debbb3 No.13869522
I hope it's not real due to the focus on streamlining, Serious Dante, Playstation exclusitivity and the remote mention of a stamina bar in a DMC game, but here's an archive just incase.
http://archive.is/ctwSB
debbb3 No.13869567
Hideaki Itsuno’s secret project for Capcom is the sequel to the original Devil May Cry series, the 5th installment. Internally it appears to be called “Devil May Cry V” instead of using the standard numeric system of the previous games (think MGS1-4 to MGSV).
RELEASE DATE AND PRODUCTION
>The game is slated to release some time in the fiscal calendar year of 2019. That means sometime between April 2018 and March 2019. Original plan was to release it in November 2018 but the date MIGHT have been pushed back to early 2019.
>Originally DMCV was intended to be announced at PSX but after receiving feedback on their E3 press conference, Sony decided to scale back on PSX and instead scale up E3 2018. DMCV was an unfortunate casualty of this choice and thus it’s unlikely that DMCV gets officially revealed in 2017.
>There will be a demo for the game sometime before release.
>Game has been in development for 2 years as of today. When it will release it will have been in development for 3 years at least. That is actually the highest time a DMC game has been in full production for. Pre-production started as early as 2015 around the time that DMC4SE finished releasing.
>There have been no development hiccups and as stated, the development has in fact been progressing smoothly.
>There is some form of Playstation exclusivity involved. Sony is paying for some of the funding for the game but the extent of it is not known. Could be completely PS4 exclusive, console exclusive or timed exclusive. If the game is announced publicly then it will be at a Sony event, which is why many people thought that it was going to be at PSX.
>Trailer has been ready for a while now. The initial trailer is 1 minute 50 seconds long (they may add new cuts to trailer to make an extended version since some time has passed from when it was made). It is mostly focused on story, characters and cutscenes.
>A city like setting is shown in the trailer not that different from Fortuna city in DMC4.
>The overall game is supposed to be “ambitious” for a DMC title with a broader appeal.
>Longest cutscene runtime of any DMC game yet.
8315e1 No.13869572
If they do make a new DMC it will either have Bamham or Souls combat. I seriously doubt anything even remotely stylish is possible by modern Capcom.
debbb3 No.13869578
DEVELOPMENT TEAM
>Itsuno’s team that worked on previous DMC games and Dragon’s Dogma is working on DMCV.
>Yuji Shimomura is returning as the cutscene director for DMCV. He worked on DMC3, DMC4 and Bayonetta cutscenes.
>Rueben Langdon is reprising his role as Dante.
>Johnny Young Bosch is reprising his role as Nero.
>Dan Southworth is reprising his role as Vergil.
>No word on the actresses who played Trish and Lady if they will be returning,
>Onyay Pheori is helping with the soundtrack (she did the song for DMC4SE’s launch trailer).
CHARACTERS AND STORY (POTENTIALLY BIG SPOILERS!)
>DMCV picks up the story after DMC4.
>More than one playable character in the game, Dante is for sure playable and Nero is possibly playable as well.
>Up to 3 playable characters have been suggested for now.
>This is the most serious Dante has been (a "new side" of Dante), of course not counting DMC2.
>Dante still plays with his enemies and has his usual over the top flair but this game is going to be more personal for him.
>A third character is expected to be playable as well. Said to be “very powerful.”
>May or may not be brand new to the series.
>No word on whether Vergil is playable or not, he will be returning although specifics on how he is returning from his death in DMC1 are unknown.
>Trish has a prominent role to play in DMCV but no word on whether she is playable or not.
>There will be a sequence where Nero and Vergil have a confrontation, confirming their relationship (Nero is in fact Vergil’s son as stated in the DMC3142 artbook).
>Characters switch during key story points in the game.The “Prince of Darkness” is featured as the main antagonist of the story. (Prince of Darkness title normally refers to Mundus so it might indicate his return but that title may have transferred to another character)
>DMCV might be the end of the “sons of Sparda” storyline.
debbb3 No.13869580
GAME PLAY/SYSTEMS
>Hard lock on is standard.
>Console is targeted for 60 frames per second like the previous DMC games.
>Level design is more open than previous DMC games but not going into Souls or open world territory of level design.
>Movement outside of combat has been streamlined to match the open nature of the game.
