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 No.929052>>929059 >>929174 >>929214 >>929371 >>929378 >>929684 >>929747 >>929760 >>929854 >>930336 >>931010 >>931093 >>937967 >>950844 >>951578 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Since it doesn't have a thread, and it isn't going anywhere, it might as well have one. Haters gtfo.

 No.929054>>951533

Has anyone gotten any use out of those Linux distros in Windows store? What do you use them for that you couldn't do with git shell or mingw?


 No.929059>>929637

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>>929052 (OP)

You could at least have done something better with the OP, instead, you proved the retardation of Microshaft users with a one-liner thread.


 No.929061>>929440 >>929552 >>931217

imagine using an OS without a package manager


 No.929065>>950891 >>957119

Why does Windows Update take so long to do everything? I'd swear even Gentoo is faster for routine updates.


 No.929066>>929070 >>929081 >>929366 >>931141

>try to find save games

>dozens of different directories devs might have stored them in

It just works. XD


 No.929069>>929086 >>929370

Anything better than Irfanview for picture viewing and light editing? That save file dialog, shit gif animation support and nonexistant svg support are driving me nuts.


 No.929070>>929089 >>950892

>>929066

Why does MS still have no standardised system for that? Program settings too, they can be all over the fucking place or even in the registry.


 No.929081

>>929066

If your program doesn't store data in the same directory as the program itself, it's shit.


 No.929086>>929117

>>929069

Jpegview is the best image viewer for windows, bar none. Only thing it can't do are uncompressed full resolution hubble images

Unless OP is on LTSB he sucks cock, as per the usual


 No.929087


 No.929089>>929302 >>929745

>>929070

Because windows development is run by a bunch of disorganized teams with conflicting design goals and microsoft has no real leadership to make sure people work in a coordinated manner

It's fucking maddening but once you get used to dealing with regedit and gpedit you'll at least have some degree of control over the system


 No.929117

>>929086

Otherwise good after a bit of initial tweaking, but no SVG support.


 No.929132

This is unironically a /g/-tier thread


 No.929137

If Micro$oft rove rinux then why does Windows10 nuke Linux boot loaders?


 No.929174>>944599

>>929052 (OP)

>Orwellian OS

Kys


 No.929191>>929203

Windows 10 is a shit. I had made bootable flash drive with it to install on friend's computer and it couldn't haldle USB, then Windows told me to input DVD with drivers, but it didn't work. I had to write on DVD. Wonder why this is still alive - gaymes, corporations?


 No.929203>>929225

>>929191

thats because youre retarded

still win10 utter shit at least use win 7


 No.929214>>937720

>>929052 (OP)

back to /leftypol/ you corporate nigger


 No.929225

>>929203

>thats because youre retarded

I'm not. Wangblows is.

>still win10 utter shit at least use win 7

I don't use michaelsoft binbows, because GNU/Linux just works.

Also w7 will reach end of support in 2020, so enjoy your CVE and botnet


 No.929299

>Windows 10

>not Windows Server 2016 Datacenter

Are you even trying, OP? Windows Client has always been a gimped Windows Server!


 No.929302

>>929089

>Because windows development is run by a bunch of disorganized teams with conflicting design goals and microsoft has no real leadership to make sure people work in a coordinated manner

Everything M$ explained, forever.


 No.929330>>929332

as much as i dislike bloatOS it's unavoidable for some things, mainly work. i can give kudos to MS for making it free.


 No.929332

>>929330

>free

But goy, with VLMCSD KMS server emulator it has always been free! 😄


 No.929337>>930368

Open the door

Shit on the floor


 No.929360

Truly a fucking embarrassment of an OS

Linux and BSD are better at this point if it only werent for the Games

Telemetry is implanted in the OS like Borgs are running it

Deep and near impossible to get rid of

Countless issues, like stuttering in games since Creators Update


 No.929366>>930672

>>929066

>forcing devs to save in one place

What are you, a communist? Anyway, game saves should go in ProgramData.


 No.929370

>>929069

XnViewMP is unquestionably the best.


 No.929371>>929441

>>929052 (OP)

Can somebody explain to me why my company computer BSODs every time it rains? I shit you not, this happens every fucking time.


 No.929378>>929413 >>929580 >>929653

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>>929052 (OP)

Best operating system I've ever used, no joke. Takes about 15 minutes to cleanup the bloatware and telemetry, which is a fraction of the time it takes to solve anything at all on a Linux distro (was an exclusive Debian/Ubuntu/Mint user for almost 8 years). Tons of great features, too. Too many to list. Anyways, haters gonna hate.


 No.929413>>929423 >>929850

>>929378

You can never disable telemetry. Microsoft logs every single keystroke, you moron.


 No.929423>>929429 >>929555 >>929568 >>929850 >>930977

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>>929413

You can easily configure outbound rules in Windows Firewall to block telemetry and other phone-home services.

https://superuser.com/a/1253271/94138


 No.929429>>929436

>>929423

Just wait until they update Windows Firewall so that won't happen 🤔🤔🤔


 No.929436>>930001

>>929429

>b-but Windows might suck some day

Linux sucks today, right now.


 No.929440


 No.929441

>>929371

it tries to send the background rain as voice data to microsoft, too much static to package your speech properly


 No.929552

>>929061

Some of us used to maintain Unix systems in the olden days long before kiddie crutches like package managers existed.


 No.929555>>929563

>>929423

>it's easy!

>it just breaks fucking everything and requires constant maintenance!


 No.929563

>>929555

>it just breaks fucking everything and requires constant maintenance

Discussing Linux is off-topic here.


