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 No.988405[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

In a prior public statement, Bruce Perens put forth a legal theory where users of a certain piece of Software would be liable for contributory copyright infringement*[1]. This statement, specifically the pronouncement of such damages reachable, is predicated on a pure copyright License theory regarding the grant under-which the Linux Kernel is distributed and modified.

* (https://perens.com/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/ )

As we all know, under a contract theory, damages are quite limited regarding opensource licenses** (See the initial district court determination of Jacobsen v. Katzer) and the legal theory published by Bruce Perens, if analyzed under a contract theory regarding the GPL would become a less-than-likely scenario.

** (For this very reason, the FSF specifically drafted version 2 of the GPL to avoid language that would tend to induce a contract reading rather than a bare license construction. The FSF has maintained for decades that the GPL is a bare license and is not a contract)

It is just that utterance, added by Bruce Perens, regarding contributory copyright infringement damages reachable vis a vis the GPL version 2, that induced upwards of 70 of Open Source Security's clients to cease their business dealings with Open Source Security.

Bruce Perens has recently made known, publicly, that he currently believes in a Contract theory regarding the GPL version 2, specifically regarding the Linux Kernel. He has stated that he, infact, in the past has supplied expert testimony praying to the court for it to find that the GPL is, in fact, a contract (and not a bare (copyright) license). He has stated that the court has indeed relied on his testimony in various pleadings. ***[3]

Here, ( https://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12767438&cid=57489528 ) Bruce Perens argues that case law has overridden the esteemed Raymond Nimmer's opinion that the GPL is not a contract and is, at best, a failed contract, and likely a bare license akin to a property license. Bruce Perens further clarifies that it was his very own testimony that has convinced the court that the GPL is infact not a bare license and is instead a contract.

If these pleadings were to have occurred prior to the theory published regarding Open Source Security and its Contributor Access Agreement, that would put the lie to any suggestion that Bruce Perens in fact believed in the theory that he published at the time of publication and would instead suggest that rather than proffering his opinion regarding a matter - he was instead intentionally publishing a theory he believed to be a lie in-order to harm Open Source Security - A goal that has indeed been effected (specifically by the "Contributory Copyright Infringement" addendum).

*[1]

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https://perens.com/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/

Posted on June 28, 2017 by Bruce

Warning: Grsecurity: Potential contributory infringement and breach of contract risk for customers

***[3]

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https://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12767438&cid=57489528

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Re:Who gives a FUCK about Nimmer? (Score:2)

by Bruce Perens ( 3872 ) <bruce@perens.com> on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @09:10PM (#57489528) Homepage Journal

If lawyers were never wrong, we'd have no need for courts. Which means they're wrong half the time, or at least the adopt unsupportable arguments half of the time.

Case law has overridden him on the GPL question, thanks in part to my pro-bono testimony. But courts and lawyers still take him seriously. And me, sometimes.

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In response to:

>Who gives a FUCK about Nimmer? (Score:0)

>by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @08:30PM (#57489396)

>

>Who gives a FUCK about Nimmer?

>

>He said the GPLv2 was "not a contract" - was "at best" "a failed contract" - "has no consideration" - and thus it is a bare license revocable by >the grantor.

>

>Free Software has REJECTED this CLOWN Nimmer.

>Thus he is wrong.

>

>http://illinoisjltp.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/kumar.pdf

>http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/tech/res/987076.html

>...

 No.988654>>988692

What is Peren's endgame?


 No.988688>>988914

Don't perens know them licenses is shit if they is contracts?

Why he work against free software?


 No.988692>>988695

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>>988654

(((Bruce Perens)))


 No.988695

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>>988692

every single time


 No.988697

"Oh it's a contract.... oh I violated the terms.... oh let's calculate the economic damages for violating the contractual terms on this ... thing you gave away for free to me"

Here's your 1 dollar sir!

(If the licenses are contracts, then the courts will not let you get the nice statutory copyright infringement damages, they'll just give you contractual damages... and since you didn't ask for any money... you'll get nominal damages if you win: 1 dollar)


 No.988914

>>988688

From what I gather, he's actually attacking GRSecurity for being kikes themselves, by using trickery to get around the requirement that GRSecurity patches be distributable, despite them using a derivative work (Linux Kernel).


 No.989152

OP is a trolling fag who wants to steal and profit from Free Software. Bruce is right. GRsecurity are fags.




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