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I pray to God I never develop my `UX intuition'.

>No artistic ability because you don't have native support for the Adobe suite.

>Disgust for the cloud means you're not a team-player.

>Can't possible be an app developer without XCode and PS.

Imagine being so narrow-minded you can't POSSIBLY see another way than your own. You could literally flip every accusation he's made back on himself and claim hes useless without being pampered with the point-and-click tool set he depends upon.

Also, looking trough his videos, he strikes me as the kind of programmer that's solely in it for money, jumping like flies to shit on new frameworks.

Charlie represents the normie tech culture as a whole, but we can easily disregard his criticism as uneducated NPC speak.

Artists can do great things with dirt, they dont need "high end" tools. "Hurr durr i buy commercial solutions like candy, youre unprofessional if you dont do that".

>>981647 (OP)

>no UX intuition

Text is the universal interface and config files and source code files are easily and quickly modified with usually much more options than any UI.

Unless the user is a retarded nigger, the user experience is 100% better on a Unix system.

>>981647 (OP)

This is why we must massacre proprifags

>>981841

>artists should work with dirt because I don't want to give them proper tools

>what? all the artists went to my neighbor who has good tools for them? fuck those faggots I didn't want them anyway!

>>981647 (OP)

>I know you're not a software entrepreneur, as you would have needed full-stack development for that

Is he seriously implying that you can't develop a website without windows or macos? If his only point is a lack of photoshop you can just pay one of the millions of art school dropouts $50 to make some graphics for your site.

I'm convinced this is bait, but good bait

>>981867

You don't want to get me started on Krita and Gimp.

>can't do anything without adobe suite

>could you change background color from red to blue

<sorry can't do it, I don't have photoshop

>could you join those two videos together

<sorry I don't have premiere installed

>could you change exposure of this raw photo

<sorry I need lightroom for that

I guess art == adobe. Everyone else is just amateur. Fuck Rembrandt, he used oil paint and canvas, so he must also be an amateur.

>>981871

normies unironically believe the "art == adobe" meme

People need to STOP!!!! recommding dual boot.

BUY TWO HARD DRIVES, DO NOT DUAL BOOT

This is an ironic copypasta right?

It's clear to me from the "primarily run Linux." If you primarily ran just a kernel you couldn't do anything since you have no userspace.

>>981647 (OP)

>GIMP and KDenLive

Nothing wrong with GIMP and you can use Blender for video editing.

>>981877

No, watch the video. Ex-Google engineer btfos freetards once and for all.

>>981883

>ex

did he get fired for not being diverse enough?

This guy is live bait.

>Ex-Google TheTechLead takes you and his mechanized dog Sunny on a walk to answer your #1 question. But the answer to Life is not so simple as "Linux." Don't get me wrong -- Linux is my choice for web & database backend servers. But, don't confuse a backend for a frontend -- unless the only thing you care about are backends.

What? All the node.js frontend tools (babel, webpack, postcss, sass, ...) are on Linux, if you're doing web frontend you'll have more pain on Windows. In general it is a pain to develop anything on Windows. If he's talking about Mac he's right though; I wouldn't want to work on backend what with a laptop that catches on fire compiling FizzBuzz.

>The funny thing is, as soon as you tell me (and quite proudly, I might add) that you primarily run Linux, I already know a ton about you. I know that you have no artistic ability -- that you're not into full-stack or front-end dev (no photoshop)

GIMP, Krita, Mypaint, that other sai-like painting tool in the other thread. Photoshop was always very buggy for me.

>you're not a photographer (no lightroom),

Darkroom for Linux

>and you're not into video editing (no premiere).

kdenlive, blender editor, cinelerra (kinda shit but ok)

>I know you're not a software entrepreneur, as you would have needed full-stack development for that.

Buzzwords. What is a full-stack developer?

>I know you're not into remote collaboration with Google Drive (and Dropbox support is being ended soon).

(((WHEEZE)))

>I know you're not an iOS developer (no XCode),

On purpose. Also, how is this the fault of Linux? Ask Apple to port XCode (will never happen because vendor lock-in).

>or mobile developer at all (which generally requires Photoshop).

What? What the fuck?

>I know you haven't developed your UX intuition nor product sense.

Nice meme, but I personally can do layouts that people like.

>I know that I can't trust you to build out end-to-end features, because you'll be using low-end tools like GIMP and KDenLive rather than professional tooling.

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Your """"professional"""" tooling costs north of $2000 while my tools can do 90% of what they do for free and with freedom, if something is missing I can add it.

>Even if you dual-boot, I know you're in pain and will probably lose a bunch of data one day when some hard-drives fail and have no idea what happened.

What's the difference from Windows/Mac? It's not like harddrives wear out faster when you run Linux. Pulling shit out of his ass.