 No.929568>>929582

>>929423

Nice bloat.

Have you tried reading your router logs? or have you even tried reading your resource monitor (resmon)?

Last I checked, a seriously opsec'd windows still leaks using soap protocol or some svchost hidden process. you can put your wall of text firewall config but you can't block the entire ASN of microsoft when they own a huge fraction of the internet. nice try blocking domain names but microsoft will fallback to IP numbers and even if you block them there will be fall back IP numbers and there's like 255xN of them.

you can't touch them even with your shit ass firewall.

you could even run a firewall distro to log all the telemetry going on. it's insane. tried blocking most but then it started connecting to some chink IP and I tried to shodan it -> it fucking points to a microsoft owned IP.

no escaping the master botnet. the only way to make windows work without these telemetry is to plug it in a firewall distro then use whitelist rules to only allow shit you're doing. that's all


 No.929570

<reddit the OS


 No.929576

You can't block telemetry in a simple way without opening yourself up to getting exploited on outdated software as identifying information gets exchanged when they do updates. But it's not just W10 stealing your data, everyone is. Games especially, they steal huge amounts of information on you, often including what webpages you have open.


 No.929580>>929588

>>929378

You are pretty much me except exclusively Fedora here for many years. Skipped Win8 completely and was liek "that's it for microsoft windows, rip", as simultaneously GNOME and KDE both got really good (before GNOME went to shit) and I didn't need Win7 for anything. Things I miss from Fedora KDE spin are Gwenview, Okular, Spectacle and KColorChooser. Kdenlive for Windows also doesn't work too good, so that also. I should learn how to port thing. Everything else is better on Windows 10 and I legit don't know much of what software there even is for this after so many years off Windows.


 No.929582>>929585 >>929848

>>929568

>strawman, the post

The method I linked to doesn't block by IP or hostname. It's basically whitelisting using the built-in firewall. No 3rd party software required.


 No.929583

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one day windongs 10 managed to fill (initially reasonably sized) system partition with it's now monthly petabyte-sized service pack files to the point computer started randomly shutting down cuz windongs couldnt normally function with full os partition and, of course, resizing the partition wasn't an option anymore

other day, in middle of the fucking work day, while installing one of the petabyte-sized montly service packs on one of the computers it managed to obliterate it's own bootloader. quality.

and i also love how half of the system settings are reset to default after ('successfully') installing the monthly petabyte-sized service pack.

im on that arch (antergos) shit and just werks for personal use, but have to boot into windongs when have to do any productive /gd/ / web design work (adobe should die already, but that's an another issue).

i use server 2012 r2 if when i need to and don't want to do anything with the rolling-release perpetual-beta-tester nsa/pajeet mystery meat. also, entities that have no option to pirate literary unironically now have to pay 200 american shekels for license of an OS that has ads in it.


 No.929585

>>929582

*That is, Whitelisting by application, not by IP.


 No.929586

a thread died for this


 No.929588>>929599

>>929580

Welcome home! If you haven't already discovered it, try Windows Subsystem for Linux. It's basically Linux implemented with native winsys calls. Different Linux distros can be installed from the Windows Store. And here's a really nice terminal for it that can easily be riced: https://github.com/mintty/wsltty


 No.929599>>929606

>>929588

I noticed, but haven't figured out what exactly I need them for. They seem like a strange middle ground between virtualized systems and what I get from git shell (preconfigured mingw basically).


 No.929606>>929612 >>929689

>>929599

Not him, but its literally for Windows what WINE is for GNU/Linux, you can run Linux applications native at full speed on Windows and its less of a hack than mingw/Cygwin because it has better bash support and better native apt-get that syncs with Ubuntus repos. It is even possible to run X11 applications natively with any one of the X11 clients that have been available for Windows since forever. Just make sure the X11 client connects to localhost and in Bash export display to 0


 No.929612>>929621

>>929606

Isn't it more like virtualization than Cygwin/mingw? I want Windows utilities that work like Windows utilities, not a light VM.


 No.929621>>929629 >>929689

>>929612

It's not a VM at all. Its literally a compatibility layer. Native Linux API calls are translated to native Windows API calls on the fly


 No.929629>>929631

>>929621

So I can compile bzip2 against it and run it from within a cmd window?


 No.929631>>929689

>>929629

Yes you absolutely can. I have actually used Windows Subsystems for Linux as a cross compilation environment before for some of my other actual Linux computers


 No.929637

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>>929059

it's the same anon trolling this place with oneliner flamewar threads, just like the systemd. From interacting with it, I'm betting it's a low IQ that got triggered by being called a autistic kike or nigger and is now shitting this place up. They should turn on ID's, I bet they don't know how to cycle their IP.


 No.929653>>929659

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>>929378

>takes about 15 minutes to cleanup the bloatware and telemetry

<implying you can disable telemetry

<implying the whole thing won't be the RAM-draining bloatfest it's always been regardless

<implying this will magically get rid of all the pajeet driver installers fucking up your registry and pooing all over your partitions, requiring regular runs of botnetware such as CCleaner to keep your system running at a half-decent pace

<having to remove telemetry&bloat every time a large update hits

<having to defrag your drives because NTFS

<unable to disable or ignore updates even with some of the bloatnet removed

<piss poo UI customization

Wangblows is a fucking meme.


 No.929659

>>929653

NTFS has been self defragging since at least Windows 8 with some level of self-defrag as far back as 7.


