/v/ - Video Games

>>13891228

Silent hill 2 was the best one. You are stupid

>>13891174

the first movie was top shit, you uncultured swine.

That's like one of the few good game movies.

kys

>>13891523

>Silent Hill 2 was the best one

First, that's debatable. Second, he's talking about the bad influence it caused, not the quality of the game itself.

>>13891920

>symbolism started with 2

>1, 3 and 4 are straight up horror games

Yeah, no.

>>13891930

2 was built from the main character and above, 1 3 and 4 the other way around. Please tell me off the deep symbolism revolving around generic dad looking for his daughter in a nightmarish world, or what is the deeper meaning behind fat tumor monster characters in SH3 or the monkeys with lead pipes in SH4.

It's illegal to be this stupid.

>>13892135

Stay triggered, you know i am right.

>>13891920

>meme game

Opinion discarded, buried and ignored.

>>13892177

It's not even the best SH game.

I've enjoyed most Silent Hill games and I've played most of them. The town's backstory and status as the real antagonist is often missed by the people who complain about the series. I tend to think about the places in the games rather than the game's story or characters, which are going through a translation and localization coming to the west.

Is the first movie actually worth watching? I've been worried especially after eventually having one of my favorite movies ruined by Terminator Genesis

>>13892249

>going through a translation and localization coming to the west

When you say "most Silent Hill games"…

>>13892825

It's ok as far as Video Game movies go.

>>13892825

Silent Hill is more like a place where your worst nightmares will come true.

>>13891920

I mean it's a good movie but some things don't makes sense if you base it on what your knowledge from the games are. Like for example the Red Pyramid is running around being Michael Myers.

>>13891174

Not exactly with the movie but yeah.

>>13891920

There was symbolism in all games BUT it was not in the same manner as SH2, stuff on SH1 was indeed from Alessa's mind, but not because some kind of sexual subtext, it was just fear and memories, in SH3 there is the whole rape, sickness and pregnancy allegories but they are once again not from Heather's, in SH4 there is a lot of stuff but is also from Walter's, hell, Walter hates women for example, the problem is how these people really think SH is all about therapy and your inner demonz.

>>13891950

There was this SH1 plot summary on GameFAQs that basically boils down to "Harry is in SH because he never told Cheryl she was adopted" and stuff like that.

>>13892825

>Is the first movie actually worth watching?

Nope

When I get reminded by Silent Hill fans that the game is actually about an evil pseudo satanic cult in a town on top of an indian burial ground I don't question why the series is dead.

>>13893180

So you didn't like the original games.

>>13893203

I can appreciate the artistry and the atmosphere around the games but I don't think the story, which gets brought up a lot, is really that good. I don't really care overall I just wanted to jab a bit but I immediately lost the motivation to continue.

Man At Arms go fucking ruined. Now it's mostly shitty buzzfeed-tier clickbait videos.

>>13893006

>video game movies

>”any game with Story is a movie”

When will this meme die?

>>13893249

*got

>>13893226

So, if the game was about your inner demonz you would have cared for the story?

>>13893180

Right. Because other classic series have such brilliantly original premises.

>>13893254

The fuck are you talking about? That anon is talking about the shitty hollywood adaptation of the game.

>>13891228

It's not that retards didn't understand, it's that every game after Silent Hill 2 tried to recreate the symbolism present in it and made it a core part of the series as a result. Now every enemy and Otherworld instance has to have characteristics based on a characters feelings or emotions, otherwise it's a bad Silent Hill game.

>>13893180

Tom Hewlitt please go

>>13893495

Wll, every western game that came after SH2, because the other two had their own stuff.

>Be OG silent hillfag, played the first game the week of release when underage, played the fucking GBA play novel version, the mobiles games. ALL the mobile games. and bought everything until book of memories because FUCK Tom.

I remember there was always a dislike in the SH fandom, though i hate the term in its modern usage, over how the series attracted proto emo kids who were armchair psychologists where EVERYTHING was "a representation of the protagonists sexual frustration" and these fags overlooked everything that wasn't "but perhaps" shit but clear cut and in your face.

>Game is about a tortured psychic girls nightmares overlapping realty

>Monsters are bugs, dogs, birds, little kids and medical staff. All her fears warped through ten+ years of suffering from 4th degree burns all over her body.

>Armchair psych grads make whole wikis about how its all about sex just because of its heavy undertones in 2.

>IP taken over by an asshole that thinks 2 was the best, cuts out the cult story and makes it the same story of an amnesiac in a magic therapist town over and over.

I would say the movie had a hand but really it just influenced Climaxes pitch for homecoming. The movie was its own fucked headcanon because the fruity french guy in charge on record went full lucas and said "and zo i wuz reeding ze script and zaid my god, zis is a story about matriarchy, witches and duppelgangas!" and its like a big budget version of those italian knock offs from the 70's where the crew didnt speak english and had to interpret through a cultural lense what they were ripping off and didnt get it quite right.

