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>On June 20th, board members of the „Zwiebelfreunde“ association in multiple German cities had their homes searched under the dubious pretence that they were „witnesses“ while their computers and storage media were confiscated. The Augsburger CCC offshoot „OpenLab“ also had to contend with a search of their premises.
https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2018/hausdurchsuchungen-bei-vereinsvorstanden-der-zwiebelfreunde-und-im-openlab-augsburg
Mozilla raid when ?
Besides shitpost this is a not good.
▶ No.938532
https://twitter.com/riseupnet/status/1014488963501953025
>If you have ever donated to Torservers, or Tails or Riseup via a European bank transaction, your data is very likely now in the hands of the German police. (IBAN account number, name of account holder, amount and date)
lol
▶ No.938533>>938991
Good. CCC deserves to die.
▶ No.938534>>938654
A Tails dev was raided too.
▶ No.938543>>940085
>>938539
>The Chaos Computer Club e. V. (CCC) is Europe's largest association of hackers. For more than thirty years we are providing information about technical and societal issues, such as surveillance, privacy, freedom of information, hacktivism, data security and many other interesting things around technology and hacking issues. As the most influential hacker collective in Europe we organize campaigns, events, lobbying and publications as well as anonymizing services and communication infrastructure. There are many hackerspaces in and around Germany which belong to or share a common bond to the CCC as stated in our hacker ethics.
▶ No.938544
>extreme left gets raided
lol
▶ No.938549>>940040 >>940085
>>938539
hacker conference which won't even let you use a soldering iron outside of a designated area.
▶ No.938552>>938680
That's weird. Are the commiefags starting to lose government sanction of their operations in Germany? I would hardly believe that, so I assume it's just a pretext to fuck up privacy infrastructure.
▶ No.938555>>938680
This is why you don't accept antifa, SJWs, and their CoCs.
▶ No.938558
I always said RiseUp was for niggers and that Mozilla should not have donated to them. They called me crazy. Who's laughing now?
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>>938534
Heads dev wasn't.
daily reminder that poettering is an asshole and cuck
▶ No.938675
RiseUp has already been touched by FBI before
▶ No.938680
>>938528 (OP)
Commies gets the gas
>>938552
>>938555
YES!
>>938563
More like RiseUp your right arm for /pol/
▶ No.938717>>938765
>>938528 (OP)
https://riseup.net/en/about-us/press/zwiebelfreunde
>On June 20th, in order to gather data on a Riseup user, our fiscal sponsor in the EU was raided by the Bavarian police. This extreme overreach included raids on several homes, a hackerspace, a social center, and a lawyer’s office. The police took all the computers, cell phones, disks, and records that they could. Several people were arrested and are now out and safe. However, as a consequence of these raids, the police have filed a number of unrelated charges.
>What caused the police-state to raise up its ugly head? In this case, the justification was a website created to organize against a rally of an extreme right political party. It seems in Bavaria, you cannot make a website that tries to get people to come protest neo-fascists without also offending the police. The website had a riseup.net email address listed for a contact, and knowing they cannot get information from Riseup, the police looked at Riseup’s donate page and found we accept donations in Europe through a non-profit organization (“Verein”) based in Germany called Zwiebelfreunde. They decided this meant that Riseup was run by this organization (it is not), and so aggressively targeted this organization.
>What does this mean for you, dear Riseup user?
>First, don’t panic. All your data stored by Riseup is still secure.
>Second, if you donated to Riseup via our European IBAN mechanism then there is a good chance the German police now have a record of your bank account number, name, amount you donated, and the date of the donation.
>Third, please join us in supporting our friends and allies at Zwiebelfreunde0. They are amazing and need your support. In the coming weeks, information will be posted to their website detailing ways that you can help.
>In solidarity,
>The Riseup Birds
<It seems in Bavaria, you cannot make a website that tries to get people to come protest neo-fascists without also offending the police.
Oof…
▶ No.938765>>938997 >>939243
>>938717
I would like to know what this website said, because I doubt it was as simple and innocent as they make it sound.
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>>938654
That 1 inactive dev?
▶ No.938991>>939036
>>938533
CCC still as a few good conference.
I just wish that the social justice was out of it.
▶ No.938997>>939008
>>938765
Police's view (according to CCC): "...interpreting the contents of a whiteboard as a bomb making manual..."
CCC's view: "basic chemical knowledge"
My blind view: protests related sites are not the place for spreading basic chemical knowledge
▶ No.939008>>939009
>>938997
That was at the "hackerspace" or whatever that got raided. As for that, my own blind guess is that they were making stuff for rioting and not for serious blowing shit up. I wonder if the website hinted to that kind of thing and that's what started this.
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>>939008
>I wonder if the website hinted to that kind of thing and that's what started this.
Mole.
▶ No.939036>>939044 >>939255
>>938991
>I just wish that the social justice was out of it.
