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More like they aren't going to touch it with a ten foot pole and are going to keep on giving money to Blizzkikes.

>>13727182

>Dat plagueland blood pool you tell your buddy to go click on when they ask 'whats that'

Oh fuck that's giving me flashbacks.

Vanilla will not have the same audience as nu-WoW

Its like OSRS vs nu-scape

>>13727225

IT WAS ME AUSTIN, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG

they'll play it out of sheer novelty and you know it

best case scenario they prefer it over casual wow and the focus groups cater to a hardcore audience

>>13727240

Wouldn't best case scenario being some freak accident that kills them all?

I was surprised that they said they're not going to put in LFG/LFR or cross-server shit either but on the other hand they said they're going to hire for it. They haven't even got a fucking team together to do it yet.

You know what this is going to be? A slightly watered down current WoW. Stuff will be scaled down (i.e. max level you'll have 4,000 HP instead of 10,000,000 HP) but that's about it. I already know they're gonna butcher it in typical nu-Blizzard™ fashion.

And with this announcement that probably means all the private servers are gonna say fuck it and discontinue their projects, so say goodbye to Vanilla WoW for a long time.

>>13727263

There's a good chance they won't even go through with it I'd imagine. This is just a carrot on the stick to get more people paying attention to them.

It depends on how they roll it out. If you look back at fights in, for example, Molten Core, they're infinitely less complicated than modern fights. Trying to complete them with modern class mechanics would be beyond trivial, even if they bumped up all the stats to match max level players.

>>13727317

They actually said on stage "h-ha r-remember those server blades we auctioned off? w-we need them back now!" and i cannot honestly tell if it was a nervous joke or not.

I do in fact agree with this

"you think you want it but you dont." They have no clue what they're in for.

>>13727317

They even had a ice cream analogy to announce this. Nothing much announced at blizzcon: new character for overwatch Moira, a roguelike Hearthstone dungeon single player experience (they even had a live choose-your-own-adventure session with the audience), Bethesdala- i mean Blizzardworld map for overwatch. The usual cinematic shorts for overwatch for Reinhardt (the voice actor even came out to toss out candy) and Starcraft 2 is free-to-play. Montage of esports shit and I think that is about it. Oh.. new characters added to Heroes of the Storm if anybody still cares about that.

>>13727182

>Vanilla

But BC is far superior, minus flying mounts that shit was cancer and killed world pvp.

>>13727414

Resilience, welfare epics, and dailyshit were also cancer elements introduced in TBC

>Blizzard tells their fans that they don't want it.

>This makes their fans want it even more.

>No, you really don't want this goy!

>WE WANT IT

>IM TELLING YOU, YOU CANT HANDLE MY STRONGEST CLASSIC GOY!

>GIMME YOUR STRONGEST VANILLA BLIZZARD!

>Well, ok, but no refunds.

Blizzard is genius. Nerds will re-sub just to prove that they wanted it.

>>13727426

It's pathetic just how quickly a lot of people caved for this and I'm pretty sure the only reason it worked is because they waited nearly two years. That's like a century in internet time.

>>13727376

>Starcraft 2 is free-to-play

how much IS IT free to play? also the multiplayer was F2P

someone got a webm of all the highlights?

This will be the dark souls of warcraft's dark souls of dark souls of MMOs.

>>13727438

only the multi is fp2. if you want to play the dumb story to have to drop shekels

>>13727449

It's the Game of Thrones of competitive e-sports Cupheadlikes.

>implying it won't be casualized to shit somehow.

>>13727426

There had been a ton of people wanting to play Vanilla or BC for ages because they disliked the changes that came with the various expansions. It'll get at least some dedicated players the same way FFXI did, which may only mean a few tens of thousands of player, but that's still a a dedicated playerbase that is staying on to pay subscriber fees.

What I'm interested in is if they'll make just have one base subscription fee or if they'll do multiple for different types of WoW. Also it'll be interesting if they make it so you can transfer off the classic server and join onto a later expansion server. Because then you could have people start out on base vanilla WoW and work on as they please in whatever expansion they want.

>>13727182

vanilla WoW is still gonna be ruined by incompetent women and indians on visas

i may actually go for it if it isn't a bugfest though

So what of the fan-made legacy/vanilla servers? Did they C&D them for this or are they still up?

>>13727474

Maybe this will become the Dark Souls of Thrones of Game of thrones of rogue-like Cupheadlikes? But the real question is how does this Dark Souls of Game of Thrones of Warcraft negatively impact people who want to play the game and don't have arms.

>>13727574

I can assure you the shoah is coming if those servers are still up.

>>13727574

Honestly they are probably just going 'a-at least we are f2p!' right now as this is gonna lose them a fair bit of traffic i imagine.

Tfw spend 10 mins running/swimming through horde lands just to get a shot at doing SM.

>>13727591

make sure you don't get near that zeppelin

>>13727591

>Be dorf pally

>Get quest to go to SW

>Dont know about deeprun tram

>Go through the fucking badlands on insane res time corpseruns

>In SW in broken gear

>Turn in quest

>Oh shit is this a dungeon portal?

>Oh neat a tram lets ride this and see where it g- SON OF A BITCH

>all these faggots crying for vanilla and bc wow

Why don't they just play a private server?

>>13727182

So, how do you guys think they'll fuck it up?

I'm going to bet a week of semi normal play which will then be 'tweaked' to accommodate new players, and introduction of loot boxes for either raid gear or cosmetic items from the current version.

>>13727665

because there aren't any good ones right now… yet

>>13727677

It'll have some kind of cancerous battlenet functionality I'm sure.

>>13727677

They'll put in lfr/dungeonfinder

>>13727591

I used to love that shit. Dungeon finder, buying skills without doing skill quests, more travel connections, etc. ruined the feel of exploration being an actual part of the game.

I used to love racing to be the first to a dungeon to help summon people, making the darn/SW run (including showing new people how/where to go), going to way higher level horde areas as alliance to grab flight points and fun grind zones (thousand needles/gadgetzan).

>>13727686

They specifically said they would not put those in though.

>>13727677

aww

>>13727560

and SJWwatch

>>13727696

Source?

Or is this what they said at the event?

>>13727696

They also specifically said we didn't want vanilla wow and they wouldn't make it.

>>13727707

Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I remember BC being bretty gud.

>>13727418

>implying anyone would enter SSC with magister's shit

Fam, you HAD to run Kara to get a spot.

>>13727761

Not true. I replayed vanilla in nostalrius and had fun.

>>13727761

>>13727764

Some nostalgia is just nostalgia and revisiting ruins it.

Some is actually just better than the current day.

Both are valid, so lets not start this.

>>13727761

This. A lot of these faggots will be disappointed when they play it.

>>13727764

so did i

but then i got bored and quit months ago, before the light's hope thing

>>13727793

How narcissistic do you have to be to have a t-shirt with yourself on it?