Nice looking movie, okay movie in a vaccuum but it didn't ruin silent hill, tom hullet being one of those kids that grew up to get control did.

>>13891870

>Back in college

>Halloween movie night at school

>Me and friend decide to watch it

>It's a fucking college event on a spooky night of drinking so of course like 4 other people showed up

>Actually pleased with how it went

>Shitpost at my friend about how "the themes of the movie were clearly about the mother/daughter role"

>I was actually right

>>13893612

Silent Hill 2's ending thing is neat, but it basically means I've only ever seen the best ending because of how I play, which is more about being an optimal player than taking care of myself.

>>13893254

hahaha, i still can't believe people as stupid as you are able to get on the internet in the first place

I don't know about silent hill games beyond what people say about silent hill 2 but here is my pitch

>Protagonist enters silent hill

>player is told very little about the character

>character sees shit that scares him and has a flashback to a repressed childhood trauma

>other tidbits of info are given to the player to lead them to believe that silent hill is centered around the protagonists fears

>introduce an NCP that is visually similar to the player character but seems to be either an idealized version of the protag or vice versa

>provide players with information that leads them to believe that the other guy is a versions of the protag if he did not have the experience that childhood trauma

>reveal that its not and they actually are different people but they both have a shared ex-lover who is dead

>leads the player to think this is a combined psych thing for 2 different people who are experiencing a similar loss

>the horrors become less relevant to the protag, and more to the other guy

>protag talks shit to the other guy for being afraid of some stuff

>lead players to wonder if they are a figment of they other guys personal psych silent hill

>reveal horror shit they has nothing to do with either of them

>turns out they are afraid of some similar but slightly esoteric things

>final twist is that the protagonist knows exactly what silent hill is but does not reveal anything specific to the player and you ending is based on, in part, how much time you wasted not pursing the objectives that the protagonist character, but not the player themselves, knew to be pursuing.

>>13893946

I think if they ever brought Silent Hill back they just need to do something beyond retreads. Like make a game where its about a character who lives there instead of rolling into town.

The biggest question Team Silent kept being asked was "if its a literal nightmare and not an otherworld where did the townsfolk go?"

We know most just left because the former boomtown resort was dying off and the cult was peddling White Claudia as drug dealers to keep businesses alive. Most left but some stayed.

Just think about the film version of 30 days of night. Most died instantly but some didnt. Imagine the innocent townsfolk of silent hill. You are some girl who went away to college and comes home but shit seems off. The old galespie house is still a ruin and not pulled down, more empty homes and your family all looks tired and scared.

You bleed in the horror and show the effects of the cults work instead of just 'fuck i dunno, therapy?' or something like that.

We know the events of 1 were not in some pocket universe so what happened in town at the time.

I realise this is basically Silent Hill Outbreak but whatevs.

>>13894019

>I think if they ever brought Silent Hill back they just need to do something beyond retreads. Like make a game where its about a character who lives there instead of rolling into town.

>The biggest question Team Silent kept being asked was "if its a literal nightmare and not an otherworld where did the townsfolk go?"

By the time SH1 rolls barely anyone is there, people left, some died and probably only the cultists are left there stalking Harry from the shadows.

>>13891174

Christoph Gans can create good atmospheric, ambient, and taboo themed movies, but in-hindsight, he should have followed what the devs did for between Silent Hill 1 and 2. Make their own fucking story that is self-contained, that movie's dialogue and writing was awkward and shit.

>>13894019

I was going to suggest that the protagonist was part of the cult but I have literally never heard about the cult stuff before this thread because I only know about what people say about SH2 so I didn't feel confident suggesting that.

I assuming it was a cult that was never really mentioned but it sounds like it was a pretty present plot point, so

>protag was in silent hill just to obtain something for the cult

>if you end up doing a bunch of pointless stuff when you leave you get accused by another cult member for wasting time and being told it wasn't a sightseeing tour

>if you leave without the thing they sent you there for (that the player would not necessarily know to take with them) you get murdered.

>>13894114

I wouldn't know I have never played a silent hill game in my life

>>13894114

Man you want to know some real shit?

I actually know one of the fucking writers of this game

A year or two before it came out i ran into Patrick Doody at a media event for people working in film at a low level. I was working on a horror webseries for a company and he was making a supernatural webisode spin off so we got talking.

Something lead to games and i mentioned how i loved silent hill.

He went on to tell me how Konami wanted a saw/hostel knock off but he was going in next week to tell them he wanted something focussed more on mystery and puzzle solving.

