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I don't understand why code veronica gets so much praise. It lacks the atmosphere and the characters like fucking Steve make it feel like a bad anime. Maybe it's because it came out on the shillcast.

Meets Claire "let's split up"

Meets ada "don't go on your own, it's my job to protect you"

>>13787332

Yellow fever.

>>13787312

>"Leave us alone, fag"

>Claire Redfield couldn't believe Leon's words. Leon continued,

>You're looking for a shag, right? Just go!"

>Claire knew that Leon and Sherry might get it on while she was absent, but she could not waste any more time

>"I… I just need to pee, I'll be back for your seeds. I promise. Don't start without me"

>She said as she disappeared behind a bush.

Hunnigan > Sheva > (young) Sherry > Ada >>>> Rebecca > Claire > (old) Sherry > Moira >>>> Jill = Ashley

>>13787408

The designers were

>Shinji Mikami

Went on to make a few good action games and some shit ones as of late

>Hideki Kamiya

Used to make games, but focuses on action games

>Tokuro Fujiwara

Some sites list him as designer, while others list him as general producer. But, that doesn't matter as he only worked on 4 games after RE1, those being Tomba! 1 and 2, Extermination and Hungry Ghosts, the last one being made in 2003. So, he's either dead or retired.

>>13787365

<Ada

>badass bitch who always gets shit done

>mysterious motivations

>still finds time to help the "good guys"

<Claire

>overly emotional whiny lesbian

>routinely risks compromising the mission for trivial bullshit

<Jill

>zero personality

>probably autistic

>>13787421

Nothing scares me anymore, but 2 had 10 year old me scared of a zombie apocalypse back in the late 90s.

>>13787451

>badass bitch who always gets shit done

Alice?

>mysterious motivations

So mysterious, Capcom forgot what they were and now she just shows up in the games Leon shows up in, as she has literally no character.

>still finds time to help the "good guys"

To clean up her fuckups (Carla, virus sample collecting)

>overly emotional whiny lesbian

When I think of Claire, I don't think of emotional.That's more Moira or Steve.

>routinely risks compromising the mission for trivial bullshit

What? Ada does that with Leon and Chris does that with 'muh comrades', Claire has never done something like that

>zero personality

>probably autistic

That also accurately describes Leon

>>13787353

I thought her name was actually Ada?

At the very least Ada's name is a password in the original RE's basement facility, suggesting she's tied to the corporation pre RE2 somehow.

>>13787421

I threw the controller in the air and left running when I first heard/saw the regenerator in RE4 back then. That's about it.

>>13787561

that's her agent name.

she is basically honeypotting the researcher guy in 1 to get info for the virus.

>>13787312

>ITT tryhard teens fight to be the most radical

I hate kids

>>13787408

>why is RE1 the only one exactly like RE1

Kill me, I don't want to live alongside zero digits IQs like this

>>13787593

But Anon I really like RE4. I think the control scheme is great in that it retains a lot of the tension created by tank controls even while allowing players to defend themselves with firearms. A big enough tide of shambling ganado can quickly drown the player if ammo, items and the crowd itself are not purposelessly managed.

I also like Resident Evil 5 (with RE4 controls), most complaints regarding 5 can green herb'd by cranking up the difficulty. It is the exact same gameplay loop as RE4 just with somewhat less enjoyable levels.

I even like RE6 although I haven't beat it and I feel I really shouldn't. But Leon's campaign is the closest thing to Raccoon City with RE4 gameplay. RE7 is kind of fun too and is the first RE game since 1 and 2 to have me wandering an immersive environment full of locked doors and wondering what I'll find on the other side.

>>13787321

Where does Code Veronica get "much praise"? I don't think it got praise even when it came out to DC, except for the graphics.

>characters like fucking Steve make it feel like a bad anime

And that's a problem why? Personally I was always looking forward to the next cutscene just to see how fucking hilariously ridiculous it would be.

>>13788273

It's meant to be a dramatic pause.

>>13788367

That's not what commas are used for. They should have used ellipses.

>>13788472

eclipses in the middle of the sentence look ridiculous

>>13788502

Not as ridiculous as using a comma to denote a grammatically irrelevant pause.

>>13788472

>>13788510

That's a Shakespearean comma, it's valid.

>>13788590

I want Shakespeare out of my Resident Evil.

>>13788610

The dialogue of every RE game is nearly Shakespearean in its gravitas and delivery. Embrace it, anon.

>>13788273

Why can't Capcom into music?