>You see that? In your search for "freedom," you have boxed yourself in like a caged rat.

no u

>But don't just let me tell you what I think I know about you, let me know what you think!

Suck my ass.

>>981647 (OP)

Oh shit! I'm a cheapskate!

I wonder where the $400 BitWig license came from...

>>981647 (OP)

>this triggers the freetard

Give me one good reason why everyone who has ever worked at a FAGMART (Facebook, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, reddit, Twitter) company shouldn't be sent into gas chambers tomorrow.

>>981925

>FAGMART

Nice meme, but that's where all the most experienced developers go to in order to receive $200k/year salary. You're proposing to gas all the best programmers instead of the company itself.

did someone say sage?

>>981827

>You could literally flip every accusation he's made back on himself and claim hes useless without being pampered with the point-and-click tool set he depends upon.

That's not how the world works. Superior tools are incredibly powerful and the reason why we aren't still living in caves and starving regularly.

Dude is far too smug, but he has a point: someone that can tolerate vi as the default text editor is probably fucked in the head.

>>981879

Have you ever actually tried to use Blender to edit videos? Yes, it's possible, but it runs like ass unless they changed something recently.

That said, it is considerably more stable than KdenLive, at least in my experience. It's a shame, too, because Kden looks like a fairly competently made tool at first glace, but crashes if you so much as sneeze on it. It'll probably be a few years before I seriously take a look at the software again.

>>981934

I suggest you join him if you suggest that ease of use of lusers translate to "more powerful".

>>981927

>most experienced

Prove that it's true for the majority. And who cares, anyway? They're slave moralities who never developped a personality and they serve people who want us dead then replaced with apes.

>>981647 (OP)

Ouch. Too bad he insulted something that retarded teens associate with their identity.

>>981647 (OP)

Somewhere, SDL is laughing at this man

>>981850

They can, not should, you moron. They can do great with paint if they want.

>>982005

What's your point? You can write great programs with just notepad. That doesn't mean you'll want to.

ROFL! Thanks OP! You are the rare occasion that is being not a fag.

Saved the video. I'll be watching it some more. Then I'll show it to my friends and they'll be all like "What's Linux!?? Go away!" and they'll be all laughing at me and then I go back to my computer.

>>982053

>techfags

>hangs out with ignoramuses

Do you enjoy being their free tech support?

>>981658

>>981845

Idiots are who we serve, and these NPCs need UX to function.

>>981827

>>981867

Nice counter-point

>>981886

Well done, right out of the park!

>>981925

> FAGMART

Wow that is a new one, don't shop at FAGMART

>>982061

Nope, if you help them once, then every time their computer breaks it is your fault.

Fuck, I almost punched my monitor when I saw this mongoloid rice nigger

>>981925

R should stand for Red Hat.

>>982128

Did Redhat go SJW/Antifa? NO.

>>982137

Are you kidding? https://www.redhat.com/fr/jobs/life/diversity

But even they were whites to the white fucking science, they still get the rope for systemd.

>>982141

*scientists

>>982157

...he's just asian.

adobe is bloat.

i'd rather use sai or something similar like some japanese paint software but if we're talking about making transparent linear/radial gradients and color eraser then I'd probably go for photoshop.

>full-stack

>never mentions bsd

full cuck*

>Even if you dual-boot, I know you're in pain and will probably lose a bunch of data one day when some hard-drives fail and have no idea what happened.

I'd agree on this one if someone's using a pre-alpha or unstable file system like that btrfs right now.

XFS is diamond solid and not even ms/mac filesystems can compete.

ext3 had issues before where people who installed certain versions were advised to complete wipe the drive due to some fucked code got into kernel upstream and if you had a fucked up kernel your ext drive might also fuck up when it coredumps

ext4 had issues during the early stages but now it is pretty ok.

one time it had issues with fucking fscking during shutdown after a certain number of boots which is dangerously silent so people tend to force shutdown then bam.

the main problem is the kernel itself defaults write cache which is pretty dangerous if you've no backup power.

the minor problem would be the lack of g sense protection for motherboards on linux which exists on most retail versions of windows or mac while on linux you either have none or install it from the repo. just pray that your hard drive have built in g sense otherwise you might wanna skip using that laptop on a bumpy roadtrip.

comparing to what linux distros offered before it is safe to assume that the moore's law curve for linux distro packages are gonna keep on getting better even surpass both mac and windows which seemingly are heading towards stagnation.

>>982170

forgot to mention that systemdick coredump when something crashes like somewhere around 2016+.

it fucking writes a gigabyte of binary log or whatever fuck useless on the drive then when you had coredumps it would writeleak something all over a crashed system which can kill the drive

>>982173

Reminder that this only happens because systemd is written in C.