>The structure is more open to make the experience more "smooth." Immersion is important to the team with this game.
>Level design and exploration is more similar to Bayonetta with action set pieces thrown in there but without the QTEs.
>QTEs in general do not exist in DMCV thus far.
>There is NO Stamina bar.
>This is not a Musou game but there will be encounters where you are facing more enemies than you are used to in a DMC game.
>There is some online integration but definitely no multiplayer PvP.
>Dodge system is reworked and dodging in general is supposed to be a lot smoother than before (get ready to hear the word “smooth” a lot when related to DMCV).
>Camera pulls back during big fights. The devs are really proud of the new, more dynamic camera system.
>Animations are being improved to be less stiff. Big emphasis on cloth physics (maybe Dante’s sword might not clip through his jacket now!).
>Battles are beautifully animated and smooth.
>Mission and Ranking system similar to previous DMC games and Bayonetta.
>There will definitely be mission/chapter selects.
>Bosses being ramped up dramatically in DMCV.
>One of the boss fights moves between multiple areas of the game.
>Style system is in for Dante - Enemies will react a bit differently to each style.
>Style system has been streamlined to be smoother to use for the players (speculated that the style system might be tuned/reworked to make it easier to get into than in DMC4).
>Certain styles will have advantages on certain enemies similar to DmC/DMC3 (you can use a single style on any enemy just fine).
>More environment interactivity than any previous DMC game. This is supposed to compliment the combat system, not detract from it.
>There is some form of dynamic environment destruction/transformation in play but not on the scale of DmC thus far.
>While this is not an open world game, some inspirations have been taken from Dragon’s Dogma
debbb3 No.13869595
>>13869572
That would be a huge "fuck you" but you're probably right.
fe19fd No.13869605
>>13869572
That all depends on how they're treating Itsuno.
c9e260 No.13869634
3ce84a No.13869734
I don't know if I can handle this. So many games that I have loved have been raped, whored out, and casualized that I'm tired of it all. We've long reached a point where instead of wishing for sequels we now wish for a game or series to have an dignified death (or atleast just a death) rather than to be shamelessly kept alive to be abused. On the other hand I really want to root for this game because if it really is a proper DMC game the salt of its success over Donte will be unimaginable and will rival the likes of the Boston Salt Party.
2a3665 No.13869779
>>13869578
If it's Itsuno and his team from DMC and DD, then I'm sure it won't be absolute shit.
4bb794 No.13869815
>>13869522
>>13869567
>>13869578
>>13869580
>longest cutscene runtime of any DMC game yet
I'm somewhat scared of this, but I hope that they're fun cutscenes like DMC3.
>A third character is expected to be playable as well. Said to be “very powerful.”
I believe an earlier leak said that the third playable character is Vergil.
>No word on whether Vergil is playable or not, he will be returning although specifics on how he is returning from his death in DMC1 are unknown.
Vergil "died" the same way he disappeared after the first two times you fight him in DMC1, it's not unreasonable to believe that he just disappeared after the final fight too.
>DMCV might be the end of the “sons of Sparda” storyline.
Was there EVER really a storyline? DMC never focused on an overarching story.
>The “Prince of Darkness” is featured as the main antagonist of the story. (Prince of Darkness title normally refers to Mundus so it might indicate his return but that title may have transferred to another character)
I think that might be Mundus' son so the battle between Mundus and Sparda goes full-circle with their children.
>This is not a Musou game but there will be encounters where you are facing more enemies than you are used to in a DMC game
Is this guy not counting "Legendary Dark Knight" mode from DMC4?
>Certain styles will have advantages on certain enemies similar to DmC/DMC3 (you can use a single style on any enemy just fine).
>styles
>DmC
>Level design is more open than previous DMC games but not going into Souls or open world territory of level design.
I hope the levels are more interconnected like DMC1/DMC3. I disliked how DMC2 and DMC4 were mostly linear.
Overall, I feel somewhat hopeful of these rumors, but since it's modern-day Crapcom we are talking about, I have no doubt they will try to fuck it up. I don't really mind the PS exclusivity as long as it's a great game. Everyone should prepare for the DmC shilling how "It was always good, you entitled shitlords!"
623a4f No.13869867
>>13869567
>“ambitious” for a DMC title with a broader appeal
It's ogre
f81f0b No.13869893
>>13869867
Vergil will come back, but he'll be black.