>>13789127

YAMERO

>>13787321

What are you talking about?

It has an ok atmosphere, specially in the island prison you start in.

>>13787408

It basically started the genre and in doing so took elements from other genres that later games streamlined in order to achieve mass appeal. In RE1's case the genre it stole from was adventure games to make its house of puzzles. It's similar to how DOOM stole its level design from D&D dungeon designs and later games streamlined FPS into shitty corridor shooters.

>>13787421

The part in Resident Evil 2 where you're going through the hallway of boarded up windows and the arms reach through to grab you. Altenatively the regenerators from RE4.

>>13787353

> he will ignore every other female in favor of best girl

fify

>>13787408

isn't the Evil Within from one of those earlier game designers?

and to be fair, it actually resembles it quite a lot

>>13787421

>Does anyone actually get scared by RE?

I was scared when I was a teenager playing RE2 on the playstation. The presentation was amazing compared to what we had back in the day and soundtrack really helped the whole experience. The zombies weren't scary, but the unknown, what was about to come, the expectation was scary. Never knowing when Mr. X would show up again raised the tension a lot.

>>13787321

>I don't understand why code veronica gets so much praise. It lacks the atmosphere and the characters like fucking Steve make it feel like a bad anise. Maybe it's because it came out on the shillcast.

The presentation was praised a lot back in the day, facial animations and mouths actually moving when characters spoke were impressive. Steve was a product of his time, he's DiCaprio with an edgy teenager personality, but I think he completed his purpose as a support character.

In retrospect, though. Code Veronica touched taboo subjects like incest, transsexualism and maybe dementia, both the villain and the hero have a brother, Clarie/Chris and Alexia/Alfred a not so subtle juxtaposition.

Gameplay wise it was standard Resident Evil and that's good IMO, it was just too hard to evade zombies. If I could change something, that would be the door transitions, it takes too damn long, and you to go back and forth a lot if you don't know in advance what items you need.

>>13790765

>You cannot go wrong with REmake, anon. If you remember only parts of RE1

didn't actually play it through since I didn't own a PS at the time

but the setting is much to be shared with a female, since it spoopy and she will probably hold onto me in the scares

I need help though, I can't for the life of me find a working link, and others are jtag/rgh which I'm not sure are the correct unlock

>>13791062

>Steve was a product of his time, he's DiCaprio with an edgy teenager personality, but I think he completed his purpose as a support character.

He was fucking absolute unredeemable garbage.

>>13790765

>Mikami produced Resident Evil 1/REmake and The Evil Within 1. Dude's pretty good at his craft.

Isn't evil within suppose to be shit? I remember it getting shat on a lot when it came out.

>>13791734

TEW1 was alright. Not RE4-tier classic but better at it than any of the other clones.

>>13792226

Just emulate it on a Wii

>>13792310

actually I could get the gamecube version for emulation, but would rather get the windows release if I'm playing on the PC anyway,

but this was for another reason >>13790654

>>13792329

Just buy it man. It's $20 at most and usually $10 on a sale. And for $30, you can get 0 with it

>>13791734

>>13791884

the first evil within was pretty badly received, but I blame it on false people expectations of the game,

it really did resemble a lot early RE titles, featuring tank controls, stress induced action pieces and scarce resource management

it was pretty hard and pretty damn long, which I think didn't help with most casuals people, who didn't stick with it

pretty there are some pretty damn unique points to the game, for one the story is pretty damn good, and not blown over your face, so you have to look about and still there is a lot of mystery to it, some stuff only got covered over the dlc and now the second game

second thing, level design is actually pretty good, the game only gives you enough resource to get by but not too much to get comfortable, so you're always in some level of stress (with + tank controls), aka silent hill/resident evil style

also on the design side of things, everything plays out in a sort virtual psychic realm, that has no bounds as reality, so they make use of some pretty good level morphing that really plays with your head

likewise, a lot of enemies and bosses come from deep within the characters psych, aka silent hill again, not so scary in terms but indeed pretty horrific aborrations

>>13792394

>the story is pretty damn good

lolwut

It was all a dream and literally none of the characters acts rationally or in keeping with the goals/abilities.

Rest of the game was good but the actual plot felt like something that was patched in at the last minute. The reality-shifting stuff is just a plot device to abruptly transition you like RE4 did between chapters.

>tank controls

The game doesn't have these.

>>13792465

>lolwut

didn't you even get what the story is about?

>The game doesn't have these.