>>13727793

Imagine you father a son, your legacy, your heir. You want to give him all he wishes for in the world, to see him become a man and stand tall and be someone you can respect and be proud of.

and he turns into that after being indoctrinated by college or tumblr. This is how your bloodline comes to an end. From the first stirrings of life in the primordial oceans of our young world through millions of years of adaption, surviving multiple extinction events and all that biological impossibility resulting in this abomination dies here.

>>13727793

Even if she were hot having someone present themselves with a shirt like that is just unprofessional. It says a lot about how they feel about Blizzcon in general really.

>>13727436

>two years

>for vanilla servers

gr8 b8 m8.

>>13727526

They'll do whatever makes them the most money. But at the same time, they are desperately trying to gain back what they used to be. So it will probably be a subscription for all of wow. inb4 they bring out Classic Burining Crusade, wotlk, etc.

>>13727560

More like what >>13727346 said. they probably lost/got rid of their old shit and have been remaking it using scraps of private server code.

>>13727612

"B-But its real go-guys! We loved vanilla too!" and they'll love it more if you give them money for it

>>13727707

WoW was a blending of several mmos when it launched, coupled by being "Warcraft, THE MMO!" and Blizz being a decent company back then, is what made it successful. It as easy to get into and easy to play. It didn't need the best of anything that makes an mmo an mmo. It just had to grow. That's why better mmo's like Daoc, WAR, AoC, went under. They couldn't rival the ease of entry nor could they rival the fact that it was the four installment of a highly popular series of video games.

>>13727819

Faggots/trans are all mental defective narcissists. In this case, this thing has to constantly remind everyone around that it is a "woman". even if that means putting her dumb fucking face on a t shirt

The only thing I would want them to change is the character models, the new ones are really good. The rest i want to be exactly the same.

>>13727793

Reminder this MUH DIVERSITY and MUH SOCIAL JUSTICE shit portion of Blizzcon had more priority than doing anything for Diablo. Have another reminder that Tracer being gay had more priority than Diablo turning 25.

>>13727846

>crowd goes nuts for diablo

>tiny pitter of cheer for hots and hearthstone

>morheims face as he panics

>>13727850

Did they even announce anything for Diablo!?

>>13727761

While you cannot capture the fun of playing a game the first time, saying that you cannot go back and enjoy games from when you were younger is wrong. I played quite a bit of Age of Empires 1 and 2 and still enjoy playing them.(Although revisiting 1 after playing 2 ruined the experience)

what do you like about wow gameplay?

combat feels like shittier version of diablo

>>13727874

It was okay until sjw furfag ruined it.

what is the point of wow classic after youve experienced everything it has to offer? is the pvp that fun?

>>13727883

More like chaotic, but yes it is fun.

>>13727879

was the combat even main appeal or was it more setting+people+potential?

i came late to the party and uninstalled after i gave it chance for a week

>>13727761

That only applies to multiplayer games, faggot. Singleplayer games don't age or die like MMOshit.

>>13727899

That and datamining tech was really piss poor at the time, so there was actually some mystery to the world.

>>13727862

No thats the funny thing. The crowd just went "yeah fukken diablo!!!" and "heh. hearthstone. i guess. yay" and you could see him fucking sweating thinking 'i hope the shareholders didnt see that'

>>13727612

>willing to uproot

They're going to be forced to uproot when Actiblizz drops the lawsuit hammer on anyone running a private server.

>>13727933

After the trainwreck that is Diablo 3 I'm glad they're leaving Diablo alone personally.

>>13727960

Diablo 4 lootboxes

>>13728001

I'm grading on a curve here, okay?

>>13727761

>You're just nostalgic, goy

>Our civilization and culture aren't in a downward spiral

Actually schlomo, I have been back and played the games I used to enjoy, and they are in fact better than the crap being made these days.

>fondly remember elementary school

>return years later

>it's small and uninteresting

GOOD LUCK GOING HOME AGAIN, FAGGOTS

>>13728016

No, it's not okay. Calling a tranny "she" validates their mental illness. That's not a she. That's a fucking dude who's pretending to be a woman because the world is completely upside down. Stop enabling these pieces of shit and their insanity.

>>13728030

I call them "it" or "them". To me they are neither man or woman, but Jewish created abominations, that are incapable of being Golems, because in the end, Golems destroy the Jew.

>>13727612

They're also going to know that at some point, Blizzard will just pull the plug on classic again in the future, which means it's better long-term strategy to stay on private servers anyway. Blizzard can't provide as much long-term security as private groups for something that's increasingly niche, because Blizzard is now just a business, not people who labor by love.

People are crazy if they think it's going to be World of Warcraft 1.12. They dubbed it CLASSIC for a reason. It's going to be an updated edition of vanilla.

>>13728057

It will be 1.12 with transmog, achievements, mount and pet tab, and current UI

But it will still be 1.12, just with a polished interface.

I don't think they'd touch the gameplay, otherwise it would be counter-intuitive.

>>13728076

That be awesome.

Even if only that means private servers can finally get all the data of actual vanilla wow that they want without having to sift through old clips and pictures. If they have a vanilla server for 2 or so years, I am pretty sure that private servers can be perfected with all the new data that can be gotten. We are living in a time where we KNOW that we want to capture all this data for the future. Many MMOs and even vanilla WoW did not have that luck, although vanilla WoW was lucky enough to already have an emulator community when it was still alive.

Vanilla was always shit. It was just better than EQ2 at the time.

>>13728019

can heartily agree, DOOM and witcher 3 were pleasant surprises, other than that most games today have gone to shit compared to what i used to play

It's funny how many idiots there are who refuses to remove their rose tainted glasses and see how shitty the game was back then. Specs that were literally useless, easy ass raids with barely any mechanics, spamming chat for a tank or a healer for ages and a fuck ton of other things. Like why would you want to play that fuckfest? You're not 15yo discovering your first MMO where everything is new.

>>13728189

Just because nobody is in the other thread anymore doesn't mean you should come here.

>>13728189

Why would you want to play a game where the world is a ghost town because people are sitting in their single player realms doing shit before logging off and never seeing people outside raids that are nothing more than move and clock

>>13728201

Actually quivers were for a speed increase with auto attacks.

>Zul'gurub is bad

>>13728173

Enlighten me anon

why would they shoot themselves in the foot and give a Legion gameplay vanilla experience? They could simply make timewalking if they're gonna do that.

>>13727819

ive seen that sorta shit all over DA. ugly ogresses like her will make cutesy anime versions of themselves to further delude their minds and forget their ugly forms

>>13728211

quivers worked for melee? I thought they patched that.

>>13728201

>he actually believes the alliance:horde ratio myth

It was on a per-server basis, you weren't the underdogs you think you were. It would have been as simple as move to a server where horde is dominant, but instead you loved to pretend that 95% of players were alliance and that the horde were some kind of underrepresented faction. But you're on notice, and I'm pointing out how stupid (and bullshit) your bullshit really is.

