/v/ - HAPPY HALLOWEEN

>>13696038

Yeah that's what I thought would be the answer because I never bought the fat version, I got the slim when it came out. But I'm looking into getting a fat version for modding, but first I need to know what the modding capabilities are

Fat one is an obvious pick

The PS2 laser is fucking trash so burning back ups will only work for so long.

>>13696053

Modding for what exactly?

>>13696055

I've heard some stuff about converting the PS2 to high definition and using a huge hard drive loaded with games, that's about it. Didn't know if there was more to it than that.

>>13696068

Tbh don't bother with anything that will reduce the lifespan of your console.

>>13696050

AC04, Klonoa 2, Armored Core 2, GodHand, Everblue 2, Sakura Wars SLML, Parappa 2.

>>13696038

> Slim is much more of a looker though.

The Slim is a sexy little machine. It's hard to deny that.

>>13696074

Or do because they are cheap and physical games are not forever.

>>13696026

Slim. Fat was a giant pile of shit when it came to reliability. No point having a HDD if the fucking machine doesn't work anyway.

>>13696026

I prefer the slim for additional utility via HDD. That said, mine was a refurb model, so while I've heard in the past that fats were more prone to dying, I suspect any issues mine had were worked out prior to it getting put back on the market.

>>13696151

They never worked a god damn thing out. Sounds like you won the lottery though.

Fat because you can disk hack it easily compared to the slim and it plays dvd's unlike the slim. They both use about 110 watts per hour max load of electricty so no difference there.

>>13696158

I meant more that broken/faulty parts it might have had got replaced before it got sent back to the store I got it from. I want to say I've had mine since 2011 or so and it keeps on trucking just fine, with both PS1 and PS2 discs, as well as HDD loading.

Didn't the slim have some issues with certain PS1 games?

>>13696208

Shit according to plebbit, not only were there 20 more PS1 games that wouldn't work on slim, there were 10 PS2 games that didn't work on PS2 slim.

>>13696180

Playing DVDs is what killed my first PS2.

>>13696184

The problem wasn't faults per say. It was cheap, badly designed and completely inaccessible. The shitty lasers constantly burned out, the drive bay would always end up jammed and it was impossible to clean too thanks how the overly complex design.

The Slim was basically a PS1 in terms of simplicity, thank christ..

>>13696208

There's some slight compatibility issues across a number of models, not just the slims:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

It gets a bit odd though when you see that there's some PS2 games the 75001 PS2 couldn't play.

>>13696232

>God of War

Those fucking retards. Is it any fucking wonder this country became Xbox territory.

Have a phat with an HDD and got freemcboot on my slim using the HDD.

What the fuck is with xenosagas cut scenes, holy shit. They are like 20 minutes long. I just got to the cyborg guy. I'm also trying to beat .hack but I have to grind for virus cores, and I'm at the magical level where I'm getting some truly bullshit monsters spawning. Phys immune with health regen, wew.

>>13696026

I have a slim, and it died today. RIP SCPH-700x

The slims can internally damage, and good luck getting inside the slimline PS2 models to fix that crap.

>>13696262

I bought a Slim a few days ago for less than 30 dollars from ebay. It was all scribbled by a kid but still works and came with a copy of MGS3 (the version with crappy camera)

>>13696261

Virus cores aren't too annoying in my experiences, provided you know how to make fields/dungeons that are prone to having the right size/level of enemy for what generic cores you need to progress. Admittedly you might need to look up some keywords though to save time. I will say though that G.U.'s Data Seeds are much less of a hassle, though still require setting the plot aside a few times just to get one last fucker (though Yata or Pi will usually tell you exactly where to find it).

>I'm at the magical level where I'm getting some truly bullshit monsters spawning. Phys immune with health regen, wew.

Σ Generous Bemused Virgin?

>What the fuck is with xenosagas cut scenes, holy shit. They are like 20 minutes long.

Episode III says right on the back cover that it has over eight hours of movie on it.

>>13696281

I bought a used fat a few weeks ago with Tekken Tag. It's working fine, but there's some dust in the vents in the front that I want to get rid of, but don't know how I should go about doing it.

>>13696281

RAD is awesome, when the fuck is Sandlot going to make a sequel? They are making TWO freaking EDF games at once but no RAD 2. Also it's a game literally impossible to play with KB+M as is so any possible PC release would be iffy.