 No.929672

I don't have any issues with 10 at home since I can rip out most of the shit parts but it's a fucking mess to work with in an office environment. Every goddamn update resets the preferred programs to the shit-ass windows default and when you change them back they even have the gall to ask "YOU SURE BUDDY?? PLZ TRY OUR RETARDED NEW EDGE BROWSER PLEAAAAASE"


 No.929684

>>929052 (OP)

Then why are you here OP? You hate yourself most, since you're using a software that "fucks you up".

Are you here just for the (you's)?


 No.929689

>>929606

>>929621

>>929631

Neat. Me personally still don't have any use for that and I've been learning to git gud with PowerShell out of curiosity (spoiler: still prefer bash). Maybe some day.


 No.929745

>>929089

>Because windows development is run by a bunch of disorganized teams with conflicting design goals and microsoft has no real leadership to make sure people work in a coordinated manner

A good read about why Windows performance is worse than others:

http://blog.zorinaq.com/i-contribute-to-the-windows-kernel-we-are-slower-than-other-oper/


 No.929747

>>929052 (OP)

How the fuck is this still on page 1?

The system performance is actually slower than w7

It forces updates

Bad everything organization

It nevers shut down anything unless you force it

The computer itself doesnt shut down, like closing a laptop

It has 'apps"

Doing piracy or other modifications is extremely annoying there

Its microsoft edge is like an inferior (((crome)))

All its privacy settings are just placebo

Its office tries to skip to your future movements but is far from accurate

And im sure there is more to complain but i avoid working with that shit as much as possible

>haters btfo

You go suck nigger cock somewhere else


 No.929760>>930004

>>929052 (OP)

>new version of windows you never wanted

>dumbed down as usual as in any new windows release

>30x the processes running at all times

>app store

>voice activation

>ads and shit in your start menu

>telemetry

>1GB RAM to do nothnig

>(((U)))EFI

>30 updates per day

>antivirus and shit running 20% CPU all the time on a $1000 laptop

fuck you


 No.929848>>929996

>>929582

>trying to firewall by whitelist

>in ring 0

>lol

>in a fucking intel/windows

>with a botnet uefi/bios

>doesn't know the fact that intel wlan/lan cards phone shit to their (((master)))

>even without running an operating system

>even with standby power (ME kind of shit)

>what is MINIX

>thinking ME is a meme

>he probably uses a vPro

heh


 No.929850>>929996

>>929423

>trump

>gif with size more than a megabyte

will you return to somethingresearch newredditfag?

> >>929413 >You can never disable telemetry. Microsoft logs every single keystroke, you moron.

This can be easily proven if you are the moron that anon's referring to which still defends (((windows))) to death

Run resmon.

Go to the network tab and see those redacted connections with * * * when you connect to any metered or not internet.

After a while type A LOT of shit and you'll see the bytes/sec increase.

Congratulations you found the keylogger.

Try watching a video, some lucky winfags would notice a 10kB/s which is basically their audio stream and snapshots.

Welcome to Orwellian OS and you are dead.


 No.929854

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>>929052 (OP)

It is unfortunate that you still have nonfree software in your computer. You need to defenestrate it (which means, either throw Windows out of the computer or throw the computer out of the window).


 No.929996>>930981

>>929850

>>929848

<haters be hatin'

The whitelisting method described does work, you can verify it with a packet sniffer. 🤦‍♂️🤣✌


 No.930001


 No.930004>>930200

>>929760

>dumbed down

in a way it opposite, since it's now a convoluted mess coming from 30 years of interface design decisions with poor foresight

by this point i can recall every arbitrarily, obscurely placed setting and regkey editing as some sort of holy scripture, but it does not necessary make it 'familiar' or 'intuitive'

they have turned the fairly nice Explorer filemanager UI into a complete clusterfuck after 7 and i found much easier teaching my mother of how to do things in Nautilus on Budgie than begin rationalizing why things are the way they are in Windows on her work computer which immediately seems to give ui-vertigo to someone tech-illiterate


 No.930200>>930308 >>930342

>>930004

PROTIP: if your mother has trouble understanding ribbon UI which has both icon and text description of what it does, and you have problems with it too, problem is genetic. Seek help in Shibuya splicer dens.


 No.930298>>930303

Windows is only good for games. Might as well just install Mint on my non gaming computers.


 No.930303>>930338

>>930298

Mint is systemd botnet


 No.930308>>930348

>>930200

could have something to do that they taught neither English, nor any sort of conceptual base behind current GUIs in 70s - early80s USSR to people who didn't have anything to do with computers..

also, Ribbon is a fucking retarded thing for laying out UI widgets in applications that have FAR less features than an office suite


 No.930336

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>>929052 (OP)

>entire thread


 No.930337>>930339

hello and sorry to bother you all.

Anyone knows that else one should get besides cortana and extension disabler?

Preparing to install Windows 10 on laptop after windows 7 install and set up made me tear my hair out.


 No.930338>>937665


 No.930339

>>930337

Sandboxie for your web browser. Blacklist all the directories you don't want your browser to be able to read from.


 No.930342>>930346 >>930549 >>937983

File (hide): 8125745f0ea4dfc⋯.png (25.41 KB, 840x270, 28:9, ui cancer.png) (h) (u)

>>930200

The ribbon is fucking cancer. You know it's bad when not even freetards will rip it off.

Take a moment to look at an example of it closely. Why are some things lightly highlighted and some strongly highlighted? Why is "Brushes" strongly highlighted like an optional selection when there are no options? Why are there dividing lines on some breakouts but not others? Why is "File" in the ribbon tab space but not a tab, why have two separate menu interfaces instead of converting File to the ribbon if it's so good? Why have a third menu interface in the window border and why is undo/redo only accessible there and not the ribbon?