There was never a alliance-favored balance of power, other than on certain servers. Just like on certain servers the horde were far more dominant.

>>13728222

Ranged auto attack you goof.

>>13728158

explain to me why doom was bad compared to

>WWI with niggers and gays!! x DD

>OMG WWII with more niggers and gays!! xD

doom blew every shooter game thats come out in the last 10 years right out of the fucking water, no reloads, fast paced action and no story? its a step in the right direction and thats better than nothing

>witcher 3 is bad

what the fuck is wrong with you

>>13728236

Witcher in general is a bad series. It's a poor man's Kingdom Hearts (in regards to Action RPG gameplay, not story)

>playing games for the story

>>13728235

>blizzard improving the game

and maybe my dick will grow 4 inches tonight

>>13728235

That's what vanilla players actually want, and what vanilla private servers (and possibly Blizzard) for the most part completely miss the point of. Sure it's nice to play the game back before homogeneity crept in .. but no one wants to play a stasis-locked version of a game. It needs updates and fixes, otherwise you're just playing with the same limitations and wondering what the fuck it's all for.

>>13728236

>fast paced action and no story

Yeah, love it when that action gets interrupted constantly by context kills and walkietalkie bits. Jesus you aren't even trying.

>>13728230

>this fat kike owns the board

why is this allowed?

>>13728255

Because he got here before you did, retard. If you want to make your own /v/, go for it. I wish you the best of luck, but considering you'll probably try to run it with an iron fist and ban games you don't like, you'll see why we let Mark continue to run the board.

>>13727707

WoW had quite a lot of very cool game elements which gradually got fucked up by removing talents and dumbing down stats/abilities. Like there was the basic ability in Vanilla to get +healing gear to make using lower ranked healing spells more efficient, so healers would have a dozen healing spells they'd use routinely rather than just the 2-3 they use now.

>>13728259

Ah yes, the +damage and +healing stats on gear, I do remember that vaguely. Before they turned everything into "muh spellpower."

>>13728259

A dozen version of the same spell for different mana costs clogging the skill bar. Wew lad that'd deep gameplay.

>>13728255

better the kike you know than the kike you don't.

:^)

>>13728235

>>13728244

>>13728248

This is a bad idea. Despite the fixes that could be made, and there are many doing so will is a bad idea for two reasons.

1. Blizzard are fucking incompetent, and couldn't possibly do anything but make it all worse.

2. Making a lot of changes will completely fuck over the community since many guides will no longer be usable. This is especially bad for raids, and pvp. Once a game is released you don't want to do a lot of balance fixes because it keeps the community from growing. Just give me vanilla with the bug fixes.

>>13728258

>why we let Mark continue to run the board.

>implying anyone has a say in the matter

HA. Nope.

>>13728270

It's little things like that which made the game a little richer. Plus there was the whole nature of having groups needing to actually use crowd control to get through regular dungeons because using no crowd control would mean your group being raped.

Everything in the game just felt a bit more significant.

>>13728275

You can always simply tune damage percentages for those who need it, like ret paladins.

It's honestly not hard or heavily game changing to the point of imbalance, anon

If anything vanilla is already imbalanced and needs balance tuning

>>13728270

Nothing wrong with that

mages used rank 1 frostbolt for quick snare application,etc.

Imbalances are mostly classes doing less DPS than others, being utter shit in PvP while others are gods (balance druids compared to warriors, etc)

>>13728275

Just buff damage where needed with percentage of damage buffs and buff talents that need buffing without changing them greatly. Simple quality of life and small bandaids where needed. Vanilla definitely needs it. Unless you want holy paladins to be stacked in every raid and no one being anything than warrior or rogue for pvp

>>13728280

You do though, by going to another offshoot like the many tried before. The issue is retards like you won't move because legacy boards have brand recognition

>>13728294

I'm not saying vanilla is balanced. I'm saying letting blizzard do anything because fix bugs is a bad idea. Take HoMM 3 for example, it's horribly imbalanced but making changes to it will only hurt the community that has grown around it. Blizzard to balance vanilla would have to gut the entire game, and rebalance everything. Rogues themselves would be the biggest problem of all. Just leave it alone I say.

>>13728312

The best they could possibly do is just add more loot that emphasizes the strengths of less used builds but good luck getting Blizzard to design something that isn't just a big bonus to two stats.

>>13728323

What about draining souls for soulstones and spellbooks for demons? being a warlock was suffering AND WE LIKED IT.

>>13728323

>Didn't priests used to use a lower ranked cleanse or hot because it was basically the same but cheaper?

Yes.

>>13728309

>can't into reading comprehension

I replied to the idea that anyone here has a say in whether or not Mark runs this board you illiterate nigger.

>>13728236

didn't like witcher but i did like nu-doom

didn't want you to feel alone

they will fuck up the sequel

>>13728323

>>13728337

all the flavor truly has been sucked out of current year wow.

>>13728337

It's good you suffered, because your class was nothing but annoying cunts in PvP.

>>13728346

You do have a say though. Like I said leaving for a offshoot is a say. Don't claim it isn't a say in the situation. Because it tells mark that all the good posters are leaving leaving him the shit ones. Menaing he does either have to man the fuck up or let the board rot

>>13728230

>Autistic enough to not only miss the point but also start sperging

The game was always shit or average at best, yet it only went to shit after the release of wotlk alienating and going against what the player base wanted, The decline of wow after the release of cataclysm is not arguable, Arguing about whatever WOTLK was good is asinine in this context, i am sorry you have such shit taste you can differenciate between different tastes of shit

>>13728377

Warlocks are annoying cunts in general.

t. warlock

>>13728390

>Blizzard had the design ingenuity

If it was a good idea, I guarantee it was an accident.

>>13728396

I considered that, but I want to believe they had some idea of how to balance things out so that you needed at least one of every class in your raid.

>>13728227

>It was on a per-server basis, you weren't the underdogs you think you were. It would have been as simple as move to a server where horde is dominant, but instead you loved to pretend that 95% of players were alliance and that the horde were some kind of underrepresented faction. But you're on notice, and I'm pointing out how stupid (and bullshit) your bullshit really is.

>

>There was never a alliance-favored balance of power, other than on certain servers. Just like on certain servers the horde were far more dominant.

Hordefags will never give up their delusions.

>>13728390

Druids could remove curse.

>>13728404

I didn't say transfer, I said move. Start over.

>>13728412

Ah, my mistake.

>>13728419

The point still stands though, but I doubt they did it from a lore perspective and more from a "we don't want one class removing all buffs" perspective. Priests not being to get rid of poison for example makes no sense.

so is it vanilla forever? or will it progress to BC and WOTLK eventually?

