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 No.988560>>988638 >>988740 >>988836 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

can we have a general topic about stack exchange?

> ask a simple question

> 40 comments from incredulous people with the ability to block your question, all pretending not to understand the question in some kind of socratic attempt at "clarifying" it for a totally hypothetical person

This is a form of gaslighting. No wonder programmers all have imposter syndrome and don't trust their own eyes or mind.

 No.988568>>988569 >>990769

Use IRC like a normal non-normal person.


 No.988569

>>988568

IRC doesn't work either


 No.988570

Yeah, I figured out that place was shit a long time ago. I'm lucky in that Usenet was still very active when I was a clueless n00b. Now I just figure shit out on my own most of the time, because it's easier than asking questions.


 No.988591>>988606

>ask vague-ass question

>they still somehow actually managed to decode this incomprehensible drivel

>get comprehensive answers that have already half-implemented what you're trying to do

>sperg out like a brainlet


 No.988606

Post the question or >>988591 is true


 No.988633>>988835

There's lots of other stackexchanges beyong stackoverflow. Even eg the sese will have interesting programming questions and answer, beyond how do I do X in Y library.

Anyone here ever posted on ppcgse? It's completely different in concept from most other stackexchanges: you aren't begging for help, nor trying to use someone else's knowledge: someone posts a challenge, and everyone tries to come up with their best solution. You can sort questions by score to look for fun challenges, but the default sort is based on bump order, so low score things or old things don't disappear into then aether (because a code golf doesn't get shittier with age).

Another one is puzzlingse. Similar, but the author generally has a known solution in mind when they post. Generally, once the answer has been posted, it's useful only as an archive, whereas ppcg questions will continue to get better anwers years later.


 No.988638

>>988560 (OP)

Every once in a while someone makes a post about stackoverflow.com with a similar complaint, and it always turns out that the OP was a faggot, even on other websites. Post the question or we'll assume the worst.


 No.988640

stackexchange for web shotters. stackoverflow is for niggers who can't read their manuals (yes, often because their shit library has no manual)


 No.988740>>988804 >>988835 >>990888

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>>988560 (OP)

I will say this about SE: While the staff are almost entire comprised of leftist, Trump-hating, #refugeeswelcome, #metoo, #neveragain, #familiesbelongtogether, #notmypresident, pussy-hat-wearing nu-males and feminists, they've somehow managed to keep their ideological beliefs from affecting the platform itself. When you look at how utterly pozzed every other leftist-run platform is these days, it's actually rather miraculous that they've been able to pull this off.

Overall, SE is a great resource. It's far more reliable than Reddit, Expert Sexchange, Quora, or (shudder) Yahoo! Cancers. There are true professionals there ready to answer your questions for free thanks to the successful reputation system that rewards contributions.

I've never had a problem with mobs of users attacking my questions because, tbh, my questions are very-well articulated and I only post a question after I have done rigorous debugging. If you have mobs of assholes downvoting or vote-closing your questions, you're probably an snot-nosed, entitled college millennial who doesn't understand the fundamental basics of the subject matter and go to SE to have everyone explain everything to you like you're five.


 No.988804>>988835

>>988740

>they've somehow managed to keep their ideological beliefs from affecting the platform itself

I disagree, just take a look at the ips and politics ones.


 No.988835>>988841

SE network went to shit a long time ago. They grew big enough that virtue signaling and rep grinding became more valuable than contributing to the community and helping people. At this point, you'll get more useful results on plebbit than SE.

Think about it from a karma whore's point of view: If he genuinely answers your question, he will get maybe one upvote from you, and maybe a handful more from the few people who can appreciate his response. But if he posts a politically correct non-answer that every other karma whore can agree-upvote, he can get a huge amount of rep. Even getting your question deleted provides a bit of guaranteed rep for very little effort. Comment votes don't add to you rep but the sense of validation is like crack to these fuckers. So of course they will only bother properly answering extremely simple questions that anyone can relate to, anything advanced or technical is a waste of time.