This is art imitating life - we used to make shitty Microsoft UI mockups on Fark and this reminds me of them. /v/'s had the same experience with the 'fingerless glove' UI mockups becoming reality.


 No.930346>>930347 >>930549 >>937919

>>930342

>You know it's bad when not even freetards will rip it off.

Anon...


 No.930347>>930349

>>930346

It's still in the experimental dumpster, isn't it? Or did they make it mandatory?


 No.930348>>930549

>>930308

>mom is some commie mutant who survived few decades of purges and starvation and got shit commie education

>anon keeps Windows in English for her despite free language packs for most languages on earth two clicks away and blames Microsoft for making her mom confused

Yup this one's a genetic problem!


 No.930349>>930363 >>937665

>>930347

Who knows, I use vastly superior Microsoft Office 365 instead of that amateur garbage clone. Why don't you try?


 No.930363

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 No.930368

>>929337

Everyone do the dinosaur


 No.930549>>930656

>>930348

mostly everyone here have the habit of keeping windongs UI in English due to documentation / more of an ease for problem solving online / Latvian IT terminology and translations on windongs often being ridiculous machine-translated-like clusterfuck. popular linux distros and most of the applications included are translated surprisingly nicely tho.

>>930342

this. this is what i meant when i said that Ribbon is shit for simple applications. MSPaint Ribbon variant feels hamfisted and awkward to use af. and nobody asked the same to be done with Explorer.

>>930346

freetard devs are too underfunded to do it right. office, maybe even complex media production applications are where this Ribbon UI language could apply. chinamen did it right by doing 1:1 copy with WPS Office (+ giving some nice, subtle animations here and there), to bad even if it may not be botnet (still proprietary), gaanoo version is more or less abandoned. and i desperately want OneNote.


 No.930573

Why would any sane person promote a shitty proprietary OS that exercises control over its users? Someone help this idiot.


 No.930656>>930689

>>930549

OneNote ships by default in Wn10 and is actually getting axe from Office 365 with MS telling people to use that free OneNote instead.

Besides if you want OneNote, onenote.com is pretty much the Win10 version but in web. It's incredible really how same they look and work.


 No.930672

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>>929366

>enforcing guidelines is communist

>enforcing a sane, organised filesystem hierarchy is communist

Yes, let's give all the freedom to a system like Windows, so Microsoft and indie gamedevs can shit on every table they feel like. What are you, an anarchist?


 No.930689>>930711

>>930656

i know it's being axed and it's sad. it actually stood out as uniquely useful program (especially when 'non-linearly' brainstorming and collecting shit for graphic design projects). besides, windows 10 version is different, less featureful than variant that comes with office <=2016 (you could download the full 2013 one as freeware, but it isn't the case anymore). they currently force you to use (((cloud))) with the freeware downloadable onenote on older windows versions.

lately, on linux i used 2010 version for a while, because at least it worked, and too lazy/too much of a brainlet to figure out how to run office 2013 on Wine.


 No.930711

>>930689

Yeah. I hope MS brings it up to feature parity, it has improved a lot this year alone so I think they will eventually make it as good. Too much of a flagship product along with Office 365 for them to give inch to Google Keep. I don't mind cloud integration since juggling notes between phone and desktop is all I use it for, but having option to go off grid sure would be nice in case something super secret comes up that can't be stored in anything else for some reason.

MS is taking that "intelligent edge" strategy very seriously under Nadella. Latest update notification already told Windows is service, haven't seen that before.


 No.930977>>930981

>>929423

>You can easily configure outbound rules in Windows Firewall to block telemetry and other phone-home services.

No, you can't. Phone-home reporting of how many times you posted dick pics on halfchan/gayboys/ is hard coded into the kernel. Microshit has a list of about 30 urls and their no doubt owned for all eternity IP addys hard coded, and they point back to their and (((their))) we-see-all, we-own-all servers. Pro tip: They haven;t even been denying this all that hard. Ever since some /ourguy/ recorded the behaviour on his network scanner, and how it was utterly unstoppable from within winblows. So yeah.... it's the most glow in the dark nigger infested piece of software ever rammed up the public's cornhole.


 No.930981


 No.931010

>>929052 (OP)

It would be pretty cool if, when you like or dislike a background photo on the lock screen, it didnt say "this feature will work someday" years later


 No.931093>>938651

>>929052 (OP)

How do you rice this shit?


 No.931141>>931199

>>929066

>put save games in a folder inside "My Documents"

>put program files and temporary data in a hidden folder inside the user folder

The absolute state of Windows


 No.931199>>931228 >>937665

>>931141

As opposed to Linux putting user configs, caches and everything inside some arbitary folder starting with dot straight under home directory root or even not putting configs into any folder at all. Dot for hidden. Oh wait it's exactly the same if not worse since . designates hidden folder/file in every case EVEN IF YOU DO NOT WANT IT TO BE HIDDEN while in Windows you can toggle any folder visibility. The absolute state of Linux.


 No.931217>>931219

>>929061

Imagine downloading outdated packages from 2011


 No.931219>>931223

>>931217

Imagine using an OS that forcibly downloads and installs updates that you didn't request.


