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I asked stallman if he would make public the secret GNU CoC discussion and what he thought about CoCs. He ignored the bit about the private discussions but replied saying GNU would never have anything like that.
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>>975026 (OP)
Stallman's still a communist so the same people who hate linux for the new CoC should already hate GNU
▶ No.975030
RMS is based and redpilled
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>>975029
>Stallman's still a communist
prove it
Protip: you can't
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>>975031
>>975029
"Support the US Green Party"
- stallman.org
"I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter"
-interview
"20 September 2018 (Imprisoned immigrant minors)
The bully's fear agents are now holding 12,000 immigrant minors prisoner.
Some of them are children, and some are teenagers.
In the past, most of them were sent to stay with families, but cruelty suits the bully's purpose of demonizing them. "
- https://www.stallman.org/archives/2018-jul-oct.html
"20 September 2018 (Journalists and right-wing liars)
Advice to journalists about how not to be played by right-wing extremist liars."
- https://www.stallman.org/archives/2018-jul-oct.html
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>>975033
yes he's a lefty, this is known. so what?
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>>975036
if you dislike linux over the code of conduct then you should also dislike gnu
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>>975033
>Stallman's still a communist
prove it
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>>975038
GNU doesn't have a CoC though
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>>975039
>last thing cited from September 2018 20th
<hurr durr prove hes still a commie in the last 2 days
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>>975042
What you have posted doeesn't prve in the slightest that he is a commie. Kys fagg0t
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>>975040
oh my mistake, i assumed people were angry about about linus becoming a sjw or going along with sjws if you're angry about there being a CoC in general then GNU is fine
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>>975043
What would it take for you faggot? Him saying "The USSR was good" in the last week?
▶ No.975047>>975048 >>975057 >>975071
>>975044
There is nothing inherently wrong with a CoC. Look at Ruby's or Debian's CoC. Those are acceptable.
The Contributor Covenant is an unacceptable CoC.
>>975046
>What would it take for you faggot?
You made a claim. It's up to you how you prove it.
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>>975047
I know, which is why I still use FreeBSD.
▶ No.975049>>975050
>It's up to you how you prove it.
See above.
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>>975048
*hug*
>>975049
I already did. It doesn't satisfy me.
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>>975050
You're the one that is not satisfied. It's up to you to figure it out.
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>>975051
>You're the one that is not satisfied.
That's what I said.
>It's up to you to figure it out.
So you can't prove your claim.
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>>975052
I already proved it. You just cannot accept fact.
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>>975054
Ok, kiddo. Btw, you're a commie too.
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>>975047
>>975048
>They still use BSD after all the devs left because the CoC fucked them over.
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>>975056
Stay class cucked
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>>975048
FreeBSD is heavily pozzed. Also it's a bad OS.
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>>975050
I like hugs. We need more of those around
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>>975059
what does "pozzed" mean
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>>975057
What devs?
>>975059
Elaborate
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>>975058
>no argument the post
>>975061
ask your mum
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>>975061
What does "lurk moar" mean
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>>975066
i've seen it used to describe projects that have a code of conduct
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>>975067
>no argument the post 2
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>>975047
>Those are acceptable.
if you can't say gas the jews and hang all trannies niggers and faggots on the regular in commit messages then it's not an acceptable CoC
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>>975072
>no argument the post 3
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>>975074
>no argument the post 4
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>>975072
>>975074
>>975067
tor users can't upload files, stop taunting me
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>>975077
agreed. still no argument though
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>>975076
lain has new mail
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>>975075
In >>>/v/ we call posters like that (((You)))
Since they only seek attention, and don't know how to argue.
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>>975031
He might not be full communist, but if you've ever read his political notes it's pretty clear he's almost a living lefty stereotype that buys into the narrative and supports the typical sjw causes.
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>>975085
Thanks. (((You))) too.
So again, whens GNU HURD?