That's entirely all that is wrong with it. Compare DEFCON with CCC and sure they both have political jokes &c. in their speeches, but DEFCON speakers leave it at one or two mostly and instead joke about the inferiorities of the designs that they are breaking. CCC, they make their presentations entirely around the politics instead of the findings.
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>>939036
> but DEFCON speakers leave it at one or two mostly and instead joke about the inferiorities of the designs that they are breaking. CCC, they make their presentations entirely around the politics instead of the findings.
This resumes it all.
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>>939044
Please let these dubs be a good omen.
▶ No.939050>>939068 >>939071
this is not a joke. this is evidence.
▶ No.939051>>939068
I also found a very dangerous demonstration of the evidence.
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>>939050
>>939051
CCC are fags, what is new?
▶ No.939071>>939076
>>939050
That's a potential butt plug device should be confiscated
▶ No.939076>>939081
>>939071
Watch the video: it's too small to be a butt plug.
▶ No.939081
>>939076
Maybe it is for your gigantic hole.
▶ No.939243>>939248 >>939279 >>939290 >>945223
>>938765
https://augsburgfuerkrawalltouristen.noblogs.org/anleitungen/
It starts out with paint bombs and goes on to throwing stones and how to best burn cars.
They were also threatening hotels who rent rooms to AfD members with a "visit" of their mob.
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>>939243
Nothing more satisfying that seeing fascists scared and crying
▶ No.939255
>>939036
DEFCON IS LITERALLY CUCKED.
▶ No.939266>>939271 >>939272 >>939292
Hey anyone remember when mozilla donated $100k to RiseUp?
▶ No.939272>>939291 >>939292
>>939266
and by "activists across the political spectrum"
>We do this by providing communication and computer resources to allies engaged in struggles against capitalism
https://riseup.net/en/about-us
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>>939243
So basically a standard european protest. You should come visit. We have lots of those.
<Someone wrote shit on blog
<Can't find IP on blog host
<Can't find IP on e-mail provider
<Raid everyone with same e-mail domain, because they must be in on it.
<Raid those who facilitate donations to stupid e-mail provider.
▶ No.939290
>>939243
Thanks, though that doesn't seem unusual, as >>939279.
▶ No.939291>>939294
>>939272
Daily reminder to avoid people who use the word “struggle” unironically.
▶ No.939292
>>939266
Yeah I remember. Apologists try to gaslight it's nonpolitical crypto community good for all and anything contrary to that is delusional. In reality it is revolutionary communist organisation tightly in bed with antifa and mission statement like this >>939272
Investigation into personal ties between Mozilla and RiseUp is greatly warranted, as it would certainly reveal it being money transfer from not just from commies to commies, but between comrades with personal ties.
I hope Thiel is reading this.
▶ No.939294>>939315
>>939291
>My Struggle
checks out.
▶ No.939296>>939297
ITT: tech enthusiasts become first-order bootlickers when their politics don't align
▶ No.939297>>939298
>>939296
What's the matter boy? The hugbox you thought was there isn't there anymore? You think you can group people under "tech enthusiasts" and make them forget how the left is abusing their power? Go stick a cheese grater up your ass.
▶ No.939298>>939299 >>939300 >>939305 >>939938
>>939297
>how the left is abusing their power
Do you seriously think Barack Obama was "left"? It's right-wing deep states that have been civil liberties-violating surveillance machines worldwide. What power does the left have?
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>>939298
It's all liberalism.
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>>939298
Noone is talking about obama, nigger.
You seem to conveniently forgotten all the shit they've been puling online the last few years.
They've been pushing people around for at least a decade, and now that they're the ones on the chopping block they want to unite and help from the communities they've been alienating.
Fuck off, and kill yourselves.
▶ No.939302>>939304 >>939306
>>939300
>they
I'm not following you.
▶ No.939304
>>939302
>I'm not following you.
So I was right, you're a mentally challenged nigger.
▶ No.939305
>>939298
>everything that I dislike is right-wing
>>>/leftypol/
▶ No.939306>>939307 >>939315
>>939302
When rightists talk of "they" as in the left at large hiveminded system level, they are always referring to The Cathedral. Since you are oblivious, you need to read this to understand: https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/04/open-letter-to-open-minded-progressives/
Chapters 1 and 2 should suffice to get the picture.
▶ No.939307>>939315 >>939350 >>939387
>>939306
>Conservatives hate the State Department, and love and cherish the Pentagon.
It needs some updating
▶ No.939315
>>939294
Turner diaries > Mein Kampf
So go fuck yourself
>>939306
The Bazaar left and the Bazaar right will work together. The Cathedral of the right is non-existent.
