So enemies can climb walls now. What if I put a floor above the wall though?

Has anybody fucked with elves in this update yet?

You can attack other civilizations so I started a new fort but it's not battle-ready just now.

I'm making a designated elf bone breaking squad. It has 9 wrestlers and it's called Darkholme Disciples. When their skills are good I'll send them to break some elf bones while wearing nothing.

>>14003908

Pretty sure they can climb horizontally too

>>14004859

From my experiences, they don't climb if there's a path that avoids climbing. So, an outer wall won't keep them out, but having one with an open entrance will direct them through it and straight into any traps you've placed.

>tfw you gotta explain to the teacher and two students what DF is in the middle of class

>>14004945

they like it?

>>14004876

It's called weapon traps along the edge of your wall and the whole thing doesn't matter anyway. Any monster that can't be defeated by a single cage trap is going to destroy any wall or bridge blocking it's path. This has been true since long before climbing was added.

>>14003908

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Climber

This should help.

>>14004945

Don't be such a cocktease, anon. Post storytime.

>>14004945

I'll remind you we browse the same board, you dick loving cum stained monkey

>>14005083

They asked me what that shit was and I barely could explain them that it's a fun game on ascii and I am not autistic, that's it

>>14004329

>When their skills are good I'll send them to break some elf bones while wearing nothing

Thats a good way to get them killed.

>>14005140

stop pretending to be me

>>14005267

Im not pretending to be gay though

>>14005285

yes youre being gay for reals

>>14004707

>all those tiny brains

Maybe they're used as dwarven spices?

>>14005149

Sounds very masochistic.

Oekaki >>13979033

>>13976967

I just want the only part of me that bleeds when playing DF to be my brain, my eyes don't have to too.

I just got back from a three month hiatus, how's the new updates?

>>14010218

It's shit, dont come back

>>14008995

Do the world a favor and make your wrists bleed.

>>13996901

draft everyone, rotating shifts of training, the weak are culled. slows down work on other projects slightly at first, but if you get the labors and squads set up right everyone just trains instead of wasting time in the tavern

waste not want not

>>14010218

Still no mouse support.

>>14011520

Try Aurora maybe?

>>14011549

Aurora 4x has nothing in common with Dwarf Fortress.

>>14011522

>what is dfhack

You won't even use it 99.9% of the time because it's inefficient. The one situation I find it desirable in is when I missed a couple tiles designating something. Really though what do faggots like you hope to accomplish with these posts? All you are doing is virtue signalling your shit taste.

>>14014338

I like to use it to create ponds and small lakes in places wherever there's holes in the ground. Not even to score myself an extra water source, i do it for the A E S T H E T I C S

>>14017361

Oh, and rivers. I like making "artificial" rivers.

>>14011520

Try to cryogenically freeze yourself around 100 years until Toady II will make it.

>>14014300

You collect resources and defend against attackers, nigger.

>>14014300

>>14017396

No problem, I'll make it myself.

>>14003514

What do all the new races imply, in terms of fort development? How does military and economy work?

>>14021615

I'm not really sure what you're asking, but just in general, the game might get much harder because some of the demon races are way harder than goblins. As for the economy, that hasn't been implemented into the game yet so I don't know what you're asking. I guess you can find armor made out of new materials, and new weapons scattered across the different civs, so that kind of changes the economy?

>>13965402

fukn saved

>>14022736

Feels weird how dead it feels in here. I've been in this thread and went past that image several times over the course of almost two weeks. Now an anon replied to that fossil post.

>>14022777

Dorf Fort is a niche game, not that many folks here to discuss it with

>>14022777 (checked)

Well, here's a general question to get the ball rolling. I'm having a problem with my fort design. Namely, Every time I start the fort I design my entrance the exact same way regardless of biome. Do you have anything to suggest as an inspiration to mix it up a little? Just from an aesthetic point of view, security is no issue to me. Suggestions regarding use of material for aesthetic purposes are welcome as well.

>>14022836

Make a moat filled with cats as the only defense to a 3x3 staircase entrance

>>14022836

Dig straight down into the first cavern layer and build an underground city using aboveground construction techniques.

>>14022862

I think he specifically wanted design ideas for the entrance.

