/tech/ - Technology★

>>Cloud storage, yeah, just like cloud based services were absolutely not hacked multiple times

but anon, that's why we have CLOUD SECURITY, yes that's right, WHAT?, n-no, i-it isn't just regular security, listen, it has the word cloud on it so it's so that means it's 8 times better.

I'm sorry, I cannot contain my urge to shitpost

>>956819

>>956844

THIS.

Some creatures will defend their version of reality to the death. Fuck telling the truth, I lie to blend in!

>>956868

<The cloud is much better!!! I can access my files from ANYWERE, and it's always on. Seriously, I even updated a spreadsheet in the club, and changed a word document while on vacation to Bora bora. It streamlines my work flow. Before, I had to email files to myself to transfer from my laptop, phone, work computer. Now I use cloud, it's much faster. I like cloud, it fits my lifestyle.

>>956797 (OP)

What are you going to do about it?

That's not the problem with cloud. Right now, you have tons of files spread across several devices. You want to harvest a lot of data, you have to hack each individual computer or device.

Imagine I have something on my computer, you really want my files. You have to find me first, find out what I'm running, etc. It's a pain in the ass.

Now imagine I have something in the cloud, you really want those files. You've already found me, I'm on a cloud provider. You know what the cloud provider is running, there's probably some CVEs out there. Not only that, but you get into the cloud, odds are you can get into several other people's files too.

Look at this cloud ownage. >>956713

You think someone could get 90GB of files off of several different computers? This was all made easier to hack because of the cloud. It's also significantly easier for governments to get access to user's files, too. Which is why you won't see them back away from the cloud, NSA, CIA, FBI, etc are all probably creaming themselves over cybersecurity shifting from

>we found the suspect, we need a warrant to get his computer to look at his files

to

>oh hey there Google, we need to look at these files from this user

<NO PROBLEM NSA HERE YOU GO!

>>956971

>oh hey there Google

Pretty sure the NSA just skips that part. I bet Google and all major cloud providers are just littered with Mossad and "glowing" agencies.

Also notice that Dropbox, GDrive and Apple iCloud refuse to perform automatic client side encryption. "This would interfere with the functionality of our services", yeah I bet it would.

>No internet? well get fukt bro.

This is slowly becoming not an issue. More people have internet access than do not, and before too long it'll be considered right next to electricity and water as basic utilities.

>but also on your internet connection (rip Kb/s bois)

Only getting better over time.

>Cloud storage, yeah, just like cloud based services were absolutely not hacked multiple times

Yeah just like enduser devices absolutely never get malware

Seriously anon you sound like people that were around in Edison and Tesla's day about how this whole electricity thing is just a meme.

>>956976

It would. How exactly does one dedupe and cache encrypted randomness? Storage is getting cheap, but it's not at the dirt-cheap levels that storing 900,000,000,001 individual encrypted copies of lolicatgirls.swf would require.

>>956797 (OP)

>>956819

>>956844

>>956868

>>956927

We've told you this multiple times.

The Cloud will consume everything. The big tech corps won this fight once and for all.

>>956966

Absolutely nothing! There is a reason we are not negotiating how to push back against the Cloud, because we can't. It's over.

>>957093

>The only people who will complain will be a small minority that will never hit the mainstream market.

Exactly why surrender is the only viable option. There will be no protest or pushback. Nothing will change this reality. As we speak, our line of thinking is being bred out, and will be replaced with a population unanimously loyal to Google. It's over.

There will come a day when powerful hardware is only sent to cloud providers. The mainframe will make its return and your usage will be monitored.

>>957225

!!!!!THIS!!!!!

I fucking swear /tech/ are the only fucking people who realize this. They fucking won.

>>957225

>There will come a day when powerful hardware is only sent to cloud providers.

Funny how some cucks think this day will never happen. Cloud gaming is already being pushed hard and will become the standard in a few years.

It is only a matter of time now before your existence is connected to Google-Amazon servers.

>>957238

>>957215

>more blackpill fud with redtext

see a therapist

>>956819

This, remember to mock normies for being normies though. They deserve it.

>>957211

>it's over

You don't have to use the cloud or subscription apps or Windows 10. Normies might not say no, but you can take a stand.

GTFO with your blackpills.

>>957494

It's one fucking autist sent here to demoralize. He does this in every thread, same posting style and everything.

>>957964

> sent here

We're not that important.

>>956797 (OP)

Protip: Centralized computing like mainframe computing is an ancient practice. What was old is new again.

Self-host your cloud

>>958164

Who says that people who like modern technology are slaves? What kind of slavery is involved in buying high-powered quick-processing computers?