>>939307
Cuckservativs vs alt-right (which is part of Pentagon's most wanted ideology list), know the difference
▶ No.939350>>939742
>>939307
The idea that progressives have any love for the state department is just as funny. Liberalism is not the same as progressivism, but it's clear this author is just your typical cuckservative more interested sniffing their own farts while attacking straw men than ever picking up a book.
▶ No.939384>>939742
germany is botnet
>xdd they were lefty so it's alright that random people get v& for nothing
fuck off polniggers
>some retarded faggots at riseup are a real threat to anything so it's good thing they were v&
fuck off polniggers
▶ No.939387
>>939307
It's accurate. Progs scream bloody murder when StateDep gets less funding or is even in danger of getting less money because their kind works there and obsessively want to defund Pentagon because their kind does not work there..
▶ No.939742>>940026
>>939350
Nah, progressives likes the EU commie dicks, liberals just like to kiss Starbuck's/Apple's ass.
>>939384
Fuck off newfag >>>/cuckchan/
▶ No.939935
>>939248
exactly what one would expect from a tripfag
>>>/auschwitz/
▶ No.939938
>>939298
>What power does the left have?
It's running both the Democratic AND the Republican party for the last half century if not more, retard. Why do you think a centrist common-sense outsider like Trump is getting as much flak from supposedly "his" party as from the nominal opposition?
▶ No.940026>>940035 >>940069
>>939742
>EU
>"communist"
stop browsing the internet and read a fucking book. hell, even a physical dictionary would do you some good.
▶ No.940035>>940036 >>940038 >>940074
>>940026
Communism in theory is not communism in practice, also EU has communists parties ("The leftists") unlike the US.
▶ No.940036
>>940035
The EU runs under a black-box bureaucracy just to function as a way for business owners to import cheaper janitors. it's the most liberal bullshit in the world
▶ No.940038
>>940035
Ameriga has communist parties as well, but since third parties always get the shaft they usually cling to the DNC.
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>>938549
Sounds like someone with paranoia or someone who has been attacked.
▶ No.940069
>>940026
>even a physical dictionary would do you some good
I think it would be better if someone just hit them with it.
▶ No.940074
>>940035
The EU is simply not communist. It's easy to get confused when you look at everything, because there is a lot of confusion. Commies had this thing about liberating oppressed people according with the ideal of classless society. But muhpression is the only area where the neolib order lets them make any serious progress now, and they've been completely duped into going with it. So you may see commie faggots talking about economics along with worshipping squat brown women and gay shit. Those people may even have power and influence. But do you see collectives and common ownership everywhere? No, it's all brown women and gay shit. That fist they hold in the air is to go in someone's ass. Note that this is not a complete view of the situation.
▶ No.940077>>940079 >>940080 >>940182
When did /tech/ became this boring and retarded?
▶ No.940079>>940102
>>940077
influx of /pol/ brainlets
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>>940077
>When did /tech/ became this boring and retarded?
>Kali flag
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>>938549
>>938543
guessing it's a brain-dead safespace riddled with virtue signaling incompetent commies that chased out anyone with actual skill.
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▶ No.940111>>940118
>>940085
guessing you've never been there. There are many virtue signaling incompetent commies, lots of skilled people who can build anything that /tech/ dreams of, and even a few people who are in both groups. Quite a number of them are regulars on various imageboards, including /pol/. It's an open secret there.
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>>940111
>guessing you've never been there. There are many virtue signaling incompetent commies,
So I'm right and wrong? ok
▶ No.940136
Statement from the Tails team:
>On June 20th 2018, German police searched the homes of board members of our former fiscal sponsor Zwiebelfreunde in a coordinated raid. Zwiebelfreunde (Friends of onions in German) is a non-profit organization that supports privacy and anonymity projects and operates several Tor exit nodes.
>They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case: the operators of an anonymous website calling for protest against the far-right AfD (Alternative for Germany) party convention used an email address at Riseup, a privacy-friendly email provider to which Zwiebelfreunde facilitates donations.
>During the search, computers, storage media, personal items, bank account records, and paper receipts have been confiscated. This unfortunately means that if you have donated to Tails before October 18th 2017 using our European bank account, your data is now in the hands of the German police (IBAN account number, name of account holder, amount, and date). If you donated after this date, you donated to our new fiscal sponsor CCT and not to Zwiebelfreunde.
>According to Moritz Bartl, one of the board members, "there's a long history of police using that kind of data to investigate social structures; who's working where, who's involved in which projects, so we have to assume that they are looking into the social networks of people".
>The raid has been strongly criticized by German media and digital rights activists as being disproportionate.
>Please join us in supporting our friends at Zwiebelfreunde. We are very grateful for the support they have provided to Tails.
https://tails.boum.org/news/zwiebelfreunde_raided/index.en.html
▶ No.940144>>940148
>RiseUp is in bed with Antifa and that makes it suspect to participating in international terrorism
>nuh-uh and if it was so what lol gb2pol lol
Told ya. Too bad, CCC has always been great in my books. They need to choose apolitical route and purge their organization from radical left. If police under ultracucked Merkel government does this, it must be serious.