Didnt hear from him again till long after the downcoming released, i played 'silent hill V' on release and sure enough it lifts entire cutscenes from saw and hostel.

>>13894155

Do tell anon, any other juicy details?

>>13894168

As far as i know he never touched videogames again. Working for Konami: not even once.

Also unrelated but we both knew a guy that made a zombie movie, starring himself of course, and spent $130,000 printing copies that all read on the cover "THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT IS COMING TO AN" and i still look at the copy he gave me and laugh every time.

The movie nailed the look and the atmosphere even the camera at times especially in the beginning but the writing was just abject garbage. It's really bad. Literally "alright heres what the movie was about it was all a test BAZOOER" at the very end.

>>13894229

Anon, I found your friends movie.

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>>13894295

Also you think thats bad?

I WENT TO UNIVERSITY WITH A GUY WHO MADE AN UNDERTAKER FAN FILM

It became a 'so bad its good' legend at school because of the fat guy that played paul bearer who actually went on to become a bit character actor.

The series really did go to shit. I don't really harbor any ill will to any of the development teams themselves I'm sure they did the best with what the had to work with. Besides Hijinx. What they did to two of the best games in the series was horrible.

I stopped paying attention to the community sometime around "if you don't like Homecoming you are racist".

SH4 was the best one, get on my level scrubs

>>13894339

>"if you don't like Homecoming you are racist".

There's only one black guy in that game and every single character talked too much and every VA was some generic voice. If I recall correctly, the argument of those turd shill sites was "If you don't like and buy this game, we won't get any more Silent Hill games!" or "You aren't a true fan!" Where the fuck did racism get into this equation?

>>13894480

because americans made it.

bare in mind this was a time when microsoft and ea paid of journos to push a very anti japan sentiment in normalfag media to get a good 'panic year' on asia as they started to overtake the west again.

>>13894436

Did you notice all the woman hate imagery on SH4? I would have expected a feminazi to cling on that game among others.

>>13893226

The story is fantastic. "You are in a cursed/haunted/whatever town and you need to find your sister. Now go play the videogame". I don't know why people want videogames to have a convoluted novel-length story. I'm perfectly content with something like Zelda or Banjo Kazooie since the story/adventure comes in the form of the gameplay.

>>13895217

> I don't know why people want videogames to have a convoluted novel-length story.

It can help to spice up the gameplay when used right.

>>13893646

THANK

YOU

>if you don't like Homecoming you are racist

I don't understand.

>>13895265

Because liking the original games makes you a weaboo.

>>13893612

>SH1, 3, & 4 were about the cult and had nothing to do with a protagonist dealing with amnesia/guilt.

I kind of like the games that take place outside of the cult storyline. So long as they don't fuck with the story of the town and focus on a character driven story.

Origins was also about the cult.

>>13894485

And people learned the hard way when franchises made by the nips are given to foreigners, goddamn shame what happened to Lost Planet 3, Front Mission Evolved, Dead Rising, and more. It isn't fucking racism when you make a shit game.

>>13895311

Origins and Homecoming, and despite that they screwed a lot.

>>13891879

>First, that's debatable

First game had the cult story, which is very japanese but also very stupid. The city itself should be the ultimate enemy of Silent Hill, not some dudes in robes.

>>13895861

>The city itself should be the ultimate enemy of Silent Hill, not some dudes in robes.

The town itself turned out that way thanks to the cult messing with the sacred land though.

>>13895917

Japs have the bad habit of over-explaining mystery, to the point it becomes mundane or scientific. Few explanations and loose casuality keep the imagination wondering.

>>13895950

In short, you like it better when your headcanon is easier to insert.

>>13893351

Yeah, 2 is the point where "You need a high IQ to understand Silent Hill" faggots latched onto the game.

Also that second image explains nicely the difference between "open world" games and REAL open world games

>>13895950

Not just Japs though, it's a modern trend present everywhere. Every modern franchise seems to have this autistic need to explain every last bit of lore, usually ruining the suspense in the process.

>>13895993

>today I will throw a random buzzword at him

I hope you're underage, if you can't get that the appeal of mystery is precisely that it defies knowledge and understanding.

>>13896006

It's more normalfag than autistic. They want hard cash explanations, not uncertainties.

>>13896267

>They want hard cash explanations, not uncertainties.

And, did anyone tell them that overexplaining shit is what killed horror movies (Well, that and the overusage of the "jump scare")?

>>13896736

Maisie is doing porn now?

>>13891523

re4 was the best one and it ruined resident evil

>>13894425

It's a perfect neet simulator, i kinda understand why /v/ hates it. It's too close to home.

>>13891870

>the movie was the shit

No even fucking max Payne was better Thant that filthy shit that was SH

>>13897495

>RE4

>the best one

kys

>>13891920

You are correct.