3 seconds run, slow ass walking

shit cover and stealth, bitch ass good for nothing melee

and otherwise having to upgrade everything to make it somewhat useful

>>13792548

>didn't you even get what the story is about?

It's about Ruvik trying to get the kid and mind meld with him, in a world where he has magic powers to alter the environment at will and could effortlessly do so at any point. Kidman wants to kill the kid to prevent this and despite being with the kid alone for huge portions of the game doesn't do so and instead waits for Sebastion to be around in order to convince him to go along with it (despite the fact that she's not-Ada working for not-Umbrella and doesn't give a shit about them). Ruvik has no reason not to kill everyone but the kid immediately or at least just world-transfer them to a cell somewhere where they can't interfere, but doesn't do this because video game reasons. The whole game starts in Ruvik's mind and ends in Ruvik's mind, the kid and everything else didn't actually happen but also did because it's a clusterfuck that is inconsistent.

>3 seconds run, slow ass walking

>shit cover and stealth, bitch ass good for nothing melee

>and otherwise having to upgrade everything to make it somewhat useful

These aren't tank controls. Tank controls are when you can't strafe, you can only turn and go forward-back. Like how a tank move.

Also the stealth was OP and basic weapons were OP as fuck, you suck pretty hard if you can't stealth through half the shit in the game. The game is actually excellent at letting you trick the AI into traps, very useful on Akuma.

>>13791099

>playing horror vidya with a girl

That ruins the whole horror of the game you fucking faggot.

>>13792602

>in a world where he has magic powers to alter the environment at will and could effortlessly do so at any point

the STEM is basicaly the Matrix meld with brain cells, a virtual environment, only the virtual is not done by programming but dreams or nightmares

one person with proper capabilities needs to be at the center of it to be able to connect everyone else, in this case it is possibly Ruvik, and at some point he describes being taken away layer by layer, until only a brain is left and that is why he needs Leslie to get out, Leslie supposedly being one of the tests subjects at the insane hospital

Ruvik gets control is able to navigate the dream world and everything, but he doesn't have full control, a lot of the times the monsters are figments of their own nightmares and not something that Ruvik controls

it is described that over time patients will see each others dreams, so over time their safe places and nightmare ones begin to merge, like thing with the nurse getting run-down, and also on the dlc it that old and church are actually from Kidman's past

>The whole game starts in Ruvik's mind and ends in Ruvik's mind

that is another point, everything you see plays out in the perspective of the detective, and it seems only Kidman was in with mobious, Sebastian and Joseph not really aware of what is going on (another similarity with Silent Hill)

which suggest that either they were already plugged in STEM somehow, maybe in another cell, or even perhaps that Sebastian was already a patient in the mental hospital (with the brain shocks and everything)

>The game is actually excellent at letting you trick the AI into traps

that's another positive point for the game too, it rewards the player a lot for using the environment instead of wasting resources, that is, if you're not flaying around in despair

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>>13792693

Yes yes, I get all of the ideas behind the game. The problem is that the plot isn't coherent, there are holes left by the bad writing.

Ruvik clearly has direct control of way more than enough to kill the player at any time and chooses not to despite supposedly being a super edgy asshole who enjoys killing people. In other RE games the antagonists are generally assholes who enjoy toying with people, tricking the player into doing something they can't do themselves, or busy doing something else and trying to escape the player, and so on. They only become the final boss when they decide the player has been enough a thorn in their side that they have to inject themselves with w/e and take them out. This is part of having a coherent antagonist that acts according to motivations and unfolding events. Instead Ruvik just… doesn't end the game until the final level where he decides to take Leslie. 90% of the game is filler and there's no explanation why it exists.

The ending fucks up by taking the player out of dream world and then revealing they still are in dream world, so the whole game was in some multi-layered dream world thing and even though you thought you somehow accomplished something you actually accomplished nothing because all you accomplished was in a double dream world and only affected the first layer of dream world which is not the real world. Ruvik is still just stuck in a pod or w/e somewhere and didn't actually escape or accomplish anything. Obvious stupid plot hook for the 2nd game but instead TEW2 ignores TEW1's events almost entirely, apparently seabastion was let out of the final dream world and Ruvik is dead or still trapped or something.

>>13792764

That sounds interesting. Do you have a screencap of that?

>>13790770

At least that game has a dodge button. Arranged mode in RE1DC was absolute hell if you were in a room with 3 hunters. Shoot, even just two of them could take turns quick swiping you and you wouldn't even be able to raise your gun in time or run forward quick enough to stop em.

