[–]▶ No.926315>>926316 >>926318 >>926381 >>926407 >>926453 >>926465 >>926492 >>926760 >>926799 >>927064 >>928938 >>929472 >>929712 >>934625 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
>Intel hosts cringey as fuck presentation before AMD presentation
>Ends it with announcement of new 28 core CPU that will be stock 5 gHz
>Shows off a short cinderbench demo at 5 ghz
>Says will be available at end of 2018
>Doesn't specify price or what cooling it uses
>AMD announces Threadripper 2 right after with regular air cooled heatsink
>Next day Intel pulls demo units from show before press could dig into the specs
>Press manage to take photos of the mobo/cooler and some benchmarks
>Asus and Gigabyte used 1KW water chiller and custom loop to keep the chip at -10 at idle
>Commenters figure out it must be one of the Xeon Skylake X chips that Intel rushed for the show to have some desktop answer for TR2
>Anadtech mentions that they couldn't see one of the demo's at 5 ghz because there wasn't enough power to run the rig and the chiller at the same time
>Commenters conclude that the chip must be pulling over 600W at full 5 ghz
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▶ No.926317>>926349 >>926598 >>926758 >>930188
http://archive.today/2018.06.07-022212/https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/06/06/did_intel_throw_in_28core_towel_at_computex
http://archive.today/2018.06.07-022605/https://www.anandtech.com/show/12907/we-got-a-sneak-peak-on-intels-28core-all-you-need-to-know
>We confirmed that Intel was using a water chiller in the 5 GHz demo, a Hailea HC-1000B, which is a 1 HP water chiller good for 1500-4000 liters per hour and uses the R124 refrigerant to reduce the temperature of the water to 4 degrees Celsius. Technically this unit has a cooling power of 1770W, which correlates to the fact that a Corsair AX1600i power unit was being used for the system.
http://archive.today/2018.06.07-022714/https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-processor-5ghz-motherboard,37213.html
>Intel's demo didn't tell the full story. Many in the press mistakenly assumed the new processor runs at 5.0 GHz at stock settings, but we carefully analyzed video from the event and spotted a few obvious signs that the processor was overclocked. Intel was apparently running some sort of closed-loop cooling that required insulating material around the tubing. This turns out to be a water chiller hidden under the table. As expected, all of the components are properly shielded to avoid excess condensation from the chilled liquid.
>The one-horsepower Hailea HC-1000B is a beefy water chiller that can dissipate tremendous amounts of waste heat, but it also requires more than 1,000W for operation. We were originally going to witness the demo first hand, but there wasn't enough power handy to run both the chiller and the system simultaneously.
LMAO
▶ No.926318>>926320
>>926315 (OP)
Will they have power supplies made specifically for these boards? That shit looks ridiculous.
▶ No.926320>>926325 >>926363 >>926755
>>926318
Supposedly they used a 1600W psu for these rigs. EVGA is also going to release some 2200 ones soon.
▶ No.926325>>926328
>>926320
So it has multiple 12v ATX connections, or are some of those meant to be PCIE power?
▶ No.926328>>926377 >>926544
>>926325
Here's a closeup video and from looks this is what was gleaned.
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=w5ZXlQefic0
>Paul's Hardware gives a nice close up of the components and the mobo. Correction* 32 (4x8) pin power for the cpu. Apparently 32 phase power delivery. Absolutely insane.
>From the looks of the board at 3:50, looks like the PCI-E lanes from top to bottom are 16, 8, 8, 4, 16, 8, 8, so 68 lanes on the slots total.
>I'm curious to know how many of those lanes are CPU lanes.
▶ No.926333>>926334
Stallman be praised, that is truly a pants-around-the-ankles abject failure.
▶ No.926334>>926335
>>926333
>Stallman be praised
>actually writing that out and posting it
Man.
▶ No.926335>>926342
>>926334
Check my fucking trips you no-fun quadruple nigger.
▶ No.926336>>926561 >>926564
Here's the intel presentation in under 9 minutes.
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=H8a3x18x70Q
Featuring 5G, former NBA star Jeremy Lin, and the CEO playing the drums!
▶ No.926342
>>926335
Yeah, stallman is no fun.
