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Reminder that CloverOS is just Gentoo with backdoored binaries and RAT.

>>932209

reminder that u can run the 2 scripts to build it urself

>>932213

Reminder that I can install Gentoo myself, with kernel optimization and less gay flags.

>>932218

duh

>>932165 (OP)

Libre-tier camera quality OP

I've been trying to install gentoo myself but I can't figure out which options I'm supposed to enable in the kernel config to make it detect my hard drive and I can't use genkernel because the hard drive is only 14GB and the generic kernel is fucking huge i'm such a fucking brainlet brb kms

>>932229

wget http://liquorix.net/sources/4.9/config.amd64 
genkernel --kernel-config=config.amd64 all

>>932229

I doubt Linux is any bigger than ~10MByte.

>>932218

reminder that even using computers in the first place is gay as fuck.

use pen & paper and an abbacus you cia nigger.

Dictaded but not read.

>>932241

This is how you know CloverOS fags have never installed Gentoo properly

>>932241

By the time it's done compiling df reports that my hard drive has gone from 24% full to 97% full. Generic linux is unbelievably massive.

>>932246

lol what

>>932229

My genkernel kernel is 6 megabytes

<distro thread

We already have a containment board for this >>>/cloveros/

>>932165 (OP)

Remove -mmmx -mssse3 and add -march=native when you run the script for yourself.

>>932241

Just the absolute minimum kernel size is around 4MB and it isn't even necessarily bootable.

>>932281

not trusting a random nigger who runs a binhost, that shit aint even audited

Linux is gay. When are we moving to MINIX? It IS the most popular OS on x86 Intel machines.

>>932384

I understand the benefits of a microkernel, but why does it have to be *nix-like? I'm not going to say the L word, but I'd really like something different and novel.

>>932394

>I'm not going to say the L word

You mean

L I S P M A C H I N E

?

>>932384

But MINIX has software from 2015 (when they started migrating to NetBSD userland). Also, MINIX doesn't have native USB support anymore.

>>932281

genkernel works on my machine

>>934001

lol @ midget jesus necrobumping hsi own thread

go back to cuckchan faggot

>>932247

Hey retard, those are the unstripped object files from the compiling. Of course they're a few GB in size.

>>932247

?

my kernel source directory is 1.2 gigabytes.

>>934329

Why did all of chiru.no's good music go away?

Why does the kernel you use not work with my shitbox? Debian works fine.

>>935768

>FreeBSD kernel

Maybe he wants to have working drivers and doesn't care about squeezing every ounce of performance from the network?

>>932384

Yeah it's used in ur microchips spying on you with NSA computer chip surveillance machines

>>932229

>I can't figure out which options I'm supposed to enable in the kernel config

install funtoo

>>937371

I wish I had that cool of a mullet.

>>940099

>install gentoo but with no package manager

How's the -ports switch going?

>>940698

Fuck, -kits

>>940698

>gentoo but with no package manager

???

>>940779

Essentially the guy behind funtoo tried to improve portage and the way it handles repositories but instead what happened was nothing works so for months funtoo users have been without package management.

>>934385

I'd like to know this as well

There was a part of the cloverOS website that included the files in the /etc/portage/ folder but I can't find it, does anybody have it?

>>941975

Nevermind I'm a dumbfuck it's in their git repo now. Used to be on the website.

Can I use CloverOS's repo in gentoo ?

Wanna grab some prebuilt binary when I'm lazy

Any reason why it’s been a month since the gitgud repo got updated? Will it ever get another one?

Also, how easy is it to really convert this to actual gentoo with solving the shitsotrm of dependency conflicts with Perl?

>>941995

>(this is a sfw board, have the decency of spoilering such images as the rule number 2 states)

Yet somehow you still didn't have enough decency not to post a completely unrelated image in hopes that it garners more attention to your post. And somehow I still don't have enough decency to not sage my tangential post.

