/v/ - Video Games

>>13843472

this random anon demands that you shouldnt cuck yourself by exposing your waifu to random chubby autists on the internet

sup butterscotch cracker ass lil niggas who else finna be lit up rn?

>>13843623

Forgot about him, if they do a second set of guest charactersafter they give away legacy characters for free that should've been in the game already Kazuma and Akira Yuki need to make it in

reposting from the previous thread because this is either promising or a catastrophe in the making

New Earth Romancer video. Apparently they're starting the crowdfunding on Fig, and man, I do not know what to make of it. The gameplay (vid related) looks pretty cool. It's different from Smash and that game's countless imitators to the point it actually does look like a hybrid game, but some of the other stuff is VERY dicey.

>all characters have a dedicated projectile button with several different projectiles that share a resource

>dashes and air actions are almost universally projectile invincible

>damage is percent-based and lowers slowly over time to a "damage floor"

>>hitting an opponent with a melee attack will instantly restore your damage to the damage floor

>>attacks increase both "floating damage" and the damage floor

>all characters have two styles which affect your projectiles, controls, normals, special moves, etc. (the edgy fox has Falco's dair in one stance and Fox's in the other)

>>you can switch between them mid-fight and you can choose how much projectile energy you have for each when selecting your character

Your mileage may vary, but I think it looks promising. Then you get to the other stuff (https://www.fig.co/campaigns/earth-romancer?r=backstage).

>"Think of it as early access to pledge."

>Fig

>some weird backstage bullshit on the INTERNET even though the game is apparently taking money now?

>fixed funding, meaning they need to make $200,000 or they won't get any money, but there's apparently another wave of crowdfunding????

Then there are the secondary character designs they flashed at the end of another video, which vary wildly in quality and art style. I'll post those in a moment.

So apparently The Last Blade 2 just came out on steam. I remember emulating this on mame, was pretty fun.

>>13844011

Is it a ROM w/an emulator like DotEmu's Nebula?

>>13844102

It's a port of the PS4 version. They improved the netcode but it still is delay based and requires <100 ping to be even close to playable. Fightcade will have better netcode but neogeo games don't have the best input readers on FBA in my experience, which makes things feel a bit less crisp than they should. Overall, It's better than the Garou release that's on steam but still basically only buy this to show support tier.

>>13844102

It's a port of the PS4/Vita version with Samurai Shodown V Special PS4/Vita's netcode

re: CvS2 EO

>Just because games like KOFXI also are on PSN doesn't mean they are the standard platform. Isn't the dreamcast version easily emulated and on Demul even has online?

You forgot to say "standard HOME platform." Big difference. KoFXI was a home PS2 release so it's what people got if they wanted to play the game with people from their homes. CvS2 MF vanilla was on DC first but didn't have online in the west (in Japan it did); XBL EO did. It's the best option Americans had to play another living person whenever they felt like so it's definitely the definitive build as far as the real market is concerned. Besides, the DC was DoA and everyone playing CvS2 at that point in time was burning it. Meanwhile EO enjoyed more than good enough popularity over here.

The PS2 did get Millionaire Fighting vanilla, maybe with online too, but Xbox Live was huuuuuge and EO was on that. I play both. CvS2 is CvS2 is CvS2; there are changes besides RCs being taken out (as the webms make obvious), even really nuanced stuff like cr. jab > strong being a more common link amongst the cast than it was in MaF. RCs being taken out wasn't as big of a deal as people STILL make it out to be, so what if it made certain characters seem more viable in a game that the west overall still doesn't know for shit to this day. Whining about RCs is tantamount to those Smash kids who pissed and moaned about every Smash after Melee not having wavedashing. It's menial. K-groove is the best groove in CvS2 MaF by far and doesn't even have rolls. If anything it made A groove even more busted and charge even more braindead.

tl;dr everyone who bitches about EO doesn't know jack shit about what EO actually changed other than muh RCs

>bringing up Demul

yeah and it's godlike and has support for every early aught fighting game that isn't on FBA, but people pretend it doesn't exist because FGC topics are always overrun by stream monstering posers.

like demul is GODLIKE and has damn good netplay despite that one occasion that made me a pariah in all of planet Earth to this day let alone Fucking 4chan. me and CWheezy played a solid 5 matches roughly and the first two games were completely solid until people learned what desyncs really are. This was from opposite sides of the continental US when I was still on gatdamn high speed DSL, too. It's DAMN GOOD netplay. Got every version of GGXX, MvC2/CvS2, KoFXI, muh fuckin POWER STONE if people wanted to hop on that. It's good shit!

FREE RAD

>>13844258

free 8ch

>>13844381

I was thinking the same thing!

>>13844443

>weebfaggot gets a sobering glimpse of Japan

This is delicious.

I realize the animations in NRS games are bad because they really don't want to use anything that isn't a predefined animation rig, but what the fuck is with their facial animations?

Also this is more /co/ than /fgg/ but I'm really sick of this "Batman is hated by everyone of the batfamily" story everyone keeps imploying past arkham. I don't know why I even pirated this game, the singleplayer is still shit and MK9 was the best of the NRS games.

>>13844577

>Predefined animation rig

Not very knowledgeable about CG and animation, could you clarify?