▶ No.926349
>>926317
Hahaha, did they really think they could pull that off without people noticing? It's like the Mechanical Turk.
▶ No.926359
Isn't this the thing Terry wanted? A waterchilled gazillion-core Intel processor to run the Temple?
▶ No.926363>>926372 >>926378 >>926395
>>926320
The average cost of electricity in the US is 12 cents per kilowatt-hour. This thing would pump your electricity bill up $138 per month if you were running it at full speed. Who knows how much it uses while idle, but it's certainly not going to be nothing.
▶ No.926372>>926477 >>927213 >>934946
>>926363
Damn it feels good to be a leaf.
>Cheap power
>Clean air
>More space than you know what to do with
I would feel bad for the Danish if it weren't for their highly attractive women.
▶ No.926377
>>926328
>4x 8pin 12v ATX connectors
So that's a yes on needing snowflake PSU in order to run.
▶ No.926378>>926651 >>926662
>>926363
>12 cents per kilowatt-hour
LOL the power companies are marking up the price so much. In relation to how much hydro costs, they would be making somewhere between 20-30 times the amount they paid for it.
▶ No.926381>>926420
>>926315 (OP)
Jesus, at this rate Intel's going to put a crater the size of the moon in Israel by testing their CPUs. It's like the Pentium 4 all over again.
▶ No.926382
Intel really wants to hold onto the nuclear reactor core crown from the bulldozer days.
▶ No.926386>>926388
Is it time for the return of kryotech?
▶ No.926388
>>926386
If it comes to that then technology is regressing. Whether that regression allows work to get done faster to push research ahead is unknown, but if technology stagnates to the point that sub-ambient cooling conditions are necessary, then it's bad news.
▶ No.926395>>926399
>>926363
Americans will eat it up and ask for seconds, they are already paying 20 times more for the internet.
▶ No.926399
>>926395
Electricity and Internet are way different. Americans will riot because of electricity. Internet, who gives a shit.
▶ No.926407>>926422
>>926315 (OP)
This is a joke, and Intel fanboys are all over the internet saying AMD is just as bad because they cherry pick benchmarks, lmao.
This is completely embarrassing and it's going to make it really easy to find the people who think they know stuff when they don't. It's also obvious which sites are shills because they're Brown nosing Intel and defending this and down playing it
▶ No.926420>>926460
>>926381
<at this rate Intel's going to put a crater the size of the moon in Israel
>implying this is a bad thing
▶ No.926421
>Intelaviv refrains from talking about 10nm this time
▶ No.926422>>927032
>>926407
Even their shills are abandoning them.
▶ No.926437>>926438
I'm usually the one calling Freetards retarded for their cringey TMZ-tier coverage of Intel, but this is actually pretty hilarious and sad at the same time. They had an entire year to plan for this. I'm wondering why they put that up at all. They could've gone through the show just with their new battery-saving tech and dual-screen laptops or whatever and they would've been just fine but Christ
▶ No.926438>>926476
>>926437
But anon, look at his great vrm cooler!
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▶ No.926453
>>926315 (OP)
>28 cores at 5GHz
Even if it didn't require chilled water cooling its still useless for many applications since it still only has 6 memory channels.
▶ No.926460>>926469 >>926481 >>926498 >>926763
>>926420
But do you really want them taking out thousands of kilometers of neighboring land, and blanketing the rest of the planet in eternal darkness and nuclear fire in the process? The last event like that reduced the earth to magma and created the moon. Extinction of all life is pretty much guaranteed in such a scenario.
▶ No.926465>>926478
>>926315 (OP)
Or maybe, just maybe, people should just stop creating apps based on Electron, and also remove harmful features from HTML/CSS.
▶ No.926469>>926472
>>926460
Extinction of life has happened numerous times on earth. There have been numerous epochs of global cooling in the past that caused earth to become a literal frozen wasteland complete with frozen oceans.
▶ No.926472>>926519
>>926469
I'm fully aware. Those occured slow enough for life to adapt, or weren't catastrophic enough to kill everything. Having a significant percentage of the surface ejected into orbit or the entire surface reduced to magma is different however. Either way, humans would be unlikely to survive any scenario. The impact responsible for creating the moon certainly didn't leave anything but the hardiest of microbes, however.