>>13728427

Wow was never diffcult retard, you sperged after reading that i said that wow went to shit after wotlk and missed the point where i clearly stated that the shit was always worst in terms of pve experienced than everquest, worst on the sandbox aspect than ultima online and worst on pvp experience than DaoC, fucking youngfag

>>13728408

The problem with the horde was two fold. Now this is based on my experience with nost specifically since it's recent, and the horde/alliance population was mostly equal. Horde would be at a disadvantage in world pvp because most of the quest trails people would be on had lower level quest for horde than alliance. This meant it was much more likely for low level horde players to face higher level alliance. On top of this many of the horde players were pve shitters, and even worse many had this idea of not attacking unless they were attacked. The result was that even though the population was equal, the alliance still dominated. Horde players deserved to be bullied into submission. I say this even though I play horde to avoid nelffags.

>>13728439

>Wow was never diffcult retard

oh wow its that faggot who spams the same line over and over again when vanilla or TBC wow is mentioned on /v/, i always thought you were some kind of Guild Wars turbonerd hating on WoW but it seems you were just a retarded wotlk baby which actually explains your attitude and shitty mentality when it comes to older expansions.

>>13727346

why?

Why isn't that server that let you create custom classes super popular? They even have a hard core server where you drop your items on death.

>>13728426

The biggest mistake in WoW was stopping Jaina from gassing the Horde.

>>13727707

I don't understand why someone would pay money every month to play a grindfest but i'm not a cuck so I guess I would never know.

>>13728426

>horde had to deal with alliance bridge of death

>he never learned about the secret mountain pass

>>13728480

I remember it running like absolute shit last I tried. Something like 25fps just idle in an empty cave while any other Wrath server was in the 40s and 50s.

>>13728483

>MoP lore

gas yourself

>>13728486

you mean the passage that could be shutdown with a single mage casting Blizzard over and over again while alliance could just jump over the last line of defence and kill Drek?

>>13728478

>Blizzard could make waifus real

That sounds like a disaster and a half

>>13728478

if waifus were real, they wouldn't be your waifu.

>>13728500

Do you really think an MMO can provide a better experience in those aspects, without being challenging, addying layers of complexity and rewarding skill? Second again the only way you woudnt consider that wow went to shit after wotlk is if you think TBC and Vanilla were good to begin with, if you go for any other metric you would say that wow peaked and went to shit as a MMO after wotlk was released even if the expansion was objetiverly worse than the average MMO experience TBC and Vanilla provided

>>13727954

if they should do anything to the gear, they should do a squish so that, for example, naxx loot would be T2

offset pieces are good enough for specs that don't use tier loot; fury warrior gear was good enough, so was retadin gear after naxx came out

>>13728189

also there is one and only 1 bad spec, and that is beast mastery for hunters… when they hit 60 and get some blue items

ret is useful for PvP, especially with a good 2 hander, or even just a naxx 1h+shield

arcane is useful for PvP, and can be used in PvE so you can blow your cooldowns to burn down the boss faster in the enrage phase

balance… i guess has its uses for pvp, but thats the only arguable one

feral druids are good in pvp and are useful as offtanks in PvE, who can also pull a palpable amount of damage as a dps when not wanted to offtank, but then can offtank in the same set of gear in just 3 seconds

affliction warlocks are good for pvp, deep destro warlocks are good for pvp, enhancement shamans can hit players hard with windfury, elemental shamans can burst good in pvp, deep shadow priests can buff shadow weaving, and are also good in pvp, every deep rogue spec is good, survival hunters are good in AQ40 and up, and prot paladins are at least okay offtanks

Never played Warcraft so I don't have that strong of an opinion about the mechanics but it just seems like greedy kikes backpedaling and doing something that another has already done better and for free.

>>13728507

you outed yourself as a wotlk baby your damage control now is useless, atleast now i know that you are just a retard who started playing during wotlk instead of some butthurt Guild Wars fag who spams WoW threads on /v/.

>>13727833

>>13727346

Blizzard didn't lose the code, Blizzard lost all the numbers, all the databases with talent values and all that shit.

>>13728555

THe legacy servers are kind athe last straw for them.They know that players have been asking for it and it should've been a neasy weay to provide considering how fans managed to do it for years on end.

Legions numbers must be abysmaly bad for them to actually do it, if you look at how hard they always went against the idea of providing them.

>>13728555

I'm certain they'll intentionally sabotage just as an excuse to pretend no one wants it, assuming they ever even do it at all really.

>>13728576

Legion is losing players faster than WoD and that should tell you enough about it, even the most obnoxious Blizzard drone streamers like Towellie, Asmongold, Bajheera and that skinny faggot who took steroids to look like Pich Piana from Method are getting boring and stream less than usual since they cannot bear to play the game anymore

>>13728619

Euro here, I'll be playing US.

>>13728623

are you anti-islamic at least?

>>13728623

Not you babe, Specifically the server hosting faggots.

>>13728619

you'll have to deal with BRs

>>13728623

You better not be a filthy chink apologist.

>>13728584

>Yes, someone that played DaoC, Vanilla,TBC, Everquest and ultima online is a wotlk baby

You are full of shit, you outed yourself as a wotlk baby and your claim about playing DaoC, Everquest and Ultima online are nonsense

>Please keep the mental gymnastic going blizzdrone that cant admit how average the experience was on vanilla and TBC, and wotlk outside of molten core.

Lmao calling me a blizzdrone because i recognized your stupid ass from the vanilla/TBC threads you shitposted for months? Now you really must be desperate and humiliated, i just hope you werent on my server during Wotlk because i have fond memories of it despite having a certain amount of obnoxious faggots like you after Wotlk launch.

>>13728619

>AND FAGGOT EUROSTANIANS ANYMORE

nobody cares about you Rtas, go back to playing your shitty FPS games with autists from cuckchan

>>13728619

Prepare to get banned for killing people in world PVP.

>>13728647

>Also don't forget about waiting several hours for your dungeon group to gather at the entrance unless you had a warlock.

Well it wasnt exactly hours but yeah walking through all the zones to get to Blackrock Mountain was pain in the ass if you were a Horde, i think the main issue on vanilla was people were too afraid to admit they didnt know something so they would wander around until they find the right path/entrance or until the group kicks them for taking too long.

However doing UBRS/LBRS/Stratholme/Scholomance was truly a nightmare when it comes to time, doing UBRS with randoms would take 3 hours minimum.

>>13728555

>that another has already done better

Not really. Not ever, even after years and years of development. Warcraft private servers are rife with the typical modder drama, except it's modder drama that wastes thousands of hours of player time after each and every fuckup.

Blizzard entertainment is literally the most jewish company in all videogames and so I hate the fact that small independent devs can't do exactly what you said, but that's how it is.

>>13728670

just stop embarassing yourself, if you werent retarded you would admit your mistake and say "I want to experience vanilla/TBC so i can compare it to Wotlk when i started playing", instead you went on an autistic rampage and damage control when you outed yourself as a wotlk baby.

Fun fact: Wotlk had only 5% more subs than TBC during its peak which means Wotlk alienated alot of old players but in turn brought in alot of new players aswell, faggots like you that thought welfare epics and steamrollable Naxx were good PvE designs.