>>941995

>>941995

Funny enough, I've had the same problem and solved it, but you posted some bullshit attention whore hentai instead of good porn when porn wasn't even warranted.

>>941995

emerge genkernel

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge =gentoo-sources-4.17.9

wget https://liquorix.net/sources/4.17/config.amd64

CFLAGS="-flto -pipe -march=native -O3" genkernel --kernel-config=config.amd64 all

>>946273

Pretty decent review, all things considered. Doesn't go over the preinstalled packages since he's using openbox tbh I agree that FVWM is not the best choice but shows off exactly what is good about cloverOS: it's a quick and easy gentoo install that keeps things as vanilla as possible while giving good defaults. Only complaint is that he should have used menumaker to show off what's preinstalled, like xfe and wbar. However, in a distribution like this, the preinstalled applications are not the star off the show.

>>934329

neck urself trendy faggot>>934811

degenerate loli porn on desktop but not riced out?

do you even lurk?

>>946273

is that seriously nigger weed?

do you enjoy being a soyboy cuck?

do you have a personality?

>>946803

Huh. It's working now. I guess it just wasn't buffering correctly the other day

>>947393

You better still write that blog post about der jude. I know you want to.

I tried to dual boot my Win10 with CloverOS, when I was supposed to choose my WM, I choosed OpenBox and it appearead "Error fetching binhost package info from 'https://cloveros.ga' after that appeared "there are no packages to satisfy "OpenBox" and after "Please connect to the Internet", also I installed it on a partition of my sda1, wich is sda3 and I no matter how many times I reboot the computer, it loads to CloverOS, I can't even choose, please help

If you're minding wich size is my CloverOS partition, it's 225Gb

>>948563

Are you using a desktop on wire connection or a laptop with wireless?

>>948710

A laptop with wireless

Tried to boot on my Thinkpad T43, got the error that the kernel isn't i686 compatible. I guess the .iso file is 64 bit only, anyone got a 32 bit image?

Are there any benchmarks of CloverOS vs gentoo with -march=native and -O2?

>>951728

did you fix the nvidia drivers script?

>>948563

As far as booting, you'll need to run os-prober and update-grub as root. This should let the bootloader find Windows and add it to the list of possible options. As far as wifi, you'll need to use wpa_supplicant. I'm more of a fan of ceni myself, but i know there's a gui version shipped with CloverOS. So you have three choices: 1. Boot into fvwm (the default) and use the gui to connect to wifi, 2. Look up the terminal command for it, or 3. Use ethernet to get openbox and then use the gui or install something like ceni, which is ncurses but very straightforward and friendly.

>>952337

or he could just execute wpa_gui

>>952334

Is there anything wrong with

./cloveros_settings.sh 4
sudo emerge nvidia-drivers
sudo depmod "$kernelversion-gentoo"
sudo eselect opengl set nvidia
sudo eselect opencl set nvidia
sudo sh -c 'echo -e "blacklist nouveau\nblacklist vga16fb\nblacklist rivafb\nblacklist nvidiafb\nblacklist rivatv" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf'

>>952394

You updated to using a newer version of nvidia drivers

396.24 i think?

Well, the simple thing is that it doesn't work well with older generation nvidia cards.

Example would be my 750ti, if i was to run the script it would all install normally but upon restart i'd be stuck with a black screen.

I have test 390.67 drivers and they work fine, but i needed to do a lot of leg work to get them running, like getting dkms support so i can use the latest kernel.

I made a post in the end/tech/ thread about it.

>>932245

reminder that using pen & paper and an abbacus is literally gay, use a fucking aurora borealis wizard boy.

>>933394

>USB

Nothing of value was lost.

>>955393

are nvidia drivers working yet?

>>954080

unironically looks about 90 times better than the vast majority of pictures of imageboard-users that I've seen

It's cloverOS actually good for everyday use?

Just use Void stupid faggots

Are nvidia drivers working yet?