>>13696026

Fat for HDD modding, though I also think it looks better. The Slim is a nice console but it doesn't have the imposing "mother fucker we're going to play video games!" look that the original PS2 has.

>>13696287

I just got a working fat PS2 today (console only) for less than that. I already have a decades old gaming library with my last additions to it being used copies of Katamari Damacy, We Love Katamari, and Ace Combat 04 (I also have a used copy of the PSX original that I got from a local thrift shop).

>>13696324

The slimline PS2 also had some really bad ventilation, which caused my Graphics processor in my slimline PS2 to take a crap. Also, the later (post-launch) fat PS2 systems were built like tanks, and the slimline PS2s had some compatibility issues if you were talking about the Japanese library of PS2 titles (one of the Initial D games was more dark than on a fat PS2 because of the shading engine, as an example).

>but it doesn't have the imposing "mother fucker we're going to play video games!" look

YOU ARE GONNA PLAY SOME VIDEOGAMES, MOTHERFUCKER!!!!

>>13696026

>Fat for me. The slims do look good, but I love everything about the fat: the weird lines along the side, the big gradient blue logo, even the size of it makes it seem like it means business. Plus HDD support, of course.

>>13696356

And the price for my used phat PS2: US$28.76, no shipping (USPS ground) from Ebay.

I've also picked up a memory card with FreeMcBoot on it since I don't have any games that are exploitable (which is why I usually looked in videogames sections of thrift stores on occasion looking for a copy of "Agent Under Fire"). The only game I have that I thought might be able to be exploited was "Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3", but then turns out that my copy was a recent reprint that introduced integrity checks.

>>13696377

Let's not forget that the ventilation on the slimline PS2 was shitty.

>>13696402

Who is this cowtits hag

>>13696402

>PS3, not phat PS2

Make a PS3 thread if you love the Playstation 3 so much.

>>13696411

No. Nice dubs though. Go make a Dreamcast thread.

Also, if you're gonna say "the phat PS2's crap", remember that the launch models were the worst, and the later ones were built like tanks.

Also, in embed related, focus on the first story.

>>13696305

Try air.

>>13696309

I picture the two games merging. They kind of already do. Piloting the mechs in EDF maintains a lot of the absurdity from RAD. Still would love a sequel. VS is some of the most fun I've had in a game, despite being dumb as hell.

>>13696427

>Implying the PS2 is male

>>13696427

>Implying the PS2 is older than the PlayStation

I have a fat one but I have to admit that the slim model was more reliable and much better of a looker. The fat model had a ton of hardware issues.

>>13696437

As I said before, the slim models had shitty ventilation, meaning things can break from overheating. However, the fat one only ever had hardware issues in the launch models. Get a SCPH-50000 if the hardware issues of the phat black PS2 worry you.

>>13696420

Correction, it was the 4th on that list.

>>13696459

Launch models usually tend to vary. Some may last, some may break as soon as you look at them funny. Also, no, your PS2 isn't a launch model as your BIOS is a Japanese v7, seemingly. the launch model for the United States was SCPH-30001 running Bios v2, Japan's launch was running on v1 of the bios with SCPH-10000 (because guess where Sony's based out of) being the first model, and SCPH-30003 for the launch in the UK, along with SCPH-30004 Europe running Bios v3.

>>13696462

The fact that shit is unalphabetized irks me. Pretty decent set of games though. How's Genji?

>>13696470

I used to keep up-to-date photos of mine, but stopped doing so as buyfag/shelf threads have become less welcome (and recurring people posting the same shelves, even if the contents of them change, can be seen as identityfagging). How much room are you lacking that you can't manage a small/medium shelving unit though? Especially one that is more vertical than horizontal/ is modular with other units (letting you use 2+ ground level or stacked)?

>>13696459

How does that tie stay on

>>13696514

It's crappy CG, now let's stop talkin gabout CG cartoons and get back to Play-Stay-Shaun.

>>13696470

I have 4 more shelves of console games about that size that I had with me when I lived in an 8x10 camper. How small a place are living in?

>>13696505

>How's Genji?

I don't know, my backlog has exceeded my desire to play games, so I'm less and less likely to ever get through any of these; especially as the real world becomes more interesting to me. They're there if I want 'em, though. Feels alright.

>>13696462

>tfw my collection is literally just 8 games because I pirate everything else

>>13696532

Well, I suppose regardless, Genji's pretty damn cheap, both the PS2 original and PS3 sequel, from what I've seen where I live. Not sure if that speaks simply to how common/low demand they are, or their quality.