>>13996901

I usually do this >>13997733, then when I get a military force of 15 melee and 10 archers I draft everyone else and give them all crossbows and some low tier armor, except miners, woodcutters and hunters because of bugs. It's fun because when any invader shows up there's an immediate flash of bolts from everywhere.

>>14022836

I sometimes like to make aboveground forts with minimal digging, if possible. This could be harvesting a whole forest to make a shitty palisade wall, or do an open aztec temple feel with a small ditch or fortification-style wall around it

>>14022862

One of my more common projects is digging straight down to the cavern layer in a seperate location, setting up a tavern/garrison there for outsiders, then setting up the entrance of my fortress on that layer if possible with my dworf garrison.

>tfw haven't played dwarf fortress since DF hack never updated

>updates were shit and not fun

>lack of sieges and overpowered dwarves meant no fun to be had

Allright motherfuckers I'm going to finally start a fortress after 2 years of waiting. To make it challenging I'm going to make my dwarves fight with no weapons and train animals for war only. Optionally I could maybe make the Dwarves pure carnivores so no eating veggies but how would I get around the booze problem?

>>14022946

Mead from bees

>>14022946

Slap this in your reactions folder

[REACTION:MAKE_MEATWINE]

[NAME:make meatwine]

[BUILDING:STILL:HOTKEY_STILL_BREW]

[REAGENT:A:1:MEAT:NONE:NONE:NONE]

[REAGENT:barrel/pot:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]

[EMPTY]

[FOOD_STORAGE_CONTAINER]

[PRESERVE_REAGENT]

[DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]

[PRODUCT:100:5:DRINK:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:DRINK_MAT]

[PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:barrel/pot]

[PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]

[SKILL:BREWING]

>>14022969

I'm no stranger to modding the files. I was actually planning on modding a few animals to be trainable in war. Something about making items do the impossible feels like cheating. For example I could make iron ore turn into gold when smelted. This feels the same.

>>14022958

Excellent.

While I'm at it everyone tell me which animals I should add the [Trainable] tag on

>>14022990

Also, a goose or two will shit out enough eggs to keep your fort well fort for months, if you prepare and cook them. Nothing wrong with a 4x minced egg roast

Alpacas have lots of wool, milk, meat, too

>>14022990

If you really wanted to "cheat" and get in the festive spirit, make every color a variant of red, white, green, or maybe blue/gold.

Make an alcohol reaction to create eggnog

>>14022862

Interesting idea, but I fear the trading caravan would take too long to get to my depot and depart halfway through. Or go insane.

>>14022909

>I sometimes like to make aboveground forts with minimal digging, if possible. This could be harvesting a whole forest to make a shitty palisade wall

Funny, I once did just that because I felt in the mood to do the "bandit" challenge. Now that raiding other sites is possible, I should be able to take it to its logical conclusion.

>>14023014

>If you really wanted to "cheat" and get in the festive spirit, make every color a variant of red, white, green, or maybe blue/gold.

I'd advise against this because it ends up being a pain in the ass. Just import the materials that have the appropriate colors and go from there.

>>14023050

>It's a little too late for a festive fort, maybe next year

So let's see, you'd embark on a glacier or tundra, have reindeer or caribou as animals, maybe bears. Somewhere cold and snowy. Dwarves would have green and white outfits, perhaps red for military or nobles. Crafting toys for export, too

>>14023069

>Interesting idea, but I fear the trading caravan would take too long to get to my depot and depart halfway through. Or go insane.

As soon as the caravan arrives you'll be able to send a bunch of dwarves to bring items to the depot and when he arrives you can make all your trades and be done with it. Time isn't really an issue since it'll be located on the first layer. The issue is getting the trader to ride down since they can't use stairs. You could dig winding tunnel around the stairs that leads to the cavern layer.

>>14023094

>So let's see, you'd embark on a glacier or tundra, have reindeer or caribou as animals, maybe bears. Somewhere cold and snowy. Dwarves would have green and white outfits, perhaps red for military or nobles. Crafting toys for export, too

I'm now in the festive mood.

>>14023148

Wanna make a fort right now and compare them as we go?

>>14023148

>>14023094

Maybe we should all pick the same map and see what bullshit we pull with it in a week.