With Rust this would not have happened.

>>982170

>photoshop

Literally obsolete, there's nothing it can do that Gimp can't, and Gimp will do it better!

>>982175

Rewriting badly designed software in Rust won't magically transform it into well-designed software, especially if Poettering and company are involved.

>>982182

t. someone who is not a professional designer editor

I know a shit ton of professional devs that use Linux. I don't know a single professional designer that uses GIMP.

Coming from a caged rat that managed to escape both China and Google, I take this very seriously.

>>981939

Yes, a couple of times, but I'm not good at video editing so I can't really tell if Blender is really good or really bad

>>982186

That's because people don't want change! If they just learned to use Gimp they would never go back to photoshop

So basically he's saying if you use Linux he knows you're not a designer due to lack of adobe tools. Big deal, I'm a programmer and I don't care about graphical design at all. He didn't even mention krita which is actually really nice from what macfags tell me. Remote collab with google drive? LMAO! Even my normie school friends couldn't figure that out and went right back to emailing me 500 versions of a .doc file. Only a shill would call google docs a professional remote collab tool. It doesn't even have 10% of the features office has. The true professional tool is git.

>>982213

>He thinks render farms are the same thing as the GUI editing application

lol

>>981647 (OP)

He seems to be unaware that you can download "real" OSs for free online and don't have to pay. Otherwise who cares? Run linux or don't no one really gives a shit except turbo autists

>>982116

you mean every time they forget their 4 character password

>>982224

>reading comprehension is at level of a 5 year old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovz-VvVhJIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru0tQRJ4qKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-gPD00ksxQ

>>982234

>render farms are the same thing as the editor

you still don't get it

I would rather use krita than photoshop, heh. I will not pay a monthly subscription or go through the hassle of pirating it.

>>982254

>>He thinks render farms are the same thing as the GUI editing application

<video shows GUI editing applications used by pixar running on redhat distro

<several animators using animation software on linux workstation

>>render farms are the same thing as the editor

>you still don't get it

What kind of retarded logic is this. Do you even know what a "render farm" is? Or are you just trying to use some form of mental gymnastics to get yourself out of the fact that you were wrong and linux is used by professional artists as a desktop OS? Go eat a bag of dicks.

>>981871

>could you change background color from red to blue

GIMP or Krita

>could you join those two videos together

ffmpeg or mkvmerge

I would choose the latter because mkv is superior. The big names are shit for this kind of work.

>could you change exposure of this raw photo

Any decent image editor.

The truth is that only a fool allows themselves to be locked into a single program or suite of programs.

NPCs can't truly use a computer because they don't understand that all man made things share common interfacing methods; therefore, they cannot interface with programs that differ from what they were taught.

Take M$ Word, OpenOffice Writer, and Libreoffice Writer. They have minor UI differences, but they're functionally identical.

An NPC would have to be retrained for the new program anytime their forced to change after becoming comfortable with any of the three.

>>981647 (OP)

>It's not used to run chrome to surf the internet

He worked at Google. This has to be a failed troll post.

>>982264

Look you idiot you are seeing the output of the live render. They DO NOT USE BLENDER / GIMP / ANY OTHER FOSS SHIT involving Linux to make any of the textures or models. They use the standard shit everyone else uses.

>>982264

They do all their editing with Maya and Photoshop. Renderman is just for (as the fucking name says) rendering and some basic shit.

>>982128

this tbh

>>982303

redhat is the best and most stable linux though

>I know that you have no artistic ability

<what is drawing

<what is painting

<what is sculpting

<what is dancing

<what is milkytracker

<what are instruments

<implying anything that isn't done on the cloud while drinking overpriced frappuccino isn't real art

>I know you're not a software entrepreneur, as you would have needed full-stack development for that.

<what is gimp

<what is inkscape

<implying you need photoshop for drawing shitty images

>I know you're not into remote collaboration with Google Drive

<yeah because there's git

>I know you haven't developed your UX intuition nor product sense.

<I know people who say UX will be first against the wall

>will probably lose a bunch of data one day when some hard-drives fail

<what are backups I'm not good with computers

>have no idea what happened.

<implying a linuxfag can't realize a disk failed

>In your search for "freedom," you have boxed yourself in like a caged rat.

<says the rat trying to sell jewgle drive

>>982213

>Big studios have their internal software development teams that tweak applications for their needs

I heard that about Pixar or Dreamworks where they used popular open source software and they modified it heavily, I also heard they used Linux distros they modified themselves for max rendering speed.

>>982308

>implying you need photoshop for drawing shitty images

Of course not, GIMP is perfectly enough for shit. For good images though, you need photoshop.

>>982317

Unless you're a photography business you really don't need photoshop. If you do you should hire a pro, which the vast majority of software entrepreneurs aren't.