I want to use DKVX on it right now, while I stream DASH with ffmpeg on my machine.
▶ No.975090>>975092 >>975093 >>975119
>>975088
lefty != commie
>supports the typical sjw causes
Proof?
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>>975090
>lefty != commie
Nice try commie. I bet you think democrats are right wing.
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>>975090
>lefty != commie
true but still reason to not like GNU
>proof
https://stallman.org/
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>>975092
>commie
Proof?
>>975093
>https://stallman.org/
Quote the part where he supports SJW causes please.
▶ No.975096>>975101 >>975119
>>975088
Did you read that gamergate study that proved most of 8ch os leftleaning?
Something about meritocratic policies to submit code as libre as possible seems to allure left leaning individuals?
Isn't that strange?
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>>975095
>Quote the part where he supports SJW causes please.
literally on the front page it says support the Green Party, on the political notes it has everything else, see >>975033
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>>975096
reality has a left wing biased
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>>975099
>man does literally nothing but argue for social justice causes all day
<how is this sjw
>>975101
Ah you mean like how IQ and genetics are all just made up.
▶ No.975104>>975106 >>975109
>>975099
if you want to believe he's based and redpilled and uses gentoo go ahead
▶ No.975105
>>975026 (OP)
>Stallman suicides with six shots to the back of the head
>Suddenly CoC
Or
>Authorities state that they have a totally legit video of RMS walking into a hotel with a minor and fucking her
>gets railroaded into jail/Taiwanese exile
>suddenly CoC
Use NetBSD to be safe. It's mostly used and maintained by based Nihonjin. They're (((feminism)))-proof.
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>>975103
Ok, you are retarded. never reply to me again
>>975104
I use Arch GNU/Linux
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>>975103
>leftists don't believe in iq and genetics
keep attacking strawman please it only allows leftism to spread more easily
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>>975106
>Ok, you are retarded. never reply to me again
Still waiting for an argument.
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>>975101
And is that communist of reality?
>>975104
Didn't RMS use Trisquel on a leemote?
▶ No.975110
>>975106
never reply to me or my son ever again
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>>975107
>keep attacking strawman
Yeah man leftists just love talking about genetic differences.
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>>975033
There are certainly factions within the US Green Party that have been trying to turn it into a completely eco-socialist party in recent years, but I've never heard anyone self-proclaim themselves as communists. Likewise, Bernie Sanders is a social democrat who stopped caring about giving the workers the means of production ages again. Stallman can be comfortably described as a libertarian social democrat, not a socialist nor a communist.
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>>975112
>Sorry we are SOCIALISTS not COMMUNISTS
>Hurr durr learn the difference
▶ No.975114>>975116 >>975121
>>975112
>We just want the state to SOCIALIZE everything which is not the same thing as COMMUNALIZING everything
▶ No.975115>>975121 >>975122
>>975112
Is socialism communist?
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>>975113
>>975114
Do you have an argument somewhere?
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>>975112
it doesn't matter if he's strictly communist or not, linus and friends aren't communists and they still got CoC'd, i apologize for using the word communist in the first post, i shoud've just said leftist or sjw or something
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>>975090
>lefty != commie
Never claimed that
>Proof?
Again, read his political notes. He makes his views and political beliefs very clear.
>>975096
I'm aware of the GG twitter survey that showed most of the Reddit/Twitter GGers were left wing back in 2015 or so. It's been several years though, so it might be outdated as people's beliefs changed and such.
You don't have to be a leftyfag to oppose overblown copyright laws though, copyright is largely an unnecessary regulation that give the government restrictions on speech. Most people that buy a copyrighted work are going to buy it regardless of whether or not they can download it for free anyway. Patent law was an alright idea, but in practice doesn't really matter.
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>>975116
You never gave one to respond to.