>>13696459

Not as easy finding a list of specific release dates for the PS2 as it is the PS3 from what I've seen. Apparently the original three fat models (SCPH-10000/150000/18000) were Japan only and lacked the expansion bay, and the slim debuted in autumn 2004 (starting with the SCPH-700XX). I'm not sure if they kept making fats after that, but I'd wager if you have one, it was made between 2000 and 2004.

>fat one loud was loud as a truck and the disc tray would get fucked up even if very careful

>slim one would reset itself and stop reading games at random because the disc cover got loose

Neither.

>>13696147

>>13696158

I never would have known there were reliability issues with the fat. Got one on launch for Mega Man X7 and it worked for over ten years before it stopped reading discs. It's probably still fixable with a laser swap or something.

>>13696690

I got Genji because I heard good things, so it's probably a safe bet. I just decided to grab any decent (according to my research) ps2 exclusives while they were available, and have 'em if'/when I want to play them. Did the same with other consoles.

Fat for modding and slim for trips

>>13696053

Be aware that fat drives are prone to failure. Get the HDD set up quickly.

>>13696437

No it wasn't. They used the same shitty lasers in the slims.

>>13696446

Bruh, I've got a SCPH-50001 with a laser that crapped out after a couple years. Got it for free from a friend and it sat in my closet for 10 years until I put a HDD in it this spring. Might buy one of the China lasers off ebay to repair it so I can play my PS1 games. They can't be less reliable than the god-awful ones the Sonyniggers put in it.

>>13696147

The only thing that breaks on the fats are the lasers you disgenic, anorexic-loving pedonigger. Slims have the same problems plus no HDD compatibility.

I use a Sabrent IDE to USB (+sata/laptop ide) adapter and it works very well. Just have to keep in mind windows has its own issues with USB caching that if you are constantly swapping USB ports you'll have to restart your PC to reset USB cache.

>>13697847

I use an IDE to USB cable for mine. Just have to remember to plug the drive into the wall and let it spin up first before connecting it to the computer (the other way around can cause connection drops).

I need a spooky ps2 game for halloween. I got the haunting grounds but is it good and spooky?

>>13698276

Play Forbidden Siren 2.

>>13698276

yes

>>13697847

Need something like https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0VN-0003-000H5, but for IDE. I've seen them before but since IDE is dinosaur tech it might take some time searching for it.

>>13696026

>>13696147

>>13696068

Both have their issues, but modding is definitely better on the Fat.

>>13699857

The sequel is better

>>13699890

I hope so. Already on my backlog.

>>13700004

Didn't knew this game existed, looks cool. Just how many great obscure games did the PS2 had?

>>13698483

This. SMB is the way to go, I just throw ISOs on my server and play. You can even configure it to save on the SMB too.

>>13696038

mein nigger

>>13700110

This fucking game I've looked for fucking ages.

I saw it and played it, and I forgot the name.

I knew it fucking existed.

Thanks lad, it was boggling my mind for so long.

i used to buy it

>>13703144

I finished it almost three times this year.

is there any difference from the usa version?

>>13703597

>is there any difference from the usa version?

Swords of Destiny? There is no NA version.

>>13703702

>What's odd about this one is that the protagonist sounds like he's voiced by Johnny Young Basch, who works out of LA. Meaning this game may have been slated for a US release at point before Konami settled for a Euro only one.

Looking at credits listing on MG, either they only have the credits from the Japanese release or no one from the western release was credited. Wouldn't surprise me if voice actors used, even big name ones, might have gone uncredited with it.

>>13703737

>Releasing Earth Defense Force as "Monster Attack"

That has to be one of the most bland western game title changes I've heard of.

>>13703900

>Wouldn't surprise me if voice actors used, even big name ones, might have gone uncredited with it.

Must've been a non union project then.

>That has to be one of the most bland western game title changes I've heard of.

That about sums up many PAL only releases

I've always wondered why publishers for most media don't simply trawl the Internet when looking for cover art and case designs, then fire off a commission request to whosoever looks like they have the right stuff. Nope, it's always "IT CAME FROM THE DEVIANTART" on display. I hear tell this is normally because of (((nepotism))) and such.

Just a quick silly question, if I install HDD into my FAT PS2, is it safe to have it stand like in the OP picture? Or will that mess up my HDD?