>>13844797

I assume they mean some kind of script that dictates model movements rather than the 3D artists manually setting animations a frame at a time

>>13844797

I can't really explain it because I'm not knowledgeable either, but it seems to me like it's kind of like having a marrionette model that you can move various joints and limbs at instead of like what the other anon has said where the artists move them.

You can see it some crouching animations where they can outright extend their legs without moving any other parts of their body. It's like fucking toribash without physics or something.

>>13844835

>that Kitana low in MKX

There's a youtube video going into detail about what's wrong with the game's animations and showcases one of the worst offenders.

>>13844847

>>13844849

But what about the facial animations? Are they also using some sort of script for it or were they using mocap and the actors were just awful?

Also can I get a link to that video? Sounds interesting.

>>13844864

NRS has always had problems with faces, particularly for women, I remember in the PS2 games female characters always had manfaces.

>>13844866

My mistake, first he talks about everything about the animations and has an entire video dedicated to Erron Black.

>>13844835

I think what you're describing is the reuse of animation skeletons for the 3D models. Instead of using a unique skeletons for each character (because there's no way color-coded ninja #229 and Ferra/Tor move the same way, and there's no way a gunslinger like Erron Black would have an uppercut exactly like, say, Kotal Khan), NRS appears to have made a base rig for the core characters, then simply tweaked it slightly for larger or weirder characters.

The characters in MKX don't deform during their animations to the same extent as something like GGXrd, so the lack of unique elements in each skeleton can be partially disguised by having basic, unexciting animations which don't ask too much of the animation team. In 2D animation, you'd be able to use smear frames to increase fluidity, but 3D animation is much less forgiving unless you're using some extremely stylized shaders.

I haven't paid attention to the DLC, so I couldn't tell you if Alien or Predator have unique animation skeletons, but I doubt it.

>>13844864

I would post the forum cap the other post mentioned, but it's on a different computer. What the poster described was evidence that NRS animations are marionette-based rather than action figure-based (I forget the technical terms); if a character needs to punch, the animation will universally be a weak-ass punch which moves the arm and barely moves the body. Not awful for a jab, but it looks very stupid for heavier moves.

It's not as bad as raw ragdoll animation, but it's pretty bad.

>>13844873

>just because I'm an animation major

*closes tab*

>>13845003

>reddit asterisks

Kill yourself.

>>13845062

I like the variety of movement in Killer Instinct, personally. They gave the one chick with the slowest move speed the farthest and fastest dash. And she's basically Sadako, what's not to love?

>>13845062

>I wonder if there are other fightans with versatile movement like it.

Have you never played anime games?

>>13844955

>>13844793

This IMO was the greatest fighting game ever made. I wish there was a way to play online

>>13845107

I've played Evil Zone.

>>13845113

And that's it? I'm honestly just baffled, since what you're describing is the core gameplay trait of anime fighters/airdashers. Melty Blood in particular is played at least half in the air, and every something simple like Guilty Gear Xrd has characters with weird movement options like teleports, rolls, etc. It affects the combos, too: a bug in the initial game which let one character super jump and still airdash was later codified as a gameplay mechanic; in Xrd, one of the new characters has character-specific IAD loops and can position points on the screen to ricochet between like a pinball on a table.

So, yeah, airdashers are what you're looking for if you like movement.

>>13845318

I'm not nearly as perturbed by bat-top vs. ball-top.

>>13845318

Single stick for sure. Two sticks just seems unnecessary for fighters.

>>13845490

>[muffled sound of smashfags in the distance]

>>13845111

There's:

Dolphin netlay (EO)

Demul netplay (MaF)

Japan release on DC should even work to this day since it's just "plug your console in the phone jack" style online. same goes for Mark of the Millennium PS2, I doubt it was server based. even so there are private servers for old PS2 games meant for the original hardware like MGO Subsistence and RE Outbreak.

CvS2 needs a Steam release badly tho

>>13846779

From experience Dolphin netplay works really REALLY well and GC games emulate just fine on toaster hardware. I played a little Melee with some killers in IRC a while back, runs great and the online is top notch. Demul's is impressive too, coast-to-coast and still playable for 2 out of 5 games (is probably fluid within say, a pan of 4-6 states, same-state is probably near offline quality but idk). and trust me I been begging for sum CvS2 Online official since SF4 days but it's probably a licensing nightmare for the time being given how that contract worked back then.

>>13845062

Real Bout FF Special and 2 are GREAT and have players on FBA.

>>13844577

I see nothing egregious about I2 facial animation. I think NRS has improved in that regard quite a bit.

>>13844873

I understand and agree with most of this but I don't understand his comparison with the SF games as MK has slower frame data, not exactly sure the same principle would apply. Tekken animates the same way but they actually used actual martial artists for mocap which would probably solve the jank for NRS. Some characters are fine though (I can't see the issue with Kung Lao, Sub or Raiden). Reptile's fighting style is just flailing his limbs and it looked great in that regard.

bumpin some more patented SNK jamz fore I make like a baby and head out in a sec

>>13846985

gatdangit didn't mean to post, was tryna figure out how to embed multiple YT links oh well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCpIZ7h7V14

Where can I find really good Garou character tutorials?

How's the online life for Xrd Rev 2 on PC? Will I have trouble finding online fights in the foreseeable future?

>>13848228

http://steamcharts.com/app/520440

>>13848351

Also I should point out that rev 2 is DLC and doesn't show numbers on steamcharts.