Playing Masterwork Orcs but building above ground forts is hell.

To be honest I'm tempted to ditch Masterwork and just play vanilla DF.

Anyone know why Dwarf The Rapist keeps crashing and refuses to work?

>>14023194

>>14023190

Fuck it I'm down. I won't get much done during the weekend since I'm working.

>>14022946

>>14023050

I'll leave this here and let you work the rest out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis

>>14023308

I'm down as well, go ahead and upload the world to Mega when it's done. Question though, is it allowed to use DFHack?

>>14023454

Disregard image

Does DF hack work with the the newest version of dorf fort? I've been spoiled.

>>14023793

Works well enough for me, so I don't think you'll have any trouble.

Well this is about all I can play for now, got through the first half of the year without a problem

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hgbe0w0zu3odrt7/region2_01_autumn.zip?dl=0

>Only had 1 pick and ice, and 3 wood so resources were scarce

>Slaughtered reindeer as best I could before they all starved to death

>Managed to scavenge a few native plants, set up a plump helmet farm

>Found Kaolinite, Limonite, stone, and Gold

>>14023843

Pretty impressive overall. How did you do to acquire a water source? The old sequential cave-in method or something else?

>a bunch of bullshit about walls

Most of the shit in this thread is wrong. Make a wall, put an overhang, put fortifications above your overhang, and put an overhang over your fortifications so your marksdwarves don't climb out.

And then just trap the shit out of everything and use a drawbridge over a spiked pit.

>>14027765

What I want to know is how to make a dwarf stay in a hole to continue his channeling job without him climbing out. Maybe I can place a hatch on the hole quickly before he decides to climb out?

>>13926429

From what I hear obsidian is really sharp but it sucks against metal armor.

>>14028209

The Spaniards conquistadors saw obsidian weapons when they invaded but they defeated it by throwing armor on their troops. Any weapons used to slash would lose their edge after one strike against armor and since the native Aztecs never needed a thrusting weapon, they had no answer to armor. Today Obsidian is used in high quality scalpels.

>>14011522

Am I retarded or something? Why do people keep saying this? I use my mouse to paint shit for designation all the time in vanilla DF. Did I install a mod and forget about it because I've had DF installed for so long?

>>14028243

I remember doing this myself but when I tried recently I couldn't do it.

>>14028239

I know what obsidian does in real life, I was talking about in game. Materials have "yield" and "shear" values which equivocate to the same mechanical engineering concepts. Obsidian has a high shear value but yields to metal armor easily according to the wiki, it does say that it defeats leather and wood armor though.

>>14028086

Make the channeling designation with a priority of 1.

>>14028209

>>14028260

This should help: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Obsidian

>>14028267

Doesn't work.

>>14028344

what exactly is the problem?

>>14019666

CHECKED SATAN.

>>14028409

I think that has perpetually been an issue, I just sort of accept it because it kinda makes sense that a dwarf wouldn't want to get trapped in a hole. You could also just make each channel with a ramp all the way down, then remove the ramps starting with the lowest level and going up

>>14028409

Make a bridge that goes over the hole to trap him in, lol.

>>14028459

>, lol

have you ever wondered what a dwarf trapped in a hole would smell like i mean im just curious even though its totally gross haha

>>14028459

But would the dwarf continue digging after they figure out they're trapped?

>Elves! I'm stuck in this hole

>Well I'm a keep a diggin'

>>14029235

Yeah that's how it previously worked when they couldn't climb. They'd work on the only task they're able to do and occasionally sleep.

>>14029235

I have this same problem since climbing was added. Yes they will continue digging if they are trapped. Deep channels used to be easy because of this. Now, they climb out when they want a food or drink break and refuse to climb back down because it is not safe to get to. Bridge idea will not solve the problem because they will climb up to the bridge but won't climb down. Problem is they always refuse to climb back down.

What is /v/'s favorite kind of embark?

I personally settle in the coldest hellhole possible for that Norway experience.

>>14029707

Deserts, of course.

>>13994658

Capitalism working as intended.

>>14029866

Why there instead of glaciers?

>>14027584

Haven't gotten to a water source yet. I suppose you could dig deep enough to hit an aquifer, right?

>>14023843

why did you make 6 different mason workshops?