>>958167

Because you don't just "like" it, you simply can't conceive being stuck without it. That's the difference between a slave and a free man.

>>958164

>All the stuff we do today was done in the past on simple 8-bit computers

I reversed some hashed steam ids out of some "anonymized" telemetry data a few weeks ago. I did so via brute-forcing the main 32 bit space used by steam ids at a billion hashes per second via hashcat. The speed of that still blows my mind. If you had told me 20 years ago I'd have the performance of 5 Cray supercomputers in my desktop that I use to play indie pixelshit I'd have laughed at you.

That's a lot of power, and it's going to end up walled off. As hardware is increasingly locked down, using GPGPU to do things like OCR on cameras pointed at screens to scrape data rather than reverse your way into the data stream will be increasingly important, and if someone like Google physically controls the GPGPU hardware they can try to prevent you from doing that when it suits their interests. Be ready for that push.

>>957116

>dedupe and cache

Do sites like Dropbox do that?

>>958172

By that logic, everything in modern society causes slavery. People use electricity to power their lights and air conditioning. People rely on plumbing for sewerage and running water. People rely on private and convenient cars to traverse the land. The majority don't conceive life without these modern conveniences, they take it for granted that our modern lifestyle isn't going away any time soon.

>>958177

>data and utilities are totally the same thing

>>958175

Terry has been using Ubuntu for ages. Where have you been?

>>958183

I've known the Terry memes for years but never really kept up with it.

>>957977

Those who are marginalized and educated are more powerful than you could possibly imagine. Don't sell yourself short.

>>956819

Pretty much this.

Normalfags and even devs nowdays care about muh convenient more than anything else.

>>958185

Power to do what? DDOS attack? Live off the land? Get arrested/killed in a blaze of murder?

>>958116

Convert the encrypted file to ascii text files no more than a few hundred K.

Take it a step further and feed the ascii output through a lorem ipsum generator.

Presto! You now have encrypted data posing as text files.

>>958200

>No, we found nothing suspicious. The text files with popular loli character names is just some Lorem, nothing to find here.

>>957211

>>957215

>>957225

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>>957238

Do you honestly even try to conceal your samefagging or are you just trolling at this point

>>956797 (OP)

>Seriously, how can people buy this kind of thinking?

People who handle end-user support for a living.

>>958177

>By that logic, everything in modern society causes slavery

not even wrong in its entireity. Before technology existed the people used the land for what tech replaced. Before plumbing existed you could go to the local river. Now the river has been built over or is polluted.. Water stops running? you're fucked.

>>958404

kys yourself

>>958367

>t. ted

The cloud offers a number of benefits for developing applications. Offloading the construction and maintenance of infrastructure allows for companies to avoid costs, particularly in scenarios where companies would have to start from nothing or if they do not currently staff the technical skills needed to create or manage such an infrastructure. Provisioning infrastructure and processing from a cloud allows for dynamic scaling as requests increase or decrease allowing for companies to only pay for the processing they actual use. This is especially useful in scenarios where there are potential spikes in usability, if configured correctly services can avoid crashing entirely. Finally by offloading work from the user and to the server applications and services can become more accessible to those without the processing capabilities for an application allowing for widespread proliferation, plenty of people do not have the latest and greatest graphics card. Finally in regards to security there's no question that cloud services are not perfect, the only question is if they are better than what a company can field themselves, and with that being said, plenty of security can be configured on these machines. In fact most cloud services do not guarantee any kind of security outside of the physical security of the machines and require that customers be responsible for their own security on any other level.

That being said, the cloud is hardly from perfect, a constant internet connection being the most obvious drawback, any service or product that expects customers who do not have a constant internet connection will have to look else where. Obviously some retards will shill whatever the newest product to come out is, but it would be foolish to pretend that there are not serious benefits to the cloud in plenty of scenarios.

>>958173

B-B-B-BUT MUH RISC V AND MUH LINOOX UR JUST A BLACKPILL SHILL >:(((((((

Glad to see that more and more people are accepting of this reality, and that there is nothing anyone can do to fight it. They won.

>>958467

Doesn't matter, because everything will be streamed from the cloud in a few years.

>>958434

Weak trolls are a diamond dozen.

>>958469

It can be fought but not with words. I hope people realize that soon.

>>958469

I NEED SEXY HOT SEXY GIRLFREND

What about those personal cloud devices that still have you create an account and sign in to access it when you don't have the app installed?

>>957238

gaming is the worst possible format for cloud services, you can expect it to fail hard and get dropped.

>>958367

shut the fuck up PINE TREE EMOJI. go back to your twitter containment cell.