 No.931223>>937629

>>931219

Imagine using an OS nothing supports


 No.931224>>938235

Imagine using a computer, with all the problems that would cause


 No.931228>>931229 >>931234 >>931299 >>931357 >>931451

>>931199

1) Linux does handle the config files of other programs

2) Well behaved programs use XDG_CONFIG_HOME (~/.config)

3) Looks like you never did any shell scripting. In case you don't understand, it's simpler to use the dot scheme instead of adding some "don't ignore hidden files" flag to all coreutils/findutils/textutils

tl;dr kill yourself Windows nigger


 No.931229

>>931228

s#Linux does#Linux doesn't#


 No.931234>>931390

>>931228

>2) Well behaved programs use XDG_CONFIG_HOME (~/.config)

A very large share of Linux software is not well-behaved, because this was standardized too late. I've got a .adobe, a .audacity-beta, a few .aspell.en.*s, various .bash*s, a .cargo, a .chromium-bsu, a .dillo, a .dmrc, a .elementary (I can't even tell what it's for), a .emacs.d, a .epiphany, a .etr, and that's only the first five letters of the alphabet. It's horrible.

Programs have the option of checking for XDG_CONFIG_HOME and then falling back to ~/.config while having to check if that directory exists at all (or maybe there's even more to it, it's been a while since I read the standard). Or they could just dump a dot-file straight in the home directory, which is both simpler and easier to get right. Many programs pick the second option, even if it makes backups and navigation a pain.

>3) Looks like you never did any shell scripting. In case you don't understand, it's simpler to use the dot scheme instead of adding some "don't ignore hidden files" flag to all coreutils/findutils/textutils

I'd have to spend some time actually using a non-Unix system to be able to form a properly informed opinion, but this doesn't sound right to me.

A dot-scheme might be simpler, but that doesn't equal good. The dot convention was originally a bug in ls, promoted to a feature.

It's "simple" in the Unix way, which doesn't always imply ease of use and reliability. As it stands, I don't know how I'd tell find to ignore hidden files while handling edge cases. If I tried for a while I could figure something out with -regex, probably, but it wouldn't be pretty and it would be hard to add to an existing find invocation that already uses -regex or -name or any of their siblings for something else.

I don't think giving find an additional flag would hurt, given the number of flags it already has.

It would maybe have been possible to elegantly roll hidden files into the file permission system.


 No.931288

keep using Microsoft software goy. It is good for you.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=duaYLW7LQvg


 No.931299

>>931228

>2) Well behaved programs use XDG_CONFIG_HOME (~/.config)

>pure cancer

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html

>Lennart Poettering

What a huge surprise!


 No.931357

>>931228

>2) Well behaved programs use XDG_CONFIG_HOME (~/.config)

Well behaved programs use C:\User\username\AppData\Local

Again, how is that any different you fucking low-functioning autistic piece of shit? Post screenshot of your ls -a and lstree ~ let's see how tidy and logical it is you absolute clown.


 No.931390>>931441

>>931234

>how id tell find to ignore hidden files

Easy:

find [^.]*

This applies to all tools (eg rm)


 No.931414>>937766 >>950844 >>950952

File (hide): a490d5afdfbbbaa⋯.png (670.84 KB, 797x619, 797:619, by the power of fluff plea….png) (h) (u)

Threadly reminder that the only good version of wangblows was XP and if you think otherwise you are a faggot shill that needs to go back.


 No.931441

>>931390

Do you know how globbing works? You do understand that that only applies to files in the current directory, right? Do you understand what find is for?

How would I use find to recursively find files in the current directory, skipping hidden files, in a way that easily combines with any other valid combination of flags that doesn't yet take hidden files into account?


 No.931451

>>931228

>muh shell scripting

On PowerShell you simply do this to get a grip of hidden files for further processing:

get-childItem -hidden

Vastly superior to dicking with file names to achieve pseudo invisibility, which you then need to pipe through some regex spell that you will bing every time because you use it so rarely.

Full list of get-childtem options, you can easily filter by any property available:


NAME
Get-ChildItem

SYNOPSIS
Gets the files and folders in a file system drive.


SYNTAX
Get-ChildItem [[-Filter] <String>] [-Attributes {ReadOnly | Hidden | System | Directory | Archive | Device | Normal | Temporary | SparseFile | ReparsePoint |
Compressed | Offline | NotContentIndexed | Encrypted | IntegrityStream | NoScrubData}] [-Depth <UInt32>] [-Directory] [-Exclude <String[]>] [-File] [-Force]
[-Hidden] [-Include <String[]>] -LiteralPath <String[]> [-Name] [-ReadOnly] [-Recurse] [-System] [-UseTransaction] [<CommonParameters>]

Get-ChildItem [[-Path] <String[]>] [[-Filter] <String>] [-Attributes {ReadOnly | Hidden | System | Directory | Archive | Device | Normal | Temporary |
SparseFile | ReparsePoint | Compressed | Offline | NotContentIndexed | Encrypted | IntegrityStream | NoScrubData}] [-Depth <UInt32>] [-Directory] [-Exclude
<String[]>] [-File] [-Force] [-Hidden] [-Include <String[]>] [-Name] [-ReadOnly] [-Recurse] [-System] [-UseTransaction] [<CommonParameters>]

Get-ChildItem [-Attributes <FileAttributes]>] [-Directory] [-File] [-Force] [-Hidden] [-ReadOnly] [-System] [-UseTransaction] [<CommonParameters>]


 No.931534>>931537

Are those 10€ keys from amazon trustworthy or should i just pay M$ 150€ for a download link?

Also, what's a botnet? I don't really care if they get my infos.


 No.931537

>>931534

botnet /ˈbɒtnɛt/ (noun)

1. (Internet, computer security) A collection of compromised computers that is gradually built up and then unleashed as a DDOS attack or used to send very large quantities of spam.