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>>975114
>>975113
>>975115
>>975116
they're the same thing
"Socialism, Communism, or whatever one chooses to call it, by converting private property into public wealth" - Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/wilde-oscar/soul-man/
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>>975115
Marx used the words interchangeably while Lenin-influenced writers of the 20th century proclaimed communism to be the final result of an extended period of global socialism where states have withered away and money is not a thing anymore. In the latter sense, communism is a measure of socialism but socialism is not communism.
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>>975120
Oh but I did, I explained to you how the Green Party and Bernie Sanders aren't communist and thus don't support your argument.
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>>975125
I already read it. It doesn't satisfy me.
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>>975117
RMS got Codes of Conduct?
>>975119
>people's beliefs changed and such.
Interesting observation. Was this what may have happened to Linus Torvald?
And what of Richard M. Stallman?
>You don't have to be a leftyfag to oppose overblown copyright laws though
Strange that RMS requires it for his GPL enforcement.
>Most people that buy a copyrighted work are going to buy it regardless of whether or not they can download it for free anyway.
How strangely libertarian...
>>975121
Interesting. Therefore GPL code belong to the public. Not the copyright holder.
>>975122
Is RMS Marx?
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>>975128
You realize you have multiple posters laughing at your inability to form coherent logic now, right? Not even one of the other anons you've been arguing with.
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>>975138
>hurr dorr 3 = 92
<no nuu
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>>975133
Are there even any righties that stridently oppose copyright law? Seems like the ability to monopolize ideas falls squarely in rightcuck ideology.
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>>975142
>any righties that stridently oppose copyright law?
Everyone on /pol/
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>>975142
>righties that stridently oppose copyright law?
yes, ancaps
▶ No.975147>>975149
Quite obvious /trannypol/ is sperging out for some reason here. Really surprised with their restraint given that they're only posting kekistani cringe instead of BBCs.
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>>975143
i had no idea that pic of stallman existed, a hearty kek
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>>975044
>board rules are a CoC
lolno
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>>975150
>rules governing conduct
<not a code of conduct
▶ No.975155
>>975133
Maybe.
As for Stallman, his seem pretty much the same over the years.
>How strangely libertarian...
I guess that's the best way to describe my beliefs.
>>975136
and mine led me to pokemon with titties
>>975142
Spooky right-winger here, I oppose copyright law. Only good thing it does is keep your neighbor from selling pirated copies of your shitty book.
▶ No.975156
>>975153
>>975150
excuse me but what you're referring to as CoC is actually GNU/CoC or GNU'd my Cock (As I've recently started calling it) Cock is just one free part of a fully free system
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>>975136
So, RMS is a strawman?
>>975142
Strange, isn't it?
>>975146
Oh vey
>>975149
Laughed at that one. Reminds of how baloons were innovated. Damn hot air!
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>>975160
I like my Sparta extra Trojanny.
Kinda like GPL within copyright.
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>>975149
>People eating food are literally paying to not starve to death.
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>>975318
What else did you expect from commie hot takes?
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>>975026 (OP)
Good news. Gotta respect Stallman for that.
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>>975111
that tweet is so true
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>>975029
There are subtle differences between communists and bolsheviks.
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>>975029
And you are still an illiterate nigger who has never opened a single fucking book in your whole life and yet you think you know what communism or a communist is because you've watched some enlightened jewtube videos so we should already ignore any of your ignorant posts.
Stallman is based as fuck while you are just a fucking nigger.
▶ No.975754>>975824 >>975843
You know... Stallman's getting pretty old. How many years do you think he has left in him? The CIA trannies might not even need to suicide him if they have patience...
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>>975754
Stallman just needs a software upgrade, which thanks to him being all free software, can be easily done. However, everything is written in Lisp, and he won't like it if you don't use emacs.
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>>975754
Not sure but he looks pretty unhealthy. Do we know why he's got such a massive gut? Is he a binge eater or just an alcoholic?
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>>975824
>thanks to him being all free software
Ah that explains why he is such a bloated fat ass that spews autism.