I'll play this world for some time. Never done a icy shithole with no wood.

>>14030333

The ones up top were made of ice, and were originally to make some basic provisions. I made 4 in the chamber in the mines so I can produce stone blocks quickly and on-site.

https://mega.nz/#!8XJ3CCIQ!hN_jL3fF5fwSXfTvsdInF5UuMmcepcQEj51TEJaZRyQ

Spent a year and a few months expanding on the fortress. The embark spot has no aquifers, no lava tubes but two candy spires. Got a magma furnace and smelter running and made a few iron bars so I got in a pretty comfortable position where I just need to smelt all the silver ore and smith the bars into warhammers and then make weapon traps.

>>14031070

>Candy spires

Jesus christ how festive

Don't forget to make toys, though

How good is the wiki tutorial?

>>14031627

It has all you need to get started, but be aware it's really a startup guide. You'll eventually veer off to other wiki pages for other information.

So is it better to have a dedicated and constant single military force about the size of a third of your total pop (of otherwise useless potash fuckers and etc) or should I draft EVERYONE and rotate them? I'm honestly not sure which is better, they both have distinct benefits. If you have a single dedicated force, they're overall more skilled and probably better armed and armored, but a whole-fort militia means that literally every dorf will be able to stand a fighting chance even if they're, say, ambushed in the caves or something.

>>14032182

I usually keep everyone in rotating squads, because of just that, for when some crazy shit jumps up someone's ass while caving. I just make sure there's at least someone somewhat proficient left to do the job they left. You either have a few lucky waves or someone gets stuck getting better at a particular job through that whole cycle.

Flags, man. Goddamn.

>>14032212

Though being fair, making everyone mine as much as possible often helps. The number of times I've had a trog merked casually by a miner 'mining' out their head, spine, or guts has been uncountable.

>>14032234

I really mainly run into ye olde chestnut of a hunter or fisher throwing combat logs at me with some new bio-terror I have to look up. It is a lot more fun-making if you have wimpy miners, you're right. Just all the fresh hell they can possibly lead up into a fort before you get an eye on it. Having everyone mining can really bog down a fort, sort of like hauling. I just like to have a rolling fort because it kind of cuts down on mood stuff, at least as I've had it go, or makes for highly entertaining creations when it still happens.

>>13959645

Roaming crusades, I hope.

>>14032234

I've been invaded by a brown elf necromancer. At least, I think she's a necromancer, because she's the only one marked as an Invader and not Undead. I pulled up the drawbridge, my only entrance, so I should be fine, but there's a fisherdorf still out there.

Welp.

Enjoy fighting off the invasion, Urist.

>>14032182

>>14032212

1 dwarf can support 4 others with his labor, so I keep half my dwarves in the military, and have a quarter do all the core work, and have the rest handle construction for the mega project and manage stockpiles.

I'm constructing walls and a trench around my fort so they come in handy.

My end goal is to convert the fort into a necromantic citadel and have every citizen be an immortal necro.

>>14032182

Numbers don't matter if you have better training and equipment.

Having 10 legendary dwarves in full steel is better than having 50 in ragtag shit gear though now with the way seiges and necromancers work you don't want to use armies to fight your enemies head on unless you like getting overrun. Main use of military is raiding and killing stragglers like Giants or cave monsters.

>>14034195

them there trees*

>>14034195

you know what you have to do

>>14034228

They keep moving from tree to tree. I'll try to isolate them by strategically chopping different trees to cut off their escape then surround that tree with cage traps.

>>14034913

>vine-swinging giant alligators

Just got 18 migrants in one wave, more than doubling the population of my fort. It's been a while since I've played, are migrant waves usually this big?

>>14037136

i got 30 once

>>14037136

I've had a fort go from 14 to 68.

It was just like real life nigger immigrants, they all had babies and they kept pouring in even though I couldn't sustain everyone.

And then they all became NEETs.

>>14037188

>>14037136

>>14038334

pretty sure its based on generated wealth

>>14039302

Try this: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Worldgen_examples#Ice_Age

>>14040399

Just wait for some more alligators to swing by. Build a lot more cage traps in the meantime.

I'm fairly new to this game.

Are all lakes murky pools?