2. (on /tech/) Any corporate software, network, or system that sends and receives information to/from an untrusted third party (i.e. all of them).

Get your Windows 10 keys from https://www.gentoo.org/

Just follow instructions available at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page


 No.931545

>windows 10 long term support BUSINESS

>no linux (gnu in fact) subsystem support - too beta

holy SHIT if people use beta software they AGREE to have possible bugs

what is this business version if a very useful feature that could have countless uses in enterprise environment is excluded

fuck you microsoft


 No.937629

>>931223

-apple

-valve

-microsoft

-google


 No.937640>>937666

>fall for the WSL meme

>run code using sqlite on WSL

>everything gets corrupted to fuck, valuable data destroyed

>look into why

>fcntl locking is broken on WSL

>known issue for over a year and no patch; https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/1927

Great fucking job, Microsoft.


 No.937665>>937679 >>937764 >>938007

>>930338

It will in a future release. They've been saying they're going SystemD for awhile now. Devuan is simple enough now for mint fags to jump ship.

>>930349

I've seen a few businesses running LibreOffice. I asked the IT at one business and they mentioned something about 365 screwing the company out off too much money per machine every year.

>>931199

Are you retarded or something? Linux is the most clean implementation of a user directory around. Windows is a piece of shit, I want to access shit like AppData or other shit I can't just click "My Documents", no I have to open up C, then users, then the user name, and then hope the fucking thing put it somewhere organized. There's no shortcut because Windows is a piece of shit.


 No.937666

>>937640

WSL filesystem quirks are an annoyance. It works best as a client shell.


 No.937679>>937983

>>937665

>I've seen a few businesses running LibreOffice. I asked the IT at one business and they mentioned something about 365 screwing the company out off too much money per machine every year.

Office price is ridiculously small with business licensing. My wage is larger before lunch time than year of Office 365.


 No.937720>>937770

File (hide): 5a0a7cd85263e81⋯.png (725.27 KB, 847x475, 847:475, you&#039;re a terrible per….png) (h) (u)

>>929214

>leftypol

>corporate

Are you retarded or something?


 No.937764

>>937665

%appdata%

%localappdata%

%userprofile%


 No.937766

>>931414

>XP

>not 2000

xD


 No.937770>>937865

>>937720

>The board funded by George Soros is not corporate


 No.937865>>937963 >>950980

>>937770

>Soros is left-wing

This might explain why he financed far-right Ukrainian groups and anti-Communist activists of the Eastern bloc


 No.937892

Any nigger can remote in general


 No.937919

>>930346

>open office doesnt use ribbon

this is now very sad


 No.937963>>937982

>>937865

Jews play both sides. Soros's goal is breaking down other cultures while enriching himself trading against currencies of the nations damaged. There is no left or right to him personally, only Jew and non-Jew. He champions the American left as they are the most effective tool to spread degeneracy.


 No.937967>>938131

>>929052 (OP)

Windows 10 good for torrenting windows 7 or linux thats it


 No.937982

>>937963

Soros is a US State Department lightning rod


 No.937983>>938003

>>937683

Apparently it is now an option at installation.

https://devuan.org/os/

>>937679

365 requires you to pay 5$ a computer every year, after a few years that cost adds up. Before you could purchase the Non-Cloud version for $500 for multiple machines and get 10 years support. It's fucking trash.

>>930342

I have no problem with Ribbon in certain things (Great in word, pointless in say something like Access), but it most definitely needs to be a choice.


 No.938003

>>937983

365 was that cheap for companies? Well I stand corrected, year of 365 on my work machine costs the company as much as they pay me wage while drinking a cup of coffee.


 No.938007

>>937665

>It will in a future release

Since Mint 18, it already does.


 No.938020>>938116 >>938130

File (hide): e21357bffe2c222⋯.png (48.06 KB, 600x657, 200:219, microsoft_edge_logo_detail.png) (h) (u)

I've started using Edge. It's actually very good. Some things are rendered differently from webkit-only targeted sites, text boxes seem buggy and are not resizable, and worst of all it has inherited retarded phone number detection from IE. Other than those it's good. It has two most important extensions: uBlock and mouse gestures. Reading mode is by far the best of any browser, including TTS. Same goes for PDF and EPUB handling. Yup, it reads epubs and is actually better than Lightreader at that (again, TTS so you can essentially turn any pdf or epub into audiobook). And best of all this doesn't randomly make my laptop fans whirr and produce noticeable heat like Chrome.

MS should just fix those three things and this would be golden.


 No.938116>>938117 >>938130 >>938344

>>938020

Don't use edge, it's a security risk. It puts the site name in the process list and many games spy on your process list and some datamine it.


 No.938117>>938130

>>938116

>implying I play games


 No.938130>>938138 >>938344 >>938474

>>938020

>>938117

Even through >>938116 has given a stupid example, he's right.

You should use something like calibre-viewer for reading and a better browser.

Edge is a piece of shit. I used it for a few days and it sucks in the long run.

I personally use Iron which is Chromium based but you should use whatever you like as long as it isn't spyware like Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Safari, Edge, Opera, Waterfox etc. (They're pretty obvious, come on)

>randomly make my laptop fans whirr and produce noticeable heat like Chrome

I seriously don't know why Chrome should do this.

Maybe it's the high speed execution of scripts.

However you really shouldn't use either of them.


 No.938131

>>937967

>Windows 7

What a funny way to spell Windows Server 2016


 No.938138>>938344

>>938130

It's not a stupid example. I contracted on a large Unity game prepping it for release and saw they had millions of people's browsing history and other info you can get from a process list stored on their Unity telemetry service. There was so much sensitive shit in there. I didn't really understand how bad things were with telemetry until I saw that and realized this is normal now and lots of your programs are secretly collecting this info on you.