>>13848356

>>13848351

That's why I'm hoping somebody who has the game can verify if it's easy or difficult to find games online.

>>13846914

Supergirl, Superman, Cyborg and Wonder woman stand out to me the most as having terrible facial animations. Supergirl in particular looks like she's gotta take a shit in every frame and she's the one who has the most face closeups in the story mode.

>>13848228

from what I've seen Rev1 Steam enjoys an average of 100+ players any given time. couldn't speak for Rev2 but it's a paid expansion for Rev1 anyway; you could always get your hands on Rev1 and see how active that is before you decide if Rev2 is even necessary.

>>13848131

nullDC/training mode.exe

>>13843445

Sadria is a Thai.

>>13848384

Talking shit about other games is not going to make MvC:I good. No matter how hard you try.

Venom was the only good looking character, relatively, of the 3 recently revealed.

And yet, he looks so fucking sterile and generic. MvC:I just feels like prototype gameplay with placeholder models. They look so fucking outsourced its palpable.

His new lvl 3 is a generic command grab too. What a fucking bore.

Marvel is truly a shit series. I hope Capcom does another vs instead.

Tatsunoko vs Capcom was amuch more enjoyable and rich game where the characters had personality. in Marvel they're all bland as fuck.

>>13848365

the playerbase is pretty stable. there are generally 3 or 4 rooms with players during the day and the east coast lobby gets about 20+ people on most nights, with more around the weekend obviously. ranked is still broken but beyond that, finding matches is never too difficult.

>>13848131

there's a motw (((discord))) that has very comprehensive resources

>>13850077

what game are you playing? 3 hours a day is a bit much unless you're planning to be a fulltime tourneyfag

>>13845062

>it's so good it makes me physically ill to play something slow like SF again

Funny you say that because XIV is one of the slowest KOFs widescreen and slower walkspeed. You'll have a blast playing Extra Eiji in 98UMFE since he can walk backwards faster than some characters can run. Also probably you won't like the first games since the jumping and rolling stuf came only in '96.

>>13844137

Well, I don't know about people from USA but in Brazil, SEGA consoles were very popular rereleases of Master System and that new Mega Drive are still one of the top selling consoles in the country so I know a bunch of people that still play MvC2 and CvS2 on their Dreamcasts. As for me, I played the shit of CvS2 in the arcades near home but never really liked the competitive play. SNK characters don't feel like themselves, SNK grooves are "weird" and top tiers were boring. But since the most popular machines were CvS2, MvC2 and KOF2002, I played those three with my friends and the other people there at the arcade.

But I don't know, maybe it might be fun to try Nakoruru and Hibiki again and see if Athena actually pla~

>If anything it made A groove even more busted and charge even more braindead.

>Blanka

Yeah, good luck and have fun. I'll pass.

>Whining about RCs is tantamount to those Smash kids who pissed and moaned about every Smash after Melee not having wavedashing.

Don't know about the WiiU one but Brawl is pretty shit regardles.

>>13844577

> I'm really sick of this "Batman is hated by everyone of the batfamily" story everyone keeps imploying past arkham.

I thought Cass liked Bruce. Damian and Dick too but I have no idea about Rebirth or Injustice2.

>>13846953

>I don't understand his comparison with the SF games as MK has slower frame data, not exactly sure the same principle would apply.

NRS games behave differently in regards to frame data. Positive and negative just means you can't attack but you can block and grab anyway. Combos are done by canceling certain moves and juggling.

>>13850077

As long as you're having fun and notice your mistakes, you'll get better over time. I don't really practice in most fighters unless it's something more technical like Arcana Heart.

>>13850231

>NRS games behave differently in regards to frame data. Positive and negative just means you can't attack but you can block and grab anyway. Combos are done by canceling certain moves and juggling.

I'm not new, this is all old to me. I'm referring to his complaint about MK not having the two key frames for every normal animation like in SF when the fastest (at best) normal in MK is 6f.

>>13850231

>Damian is an edgy fuck and hates bruce for not outedging him

>Dick is most likely dead

>Being DLC red hood doesn't even get actually acknoweldged by anyone because it's all reused lines. The most you get is a passing mention in storymode

>Apparently Alfred is dead, by Victor Zsasz's hands, who is then killed by Damian which causes batman to go apeshit on him. Except it's never mentioned ingame

>>13850440

>he expects to have the entire story in the game.

Better buy those comics, goy.

>>13843672

And a Capcom character made it in despite them having their own fighting game franchise. I'm not sure what your point is.

>>13850466

I read the comics of the first year and thought it was pretty good honestly. Has some memorable moments

>>13850466

I'm retarded enough for caring about a throwaway barely fleshed out story in an NRS game, you think I'm going to bother looking up the comics?

>>13850544

>I don't have access to something like Virtua Fighter, or Third Strike

Unless you literally lack a PC, which I somehow doubt unless you're phoneposting, you have access to 3S.

>>13850544

idk about pokken, but most of the best gg players are japanese salarymen who just play a bit at the arcade everyday after work. lost soul: arguably the best american gg player barely plays at all anymore b/c of work and still destroys everyone in the few tournaments he manages to attend.

there's also tokido who managed to be one of the top players in both sf4 & kof while going to uni. if you're really passionate about improving, just try to optimize your practice into the most effective hour you can.

