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 No.996599>>996606 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

MS screwed with an update, they're fixing it, taking their time to get it right.

 No.996606

>>996599 (OP)

They need to hurry the fuck up, I want that dark theme.


 No.996637>>996640

probably cant fix the spaghetti code

fix one bug, two more pops up


 No.996640>>996643 >>996657 >>996665

>>996637

I'm curious if proprietary software tends to have better or worse software.

On one hand, they're getting paid and have quality control (in theory). On the other hand, they have deadlines.


 No.996643

>>996640

>to have better or worse software

Better or worse source code, I mean


 No.996652>>996657 >>996658

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Daily reminder:

MICROSOFT FIRED MOST OF THEIR SOFTWARE TESTERS IN 2014.

I'm not making that up. They had to cut costs after burning a fortune on the Nokia fiasco. That's why Win10 is so buggy, and why they do that telemetry thing: all regular users are now beta testers for the professional ones.


 No.996657>>996658

>>996640

Proprietary software developers don't get paid for pretty source code. Free software devs sometimes do. Try committing shitty code to linux and see how quickly linus spergs out on you.

>>996652

Nokia cost them 6 billion euros, that could hardly be the reason for them to ignore their flagship product. I'd wager it has more to do with the fact that they're now giving windows away for free, so they can't justify spending very much money on it.


 No.996658>>996659

>>996652

>fired most of their software testers in 2014

Excellent. That means they modernized their development process by automating the bulk of their monotonous tests.

>>996657

>implying that (F)OSS tends to have a more stringent code review process than proprietary

Ridiculous.


 No.996659>>996667

>>996658

>tends

This was never implied. I said *sometimes*, which is very different from always. Some maintainers will accept whatever shit you throw at them. But proprietary devs that care about source code quality beyond the most basic "does it follow the style guide"/"does it have tests" are very rare.


 No.996665

>>996640

I think it depends on the product. An embedded piece of software that could affect people's lives would have higher code quality standards than some meme game/product that aims to reach the market as soon as possible.


 No.996667>>996676 >>996754

>>996659

There was a Coverity study a few years ago demonstrating that proprietary software wins out in code quality for large projects (1M+ LoC) due to higher infrastructure and tooling budgets.

<Windows 10 LoC: 60M

Holy shit, I'm glad its proprietary.

<Linux kernel LoC: 20M

<OSS w/ CoC

I can't believe people install this shit on bare metal.


 No.996676>>996813

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 No.996754>>996813

>>996667

>linux

>small infrastructure and tooling budget

Think before you post next time


 No.996813

>>996676

No, are you retarded? There's no LoC scaling comparison in that study. Learn to read, thx

>>996754

>implying Linux has larger budget than Windows

The study wasn't limited to Linux; it found a consistent higher quality in very large proprietary projects over comparable open source ones.


 No.1001300

99 blocks of crud on the disk,

99 blocks of crud!

You patch a bug, and dump it again:

100 blocks of crud on the disk!

100 blocks of crud on the disk,

100 blocks of crud!

You patch a bug, and dump it again:

101 blocks of crud on the disk! ...


 No.1001758

>more and more bugs are getting reported despite Update 1809 re-release

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF MICRO$HIT




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