 No.938179>>938185 >>938188 >>938481 >>938483

File (hide): 4815a9cc7e75b7b⋯.webm (6 MB, 480x272, 30:17, Windows 10 made me racist.webm) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]


 No.938185>>938481

>>938179

>filename

That's Windows 8 retard


 No.938188

>>938179

Lol it's funny hearing retards being retarded, sometimes.


 No.938235

File (hide): 5c00869dba5625e⋯.jpeg (52.54 KB, 600x425, 24:17, ted_k.jpeg) (h) (u)

>>931224

Imagine


 No.938344>>938401

>>938116

>>938130

>>938138

I tried looking that up, couldn't find any sources.


 No.938401>>938415

File (hide): 6f19e24b79bbee4⋯.png (30.68 KB, 508x144, 127:36, spoonfeeding this hard.png) (h) (u)

>>938344

>needing a source

Just a thought, but how about just fucking trying it?


 No.938415>>938474

>>938401

Yes but on plain text process list being accessible to everything.


 No.938474

>>938415

Bullshit Chromium based browsers dont do that. And I don't believe Firefox based browsers do that either.

It's just M$ being themselves.

You really shouldn't use Edge.

It's as telemetry botnet as it can get and full of bugs. (I mean FULL like it's a bug n itself)

It's microshits attempt to get your passwords(if you save them to the cloud) and browser history(it says everything about what you're doing online. Back in the day when a lot of sites still used HTTP-GET this included nicknames and passwords anyways.) and try to collect whatever else they can get in addition just like all named here >>938130 are trying.

It doesn't come with LTSB or Server because it's worse than a secured version of IE.

Let that sink in.


 No.938481

>>938185

>That's Windows 8 retard

this

>>938179

You just renamed it from "A_Happy_Windows_User.webm" to "Windows_10_made_me_racist.webm", right?

Shame on you


 No.938482>>938483 >>938487

File (hide): 47e98d59e443757⋯.webm (3.68 MB, 480x272, 30:17, A_Happy_Windows_User.webm) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]


 No.938483

>>938482

>>938179

How exactly did you make it bigger?


 No.938487>>938492 >>950108 >>951967

>>938482

To be fair, Windows forcing you to update is a good thing. Windows users are retarded enough to never install security updates, so we would end up with a shitton of easily infected machines from all the vulnerabilities against which these morons would never be protected.


 No.938492

File (hide): 6b49a07f5e408b2⋯.jpg (67.73 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 14-1.jpg) (h) (u)

>>938487

>this white boi can't even tripfag right


 No.938651

>>931093

Best guide I know:

http://ricing.chloechantelle.com/

Obviously it involves running reverse-engineered shit you'll just have to trust, because the fucking OS doesn't support any relevant ricing.

And even then, it's mostly downloading ready-made themes (look into deviantart for those), because to actually make your own from scratch is an even greater pain in the ass.

But have fun. If you just have to use this shit os for any reason, installing 3rd parties themes can improve usability a great deal, and somehow even performance.


 No.944599>>949932

>>929174

I came here for that reason. I'm not a techfag but I'm trying to find out what you guys think about this. I'm still running win7 and while I know that isn't a lot better privacy wise, I've been refusing to upgrade. And I have to say win7 still runs like a charm anyway. I've never had a single issue with it.


 No.944744>>944751

Anyone have any idea why microsoft decided this Windows would be the last one? Seems pretty arbitrary to me.


 No.944751

>>944744

SAGE WANGBLOWS THREADS

DO NOT REPLY TO WANGBLOWS POSTERS

REPORT WANGBLOWS POSTS


 No.949931

What OS should I use anons?


 No.949932

>>944599

only windows os that is actually ok


 No.949941

File (hide): 9deca8bf4102c00⋯.webm (10.43 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 9deca8bf4102c00ffcea89022….webm) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]


 No.950108

>>938487

>Windows forcing you to update is a good thing

which is why IT departments throughout the world scramble to block updates, or at least use WSUS to manage them. Faggot.

You remind me of the apologist cucks who defended Steam when they forced an update for GTA: SA with the specific purpose of removing songs and content.


 No.950844

>>929052 (OP)

>I'm being a consumer-whore without standards and no one can stop me!

>No complaining allowed in my thread because I said so!

>>>/g/

>>931414

3.11 was okay

It didn't get in the way of DOS and it didn't BSOD like 95+


 No.950874>>950929

File (hide): 0f65c0c68246dab⋯.png (214.01 KB, 550x512, 275:256, ClipboardImage.png) (h) (u)

>Tfw can't use a non-Windows operating system because it breaks habit, which my autism doesn't like that


 No.950881>>950905

Windows destroying all your work(because theres no time to save) as it suddenly restarts from an Update you CANT SKIP, IS NOT THE FUTURE ANYONE WANTS


 No.950891

>>929065

It's pretty fast to tell you to restart your computer though. "Tell you" as in "order you", not "inform you".


 No.950892

>>929070

It does, but 3rd party devs DGAF.


 No.950905

>>950881

>waah I havent updated in months, then I dismissed the fullscreen warning about reooting without reading, and now I lost my unsaved work

How out of date is the kernel you're running on your Linux install? 2 years?