>>13850621

>I think VF5FS is doable in the new version of that PS3 emulator.

It does work very well and if you're not running a toaster you can get constant 60 FPS no problem, only thing that still needs fixing is that colors are fucked up

>>13850577

>>13850621

Linux + craptop toaster.

Can't afford a new PC yet. Can't risk botching this one in an attempt to set up dual booting.

>>13850606

I already fill that time up with something else, is the thing.

Like, if someone's passionate about something, you can only really have one "thing" that you do. And mine's already taken, with my comic.

I might get back into it, I might optimize my practice time, but I see no point in getting to that skill level. See, everything I normally do, outside of Pokken, inentionally contributes to the comic. Be it reading manga and comics, having discussions online dissecting forms of media, or just relaxing in order to not overdo it and prepare myself for another one to three hour session of working on this week's page.

And I'm just making the best decision I can, given all the factors I have going on.

>tl;dr "I already sink my time into furthering a comic, and the way I am has pokken cut severely into that"

>>13850949

>Linux + craptop toaster.

Fightcade runs on linux just fine and how much of a toaster you have that can't run an almost 20 year old 2D game?

>>13850975

Didn't know that. I'll take a look into it, at some point, then.

>>13843445

>Middle Eastern Girls

why are middle eastern girls displayed blue in some games? That blue skin really turns me off.

>>13851972

That Mushiki looks like crap though.

>>13852002

>blue skin

Maybe the Jappos don’t know the difference between Islam and Hinduism.

>>13852083

It's the name of Kyo's punch DM.

>>13852096

o ty g2know

tbh it makes me sad to get so hype at finding EO-only P groove tech when normally I'm all about them SNK groove Iori run short/hop/jump in/block<->command grab mixups. been theory fighting an S groove team with him/Ryu/maybe Guile but I can't remember if S-groove has RCs. in theory input-wise they should be there and maybe even have better invuln than they have in C/A/N grooves. haven't practiced those in ages, though.

What're the more played games on Fightcade? I'm thinking of downloading it but I just figured I'd see what's popular and if it's hard to find games to play online.

>>1385213

>have list typed out

>realize Fightcade downloads in about 3 seconds and you can just see for yourself

nigga how are you so cheap that you can't afford to download something for free in the amount of time it took you to make this post. why are you so free.

>>13852052

Fuck I love the Mu Shiki. All of his other moves have numbering and stance names, but this one, 'No Style' is just a punch

"Fuck you I don't need the Kusanagi style to cave your face in"

>>13852207

>practices Kenpo

>literally Chinese rooted Bruce Lee inspired BOXING

>implying anyone outside a tournament setting who got hit by this move wouldn't just fuckin DIE

<25 Years Anniversary

<Goes with mobile DLC

While I am a huge fan of the series, this is a very strong suggestion that it will only be downhill from here.

>>13852503

I only cared about this shit because of the costumes. I heard something about MK11 getting announced but Injustice still seems new.

>>13851767

I make post

>>13852162

>KoF 02

Very nice, that's on my backlog. Guess imma download it.

>>13852165

I didn't know if it showed them if it didn't have the roms.

>>13850696

Don't forget they retcon Damian's story in the second game so it makes no sense with what was established in the comic or in the first game.

>>13853327

How so?

That moment when you've put at least 1000 hours into the guilty gear series but never really payed too much attention to the story but you randomly find yourself looking at the wiki during thanksgiving to pass time and then you find out your main who you always thought was a human fighting among gears was a gear the whole time. I dont know how i feel about this, its really weird. It's like I just found out terry bogard is gay.

>>13853426

>and then you find out your main who you always thought was a human fighting among gears was a gear the whole time.

let me guess, you main Sol or Ky?

>>13853426

I think a lot of people who play the fighting games don't keep up with the story

>>13853434

sounds like you don't keep up with your guilty gear lore

>>13853410

The comic establishes that Superman and his regime go to Arkham to purge some criminals. Batman and crew go to stop it. Fighting ensues till Nightwing pisses Damian off till Damian throws an escrima stick at the back of his head. Causing Nightwing to fall over and break his neck. That was the moment Damian was dead to Bruce and he wanted nothing to do with him. Then Injustice 2 has it go as just Damian and Batman confronting Superman, Batman beats Supes, Damian kill Zsazz to show he believes in Superman's cause, then he gets whisked away to the regime.

Buy USFIV or not? It looks like the game has shitload of DLCs isn't there a complete edition? I don't want to support Capcom by any means but because of regional price the game is like $3 here

Also what Arcsystem game is worth buying except Rev? Complete version of Rev(GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- Deluxe + REV2 Deluxe (All DLCs included) All-in-One) is too expensive for me atm. BBCF?

>>13853927

I know they're mostly costumes but if there's a chance I can get everything the game has for cheap I'd rather do that. Are good costumes included? If it doesn't only have like that furry costume pack it's okay

>>13854110

windows overwrites the vfat e200 efi partition with its own shit

the common practice is to install windows at the end of the drive, then mount the same efi partition as /boot/EFI as a grub2 install target

>>13854527

Why should a person go back to buying capcom products when they show they have no intention on maintaining your hypothetical quality or haven't admitted to making any mistakes, businesswise or mechanically?

>>13855020

It's been that way since iWR has become relevant to combos

>>13854539

Know what I fear anon?

