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 No.969655[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>desktop enviroment has a nice packages

>it's all integrated with the windowmanager so it can't be used on other windowmanagers

>requires a fucking daemon process to check settings and won't allow you to customize in anyway that is externel to their tools

Why are DEs so fucking shit?

I wanted to use cinnamon panel with openbox to use some of the themes that it has.

It's not just cinnamon that does this, almost all desktop enviroments do this.

Why can't they be more like lxde and lxqt and not require such unrelated retarded shit for everything?

 No.969666>>970633

KDE is shit. I cannot use a lot of programs because they depend on bloated fat pile of shit that is KDE.


 No.969843

Stop using desktop environments, it's pretty simple.


 No.969905>>969910

Those desktop environments are the main culprit for system instability so there's a good reason why they don't allow you to customize it without their tools.

I used to experience constant freezes until I turned off 99% of the window decorations and gizmos that are included with the DE. And I've seen the same said for several very different distros ranging from Fedora to Linux Mint. If you never change a single option you probably won't have any issues but with just a bit of customization you're in a world of trouble.


 No.969910

>>969905

>I used to experience constant freezes until I turned off 99% of the window decorations and gizmos that are included with the DE.

Most likely you just had poor hardware acceleration.


 No.969948

>display manager bottlenecks everything

>have to remove it

>now thinking of creating my own display manager to have actual useful features


 No.969970>>969973

I want to do lewd things to the Ren-chon!

What is the state of Wayland and the Swaywm that's based on openbox? I'd use that if it was stable.


 No.969973

>>969970

Wayland.

Every wayland compositor has so much boilerplate, that it isn't even worth it


 No.970633

>>969666

Kwin, at least, has a debloated version that doesn't pull in 20GB worth of dependencies on the AUR iirc.




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