>>13792817

it seems I don't have it saved

>>13792858

Can you try your hardest to re-explain it?

>>13792885

the guy explains every game in due order more or less in the best way possible

Remember when main characters in RE had balls?

>Chris goes on a rescue mission after Bravo disappeared while searching for cannibals with only a knife

>Joseph casually picks up a guy's hand to look at his gun

>Wesker let himself get stabbed to initiate a scheme that would take over a decade to come to fruition

>Barry got locked out of the mansion and likely hitchhiked his way back to Raccoon while RE1 was going on

>Enrico gets inside a top secret Umbrella lab and doesn't say shit because he's 100% sure of his survival

>Rebecca takes down a T-001, Hunters, multiple giant insects, monkeys, zombies and dogs and never mentions it because that's what STARS was made to do

>Claire managed to get past a police barricade to find her brother and manages to survive Raccoon City in addition to making a G-Virus antivirus and saving a girl with embryos from the G-Virus

>Jill absolutely destroys the most intelligent and well designed Tyrant in just her casual clothes, and manages to make some Umbrella lackey her bitch

The only downside were the beta males surrounding these characters

>Brad Vickers got scared off by one dog and flew around for 12 hours until someone wanted to talk to him

>Leon gets pushed around by 2 females constantly and his idea of a cool one-liner is 'G-Game Over'

>>13792904

This reads like the virgin vs chad meme

>>13792897

>Ruvik does have limited control of the environment but he obviously cannot just kill people because he would have done so immediately. A major point in the game is that if you have a strong ego/will then you can affect STEM and stay sane. All that points to is that Sebastian had simply way more willpower than Ruvik and was not spooked enough to be killed. Joseph however had a weaker ego and got affected by the madness of Ruvik.

Ruvik is "*teleports behind you* you're already dead kiddo" levels of stupidly power (also the same level of edge). He teleports at will and touching him kills you. And limited control of the environment? He randomly teleports you places and literally creates Brutal DOOM levels for you to fight in. There's no plausible reason he can't kill the player at will and no given motivation not to. It'd be different if the story had some real motivation for him, like he's mortally afraid of fire and needs the player to go to something somewhere he can't bear to go, but none is given.

>Are you blind? The ending practically spells out that Ruvik got into Leslie and walked out of the hospital.

You have the headaches that come from Ruvik doing matrix stuff with the machine, the hospital is littered with the bodies of people Ruvik killed, there's no plausible explanation for a mental patient getting past the SWAT blockade. You're still in the machine. The only part of the game you can plausibly be in the real world is the 5s where Kidman is staring down at you in a tub and then you pass out again.

>>13792923

Every RE character is a virgin except for Ada, who is a used up whore

>>13790302

>Wesker’s sloppy seconds

>best girl

Boy, that vag has been globally saturated.

>>13792946

But Barry has a kid

>>13792958

I keep forgetting about Barry despite really liking him. Maybe it's because he's only appeared in half of RE1, an alternate ending and epilogue file in 3, a non-canon GBC game, RE5 and 3DS Mercs and REv2

>>13792974

don't forget resident evil revelations /2

>>13792937

> Ruvik is "*teleports behind you* you're already dead kiddo" levels of stupidly power (also the same level of edge)

> He randomly teleports you places and literally creates Brutal DOOM levels for you to fight in.

here is the point and you passed miles away from it

ruvik doesn't have make all the doom environments, every created in stem is part of its own people subconscious, in the second one it is explained pretty clearly that the core is the needed part to keep it all together and peoples nightmares start breaking the world apart (world morphing),

not only that but they also explained that people who are actual psychopaths can somehow see through theirs nightmares and thrive in it

by the end of the first game, ruvik doesn't decide to kill the protagonist, but instead he is loosing his shit, with his true self becoming more apparent (being only a brain), but instead Sebastian keeps through with it, suggesting he is possibly the even the worse psychopath, there is much to his story that only came in pieces and nothing is very who he ended up there,

a lot of things in the game a fucking eerie, like the fact that no one ever stopped to show surprise at the monstrosities they have been facing, like in Silent Hill where you would sometimes find someone else in the midst of the insanity but they would just behave like nothing was happening

with the dlc it is pretty clear that what each person connected is experience is completely different, even what each monsters follows them is different, Sebastian had the safe head, Kidman the leggy lady with highlights

>>13794719

Whether Ruvik directly creates the environments or the environments pre-exist and he simply teleports you between them is basically irrelevant. He's essentially all-powerful inside the dream world and has no motive for letting the player live.