>>13728665

oh thatd be something

>people buy WoW in droves so they can play vanilla again

>roll on PvP server

>talk trash in the starter zone's general chat

>gets banned

>others talk trash in barrens chat

>get banned

>others gank people in world PvP

>get banned

>turns out the game is buggier than feenix after the lvl 25 zones

>people complain

>people also complain about thin-skinned mods

>people say politically incorrect stuff

>get banned

>people complain about SJW mods too

>people start leaving

>eventually a game-breaking bug are found from some item

>instead of fixing it they just prevent new players from getting said item, just like in destiny 2

>even more players leave

>private servers become an even bigger problem than before

>>13728696

on Nost entrance to Blackrock Mountain was always camped by PvPers, even if they didnt target you directly you would die from the sheer amount of AOE spells being used in the narrow passages

>>13728710

I guarantee they'll only keep the server up just long enough to seek legal action on private servers or trick the staff into joining Blizzard and then arresting them like that one dipshit who pirated the HL2 beta.

>Warriors a joke in PvP until Naxxramas gear

>Mages summon 2 bottles of best water per cast

>Reagents everywhere

>Warlocks suck in general

>5 minute Paladin buffs

>No raid wide buffs. Only group wide.

I really wonder what they'll do.

This will be an interesting experiment assuming they go full vanilla and use it as a containment sponge for all the potential subs that want to indulge in nostalgia.

How long will this last when you have very finite , aged content and no progression beyond a certain point? If this isn't a shitshow from the start, it will likely be huge and generate huge numbers initially, then taper off. I think thats entirely relative to xp/drop rates. We are theoretically looking at vanilla time frames assuming there aren't half measures and compromises for casuals. There is quite a potentially for this to become a containment for autists who just world pvp and battleground for grand marshall.

Theres also the potential that this generates enough buzz to warrant independent new content catered to this crowd which exists in a sort of alternate time line. I simply think this won't happen. I think Blizzard realizes there is a revenue stream out there toiling around on shit scripted homebrew servers and that its time to kill the private servers and profit in one fell swoop. Vanilla WoW obscene will is likely going to boom and then bust leaving nothing but the hardened autists and smug Blizzard richer, while they tell you how they told you so.

Then again, who knows. You watch private server campaigns pop up here and you just know they're going to go to shit sooner than later. I'm actually excited not to play it, but to see how the whole thing pans out now that Blizzard itself is making the attempt.

>>13728740

Don't forget class quests. I can't imagine the idea of a quest that can't be soloed at level will sit well with the newfags.

>>13728711

>people out him as a retarded wotlk baby

>he accuses them of being blizzard drones

You are hilariously stupid

>>13728748

>Fun facts, I played both Vanilla and TBC,

Nonsense, you will not convince anyone with that bullshit, your reaction image just further proves you are on a heavy damage control.

>saying that the game went to shit after WOTLK considering that woltk was more successful than the previous expansion is factually correct

Making up bullshit about wotlk because you started playing in wotlk is not "factually correct" thats just your bullshit and damage control, how long will you continue this autism and keep embarassing yourself?

>>13728740

warriors were actually pretty good in PvP once they got a weapon from ragnaros, or at least a different MC weapon

why whine about reagents?

warlocks may not hit as hard as mages, but you still want them for banishes and curses, and they have a very different function for PvP

they also have a "pet"

theres 15 minute party-wide paladin buffs, though they use a regeant

>>13728764

the rogue poison quest can be soloed at 20, each enemy iirc has a certain weakness

>>13728742

it can last for maybe 5 years assuming that they progress to fixed TBC then fixed wrath within a reasonable timeframe

>>13728777

TBC was peak of WoW, i didnt like the spacegoats retcon, Naaru and how blood elves visuals were changed from WC3 but it was really the best version of WoW, Wotlk in beta was interesting because they showed some fun stuff and promised much more but eventually the fucked it all up in the last 3 beta patches and cut alot of content, for example only reason players got Trial of Crusader in 3.2 is because ICC wasnt finished in time and devs removed Vrykul + Nerubian raids from the game.

>>13728783

I was thinking more the warrior ones like going into fucking RFK at 20.

>>13728793

only if they'd do an item level squash, and have more raids per tier

>>13728805

oh, i forgot about that

then again though that part of RFK is easier than the rest of it

>>13728825

Did they ever do anything with lower karazhan and the upside down sinners? That shit was spooky

>>13728499

>implying you don't belong in a chamber choking to death.

>>13728825

Where in Azshara was this?

>>13727612

>uproot, grind through it all again

do you even know private server playing faggots? they live to hop on the latest FRESH hype train and reroll

>>13728825

do you know some more stuff about that portal?

>>13728835

oh right the vanilla Karazhan was insanely big and the crypts beneath were even bigger

>>13728837

>>13728854

this was in Bay of Storms part under the water right next to night elf ruins, sadly this was removed in 1.12, Blizzard even planned a BG for Azshara zone but scrapped it, on vanilla servers you can still see the alliance and horde banners that were planted but with NPCs missing

>>13728337

>Spending 20-30 minutes before a raid farming basilisks for food buff meat and soulshards back in TBC

It's the little things like this that give me nostalgia.

>>13728645

There's BR servers. They don't play US servers.

>>13728872

since when?

think it will have the raid finder? also curious if it will start as a fresh world with everyone at lvl 1

>>13728819

lmao you keep calling us blizzdrones because we outed you as a wotlk baby, just stop being autistic and stop embarassing yourself, you prob heard about DaoC/Everquest/Ultima from some gaming journo site when they did an article about a 10 year anniversary or something

>>13727580

>>13727574

>>13727583

I just logged off a private server, just about all of general chat in Ogrimmar was people wondering if they should just stop playing right now and wondering how long it would manage to stay up after this announcement.

>>13728337

The very first alliance warlock quest has you queueing up with 600 other people to loot some book on the ground that respawns every two minutes

After going through that they find out they can't CC anyone because the other faction is 90% forsaken

It's the only class for a trve vanilla masochist

>>13728888

>Tfw they literally resell vanilla WoW and market it as the dark souls of mmos and it captures a new generation of neets and shit goes back to circa 2004.

>>13728889

cast fear on the undead, then after they blow their racial cast deathcoil and run until the racial wears off maybe a second after deathcoil does

There is only one single situation in which I'd even consider giving this the time of day, and that is if they add servers for TBC and WotLK as well, with the option of e.g. playing through a classic server, then keeping my char there while copying it onto a TBC server and so forth.

>>13728895

dude just stop embarassing yourself, you are not gona convince anyone with your lies, you got outed, your damage control is beyond pathetic now

>>13728850

Best thing is No more dealing with the reddit guild that's been posting on here. glad their thread got nuked

>>13728906

Maybe if wrath used the cut ideas like 'kill your existing character to make it a death knight'

>>13727874

I liked interacting with a server community, guildmates, and questing. This was before there was a dungeon finder or cross-server instances. Parts of the world I legitimately liked e.g night elf and the mystique around Emerald Dream. Eventually though if I don't have a group to play with or whatever I end up piling up gold and jewing the auction house until I quit.