1aecba No.13869921
>Resetera
Its fucking nothing
c3991f No.13870471
>>13869815
The only good things from DmC are the practice room Ricoshot and Inverse Rainstorm, the rest is pretty meh/trashy.
c3991f No.13870483
>>13870471
fucking phone, didn't want that picture
6f7396 No.13870836
>>13870483
nice picture :^)
fd9f55 No.13870875
File: 189baae29618a1e⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 649.78 KB, 1196x3298, 598:1649, 189baae29618a1e8aa79102dd1….jpg)
>>13870471
Is this animu okay? I find animu fujos cute.
ae4117 No.13871094
If DMC5 does exist, how would Tam Tam react to this?
d36401 No.13871111
>>13870471
give the source for that pic, i've been looking for some cringefest anime
ab79a0 No.13871179
>>13871094
if we're lucky full on autistic screeching
5bbdce No.13871208
>>13869921
That would normally be the case but if it is the same guy on neogaf who made the MvC predictions and SFV season 2 roster leaks it's 100% accurate
6fcfd1 No.13871211
>>13871094
Autistic screeching, crying that it sold better then his game, calling everyone that didn't buy his game racists/sexist/entitled, cutting himself for attention. That usual faggot shit I imagine.
b778c6 No.13871219
Expected: Donte cell Phone Game
Probably: Donte May Cry 2 - Fuck you edition
Hopeful: DMC5 with the staff from 4
CURAZEE: In a microsoft hate filled rage, Kamiya teams up with CAPCOM for DMC5
Whatever happens, at least it's not another monster hunter or street fighter game; because honestly, what else does Capcom make these days?
ff7381 No.13871273
>>13871219
DMC4 Pachinko, which turned out to be the result of the original DMC5 rumours when the mocap voiceactor staff were found to have been doing new work for capcom, was already released a long time ago. This 'leak' is fucking-nothing.jpg
But more importantly, why is everyone so obsessed with Kamiya 'QTE' Hideki anyway? You wanna play resident evil with swords again or you just want another of platinum's barely above average cut and paste action games.
7d2b66 No.13871472
>>13871111
>not knowing what oreimo is
you sad motherfucker
be0865 No.13871726
>DMC Souls
That would be perfect tbh
41bbac No.13871733
>>13871726
Isn't it basically what Nioh is?
ab79a0 No.13871736
>>13871726
>DMC Souls
no
Souls is not cuhrayzee
222759 No.13871743
>>13871733
No idea, can't play that without mouse.
>>13871736
Soulslikes is pinnacle of video games. Cuhrayzee mus embrace it and move forward.
d8c0e6 No.13871787
>>13871726
What does that even mean?
be0865 No.13871799
>>13871787
Well imagine if you couldn't juggle mobs or spawn royal guard endlessly. You had to manage stamina.
And also have stats, equipment, builds all those fancy things.
>>13871733
I watched some nioh footage, and while it is definitely as souls kind of a game, I don't see much cuhrayzee in there. Can you even juggle enemies?
3a5654 No.13872233
Now I'm getting motivated
ab79a0 No.13872295
>>13872233
dubs have come and so have I
3a5654 No.13872296
>>13871799
Its not crazy, you can do some neat looking 'combos' when an enemy runs out of stamina and you go ham on them. But it very much depends on you having the right weapons and moves unlocked for it to look any good, and there is no incentive to be stylish.
Most moves in Nioh are pretty boring looking and its a Dark Souls game, you can't juggle, there is no style bar. Only different to Dark Souls is that some of the moves are faster.
a9b33e No.13872303
>>13871799
Adding stamina management to DMC seems like the worst idea anyone could come up with.
5400d8 No.13872382
>>13872306
>inb4 ID changed
I'm fd9f55
I don't watch much anime. Please inform as to how I'm new for not being aware the quality of this particular piece of weebshit.
1aecba No.13872404
>>13872382
Its fucking garbage
Go masturbate to the incest doujins of it
8294a2 No.13872457
>>13871799
>Can you even juggle enemies?
Yes, but not as well as you could before a patch.
98c896 No.13872503
>>13869572
maybe it'll get the God of War treatment :)
39f98b No.13872510
If you buy DMC5 after everything that has happened you are truly cancer killing video games.