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>>975750
Last I checked, Boomer were the ones making political statements on twitter like the mean anything. Not that Millenials are any better, they're pretty much the new boomers. Gen X and Z will have to clean up their mess for them.
>>975843
Probably just that along with a combination of being old and living a somewhat sedentary lifestyle
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>>975852
idk that fatty has been to pretty much every corner of the world.
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>>975026 (OP)
>>975026 (OP)
Stallman has zero personal security, the glowies will just whack him and one of the SJWs at the FSF will take over.
Cap this, it's probably going to happen soon as well.
▶ No.976143>>976160
RMS is their next target.
▶ No.976160
>>976143
He's chosen so it will be significantly harder for them to justify taking him out. Expect (((them))) to play up his atheism so the talmudic jews will give the OK.
▶ No.976202
There's been a few goes lately of removing offensive-to-tumblr jokes from Emacs. rms have told them that ain't happening.
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>>975143
cuckistanis goes in the oven
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>>975158
RMS, a commie who shoots other commie, a jew who lampshades other jews.
Even >>975033 is true, but we should play em like KKKike Corbyn and BernieBros
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▶ No.976285
Would RMS be welcome in a nazbol society?
▶ No.976294
>>975865
>We need some socialism to go with the capitalism
I.e., hurr durr socialism is government gibs. Pretty par for the course for modern Murrican social democrats, but still kind of sad to hear Stallman say stupid shit like that. Expected him to be maybe a bit better read than that. Maybe someone needs to e-mail him a copy of Wage Labour and Capital.
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>>975026 (OP)
> replied saying GNU would never have anything like that
That doesn't mean that other GNU projects are safe though.
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/contribute/
This fucking sucks, because functional package management is the future, it finally solves the problem of packages getting into each other's hair.
▶ No.976398>>976411 >>976992 >>977963
How does RMS get any coding done if he's constantly replying to emails?
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>>976386
Nix is the same concept. It has a more pointlessly complicated syntax, but it werks.
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>>976398
He doesn't code these days. His job -is- constantly replying to emails.
▶ No.976426
I've never seen a tech shitstorm like this one. Now that God's Chosen Programmer Terry A. Davis has departed our world it's obvious this plane was meant to be hell.
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>>976407
I like that Guix is using Scheme, it means you can just insert Scheme code wherever you want. For example, every package has a version, and the URL for releases is usually the same, except for the version string. You can then do something like
(package
(name "foo")
(version "1.2.3")
(origin
(url (string-append "http://libfoo/releases/libfoo" version ".tar.gz"))))
This is neat, but where it really shines is when you need to make heavy adjustments to the build system or some other "hacky" things.
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>>976468
Nix has the same system, only you usually have to change the version hash as well. Pretty neat when you want to do overlays, or update a package that's been dead for long and submit the patch to master at Shithub, which may be the only ugly thing about Nix, which you can do without jumping through shit like Debian's Central Bureaucracy
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>>976398
>Thinking (((Stallman))) or any of his tribe do any of the hard work
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>>975071
This, but unironically.
▶ No.977963
>>976398
He hasn't coded in decades. He is a community organizer or something now.
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>>975101
>left vs right
communists hate reality and nature
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>>975333
Stallman is more of a socialist than a communist anyways. Regardless of if he's either, he's clearly not a cultural Marxist. He may be diseased of the mind like all liberals, but at least he's benign.
▶ No.980109>>980133
Stallman is one of those old school commies who weren't just brown and gay nazis.
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>>975101
This is retarded. Nature is selfish. Creatures constantly fight for food and reproduction. They have no concept of sharing unless its only between their species, which is the fundamentals of National Socialism.
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>>980133
Anon, you aren't implying that Stalin was actually a good leader, are you?? Lenin was the real man.
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>>980102
>Stallman is more of a socialist than a communist anyways
Marx used both terms interchangeably.