>>959503

Have they not been working?

>>959493

Source on image and character ?

>>960429

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3972979

https://chiru.no/a/booru/post/view/389

>>960395

clover only uses the latest drivers, anything legacy is a pain in the ass to get working.

Also, no dkms for some retarded reason.

>>960760

it works like gentoo does, and you can emerge dkms via overlay

>>960766

for that you'd also need the kernel headers and that requires a complete recompilation of kernel-sources using genkernel.

Cloveros doesn't keep a local version of the kernel sources so it becomes a massive pain.

Also, the script that cloveros uses to change from binary to source based is terrible.

Good advice is to not use it at all and edit the make.conf manually, otherwise you'll find yourself not being able to use the binhost at all.

>not using -fstack-protector-strong

Have fun with all those overflow vulnerabilities.

>>960763

Sorry to tell you, man, but it seems like you're at the very tip of the iceberg with this stuff. No, you won't have to mount it manually every time. I'm not sure on the specifics of CloverOS, but there are two likely issues.

1) Your drive is formatted in some Windows shit that CloverOS won't mount without drivers.

2) You need to write the drive into your fstab for it to automount.

>You have an ancient laptop that only has a floppy drive, and no USB

>You have another machine you could put data onto floppies with from USB

How do you install Clover?

>>964967

No USB boot or no no USB at all? If former, use Plop Boot Manager on floppy to workaround it. If latter, don't abuse such an old piece of hardware with Linux distros, install 386BSD or something.

>>960763

>>964840

You might have an easier time just editing your Fstab.

I think you can do it. Good luck :D

>>964974

>386BSD

good idea. thanks anon.

>>960763

You probably have nigger IQ if you can't even read the ArchWiki

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_manager_functionality#Mounting

>>960763

>Linux - nigger free by design

lel

nvidia drivers working yet?

>>967964

did you run depmod

>>967961

=DUDE=

=WEED=

=L M A O=

>>940814

Worst parts is that it could use some improvements.

But outright fiddling with portage as it is instead of making a portage2 to mess with and transition it back to the portage name when roadworthy was dumb.

>>967961

is it noticeably faster?

Alright, i'm just going to list off things that OP neglected to tell anyone about this distro.

first of all, no, you can't just simply change it to source by using their script or commenting out a few lines.

If you do that you'll get errors out the ass because this distro packages binaries built using LIBRESSL.

Something which isn't avaible in standard gentoo.

To get it working you'll need to first install layman from the binhost and then add libressl using layman -a

After that, you'll need to run pearl-cleaner another thing that op neglects to say anything about or even put into his shitty bash script.

Also, don't use his shitty bash script, it's that thing named cloveros settings.

Almost everything in their is designed to work only on OP's machines, so if you got a different setup it could end up throwing shit aloff.

Such as the previously mentioned nvidia script, it sucks and doesn't work.

Additionally, Cloveros uses a generic kernel that is provided in the most insecure mannor possible.

He just has you fucking wgeting the entire kernel off his site and he doesn't even provide the header files to go with it.

The security is a joke, he does run it with gpg, but it's almost completely fucking pointless to do so, since he's just fucking wgeting the public key every fucking time from his site as well.

So you'll probably have to run compile the kernel yourself might as fucking well build the entire thing from source at this point

The best advice i can give is to do this shit yourself and not rely on anything included here.

Just read the fucking gentoo handbook it isn't hard.

And I seriously fucking hope none of you are actually using this, not only is it binaries that are provided by some random anon with little citation to what overlays are being used.

But it's also built with VERRY insecure make opts that have been known to cause many problems in the past.

It's also, not really that lightweight.

He includes a shit ton of bloated packages for no reason straight from the base install, it's not systemd or pulseaudio bad but it's fucking cancer regardless.

CloverOS takes away from what makes gentoo a good system, the ability to lay a good base and modify it to run what you want and nothing else.