3fee1d No.13872529
>PS4 exclusive
thank goodness. DMC was at its best targeting playstation.
3fee1d No.13872533
>>13872510
>not supporting japanese devs
cancer killing the industry etc etc
41bbac No.13872537
>>13872529
I don't think you realize you are implying DMC2 to be the best DMC.
3a5654 No.13872540
>>13872510
>Implying buying a real DMC5 wouldn't be the right choice
>Insinuating that a real DMC5 being a success wouldn't make gamejournos fume at the mouth for months
39f98b No.13872572
>>13872533
>>13872540
As expected of brainless cattle.
3fee1d No.13872575
>>13872537
>believes in absolutes
>doesn't understand that poor direction happens
>doesn't understand that the director of dmc2 went on to make the best dmc game
>will parade dmc 2 around like its some great counter point
this is gettin' retarded
079c39 No.13872616
>>13869734
I don't know why would they do this with DMC.
DMC 4 had the option to play on easy mode with auto combos, how much easier can you make it?
8315e1 No.13872633
>>13872616
Easiness is just the excuse. What they really want is controlling influence in any way possible. They want DMC to lose its identity to the point that, when people think of DMC, they don't dare think of the originals or anything other than AAA western gaming.
079c39 No.13872658
>>13872633
They tried that once, and failed miserably, do you think they are going for a western approach again?
8315e1 No.13872668
>>13872658
They won't stop until they either control it or kill it.
454628 No.13872817
Convergent evolution. Capcom has devolved to such a state, that they are going to independently reinvent DmC.
3a5654 No.13872828
>>13872658
DMC is very western influenced already and has always been.
That said, its nonsense to say they want to further ruin DMC.
They already lost money and were mocked to shit, the genius that came up with remaking DMC and outsourcing it to a shitty western dev has been fired.
They only care about making money, and they lost a good bit of it. Fan response told them they could make a lot of money and maybe smooth out their failure by making a real DMC.
We'll see if this is what they did when gameplay videos come out.
ecca86 No.13872984
>>13869578
>This is the most serious Dante has been (a "new side" of Dante), of course not counting DMC2.
>Dante still plays with his enemies and has his usual over the top flair but this game is going to be more personal for him.
Why are they so obsessed with changing Dante?
>DMC1: Serious but still cheesy
>DMC2: Full serious
>DMC3: Full cheesy, everyone loves the character
>DMC4: Full cheesy, everyone loves the character
>DmC: No Dante here, just FUCK YOU
>DMC5: Alright we're not going to take the character in the direction the fans want because reasons
Just stick to cheesy Dante you morons
ae4117 No.13873184
>>13872510
>tfw shills have to resort calling fans haters for not liking their shit game
They couldn't keep up the white hair argument or that Classic was gay so much, they now downgraded to just calling fans haters.
Also
https://archive.is/LWJA4
Its funny that Tam Tam wanted to make Donte gay in a pity attempt to expose the community as homophobic, only to gay bash Classic Dante at GDC.
1aecba No.13873223
4bb794 No.13873261
>>13873032
sauce pls
>>13873184
I still don't understand why game journos decided to defend DmC, it doesn't have any of that "stronk independent womyn" shit nor does it have a good story. It's a game that was hated the day it was announced, so defending it, even three years after it's initial release is a complete mystery to me.
1aecba No.13873274
>>13873261
>I still don't understand why game journos decided to defend DmC
Ninja Theory has journo friends plus its a western game in post 2007.
63adb6 No.13873447
>>13871726
no it wouldnt
souls game are good but are too slow paced for a DMC game
05c172 No.13873479
>>13873286
To be fair, -to be fair-, that model does look better than this one; It's still garbage but they did fix it.
1aecba No.13873495
>>13873479
>Have a broken limb
>Put a band aid over it
>There we go, completely fixed
6f7396 No.13873552
>>13871726
>>13871799
>>13871743
are you retarded? get off muh board
6db423 No.13873619
>>13872984
Blame the current age. No one (read: No fun allowed shitters) wants cheese or obviously silly or cliche shit for the sake of it being cheesy anymore. Why do you think everyone is going for that seriously gritty bullshit in the past 12~ years? It's only making a recent resurgence from what I've seen.
