/tech/ - Technology★

>>938625 (OP)

That OAuth stuff might be the work of the QUEEN program though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcl17Q0bpk

>>938625 (OP)

>POSIX is kill thanks to the influence of corporations:

POSIX was always shit do the the influence of GNU. Unix weenies will defend this.

>>938729

*due

>>standarTs

POSIX is whatever UNIX happened to be doing at the time, which makes it more of a substandard. UNIX corporations were not interested in a good OS standard or even a better UNIX, all they wanted was the least amount of work they could do to claim to be "standard."

UNIX weenies misimplement real standards, like finger, until everyone else is forced to conform with the UNIX way and bloat up their own code if they want to be "compatible" with UNIX.

       it *was* nice of British Telecom to force Sun to
   rename their white pages service to be something other
   than "yp") ...

A crying shame too.  After all, even though Sun's "yellow
pages" service was really a white pages (name lookup)
service, they should have been able to use whatever
deceptive name they wanted.  Renaming things for market
position is really a modern (not just unix) tradition:

Build a presentation manager: call it Presentation Manager...
Build a personal computer: call it The ibm Personal Computer...
Build a machine with an 8-bit byte: Define "byte" to be 8 bits...
Build a IO subroutine package: call it DOS (an OS).

But the unix weenies have refined it to a high art.
Everything must be "open" and a "standard."  Why, my company
already supports at least a dozen "standards!"

The latest Sun entry is their new "free" window system.
Their salesman called me proudly: all you need to do is send
them a thousand dollars a copy, plus pay a royalty on
programs which use it, and you can use their new free open
standard window system (called "open look" of course).

Hm, maybe I can add cons to C and call the result Lisp...

>>938625 (OP)

> standarts

Found the German.

All standards are gay. We need every man to make his own proprietary bolt and screw.

>>939027

It's every language other than English, IIRC.

>>939487

>like laser printing, windowing systems, garbage collection, mice usage, and networking

lol no. sorry lispfag you are mixing up Symbolics with Xerox Parc.

>>939493

Okay, thanks for reminding me of Xerox Parc, I retract my remark on the pioneering accomplishements of Lisp machines except for garbage collection: Lisp machines still deserve credit for that.

>>939502

Don't forget dynamic typing/lexical scope. There's also nothing on the market today with lambda as a hardware primitive.

OAuth was never good. at a conceptual level.

>>939511

>There's also nothing on the market today with lambda as a hardware primitive.

Because doing beta reduction in hardware is incredibly slow and a terrible idea.