This shit is literally manjaro levels of retarded.

I'd use Gentoo but I don't want to waste my time.

>>968041

1. libressl is available in standard gentoo; python2, libevent and ffmpeg are the only three libressl overlay packages left. there's no reason to use openssl.

2. perl-cleaner has no relevance here if you know what you're doing

3. more rambling, tl;dr

4. the only two links i see are https://cloveros.ga/s/kernel.tar.xz https://cloveros.ga/s/signatures/s/kernel.tar.xz.asc neither of which are public key. it's literally the same result as emerging gentoo-sources.

5. more rambling/whining

6. can't find insecure makeopts

7. the "shit ton of bloated packages" are "aria2 xorg-server fvwm spacefm rxvt-unicode nitrogen compton nomacs sudo wpa_supplicant porthole firefox emacs gimp mpv smplayer filezilla rtorrent weechat linux-firmware alsa-utils zsh zsh-completions gentoo-zsh-completions vlgothic hack liberation-fonts nano scrot xbindkeys xinput arandr qastools slock xarchiver p7zip games-envd gparted squashfs-tools os-prober", which looks like standard functionality for a default OS install

ok i think i've lost enough brain cells from reading your post to fall asleep now

>>932165 (OP)

the fuck is flto=8 ?

I thought the flto flag does not take any parameters

>>968042

This is true for packages on the base system.

The binhost has some packages that aren't in Portage, but nothing replacing Portage. https://gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/blob/master/binhost_settings/etc/portage/package.unmask

>>968154

>libevent and ffmpeg are the only three libressl overlay packages left

They still use an overlay and there is no mention of that on the git repo.

It's anoying especially for something as core as ffmpeg.

>2. perl-cleaner has no relevance here if you know what you're doing

>if you know what you're doing it's fine

Genius.

>it's literally the same result as emerging gentoo-sources.

Except it's a binary, and it's missing the headerfiles from said gentoo-sources.

And it's being ran external from portage.

>. more rambling/whining

notabug.jpg

>can't find insecure makeopts

"-Ofast -mmmx -mssse3 -pipe -funroll-loops -flto=8 -floop-block -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -ftree-loop-distribution

Did i really need to spoon feed you? It's in the fucking OP you blind nigger.

>>968156

>This is true for packages on the base system.

Wrong.

ffmpeg is installed in base and it's built using libressl from the overlay.

Which, again, isn't mentioned on the repo.

You'd have to be a massive fucking retard to blindly trust some shady binary distro from an anon that's held together with barely functioning bash scripts with no real documentation as to what ebuilds are being used to build those binaries.

>dbus

>cuckchan branded distro

Jesus christ how embarrassing

>>975262

slowpoke.jpg

>>975264

>treating a forum like a chat room

Fuck off

>https://gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/blob/master/binhost_settings/etc/portage/package.use#L268

>bloat free

>literally has glib set to use dbus

>faggots will defend this

>>975286

>https://gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/blob/master/binhost_settings/etc/portage/package.use

>all these packages with qt5 and gtk turn on

I seriously fucking hope no one actually uses this.

>>968041

the whole point of gentoo is to customize a kernel/os tailored to your machine, cloverOS completely shits all over that concept. at least the funtoo guy actually saw the flaws in portage and attempted to fix them even if he failed. i hope no one is actually using this pos, and i hope whoever built it was able to land a job after including it on his resume because there's literally no other use for it.

>>975310

>i need my GUI software to not have GUI

>>975286

dbus support in glib is required for polkit and consolekit, which is required for not having systemd. It doesn't mean dbus has to be running

>>932165 (OP)

>was around for the start of this project

>could never get the fucking thing to boot from a USB

Does it work now?

>>975559

Why do you need consolekit or polkit though?

I've never needed those at all and my system works fine.

>>975557

>having gui software

Why isnt the download link on sourceforge.

If you cant see the source then its a botnet.