8315e1 No.13873631
>>13873619
The problem isn't that they want seriousness over silliness, it's that their preferred flavor of silliness is the obnoxious kind that doesn't sit well with DMC so they opt towards seriousness with a dash of post-ironic cynicism.
6f7396 No.13873654
>>13873184
>Dante is The Clash rather than X-Japan
Tameem is a fucking idiot.
6f7396 No.13873683
>>13873631
That's true, corporate hates when people have fun. With that said I personally trust the fucking Ninja Turtles Leaker over this guy.
3a5654 No.13873710
>>13873619
I think what they're doing rather sensible.
This is going to be about Vergil being Nero's father, Dante rescuing his brother who he thought was dead. (Possibly from hell?)
Makes sense in context of the story they're going for, for Dante to show that he can be serious at key moments, similar to the last two cutscenes in DMC3.
Unless they're doing also a thing where Dante becomes a father-like figure to Nero, that has large potential to actually suck.
05c172 No.13873881
>>13873495
It's better than nothing!
2c5453 No.13874149
That thread is a fucking mess.
Geoff Keighley popped in posted just Pic related and left and everyone fliped a shit.
One Leaker called out another leaker then got banned, and then said on twitter that his esports manager was using his account.
6823ef No.13874219
>>13872510
>Make a bad game
>Don't buy it
>Make a good game
>Still don't buy it because bad game happened
So the goal is to just not buy video games then?
d44f38 No.13874233
>>13874219
The goal is to support those who haven't sold you out before, and to not come crawling back to former abusers because they offer you a little treat so they can abuse you again later.
2c5453 No.13874263
>>13874233
>Sold you out
>abusers
Where talking about video games anon.
You Buy good games, and you don't buy shit game, or you just be a pirate and buy nothing.
This isn't complex.
d44f38 No.13874283
>>13874263
Learn English before you participate in discussions.
2c5453 No.13874300
>>13874283
How about you shut up.
54bc77 No.13874304
>>13874233
this
Devil May Cry is the best game I've ever had the joy of experienceing and it's one of my most played games on Steam but I can't trust Capcom after all the shit they've pulled.
It's fuckflings like this >>13874263 and >>13872533 that keep giving them a chance instead of just letting them die.
The last DMC game was came about 9 freaking years ago, if Capcom really respected it's fans it would have released something else during that period. And now they want us to wait ANOTHER FUCKING YEAR!
Fuck them. They're only doing this shit now because MVCI and DmC sold like cold turd and the yakuza want their money back.
Devil May Cry is dead, it's done for and the last thing we'll ever get is Dantes good-bye to Nero (which is tragic now that I think about it).
I bet most niggers in this thread haven't even properly played DMC and are just weebsters with <20 hours in DMC4 on their steam account.
Fuck off with your Souls, fuck off with your bad taste and fuck you Capcom.
2c5453 No.13874448
>>13874304
I only care about Itsuno's work, I believe in the man. He hasn't made a bad game aside from DMC2 which wasn't really his fault since he only started directing late in development.
DMC5 didn't happen sooner because Itsuno was making Dragons dogma. Keiji Inafune being the genius he is decided since nothing was happening with DMC at the moment it would be a great idea to make a western reboot, because the Bionic Commando reboot sure was a huge success. He somehow got everyone at Capcom to agree with him and then promptly left Capcom to go waste Kickstarter money. Ninja theory was making a buzz at this time so Capcom got them to do it.
Everything about DmC makes perfect scene when you think about it coming form a bunch of executives.
>"Western" "Broader audience" "Edgier" "Streamlined" "Cinematic"
It just so happen that all of those things made for a shit action game.
None of this was Itsuno's fault, and I haven't seen any proof that he can't still make a quality game. DMC 5 will be as good as Capcom lets him make it.
bfbf69 No.13874545
>>13872233
>>13872322
>233
>322
This must mean something.
39cdf9 No.13874600
>>13869580
>Hard lock on
… that's not auto-lock right?
2c5453 No.13874609
>>13874304
>I bet most niggers in this thread haven't even properly played DMC and are just weebsters with <20 hours in DMC4 on their steam account.
also if you want to have a dick measuring contest be my guest.
I'v beaten every DMC game on DMD at least twice,Those hours don't include when I got all S ranks on 360 as well.
2c5453 No.13874613
>>13874600
Yes, hard lock on is the normal lock on from the past games.