Capcom will at some point become desperate and make something that people want. Mega Man Legends 3, an actual Lost Planet 3, a new Darkstalkers or Bionic Commando, Dragon's Dogma 2, or any of the clover studios games.

And regardless of whatever quality that game will be of, faggot normalfags will go MAN OH MAN IT'S LIKE THE 90'S CAPCOM IS BACK BABY.

Why? Because fucking inafune probably gave Capcom way too much credit in that blunder of his.

And then we're in for another billion years of shit from them, fitan or not.

>>13854527

It's like NISA. With the small tiny chance that they don't fuck up for one game, giving them money for it would just go towards destroying other games or fucking over consumers instead going towards more good games. No point in paying for it, they don't learn.

Especially doesn't matter since Arika is continuing the best part of street fighter without capcom anyways.

>>13855020

If you're trying to do it at the end of the combos it's easier in T7 because screws in general leave your opponent further away than bound. Otherwise it's still the same

>>13855033

Well hopefully enough people have learned from SFV and MVCI and, if not, then hopefully DMC5:DmC2 will do the trick.

>>13845062

And i just actually bought the game as i wasn't even aware there was a steam sale going on.

>>13853889

>Also what Arcsystem game is worth buying except Rev? Complete version of Rev(GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- Deluxe + REV2 Deluxe (All DLCs included) All-in-One) is too expensive for me atm. BBCF?

If you're picking up Rev2, you want the GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- (+DLC Characters) + REV 2 All-in-One (does not include optional DLCs) pack, the deluxe includes mostly just stuff you can get by fishing or extra colors, not super important stuff. BBCF is about the same price if you get Jubei, if you're really looking to save money and get an arcsys game people still give a shit about, your only real option is Guilty Gear XX Accent Core + R. The netcode sucks hard and there's no tutorial, but the fighting system is excellent and there's good learning resources online.

>>13855139

That happened to me with a different game, I refunded it and bought it again for the sale price. I'm sure you could too if you wanted to save the money.

>>13855492

I actually pirated it first

>>13855025

>>13855084

It's like the input rules change every time. I do it with f, n, ff+34 four times in a row and then I can't fucking do it at all. Sometimes the slow input works, sometimes it doesn't.

>>13855492

> pack, the deluxe includes mostly just stuff you can get by fishing or extra colors, not super important stuff.

This drops the price to the point that I can buy it actually. By fishing you mean a minigame I think?

The question is to either buy GGRev or BBCF now then, I assume I will go with Rev I always hear people talking about Guilty Gear not Blazblue

>>13855783

You most likely fuck up pressing the last f and 3+4 at the same time

>>13855938

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/181157-the-king-of-fighters-xiv/74217774

>>13856013

So, the key is to do it Sanic fast?

>>13854513

that's not even half of it, and you're assuming it's a new UEFI motherboard (non legacy). Always separate drives, it'll save you corruption considering even ext3/4 has it's quirks. ZFS today is the best FS ever, and it's that selfish too.

>>13856047

Yeah, but there are shortcut buffers. Just go do it in training mode later and read the input history to see what I mean. You'll notice that sometimes you can trigger it without doing the full second input.

>>13856047

do the whole thing like it's a single motion basically. also learn to do button holds, it will make everything easier down the line

>>13856092

>half an HK press

>>13856090

>>13856092

Nope, can't do it.

I don't understand why would snk lie to people that there is mechanic in the game when it literally can not be done.

>>13856243

tks dnopls

tbph, we should have a thread @ >>>/fighters/ for when Twitter bans your acc.

>>13856359

joystick & kb, best combo

>>13854527

Nobody in this thread would ever admit it even if it somehow did.

Is there any hope for someone that can't complete a full set of challenges for any character on USFIV or even SFV? I enjoy both games but feel like I should be able to complete at least one set, Jesus Christ. Plus I can't shake the smash the button I want to hit and always end up countered on whatever game I play.

What's worth getting on the PS4? I had XRD back in the day but I let my friend borrow it and he liked it way more than I did so I let him keep it.

>>13856913

Are you playing on pad or stick? I was a not very good smashfag before I started playing Xrd, and trying to complete even basic motions on a D-pad made me question my life choices. Once I got a stick, it became much easier, even if my innate dislike of certain motions makes them harder than they otherwise would be.

There's always hope if you disavow bad games, anon.

>>13856947

>getting game cucked

Xrd is still good, and you can get a physical version of Rev 2 to bypass the Steam DLC snafu. Otherwise, there's KoF XIV (no longer exclusive). I'm unfamiliar with the console, though, so there may be something I'm missing.

>>13856278

>I don't understand why would snk lie to people that there is mechanic in the game when it literally can not be done.

XIV has a weird keyboard input reader but it's not a lie. Shortcuts just means it's an alternate easier way to do it but you can just do it fast. Also, read the OP >>13843448

>KOF Shortcuts/Sequential Buffering: http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=168.0

Shortcuts makes Elisabeth's Trials in XIII from impossible to just "finger breaker" tier.

>>13855944

>By fishing you mean a minigame I think?

Sort of a minigame, it's just slots for ingame content, most of which is only important if you're into the GG universe as much as you are actually playing the game. You can just use cheat engine and give yourself a bunch of the ingame credits and all you'll be missing out on is the system voices from just going through the gallery and buying what you want.