>>13729008

>Stating facts

>Mistake

that would be convenient for you, right?

>>13728998

The community before wotlk was what made the game great. Learning who was reliable or a cunt. Who the best healers or tanks were, the best dps. The best pvpers. Stirring shit against the other faction alongside another guild because they fucked with you. It was great.

>>13727291

This. It's going to be vanilla WoW in game only.

Even if it was a carbon copy of vanilla it wouldn't fix the dogshit community the game has now. It's been 13 years, let it die already.

>>13727899

>>13727874

>combat feels like shittier version of diablo

>WoW

>tab targeting

>global cd

>cooldowns

>(long) cast times and channeling

>centric around a rotation depending on class

>tank, healer, dps group structure

>diablo II

>click and aim spells

>spammable skills

>spammable potions

>centric around one or a few synergized skills

>no formal roles per character class

>can stack faster cast and attack rates

WoW combat and Diablo II combat aren't similar. However combat is not a real appeal of either of those games.

I loved vanilla but the people I played with either moved on or quit vidya or died. Wouldn't be the same without them.

>>13728800

> it was really the best version of WoW

Bullshit.

< casualized reputation

< team and world PVP ditched in favor of arenas

< most endgame is far away from the rest of WoW

< daily quests and achivements

< broken flying mount shit

< lame instances

< outland is seriously stupid

< sitting endlessly in Shattarath listening to the high pitched hum of crystals and shit wishing that the map looked and sounded cooler… actually fucking missing the endless time I spent in gay ass laggy Ironforge.

Granted a few things were slightly better:

> Everyone could stop their bitching about Paladins and Shamans and classes were reasonably balanced toward the end of vanilla/BC

> Karazan was pretty rad, and I didn't hate Sunwell or Cavern of Time

> Illidan's hammy lines

> Despite boring linear instances, bosses were better and heroics made pug dungeons more enjoyable at endgame

I'm sure there is shit I'm forgetting but while people left in Cata, I feel like the shit that made people leave started in TBC.

>>13729113

One just has to pay attention to what they did with diablo and their "bringing back a classic". What a complete shitshow

>>13728041

No, that's still validating their mental illness by accepting they aren't a man. Genetically speaking, they will always be a man. He is a delusional, mutilated man.

>>13729185

Ironically that validatez a previous liberal notion that you can be that big of a sissy and still call yourself a man.

>>13727612

This. I would rather not play it at all at this point than ever give bliz another cent.

>>13729124

What did they do?

>>13729218

They brought back a piece of diablo 2 in diablo 3 for some stupid event. Embed is one of the first hits I got from youtube so expect a high dosage of cancer.

>Legacy servers

Holy shit the madmen actually swallowed their pride and did it.

>>13729202

Except it isn't. He is a delusional weirdo. Still a male, but a pathetic loser.

>>13727526

>Also it'll be interesting if they make it so you can transfer off the classic server and join onto a later expansion server. Because then you could have people start out on base vanilla WoW and work on as they please in whatever expansion they want.

for what purpose, though?

for any expansion past WOTLK, you could just level a new character to where the expansion starts quick as hell. and gear has never transferred, even as early as the first expansion people were replacing their raid gear by the second expansion leveling zone.

>>13729268

Probably for item transmogs, recipies and mounts.

>>13728201

>alterac valley matches that last literally days

That's a bad thing?

>>13727912

This is why I liked Tibia's system of only feeding map data to the player when they actually see that part of the map. That game still has unsolved mysteries and even some quests that got removed because no one could figure them out.

Official Tibia Classic servers when?

>>13729395

Now let's think about what the alliance was probably going through during that same match.

> Hours long queue times because you have to wait your fucking turn and there aren't enough horde to accommodate another instance

> good players accidentally drop and can't get back in

> lots of scrubs enter fuck around and duck out doing nothing to help

> have horde pushed back to base but fucking pugs don't know how to focus fire or follow directions because they are just happy to have gotten in to the battleground and have no experience with it

> fucking rage at a win in the bag turning into a loss

> a month later cross server battlegrounds are implemented

> can actually find good groups that can manage the scrubs

> doesn't take forever to get in

> fucking finally can farm honor with a good group

> no shortage of horde

> no shortage of players

> this shit rules

day long AV was great but cross server battlegrounds needed to happen.

>>13729493

Nost wasn't killed by blizzard. Nost themselves tried to use their own server as leverage.

The frogs fucked over their playerbhase for blizz jobs and nothing came of it

>>13728323

Had to play my druid as a healer in BWL/AQ in order to scrape together throwaway raid cloth for boomkin funtimes.

Rank 2 healing touch was bread and butter.

>>13729509

This came of it. Apparently their arguement was a compelling sales pitch but they had no reason to give those fags jobs.

>>13729515

> boomkin

literal furry cancer. Play a mage you fucking scrub

>>13729509

The frogs were pulling triple time on that scam because they also let a droprate bug go untouched for the first few days so that all of the big guilds that donated could steamroll to 60 on the back of easy loot and then have the entire economy on lockdown. It was rigged from the start.

>>13729527

Don't knock the furries, you want at least one to chain up in the corner for the crit buff. That shit was insane before they killed rolling ignites and then changed from crit % to crit rating on gear.

>>13729185

They aren't human, they're subhuman, so "it" is an entirely fine word to use.

>>13727834

>Her

>>13729548

>>13729527

I just liked being able to solo any elite with root/starfire spam, like doing all those silithus grinds without help

>>13729681

>literally everyone's first char.

I didn't get to keep him as the demo CD didn't transfer over.

Orc shaman's my favorite class/combo though

>>13729690

FROSTSHOOOOOOOCK

>>13729701

Wasn't everyone's first character a dwarf hunter?

>>13729690

>Orc shaman's my favorite class/combo though

I would probably like orcs a lot more if their starting zone wasn't so shit.

Dun morogh is still the best, in vanilla and beyond.

>>13728426

>its because people like playing blood elves you stupid midgets

Reminder that the Blood Elves are only the Horde to raise its playerbase.

>>13729708

Mine was an undead warlock because I heard warlocks were OP.

>>13729713

Though horde got the short end of the stick in terms of questing paths we had some of the best starting zones. Silverpine forest can suck a dick though, especially considering that many servers don't implement the kiting right, and you end up pulling 6 to 7 enemies at once in that damn place.

>>13729720

is that what you'll roll if you suckle on Blizz's vanilla teat?

I'm thinking about druids cause of their role flexibility but I dunno..

>>13729724

Barrens was nice because you could literally grind 15 levels in 1 zone.

>>13729736

It was fucking huge to, and fun to explore.