If not, how would I get more water?

>>14040637

Embarking near a river gets you a good supply of clean, fresh water.

>>14040580

?I personally do two layers deep and cover the area-remember that things can go diagonally too.

>>14040580

To catch wildlife, your best bet is surround your entire embark with a 2 tile wide cage trap square. If you're not too hilly, considering evening out the terrain if you REALLY want to catch the critters.

Also should lower the bird count in the raws, every species of bird has like a 250-500 pop vs 10-20 pop for every other animal.

>>14040637

If the water isn't flowing, it'll be murky/muddy.

What the fuck, this isn't Rimworld.

>>14041427

Do remember that walls are climbable as of version 0.43.

>>14041464

I'd advise against doing this. You'll get a good bunch of animals in the short term, but you'll drive the local fauna extinct eventually. Just place a bunch of traps close to your entrance.

>>14033230

>Now with the way sieges and necromancers work

>overrun

Did they change it again? For the longest time I could only get a few pathetic sieges if I embarked right next to a goblin fortress with a huge population.

>>14040074

Thanks brah.

>>14040637

There's a good chance the first caverns have water as well but getting it to where it's needed is a little more complicated.

>>14041464

Yeah but I want to know if all lakes are murky pools because murky pools regenerate in rain.

>>14043108

If you're bordering a lake, as in it is called that on the world map, you have an infinite supply of fresh water.

Any tilesets that are just vanilla but square? I forgot how much these rectangles sting my autism.

>>14043434

I made a decent "upscale" version of the original tileset in square called "dan_16.png", but I don't have it saved on my PC or wiki or anywhere else.

>>14043439

Sounds interesting. Maybe I should learn how to make my own. Since I'm literally the only person I know who's bothered by the rectangle style in vanilla and too autistic to use graphical tilesets.

>>14043434

There's a hotkey that stretches the font so it's square, but it stretches the font so things get ugly and I'd rather just play with rectangles.

I'm interested in this too.

>>14043596

The closest thing I could find was CLA but that's a tileset that changes a bit and zooms in on the game.

I caged a vulture man.

Is there anything I can do with him?

I'm thinking about leaving him on display at the tavern or something, someone's bound to like vulture men and get a happy thought.

I remember when I experimented with slavery. I heard a story that an anon got a lion man to work in a workshop. I attempted to make troglodytes work for me but the most I was ever able to achieve was a troglodyte architect and animal trainer. To answer your question, use him as bait on the surface. If a were monster shows up , open his cage to allow dwarves to escape.

>try square tilesets

>all of them look like ass or add retarded custom tiles to ascii

I just want a square tileset that's just like default ascii but I cant find anything

>>14044123

The worst part is that I heard of one that is exactly like that from an anon on halfchan /vg/ long ago. That was back in the day when I used shitty tilesets so I never saved the ascii square.

>>14044092

This mean't for >>14044046

>>14044154

is there any reason why all square tilesets look like they only use 3 pixels in total? Default tileset looks really sharp but all square tilesets I've installed look blurry

>>14044046

You can chain him as a lookout in case of ambushes and werebeast attacks

Use metal chains.

>>14044046

Somehow I also caged a vulture woman. Those niglets keep trying to steal my food.

I put them both inside my manager's office so he can get cucked a bit to relieve his stress.

>>14040074

So I tested this and it doesn't produce a Goblin civ in the latest version sadly.

So apparently forgotten beasts have become meek in this update to the point where they will just stick to their corner in the cave and never move even to destroy buildings.

>>14044932

First the sieges and now the FB's. Nothing is sacred in Toady's conquest of all things fun.

>working as intended

I'm making a palisade encampment outside the front entrance of my fort.

>>14047700

Have fun watching literally every enemy climb or jump over it like it's not even there.

>>14048467

What if you make it big?

>>14048499

Nobody here is going to make it big, anon.