Personally, I think that Guilty Gear is a much better series than Blazblue. I find BB to mostly be a soulless game with a lot of characters that, gameplay wise, don't have a strong fundamental design at their core and thus have to rely on their in-built gimmicks to have a fighting chance in a game that has much harsher tiers than those of GG. I also don't find much appeal in BB character designs, only really liking a handful of them; most all of the cast of GG I like from a gameplay standpoint and character design standpoint.

>>13856947

>What's worth getting on the PS4?

Most everything is on PC too at this point, SamShoVSp plays better on PS4 than on fightcade but has way worse netcode, GGXrd Rev2 is actually on sale this week for $16 digital so that is probably worth getting, Nitro+ Blasterz is fun, there's a few games that are JP only at the moment like UNIST that are awesome but may be a minor hassle to purchase if you're not already set up with a JP account.

>>13857170

If it played kinda like P4AU I'd play it and have an absolute blast.

>>13857170

If bamco isn't the publisher yeah.

>>13857029

Wsad for movement, numpad 7845 for kicks and punches.

>>13857926

Not a glitch, easter egg, it dissapears in future rounds if you use her IK

>>13858107

I thought it was from her doing a hell fire super or whatever.

Remember when every character in SF had about the same number of alt costumes?

>>13854527

That would be nice, but I still wouldn't trust Capcom. For that they would need to have a decent streak of good games and non-jewish practices.

>>13858154

>>13857926

Xrd has things like this, like how Ky's hair opens up under certain circumstances.

>>13857926

>>13858107

It's hellfire gamma ray, burns away her clothes to get her old design.

>>13857170

I don't know anything about the series so the roster would have to catch my attention.

>>13858445

>difficult to play

>nobody uses them

>nobody knows how to counter them

>performs well at tournament

>everyone tries to play them

>basic bitches only know simple tech, get stomped

>move onto next fotm character

>repeat

>>13858453

Evil Zone had that 20 years ago.

>>13858445

It's the natural tendency of things. If you make a barrier hard to pass, then obviously it must be worth passing.

>>13858453

>Ky's hair

In the arcade version, the song changes to Holy Orders, too.

>>13858445

Because dead simple characters tend to get their time to shine earlier.

It also depends heavily on the balancing philosophy of the dev, in GGXrd Ky and Faust tend to be fairly strong picks as they don't get hit very heavily, staying right about where they are or slowly creeping up in power while other characters get changed more heavily, be it nerfs or buffs. Sometimes even a design that was supposed to be simple can end up complex and difficult to play in practice due to having a lot of weird tech that ended up pushing them to the next level. That's kind of how things ended up with Potemkin in GGXXAC, where he had an unblockable loop that had character specific timing on the whole cast.

>>13858256

>>13858490

Ah thats right, misremembered. Oops

>>13858795

I just wish they didnt use HO3 for that, the intro's way too long for a song that activates mid-match.

Either use HO1/2 or make a HO4.

What do you think about SFxTekken? I remember I played this game when it came out and thought it was stupid, like selling combos, really stupid choices like fucking Steve having a projectile. I also wasn't interested in 2d fighters but I'm trying to get into them now, is it worth giving a try

pls like comment and subscribe. srry for borders, haven't found good freeware for crop/zoom

>>13860107

it's a fun enough game tbh. sadly underrated in my opinion, Asuka is mega fun in that game in ways far different from Tekken and very unconventional from most 2D FG characters. Law's cool too. the Capcom side is literally cookie cutter but tag-in synergy plays a big part and there's magic series combos.

>>13860868

They're booth babes paid by namco.

>>13860970

>They're booth babes paid by namco.

in the end they're all just thots

>>13861005

There were also a bunch of actual players, including a girl team. The booth babes were destroyed by one girl Asuka player.

>>13843445

>Fighting Game General - Middle Eastern Girls

>Sadira

She's Southeast Asian you retarded fuck

>>13861260

>Girls playing fighters? Rarer than unicorns…

skip to 8:20

>>13861925

i wouldn't be so sure since it seems asian and these can be anything

>>13858445

Absolutely nobody wants to pick a high execution character with mediocre or bad payoff, you're going to constantly ask yourself why you bother. High execution also usually means the character's less stable and can be afforded a bit more power because of it, and usually means few people play the char so the matchup is relatively less well known. Pretty sure most games still have a relatively simple and straightforward but top or near top tier character for people who want a more fundamental playstyle.

>>13859002

I've seen that set before. So tense in the end.

btw I've never seen that M.BISON player lose. Who is he and why is he such a god?

>>13862789

what a shame smh tbh fambalam

>>13861687

tbh I should know better. I'm sorry I upset you fam

Kagemaru is a god.

>>13861260

Tekken must have the most girls cause they were plentiful on that stream. Really cute ones too.

>>13864403

>her

No matter how you slice it (in this case magically), If they were born with a dick, and you were born with a dick, then it's fucking gay to fap to

>>13864403

It's biologically female now, so it's probably not gay.

>>13864403

Spiritually you are gay

>>13864403

Did the magics change its genes? Is it xy?

>>13864735

>dilation

>its real

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>13860868

>>13858592

Why don't grills wear clothes that reveal their bare shoulders?

>>13864403

Of all the character gimmicks to make a generic waifu stand out, genderswapping is among the dumbest. Literally nothing noteworthy about this character's backstory exists outside of them having had a penis at some point.