>>13729690

My first character was orc rogue

I still remember the biggest acheivement for me was scaling the mountain line and leaving valley of trials to find even more or the world out in front of me. Learning of towns beyond was interesting.

>>13729488

> fucking finally can farm honor

Players like you are why wow died.

>>13729743

I still had that worg pet when I stopped playing in 2011.

Fucking good. Perhaps people who enjoyed it will be able to get away from all these massive niggers.

>Playing Paladin

>Vanilla

Lol no.

>>13729743

>spending hours on wow-petopia for perfect companion

>searching all over the world for it

>find it

>first it attacks you then gradually over days falls in love with you

>your best friend for years

fuq all these lost memories

>>13729727

No, I didn't like it very much. Also I hate subscription fees so I won't be playing on Blizzard's server.

>>13729771

>back when some beasts kept their unique traits

>sonic raptor chasing down epic mounts

>>13729743

>having worg pet instead of that one low level wolf mob from mulgore that barks when clicked on

Why?

Also the only changes from modern WoW I'd even consider tolerating are the updated player/npc models (especially the shit that was still using placeholders in vanilla), and transmog. Every thing else needs to be pure vanilla or it's a no go for me. Having xrealm battlegrounds would be a huge deal breaker.

>>13729799

I liked the worg model better and that it was pitch black just like my IRL dog that I named it after.

RIP Jacques. I miss you buddy.

>>13729741

You're almost not wrong, even though Blizzard are the ones who killed WoW, not players. Battleground/honor farming turned into cancerous arena farming which was just fucking boring and stupid.

Doesn't negate the fact that battleground queues were a fucking bitch for servers with lopsided populations and that needed fixed. The only way for Blizzard to do that was increase the player pool. You either do this by merging servers which Blizzard's servers were too shitty at the time to do that, allow factions to intermingle which obviously wouldn't have been a great choice, or cross server battlegrounds, which is the option that obviously won out. I agree it did weaken server community, though. That is bad.

Here is my question: Are they going to roll everything back until the very last patch before BC?

If so this will be amazing. Manaburn, mind control, 40 man dungeons that takes a day of walking, non stop AV, everything lvl 60 is now hardmode and will actually FUCK YOU UP, Elites actually exist and are god tier mobs that will kill you if you dont know what you are doing, rogues permalocking everyone into the ground

I can go on and fucking on. As an old player that actually knew what they were doing I will LOVE to see the new wave of players that the old gen can fuck with non stop. God this will be fucking amazing. The Possibility of rage quitting the classic server will be astronomical

>>13729741

Yea BGs killed pvp back then.

>>13729816

There are going to be issues with this within the player community.

Which pre-BC patch was best patch?

Midway through Vanilla, Blizzard axed unique pet traits/attacks, among many other things. That was a huge loss imo. I wouldn't want anything past that.

Again, others might disagree so it's hard to say where Blizzard would draw the line.

>>13729824

PvP servers are kill anon. All servers are apparently the same with phasing out for pvp players.

>>13729708

while were talking first characters mine was a human warrior. All I did was go around mining stuff and making armour which was garbage but I still liked it.

only ever got to level 43 though after grinding murlocs and gnolls and centaurs and all. I still have the centaur hooves in my bank and my warrior can use crossbows.

>>13729833

I am thinking that there are two ways they can go about it. They can just act like the game just came out and over time release the patches (like you are experiencing the game as it came out, which would be funny since people like me know about each patch's bugs and will abuse the ever loving shit out of them) OR the most logical is to have the last patch be introduced at the end. I think the second choice with staggered content would be the best. As having a hunter as a first character, pets mattered so much and trying to get neat unique pets with cool skills as something that you had to have if you wanted to be worth a shit. Getting that rare pet tamed for a unique look/skill went farther than anything else. Only things I didnt like was having to worry about arrows and feeding the faggot. But it made sense. Made roleplay a bit more worthwhile for those who did it as well.

>>13728899

Hes talking about the days when Will of the forsaken was a passive. Just think about that for a while.

>>13729992

>Will of the forsaken was a passive.

It should have stayed that way, or honestly they should have made undead affected by fear so warlocks were not so useless in scholomance, and stratholme.

>>13729992

that was all the way back in beta. Though, WotF+PVPtrinket(or the blacksmith trinket) might as well been perma fear immunity, especially if you were an alliance priest.

Though that was another fun vanilla thing… being fucking worthless as a priest if you were anything besides undead or dwarf due to overpowered racial spells.

I can't remember, did warlocks get deathcoil before or during BC?

>>13730013

Warlocks had death coil before BC I think.

>>13730013

>>13730018

Death coil was something people complained about on forums a lot when I played vanilla, so yes.

>>13728872

Since Cata or Mop

>>13729811

>allow factions to intermingle which obviously wouldn't have been a great choice, or

Y tho? Since the first day I played wow I always thought it was stupid that there wasn't a mercenary faction that damns all allegiances, and just in it for the money. It makes perfect sense if you want to argue lore, there's always people or groups that are in it for themselves and none else, see the grimtotems.

>>13730076

I don't know. I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally don't want to give blizzard any money at all.

>>13730076

>paying to inevitably be banned

Would not recommend.

>>13730076

>playing horde shit

why? horde are cucks.

>>13730082

I dunno man, providing that it's not total shit to begin with, I really don't see an issue with cucking $15 shekels. I'll get literal /played days out of it and my chars wont roll back 20 levels cause some Russian fuck forgot to save cache.

Plus raiding alliance towns with Infinity Guild was fun on Nostralius, but people didn't care cause it was free and they were old school players who knew what they were getting into. Imagine all these millennial normalfags waking up to what Vanilla WoW was really like while we stand over their corpses for hours?

>>13728270

>>13728189

>>13730088

Yes, it's abundantly clear to all you're a trash newfaggot, you can leave now. wasted dub dubs

>>13730105

This to. We'd get reported faster than a jew at hitler's birthday party.

>>13729690

My first retail character was a druid because I played a mage in beta and was still butthurt that invisibility was removed, so I figured a balance Druid would be the closest thing to it.

Then the balance spec turned out to utterly suck for basically… the whole life span of the game really. Fuck moonkin form, fuck a lack of proper burst damage, fuck not having a proper interrupt that wasn't a long cool-down gimmick.

After that I tried a troll shaman which loved the fuck out of, and a human priest which I also liked until about level 55 when I made the horrible realization that it was the worse possible combination of class faction and race for doing anything in raiding or pvp, yet couldn't bring myself to do that torturous early level priest grind again.

>>13730088

Found the triggered Blizzdrone.

>>13730076

I'm all for it.

>>13730105

What are they going to do? Ban people for using a guild name "infinite?" That would be unprecedented even for Blizzard. If they did that would be the lulziest shit ever.

> Blizzard shows us we have to ban MMO hate guilds.

> by Ben Kuchera.

>>13730135

No I mean we will get banned really quickly for just being ourselves. This is acti/blizz we are talking about.