>>982308

<what is gimp

Shit?

friendly reminder that you can run photoshop on Linux using WINE.

>>981647 (OP)

he's right you know.jpg

there is simply much more higher-quality software available on windows and mac than on linux.

"but linux software is FREE!!"

yea but if the best software only costs a week or two of your pay (even every year!) and you will use it every working day, the amount of money you save by using the shittier free option isn't really worth the frustration involved.

but-but- gimp! krita! inkscape! ....yea, those are all low-quality copies of name-brand software. They are constantly trailing in features compared to the good stuff.

I've read of lots of digital artists who tried out linux, and their exit report usually centers on two things:

1--there was lots of bugs that linux enthusiasts never mention

2--there was lots of missing features that linux enthusiasts don't even know about

GIMP is nice for free, but it isn't equivalent to Photoshop. If they put the same price tag on it as PS, nobody would pay that much for it.

the main reason to use linux at this point is that you are free of the forced-update cycle that consumer versions of windows get (and that's why he said linux is best for operating web or other file servers).

,,,

And if you dual-boot, then you can't have your linux server running all the time--so there is no reason to dual-boot, either.

<there was lots of bugs that linux enthusiasts never mention

Like what? And define "bugs"

<there was lots of missing features that linux enthusiasts don't even know about

>they used it for ten minutes and, when everything wasn't where they remember in PS, they threw a fit and blamed it on the software

>>982353

You can use photoshop on Linux baka.

>>982347

lol actually he's a multi-millionaire with japanese and english sites featuring over 2 million users everyday with a peak of 100 million users

>>982369

Not only do you seem to know a lot about this guy, you seem mighty defensive over him. Interesting.

>multi-millionaire

>japanese and english sites featuring over 2M users

>with a peak of 100 million

And he doesn't even have the basic human decency to not sperg out when a cashier doesn't have the register open yet because he showed up early? He's (you're) the worst kind of human and should be shot on sight.

As someone who works for a multibillion multi-national VFX studio, 90% of our computers are Linux. A small percentage of specialized departments use non-Linux workstations because we have to deal with awful software companies that can't port their shit to linux. There's a ton of creative software for Linux, the main assholes who refuse to cooperate and have a native Linux port is Adobe.

>>982390

Yeah my dad works at Nintendo to anon.

>>981647 (OP)

This ruined my day.

>>982284

Why are you trying to deny the fact that they do use "FOSS SHIT" in hollywood, not just for rendering? Are you perhaps an adobe shill?

CinePaint a fork of gimp has been used in production of:

Elf (2003)

Looney Tunes: Back in Action (2003)

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003)

Duplex (2003)

The Last Samurai (2003)

Showtime (2002)

Blue Crush (2002)

2 Fast 2 Furious (2003)

The Harry Potter series

Cats & Dogs (2001)

Dr. Dolittle 2 (2001)

Little Nicky (2000)

The Grinch (2000)

The 6th Day (2000)

Stuart Little (1999)

Planet of the Apes (2001)

Stuart Little 2 (2002)

Spider-Man (2002)

Blender is being used more and more in hollywood for vfx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOWzn64bOU8

Just admit that you were wrong m8. Me providing just one example of use disproves your bullshit claims.

>>982364

Photoshop compatibilty has always been ass in Linux and only passable with the earlier versions.

>>982435

While the following example doesn't directly have to do with Hollywood, it also bears noting that OBS is basically best in shop for livestreaming, even among paid options.

>>981647 (OP)

Waah Im a manlet and hitting 'install' is too hard for me

>you're not into full-stack or front-end dev (no photoshop)

>you're not a photographer (no lightroom)

>you're not into video editing (no premiere)

MEGA

KEK

This is the Absolute state of google cucks, lads.

>>982284

So you're telling me that Pixar, the company that's been running Linux on all their workstations for well over a decade now, does not use any "foss shit"? Fascinating, tell me more. Can you explain why Universal Scene Description, one of Pixar's in-house tools, is available on github under the apache license: https://github.com/PixarAnimationStudios/USD

Because that looks suspiciously similar to "foss shit". I especially like the "supported platforms" section of this github page.

>basic youtube formula is to stir up shit by repeating untruths to create a big lie, then forming drama around it

>OP is giving this dickhead views by not embedding or using a mirror

>OP is simply attempting to profit off of Adwords because he is still employed by gooooooogle

>>981647 (OP)

Saved for later distribution. This is funny af.

>>982513

Embedding or using memeplacebo#1242352 doesn't prevent it from getting views. The only correct way to post youtube videos is to create a webm, and if you can't do that then you shouldn't be posting in /tech/.

>>982347

Holy shit look at this video the guy is a total retard