▶ No.940146
but free software IS communism
▶ No.940148>>940176
>>940118
Yes. You're wrong about these parts:
>brain-dead
>that chased out anyone with actual skill.
>>940144
>They need to choose apolitical route and purge their organization from radical left.
Never gonna happen, ever.
>ultracucked Merkel
Politics isn't that simple. Merkel is conservacuck, while CCC are leftist cucks. They never liked each other.
▶ No.940176>>940226
>>940148
>browning your country
>conservative
I guess she doesn't want to conserve Germany's European population.
▶ No.940182
>>940077
When the tripfags showed up.
▶ No.940226>>940453
>>940176
What do you not understand about the term 'conservacuck' (or sometimes called 'cuckservative')? Are you new here?
▶ No.940422
saged because politics thread
uh oh
Can't wait for copyright-loving McEU to start banning encryption. Thanks Christian conservatives and neoliberal-"left" dictatorcucks.
Time to strengthen i2p.
▶ No.940453
>>940226
He is implying the cucking is so hard that calling her a "cuckservative" at all is too much
▶ No.944322>>945170
Is there none on this thread talking about how many TOR nodes and bitcoin wallets were doxed because of the seizing?
Lot's of people had to move, remove their identities, etc., it disclosed a lot.
▶ No.944346>>945170
Good, sites like riseup should not be allowed to perpetuate the illusion of convenient online privacy where "good guys" can be protected but only "bad guys" are doxxed. You either have privacy or you don't.
▶ No.945170
>>944322
and nothing of value was lost.TOR is shit anyway.
see >>944346
▶ No.945223>>945224 >>950447
>>939243
I'm honestly shocked at the current state of this website. Yeah, we made racist jokes sometimes, but it was all fun, right? At the end of the day, we all voted for Obama, we all supported gay marriage, and we all opposed racist conservative christians. But now? Our entire fucking site is subverted because of fucking nazis.
The internet is OUR platform. the LIBERAL platform. Racism, sexism, misogyny, were all confirmed to be left in the past because millenials are the most left-wing generation of all time. So why in the FUCK, do we still have to deal with nazis IN TWENTY-FUCKING-EIGHTEEN? Despite how much you wanna cry about how it's just a conspiracy and a boogeyman, Russian hackers ARE real, and this site is proof. We went from one of the most liberal sites in the world to supporting Orange Fucking Hitler? Nah, that's not normal progression because people only get more liberal with age, just like how you get smarter with age.
Threads like these just show that we need MUCH more strict moderation around here. I'm sick of all of this shit. Fuck Nazis, Fuck Fascists, Fuck Hitler, Fuck Trumpf, Fuck White Pride, and FUCK REPUBLICANS. Just fucking nuke this site already.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)▶ No.945224>>945227
>>945223
Where did you find that pasta? Or is it OC?
▶ No.945227
>>945224
He found it In reddit, where he belongs.
▶ No.950368
Remember: If you think punching right is okay but this is not, you should leave.
See: Patreon, CloudFlare, PayPal, YouTube, Twitter
▶ No.950447
>>945223
> platform
That word comes from politics, right? I don't remember it being used to describe web sites, gopher sites, Usenet, BBS, or other stuff in the 90's.
▶ No.950451>>951044 >>951065
>>938528 (OP)
>Besides shitpost this is a not good.
Are you sure about that? I'd personally love to see Mozilla go down in legal hellfire for being party to communist shit.
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▶ No.951065>>951108
>>950451
>Are you sure about that?
Yes what I see as a waist of resources in free software communities is when you go away from your initial objectives. What did mozilla was simply a waist of resource like they often do. Same thing goes with gnome and the Outreachy program it's a waist of resources put into virtue signaling for diversity instead of simply looking for people who are motivated.
Yes it's not a good thing because even tho mozilla is a piece of crap it's still free/libre software, it's the only free/libre browser that is normie acceptable. We are between a rock and a hard place at the moment. Mozilla needs to get more share of user market but if they need to do so the have to be compatible with what the W3C imposes since it's going to be implemented in other browsers too. Aka eme for netflix and other crap. Mozilla is desperately trying to get more usage while google chrome was installed on computers in the ways of a malware.
What do you do when you are desperate ? imo you do like RMS and don't compromise otherwise you finish like mozilla who became a clustefuck of ideology who can not make the difference between a ten+ year old ceo's personal opinion and a public statement.
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>>951065
>even tho mozilla is a piece of crap it's still free/libre software, it's the only free/libre browser that is normie acceptable
That's a bad thing in my eyes.
It means normies get introduced to libre software and see shit that is literally worse than non-libre software on all fronts.