>>13865138

Damn son.

SF4 Ibuki >>>>>>>> SFV Ibuki

>>13865355

what about mark?

>>13864403

>>13864483

>>13864403

>>13864483

>>13864492

>>13864735

Anybody have that webm of the commentator who finds out Bridget is a boy mid-match?

>>13865974

I need this.

>>13865527

>a character in a previous iteration of SF is better than their SFV counterpart

What a revelation anon, truly a one-of-a-kind occurence.

>>13864403

I fucking love her nice choice anon

>>13866716

Jesus fucking Christ. Truly we are blessed to have a game where anyone can be the next Diego.

>CBS logo

Was this broadcast on tv? I'd love to see the whole thing with sound.

>>13866716

What the fuck am i watching?

>>13866716

You know a character is complex when two hands are needed on the buttons to do combos.

>>13866716

Muffled jungle drums playing in the distance.

Meanwhile, EH is writing all these pro-KoF fluff pieces. Also…

I'M NUCLEEAAAAAAAR

>>13866903

>>13866844

>>13866914

Are you retarded

>>13867027

>(1)

>>13867048

>you just entered the thread, therefore I am not a blind retard unable to tell a blatant fake

ok then

>>13855938

combos like these are easily done on a keyboard or a hit box

>>13857029

the layout is from an azerty keyboard

>movement button : arrows

>punches L/M(if available)/F

SF and skullgirls : q/w/e

kof : q/w

arc sys games : a

>kicks L/M/F

SF and skullgirls : asd

kof : a/s

arc sys games : s

>special buttons

blazblue : C -> D , drive button-> Z

arcana heart : homing ->a , fierce ->D , arcana : E

rest of the arc sys games : i can't rememmber tbh

button combinations :

SF's Px3 : R , Kx3 : T

kof's Px2 : E , Kx2 : R

blazblue A+B+C+D : T

rest : i can't rememmber

>>13867626

>>13866947

Why the fuck am I starting to find Nuclear Negro cute?

>>13866716

It feels like this is staged, holy shit that's bad. Is this real?

>>13867935

>>>/gay/

>>13867120

The sales are necessary, my m8. Not so much as direct funding for the game, but to validate the decision making capabilities of the dev team in front of the investors. Shit like this is what keeps Harada in control.

The game has a shit ton of flaws and the content is lacking on many fronts, but the focus is still on gameplay and I'm sure it will stay that way as long as the slightly russiaboo faggot is in charge.

>>13868014

>The sales are necessary, my m8.

But Noctis isn't gonna generate sales. Most Tekken players already bought the season pass like good goys and he'd barely generate any extra sales individually.

Why would final fantasyfags buy a fighting game for one final fantasy character when they have their own fighting game with an entire cast of final fantasy characters? Sure Noctis generates more attention than anyone else because the "what the fuck" aspect of his inclusion but it's not gonna generate into any major sales.

>>13868062

Attention on a non-broken product always generates sales. You're also underestimating the buyfag compulsion of FF fags, specially the more recent ones. Noctis is very popular and this younger and more casual players are very wallet-happy. This will do alright.

I hope they end up delivering some of the older characters, mainly Lei, the others are kind of replaceable.

>>13867095

I disagree

>>13867120

is right. they managed to put in Star Wars characters in soul calibur and look how that IP turned out in its attempt to copy from other games instead of being itself. It will generate sales but it won't garner a long term audience like almost every other guest character in every other fighting game.

I think the big thing that boosted the Tekken 7 sales was SFV just absolutely shitting the bed so hard people migrated to it. But even then is there really any guarantee that the old SF fans are going to stay with tekken if Capcom decides to make a good game?

>>13868131

SC died when they dump they whole roster for a cast of poorly throughout animu cliches. The game was also one of the most Singleplayer-focused fighting games there was and it transitioned poorly to the border-line multiplayer only route the genre has taken. There was a competitive scene to keep it going for a while, but the bulk of the fans wanted their characters and the SP modes.

It is a different situation entirely, Tekken has always been about competition.

>>13867095

there's a weebshit segment of the tekken fanbase that i think western fightanfags, including myself don't necessarily understand.

alisa was the second most popular character at master cup and the last tekken movie was like 90 minutes highschool moe pandering with her and ling. you barely see her played at all in the west. hopefully we get some legacy characters in the next year or two, and considering the way that the game has developed up until console release it might even be likely, but more than anything i just want more stage variety. i really think that the current jack/dragunov/kazumi meta has a lot to do with the lack of specialized stages that benefit other characters.

LOL

>>13870663

Robert , Ryo , kim , classic kyo , not sure but i might add kula too.

>>13870838

>easily the least beginner-friendly genre there is

Those would be good non-gookclick rts and 4x games. We just saw that somebody who hasn't touched a videogame before in their life can beat another playing by buttonmashing, how is that not proof enough?

The fact that he had to be blindfolded and use only one hand is fucking embarrassing though, and not helping my point.

>>13870329

that would be kinda cool, but I said fighting games

>>13872511

tbh would be a good idea since Metal slug XX has the ikari warriors characters

>>13843615

Snk vs capcom vs marvel vs Dc vs sega vs nintendo vs bandai vs Valve vs Bethesda when ?

tbh i'd really like CvS3 to come with a nice roaster , speaking of roaster i cringe when i see both ryu and chun li in the capcom crossover fighting games can't they just replace these 2 with something else ?