>cyclops appears

>too weak to defeat it

>spend 1 year cozy in my locked down fortress developing its food and textile industries so that I can support less working dwarves and more soldiers covered in cloaks

>send 2 guys to fuck with the cyclops and see what happens

>they die, other soldiers come in to loot their body and get their asses kicked

>finally figure out how to burrow soldiers, the military UI is misleading

>lost 10 marksmen/wrestlers

>their bodies are still rotting

>cozy again I am

>goblin siege appears

>they dart it to the cyclops

>goblins get a can of ass kicking delivered to their rears

>2 goblins left

>lower the bridge to the outside

>goblins go right into my cage traps

I already have a vulture man and a vulture woman cuckolding my manager in his bedroom, if I manage to get a female goblin I'll put her and a male in my mayor's room.

>>14022909

I've done that a couple times but I built all my structures out of marble and made marble brick roads. Never got around to building the castle because there's usually a new version coming out by the time I come close to finishing a megaproject. Sounds like a great idea now, given the new visitor sites. I'm really enjoying the idea of intruders trying to steal from a museum filled with traps (which they won't trigger, because MASTER THIEVES) and guard dogs, picking the moment that I shift my guards from one squad to another.

>>13996901

I draft from the useless dorfs once I have things up and running. I also like to use hunting as a means of training the crossbow because they spend all day doing it, unlike the ones using an archery target.

>>14032182

Always, ALWAYS rotate squads. Give them at least two months off total in the year if you can afford to do so. If you have large peasant forces, give them even more so they can do whatever menial tasks you need of them.

>>14048467

I'm still on 44.02 so I'll just designate the area as a place for all the visitors to stay. Also moats

>>14050127

> Also moats

They can swim too.

>>14050187

Hope your moats have lots of grass because tamed elephants starve to death if they're not constantly grazing.

>>14044407

>>14044616

Check to also see if your texture filtering mode is set to linear (blurry) or nearest (sharp)

>>14050199

I thought elephants starved faster then they ate once tame.

>>14051135

Not anymore, but they still go through grass like a lawnmower. Like I said, big pastures. Or stick to carnivores. The good ol' crocodile pit is a classic for a reason.

>>14050199

Surely I can just have them grazing until sieges come, then allocate them to the pen in the moat?

>>14051241

Or you could dig down into a subterranean cavern and seal it off right after so nothing crawls up from the deep. You'll get mushrooms growing on rock floors which they can graze on.

>>14051297

Couldn't you also poor water on the rock to have it grow? Or is that just for farming?

>>13940824

Mods. There's also a mod that turns sex into an aspect of combat, if you want to try that out along with the kobolds

>>13964810

Just add some tags:

[BOILABLE] object boils when in contact with [BOILING] liquids or in fire

[BOILING] Boils [BOILABLE] liquids

[STAINING] stains floors

As for mixing shit into a lake of water:

[CONTAMINANT] can poison dorfs

eg. piss, barf

[CONTAMINATED] has come into contact with a contaminant (has a probably of spreading to other non-contaminants)

[DILUTED] dwarfs won't like it, less chance of spreading if contaminant or contaminated

etc.

Also, nothing is truly "A mixture", just an item with slightly different properties that touch.

>boiling contaminated diluted milk

>>14051684

Eh, between the mermaid farms, modding in pedo rapists (that one was to Troll Toady), and the child super soldier experiments that's about the least disgusting thing I've encountered. It seems really silly though.

>>14051864

Did they ever nail down a efficient child super soldier experiment or is it all just way too out of the way to even try?

>>13964763

That just gave me inspiration.

I have little water so I can't drown my caged enemies, I'll drown them in blood.

>>14052557

>blood isn't a real liquid yet

>you can't pressurize blood or drown goblins in blood

I guess you can make them sick. Can you make cats burn for a flaming cat-a-pult?

>>14053567

No idea.

Currently I just throw them down a 20 z-level deep pit, but sometimes they survive. So I'm working towards installing an upright iron spear at the bottom and making the corridor after a line of stone-fall traps. It's less fun, though. I love reading what explodes into gore when they hit the ground.

Funny story, one time a goblin survived the fall with his arms and legs broken, so he crawled towards my manager and bit his eye off.

>>14053895

An average day, then?

>>14055464

It's better than being unable to go outside because a fireball-hurling butterfly forest titan set your entire embark on fire.

It just happened to me.

How do I see details of activities like Socialize and Listen to Music? I think this is possible, but I'm not sure how to do it.

>>14056782

I'd love to, but we should save it for the new thread since this one is in freefall.