>>13706129

They usually have to get permission to use certain art or get someone to make new art

>>13706242

I'm talking about when they completely redo the package art, not simply replace the text layer, and do it in the shittiest manner possible. See the recent flood of DVDs with just the bare-ass title and a shot of one of the characters on the box. Hell, look at most package designs, entirely. They intentionally hire some two-digit IQ mong to fuck around in whatever the image editing application du jour is.

>>13703995

I have to ask, what style does the actual game use? I mean, considering it came out in the PAL first, does the JP cover art look that way simply to market it better and the game itself looks like the PAL cover art, or did the PAL one opt for that western-3D look and the game's actual art better resembles the Japanese render?

>>13707454

PAL

>>13709045

Also, throw out the PS2 version of Max Payne 2. It's trash.

>>13709045

>buying old discs that are going to rot in a few years

>not just using a Fat+HDD to load your shit while having a chipmodded Slim as backup

>>13709126

If I wanted to not use the original kit I'd just play on an emulator.

I'm just being a nostalgiafag/collector

>>13709227

You also could trim some fat from your collection. Again, the ports of MP2 and Pandora are shit on PS2.

>>13709126

disc rot really won't affect DVD. They'll outlast you.

>>13709227

I do hope then that you're picking up games you're actually interested in playing (as opposed to just buying to buy), and trying to avoid paying (and thus justifying) scalper prices where possible. Though, you don't seem to have anything that would really cost too much anyhow from the looks of it.

>That Zia tag on MGS2

You Arizona or Nevada?

>>13709061

>Tekken 4

I'm not a Tekken player, I just picked it up because I wanted to see why the series has such a hardcore following when most 3D fighting games are garbo. (like the 3D Mortal Kombat, which I just have for the laughs.)

>Killzone

Like it or not it was one of the era's big sellers

>Quake 3

Mainly have it because I'm a huge Quake fan but I've played it 4 player deathmatch with some mates and it's good fun. Like a wonky PS2 version of Halo with the added glory of bhopping and railguns

>Pandora Tomorrow

Found it in a warehouse, didn't pay a dime

>>13709227

>If I wanted to not use the original kit I'd just play on an emulator.

Except that PS2 emulation is shit.

>>13709247

All of my pickups have been dirt cheap. Only things I've payed more than $20 for out of my old games collection are the consoles themselves and Nintendo games. I usually only get games that I played back in the day, which means I'll enjoy them at the least for their nostalgic significance. Anything new I get is either highly recommended or bargain bin/free.

Arizona

>>13709300

VF4 is kind of boring.

>>13709306

Yes, boring to casuals. If you want flash and less depth, you have Tekken and Soul Caliber.

>>13709338

(You)

>>13709300

>You should've known which Tekken was the best without being a Tekken player

>Fuck every Mortal Kombat game since you brought up the ones you thought were bad

>You don't play many 3D fighters do you

You don't make many friends, do you?

thicc

>>13710339

Nice argument and spacing >>>/reddit/

>friends

Where do you think you are?

>>13709278

>Arizona

To be fair, I can't speak for how the stores in Nevada are, but I thought as much. The local stores here have an assload of copies of Sons of Liberty that no one wants to buy, even at low prices, though that might be the same for any game store that stocks at least as far back as PS2. Honestly surprised they don't seem to have taken to turning down trade ins for it. Anyhow, with luck you might be able to find some otherwise pricy PS2 games cheap there (assuming the games prone to that are of actual interest to you to play). I've found a lot in the past few years and still continue to manage the occasional half or cheaper pickup there.

>>13703702

I picked up maken shao at an op shop for $2, pretty great purchase

>buy modded ps2

>can't find ios' for shit so have to buy games anyway

>find some ios' i want once in a while, download the shit out of them

>90% of the games I want to play have those old blue CD's that are incompatible with all of my blank discs

>sell modded ps2

this is the life

also not pictured there is GrimGrimoire; it's stuck in the case with Disgaea.

>>13711023

>can't find ios' for shit so have to buy games anyway

>find some ios' i want once in a while, download the shit out of them

Do you mean now, or in the past? Because between the likes of emuparadise, Nicoblog, and The ISOzone you should be able to find plenty these days.

>>13711074

>ios'

Well no wonder you can't find the PS2 games, you were looking inside iPhone OS installs for some reason

>>13711091

On second though, I'm not I'm not sure if he typoed "ISOs", or "BIOS".