 No.950929

>>950874

Just add the following script to your crontab and you'll feel right at home:

#!/bin/sh
notify-send -u critical "Windows Linux will now reboot to apply (national) security (agency) updates. Continue? [Yes/ok]"
timeout 600 read
for i in $(1 $(grep core.id /proc/cpuinfo|wc -l)); do
while true; do true; done& # don't update too quickly to give the user time to grab a coffee in the other side of the city
done &
yes | pacman -Su || yes | apt-get upgrade
reboot


 No.950943

File (hide): 19b71c57974abee⋯.jpg (333.52 KB, 1081x576, 1081:576, updated update.jpg) (h) (u)

yo dawg, i hear you like updates...


 No.950952

>>931414

Win98 had the best ui"


 No.950980

>>937865

Don't forget he was in the SS and his father financed the Hungarian Fascist movement in WWII. He also killed Jews regularly.


 No.951000>>951002 >>951029 >>951043

Should I pirate Windows 10?


 No.951002

>>951000

>Should I suck cocks?

Your choice.


 No.951029

>>951000

If you're going to pirate Windows, pirate Windows Server 2016. You get the most control. Every Linux distro is a "server" distro, but Windows is retarded with a gimped client edition and a masterrace server edition.


 No.951043>>951054

>>951000

Look pal, free doesn't mean it's worth having. This is like choosing to get AIDS because you can get it for free. It might seem like a solid move but you're just screwing yourself.


 No.951054>>951273 >>951529 >>951612

>>951043

how much do you pay for 8chan?


 No.951273

>>951054

10 bux


 No.951524>>951570 >>951580

just thought I'd post letting y'all know windows ten activation keys are selling on eBay for like $5. the EU passed a law recently saying that MS has to honor every key they sell, meaning keys from junked computers can be salvaged and resold. activated a new install here in the US without any proxy, hasnt given me any shit in the past week.

just some news for the folks in here who have jobs that require using Windows.


 No.951529

>>951054

>comparing Windows 10 to 8chan

That is one of the dumbest fucking retorts I've heard.


 No.951533

>>929054

mingw is the shit


 No.951535

minecraft windows


 No.951570>>951667

>>951524

>the EU passed a law recently saying that MS has to honor every key they sell, meaning keys from junked computers can be salvaged and resold

The keys selling for 5 bucks are not salvaged, those are volume licensing keys being resold, and the law doesn't prevent MS from not honoring those keys


 No.951578

>>929052 (OP)

windows 10 isn't technology. we might as well make threads for Android 7.7 Niggerdick-Flavored-Icecream, iOS 12, and Whatsapp.


 No.951580

>>951524

wow that would be the first law i agree with in years. keys should be fully transferable just like giving your DVD to somone else


 No.951612

>>951054

I'm not sure how retarded you need to be to interpret "Free doesn't mean it's worth having" as "If it's free, that means it's not worth having" for that bizarre attempt at a counterpoint of yours, but you are an idiot.

You know there's always >>>/g/ if this is your level of discourse.


 No.951633>>951647

Windows 10 is the best system, anyone that says otherwise doesn't understand anything about computers

/thread


 No.951647

>>951633

Checked.


 No.951655

i guess this is the dedicated shitposting thread


 No.951667

>>951570

Thanks for the correction, the law doesn't force MS to honor these codes (and if it did it'd only apply to the EU I imagine), it only allows the resale of codes from junked OEM machines. So I guess it's up to MS to decide whether they want to filter updates from resold codes.

taken from https://wifibit.com/buy-cheap-windows-10-product-key/

• According to the judgment of 06.07.2000 I ZR 244/97 of July 6, 2000 the Federal Court of Justice of Germany authorizes the resale of OEM licenses without associated equipment within Germany and the European Union.

• On 07/07/2012, the ECJ reaffirmed this and extended it for discharge in all EU member states.

• The Regional Court of Frankfurt ruled on 18.06.2014 (AZ 2-06 or 469/13) that the sale of an activation key without CoA stickers is permitted.

so idk. I guess MS can (((shut it down))) if they want but logistically, the effort to service/update activated Win10 vs unactivated hardly varies. as far as i can tell i just paid $5 to stop having candy crush saga automatically downloaded onto my machine. ymmv. keep backups.


 No.951935

>click on the program icon

>nothing happens

>click one more time

>2 instances of the program start

>try to close one

>both of them hang for about 20 seconds


 No.951941>>951954

I wish tech YouTubers and everyone else would change their damn wallpaper to something that isn't free advertising for Microsoft.

I suspect MS took note of how iconic and advertisable their Windows XP green field wallpaper was and tried to replicate that success in later versions, but only got it right again in 10.

Vista default wallpaper was unmemorable and unbranded.

Windows 7 default wallpaper was too branded so most people changed it.

Windows 8 wallpaper wasn't memorable.

But MS got it perfect again on Windows 10; normies seem to like it or at least not notice it enough to consider changing it.


 No.951954

File (hide): e535b3f36821369⋯.jpg (35.12 KB, 485x391, 485:391, 1532265617813.jpg) (h) (u)

>>951941

windongs sevom wallpaper quickly became an eyesore when due to high as fuck contrast between things. they went in overdrive with happy glossy and colorful in sewom.


 No.951957

Windows is malware.


 No.951967

>>938487

>security updates

>all the vulnerabilities

nigger, windows updates ARE the vulberabilities. all that shiny new code is to benefit microsoft, not you

btw I can run xp with no antivirus and no firewall without getting malware, because im not a retard. youre probably one of them idiots who believes computer viruses come from surfing pornhub


 No.957118

>Haters gtfo

no YOU gtfo, you summerfag nigger


 No.957119

>>929065

because it's Windows (TM)




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