>>13730137

I don't know, I would probably play as alliance a little bit if not for the nelf fags.

>>13730137

>not calling yourself bull

>>13730138

There is nothing bannable about corpse camping, tagging low level mobs away from enemy chars, yelling REEE as you demolish Ashenvale..

Just don't go full sperg and call someone a nigger. You'll be fine.

>>13730138

see

>>13730151

Unless they plan on policing guild chat nobody is going to get banned for anything they don't plan on getting banned for.

>>13730114

It's abundantly clear that you're a fucktard Vanilla fanboy who doesn't realise it was terrible back then and it won't ever be the same.

>>13730158

just use in-game races in the place of actual races… what are they doing do? Ban an undead player for saying "gas the dwarves, faction war now!"?

>>13730171

>Ban an undead player for saying "gas the dwarves, faction war now!"?

I would say gas the nelves, and yes they would probably ban me.

>>13730183

which would be hilarious because Forsaken actually gas people.

>>13730188

Forsaken dindu nuffin that was Varimathras, demons made them do it.

>>13730193

doing anything in Southshore or Theramore would feel a little weird now.

>>13730137

>MUH PR

Nigger what? Its not muh PR to say that we would be banned if we talked as we normally do and therefore it would be stupid to give them money.

>>13727954

It should just be a divergent WoW; where it builds into WotLK and then the Dungeon Finder doesn't happen so the community and gameplay stops becoming shit because casuals have to actually start putting effort in. Also, all the lore fuckups get unwritten and they have to essentially make two sets of xpacs going forward.

>>13727182

If they make more than one tree per class viable in the end game, especially for tanking, I might come back. That's pretty much the only problem I have re-trying vanilla on private servers. I have grown to loathe MMO's that advertise being able to "do anything" but end up forcing you down one set path if you want go accomplish anything.

We'll see what they do. But then again this is Blizzard we're talking about. They'll probably fuck it up.

>>13730296

it's vanilla WoW, there was literally only one class(and one tree of that class) that could tank aside from gimmick fights where the boss spams polymorph spells to make bear druids not seem worthless.

>>13729837

That's nu-wow, Every server is a PvE server by default. Being flagged is now optional.

>>13730335

the whole swamp of sorrows felt under used as a zone.

>>13730342

>he whole swamp of sorrows felt under used as a zone.

Because aside from ST it was a fucking cancer.

All the mobs aggroed easily, they blended in with the environment so you couldn't see shit, the humanoid enemies cast nets so you'd be even more fucked, there was no graveyard so you'd walk for ages, quests were fucked up and made no sense in terms of pacing, etc.

>>13730356

that was one problem with vanilla I'd be happy to see changed, have all the unfinished zones retouched a bit. Like SoS, Ashzura, and the Blasted Lands

If /v/ does ever make a guild on classic WoW, please dont do the whole "post a meme in the thread" bullshit. Shit like that is just really really fucking gay. Its cringy, its stupid and honestly it serves no purpose but yet someone always gets the bright idea to use "post a meme" to weed out people. Planetside 2 people did that and it was probably the shittiest thing since all they got in the guild was nothing but people who spammed cringy shit in voicechat all god damn day. Its those people you dont want in.

>>13730432

I'll join if it's mainly focused on griefing, national socialism and trolling general chat.

>>13730432

The secret password is:

Garrithos did nothing wrong.

>>13730435

That shit I dont mind, but when its nothing but cringy shit like "spamming dank memes" it turns into shit fast. Ill definitely troll the shit out of trade chat like no tomorrow. Was famous on my old gorefiend server for that shit. But I dont want the guild to be nothing but people spouting internet jokes all day.

>>13730444

I wouldnt mind a password or something for thread only faggots. I just dont want to have to say things like "Give me your shekles, goyim" and other retarded shit. People went waaay too overboard with that when everyone was doing their Planetside 2 phase.

>>13730342

There were a lot of zones with wasted potential. Half of Kalimdor was fucking_nothing.jpg; who the hell ever went to Desolace or Thousand Needles or Feralas except on their way to an instance? What was in Un'Goro besides Nintendo memes, leather galore and devilsaur pets?

>>13730451

Also the funny thing is that in order to get some of those flight points you would have to go through horrible zones and quite a few of them were brutally long and dangerous because you were under level 40…meaning no fucking mount.

>>13730451

Also to answer your question: Mythril was there. Though that place before the "rebalancing" had a ton of elites that would shit over everyone trying to farm there. You would have a better time farming Plague lands.

>people defending wow as good game

What is fucking wrong with you?

>>13730076

>people planing to give money to blizzard just so they can ban you

You disgust me.

>>13730451

Thousand Needles and Desolace are my favorite zones though.

>>13730465

Thousand Needles was fun on my mage because of slow fall. I was so disappointed when they flooded Shimmering flats for Cata instead of finally adding some sort of vehicle based racing mini game to the race track.

Desolace can suck it though, that place was shit for both factions

>>13730463

I dont think anyone really said it was good but more along the lines of they enjoyed this or that.For its time it was kind of one of the only MMOs that wasnt chink shit that the majority of western people knew about. Hell I didnt know about Ragnarok until after I played WoW. The only other contender was Runescape, which was even fucking shittier. When WoW came out EQ was going out the door due to internal faggotry (really just listening to one guy bitch about shit and ruining it…which i think that same guy now works at blizzard). So im not surprised that a lot of people remember having fun in something they played a long time ago. No one is saying its good, they are saying that they had fun here and there.

>>13730487

I enjoyed Asheron's Call until the devs gave up and just catered to the endless level grind crowd to the point that they eventually had to add an alternate leveling system because the engine was hard-coded to a set max level and stats, then later had to add a *second* alternate system because people were running out of augments to do from the 1st system.

>>13730512

I think thats a problem in games. People always think that they need to "raise the cap" just like they need to "raise the spending limit" You then get a never ending cycle of people hitting that cap and people having to raise it in order for a shitty sense of progression.

If anyone has ever read Overlord and saw other games styled like that in an MMO setting , the better thing to do is not raise a level cap but instead add content. They use a level cap as justification to push through storylines and zones because people need to "Relevel". Thats a terrible way to get people to experience the zones. People like me wont give a shit, skip the text and attempt to get through to the next part. People are more concerned with leveling to where everything else takes a back seat. You should make people want to visit areas not because "its the next place in line to level" but because it can offer new experiences. Hardcaps are great. You cap the level and force the player to experience the game with new content. If your development is tailored around leveling your players instead of creating unique worlds and new challenges, your game is obviously going to be shit. Instead of worrying about leveling they can devote their efforts into customization, gameplay,quests, intricate plots and overall world dynamics. But what the fuck do I know, i just play the god damn thing.

>>13730137

They disabled the ability to make black humans back when /v/ did a raid pools closed in Stormwind. A lot of us suicided in the water, flooded stormwind with corpses of nogs.

>>13730465

Desolace was my favorite zone that didn't end with "Plaguelands."