Generally, frequent answerers on SE don't really want to help you with your problem. They want to play the part of the guru who supposedly has god-tier skill and understanding, but conveniently never has to demonstrate it as he only answers basic, general questions from retards. Think of "experts" that go on daytime TV to give retarded answers to retarded questions, this is what SE's top users are moving towards.

>>988633

Those are just meme SEs that don't really fit the pattern. If you look at other QA SEs like workplace etc. you will see the same pattern of wilful retardation as on SO.

Code golf seems like a boring, pointless activity to me but if you enjoy it, that SE does seem like a decent place. Puzzling IMO is shit, the questions are always autistic and gay af.

>>988740

You must not be paying attention if you think SE is not pozzed. Many years ago it used to not be pozzed, and because of the complexity of their system it's taking them longer to poz it than other sites. But it's getting there.

I agree that they have a great system, but they allowed too much fuckery with their rules and ran it into the ground. It's a textbook case of a bureaucracy clinging to irrelevant metrics simply because they're easy to measure and fucking everything up. For example their obsession with having 0 unanswered question is partly the reason why people are overzealous now with flagging as dupe/off-topic. In the SO mod's minds, closing a hard to answer question as off topic is an improvement because it keeps the # of unanswered questions low, and even a question that isn't hard to answer but may take a while is more practical to just delete. After all, they don't track any metrics of "legit questions that got unfairly deleted" and it's very hard to appeal mod actions if you're not a pretty senior mod yourself.

I disagree that plebbit is worse, though. At this point plebbit can often give you better results because they have less pointless bureaucracy and rules like "no product recommendation". The only thing SE still has is the tagging and related questions system, which makes searching easier for things like certain syntactic expressions where ordinary plaintext web search doesn't work properly.

As for the other sites, they're trash that you can safely -site from your searches, what more can you say? They marketed directly to shit users, hoping to quickly grow a userbase and rake in the add dollars. The sites are worthless as a result. SE managed to attract only non-shit users in the beginning, but became a victim of its own success as shitters discovered it around 2010 and swarmed in like locusts.

>>988804

Same for skeptics, scifi, english, workplace, academia, and many others. Besides mainstream leftism, many sections also develop their own "correct" opinions on their subject matter. These start out as rules of thumb (eg. avoid using goto), get turned into memes by retards (eg. goto is teh evulzz!) and then self-appointed opinion police starts roaming the recent questions list with an itchy flag-finger (eg. question mentions goto, delete: off-topic).


 No.988836

>>988560 (OP)

I'm sorry but I don't understand your complaint; could you please clarify what you mean by "40 comments"? Is this an exact number every time? We need to know to reproduce this behavior.

Regardless, this sounds a lot like the other topic currently in the catalog about Wikipedia, another popular website for obtaining information. I'm going to mark this as a Duplicate and close it.


 No.988837

>people are actually willing to waste their own time to answer some sell rightous twat's question online

>sperg out when they give you an answer

>instead of being polite and thanking them for even bothering.

Theres no need to be RUDE, anon.


 No.988841>>989011

>>988835

Your SE experience is nowhere near mine. I have been on there for probably 10 years now and it has been nothing but a positive experience. It has helped me greatly in not only honing my skills as a developer, but learning new skills in home improvement as I remodeled my house on my own.

I'd honestly rate it 5/5. The problems there are not to the degree that I would knock off even half a point.


 No.989011

>>988841

>t. shill for se


 No.990769

>>988568

>like a normal non-normal person

LOL. I'm going to borrow this nomenclature.


 No.990812

Stackoverflow et al is fucking over. Hashnode is far superior in every way, and you can earn XLM by creating good questions and answers.


 No.990888

>>988740

>you're probably an snot-nosed, entitled college millennial who doesn't understand the fundamental basics of the subject matter and go to SE to have everyone explain everything to you like you're five.

spoken like a true boomer cuck


 No.990899

Why do you need stack exchange when you can just post a question here?




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