39cdf9 No.13874653
>>13874613
Good, for a moment there I thought they were trying to pull the auto-lock system again.
Guess we'll have to see how much Capcom censors it and cuts it up.
2c5453 No.13874683
>>13874653
I looked through the thread and there are claims it's still being shown at PSX or even The Game awards. Geoff Keighley made a post and left >>13874149 so that's also suspicions.
If this all ends up being bullshit, I'm at least impressed.
2c5453 No.13875427
>>13875406
As foretold in the book of our Savior Sparda.
>From the depth of NT, DmC will come into being. That it may absorb all negative cinematic energy form the gaming ether. So that DMC5 may be born pure and untainted.
< Showtime 10:13
2d2569 No.13875463
>>13875439
I think Aqua team is stoner garbage but that one scene still makes me laugh for a solid minute.
9982aa No.13875668
>The overall game is supposed to be “ambitious” for a DMC title with a broader appeal.
>Longest cutscene runtime of any DMC game yet.
>broader appeal
Uh oh…
2c5453 No.13875709
>>13875668
>Longest cutscene runtime of any DMC game yet.
Well it's the same cutscene director as DMC3 and 4 so i'm not worried in that aspect.
11c9f5 No.13875882
>>13875668
>>13875709
i donno why but after reading this the second time im getting the feeling there will be QTEs
2c5453 No.13876041
>>13875882
What about the part where it says there are no QTEs
>Level design and exploration is more similar to Bayonetta with action set pieces thrown in there but without the QTEs.
>QTEs in general do not exist in DMCV thus far.
If even DmC had no QTE's theres no way they would put them in.
99b27b No.13876373
>>13871726
Those two are complete opposites of each other
3da881 No.13879317
>>13876041
>If even DmC had no QTE's theres no way they would put them in.
DMC actually does have QTEs they're just done more organically and never have any control popups. For example timing Nero's buster vs certain enemies & bosses can lead to instances where you need to mash. Instead of having the button come up on screen, pulsating and flashing wildly, the player just understands that they should be mashing this button because Nero looks like he's attempting to forcefully power through with his arm and the player already knows what button controls his arm.
When fighting the plant boss, if you grab her as Nero at the right moment you actually have to press the Red Queen revving button to shred and burn up her insides. This is never explained in any nuGame QTE fashion but, at its core, it's a God Of War-tier QTE mash. I'm quite fine with more of that. As long as its presented organically in the game world, not overdone and actually requires some GIT GUD. Of course game journos probably don't even know any of this exists.
0be0c4 No.13880573
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13879317
I'm not sure I'd call them QTEs per se, seeing as they're completely optional and almost function as rewards for players that experiment. It's definitely what they were inspired by though and I can appreciate that they tried to evolve the idea into something better.
2c5453 No.13880596
>>13879317
>>13879317
I really don't consider Nero's Buster to be a QTE. It may have been inspired by God of war but it's execution far surpasses it.
QTE's are a Cutscene that wants the player to press or mash a button. In DMC4 the player Chooses when where if and how they use the Buster, and they are still in control of DT and Charge shots. DMC4 will never tell the player to use the buster, the only time when it's 100% necessary is at the very end of the game against the false savior
There are also advantages to mashing or not mashing certain buster moves. Catching Credo's Spear is not a QTE.
a89bc7 No.13881712
>>13879317
This guy gets it. That's how I only dream of making any remotely cinematic shit. Make the player actually capable of making it happen with advanced physics, practiced skill and mechanics while not self inflicting an impossible work load programming.
2d2569 No.13881736
>>13880596
>He likes Gayonetta 2 and MGR's QTE
>not Jet grind radio
What a faggot.
b4f038 No.13882080
>>13871472
>knowing Oreimo
>a good thing
Good lord, this place has gotten worse.
2c5453 No.13883123
Also Trish's voice actress Retweeted some things on the rumors.
and Johnny Yong Bosch Tweeted This now Tin foil hat wearers are saying the 5:05 stands for Son of Sparda. Which is the user name of the person who made the leak.
ae4117 No.13883374
>>13882407
>>13883123
>mfw their denial is too easy to read
2c5453 No.13885906
>3rd pic is from his agent.
God Damn it Dan.
2c5453 No.13885909
>>13885906
He's the one who started all this shit in the first place.