>>13872568

Try it: http://mugenguild .com/forum/topics/ikemen-table-contents-please-read-first-175520.0.html

>>13870838

My grandmother watches that show and I've seen it a few times over the years. The challenges are meant to be hard and the fun of the show is watching people fail at them over and over again. Given what I've seen on there this actually isn't that hard. Usually they have them jumping off tall buildings or doing other shit that causes people to quit in fear. Compared to that stuff sitting down to play a video game is nothing.

>>13865974

Better yet, anyone have the recording of Aris fawning over a kawaii Jap trap while commentating TTT2 before being told it was a male?

>>13874386

This?

>>13874386

does he learn it a at some point in the video?

>>13874679

He knew all along.

>>13874767

consoles are generally more convenient for local-play

>>13874767

Take it from a fellow Tekken newfag: play Tekken 6 or Tekken Tag 2. The input lag makes T7 feel like dogshit.

>>13874636

>Blazblue Central Fiction

what are the odds of them making Blazblue Central Fiction Extend?

>>13870663

Maybe you just prefer straightforward characters.

>>13874826

The input lag on PC is not anymore significant than on any other game.

>>13875982

I've only played it on PS4 and it felt terrible, and the PC version has Denuvo, which is even worse. While I know the PC version is faster, Xrd has 1f of input lag due to being made in Unreal 3; given that game is my standard, I'm very critical of input lag in other games.

>>13874767

Tekken 7 on consoles has input lag, while on PC it has none.

>>13876037

PC it is then.

>>13876147

Just make sure you pirate it and play with friends offline.

https://8wayrun.com/threads/soul-calibur-6-discussion.16355/page-222#post-718580

>>13876199

>super meter and universal mechanics like V-skills

Interesting. Frightening, considering SC2 had no meter or fancy mechanics. Don't know what to think until I see it in motion.

That does get me thinking, though - has there ever been an example of a fightan series starting with many mechanics, then removing them in later iterations and being better for it? Many games introduce new mechanics and keep them in future iterations, but has a game ever been bettered by saying "man, that was a horrible idea" and pruning swaths of the mechanics?

>>13876024

considering that the xx series had 4 frames of delay and pretty much every arcade fighter has 2+ (not including display lag which is tangible), your standard isn't in line with the reality of these games.

>>13874767

the only thing ps4 has is the custom soundtrack and arguably a bigger playerbase. the only other reason to pick it up is if you're an aspiring tourneyfag and want to play on the competitive standard

>>13876410

>your standard isn't in line with the reality of these games

True. I've been spoiled by modern technology.

>>13876410

>the xx series had 4 frames of delay

Pure lag on the arcade versions of XX was always 2 frames until they normalized it with console for AC+R.

is the steam version of KoF 02 a decent port or should I stick with Fightcade?

>>13876684

Play on Fightcade, buy the Steam version if you want to give money to SNK.

>>13876692

gothca, I wen't ahead and just got XIII considering that seems to have a much larger playerbase on steam and I don't think that one's on Fightcade.

plus, dat 20/10 pixel art.

>>13876730

>she's a zoner who literally creates no-go zones on the screen

That would be perfect, but I don't think KoF really has hard lockdown characters like that, does it?

>>13876684

The version of KOF02(UM) on steam is a completely different game. It has different balance, more characters, and heavily reworked game systems. I personally enjoy it a lot more, but I have friends I play with locally, since the netcode is delay based and won't work cross country all that well.

>>13876509

Or you're simply clueless about how things actually work and you're just repeating something you read to seem knowledgeable.

SF4 had an input lag of around 4 frames if I recall correctly. SF5 wasn't much better.

Tekken Tag Tournament 2 had 5.7 frames, Tekken 7 on PC with vsync off is around 6.

>>13876189

I get what you're saying, DRM is shit and all, but buying the PS4 version is also supporting a form of DRM (and other shitty business practices that come along with consoles).

If he really wants to play, PC is the best option and the game focus is the online mode.

>>13877343

>Or you're simply clueless about how things actually work and you're just repeating something you read to seem knowledgeable.

That too.

>>13874907

i think i've heard that central fiction won't have an extend version

>>13876684

kof 02 in steam is a port of kof 2002 UM which is a different game from the one in fightcade , if you want it for the online go for fightcade

>>13876410

>the only thing ps4 has is the custom soundtrack

As far as I'm aware there's already a mod for the PC version which basically works like the jukebox mode in the PS4 version

>>13879775

shit, for some reasons ctrl+f didn't found the term in the OP. My bad

>>13880144

>Ouroboros

You imply Sol met Terumi? Or what do you mean by the vid

anons here is a question that i've been thinking about for weeks : is counter picking a thing in FGs ?

>>13881030

Yes, but it doesn't matter as much if the game is well designed or has decent balance.

>>13881030

Depends on the game

>>13880776

Truth be told, I'm not really attached to Beni at all. I just picked him up because KoF14 is the first KoF I've tried to actually learn and I had heard he was one of the better characters for new players, and I liked his play style over Kyo, Iori, or Terry.

>>13877915

Most mods work with legit copies online, even the jukebox-like mod that's actually better than the PS4 version.

>>13881030