▶ No.926476
>>926438
Uh, that is a great VRM cooler, what are you implying?
▶ No.926477
>>926372
>imagine being german
at least we have "green" energy LOL
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▶ No.926480>>926486
>>926478
What's particularly cringeworthy about that? Sure, it's pretty stupid to want to use something because of its update frequency, but that's normal among normalfags and proponents of the soy-powered development model.
▶ No.926481>>926483 >>926484 >>926490 >>926647 >>927216 >>929129
>>926460
The idea that nukes are capable of ending all life is just silly. They are disruptive to be sure, but unless you live in a major city, the biggest danger you'll face in a "nuclear holocaust" is your fellow man panicking and becoming violent.
As far as global destruction goes, the best we could hope for is managing to trigger an ice age (that's overdue anyways) due to a small temperature change.
▶ No.926482>>926582
Imagine if they could make computers without having to pander to gamers.
▶ No.926483
>>926481
Nuclear holocaust is good because once it happens, people will hear "le holocaust" and think about nukes instead of kikes. Also because all useless retards and niggers will be killing each other.
▶ No.926484>>926490 >>926728 >>927039
>>926481
I'm talking specifically an explosion which would create a crater the size of the moon. Regardless, current nukes are really just a regional threat individually- though you could theoretically crack a moon with one if the yield was retardedly huge.
▶ No.926486
>>926480
>soy-powered development model
is that a thing?
Soy Driven Development?
where can I find some info about it?
▶ No.926490>>926493 >>926728
>>926481
>>926484
One or two nukes aren't going to affect more than the local bomb region. 2000+ nukes all going off within the span of 10 minutes of each other will most certainly cause a nuclear winter.
▶ No.926492
>>926315 (OP)
>28 core CPU
<5 Ghz stock clock speed
If nvidia manages to pull of the second coming of the GTX 480 with their next GPU generation around the release of the core i69 commercially viable nuclear fusion might not be that far away.
▶ No.926493>>926495
>>926490
>nuclear winter
Stop perpetuating this myth. It's been disproven countless times.>>926490
▶ No.926495>>926497
>>926493
>nuclear winter
>myth
Why do you still deny the nuclear winter of the 2000's
▶ No.926497>>926501 >>928546
>>926495
https://www.quora.com/Is-nuclear-winter-a-myth
Here's a good rundown.
>inb4 quora
It has sources everywhere. Literally kiddo, stop using Hollywood knowledge, and read any post-1970 book on nuclear survival.
Also, kys.
▶ No.926498>>926501 >>926963
>>926460
>implying mankind has enough nukes to come close to a slither of Theia's impact energy
the absolute state of /tech/
▶ No.926501>>926502
>>926498
>>926497
>Being this autistic about hyperbole that specifically states the crater is the size of the moon, in reference to Intel cpus running hot
(((tripfags))) deserve the ridicule they get
▶ No.926502>>926503 >>926504
>>926501
>talking about some kike cosumerist shit instead of actual interesting subjects is bad
Back to cuckchan, nigger.
▶ No.926503>>926505
>>926502
But talking about kike consumerist shit instead of actual interesting subjects IS bad. Tripfags are cancer.
>Hey guise look at me
>I'm so smart, recognize me!
>Guise I want to have a good reputation :(
▶ No.926504>>926505 >>926507
>>926502
>irrelevant cuckchan (((tripfag)))
>"I'm one of you guys! Go back to cuckchan meanies!"
Better find another tripcode, lest your idiocy be attached to it forever.
▶ No.926505>>926511
>>926504
>>926503
Stop being so mad, nig/g/ers. Your newfaggotry is showing.
>>>/reddit/
▶ No.926507>>926511
>>926504
>hurr mom look i use the triple parentheses
>look my fellow polniggers im cool
shut the fuck up
▶ No.926511>>926513 >>926515 >>926517
>>926507
>>926505
>using 2 different trips
>still using a name containing [k00l]
You're not very good at samefagging, are you? You'll have a much better time if you don't try to force your way into somewhere you are not welcome. My suspicions of you being a cuckchan refugee are becoming more solidified by the second. So long (((triplefaggot))), missed you shall not be.
Take metafag with you, okay? The board has been a bit shit since he and you rapefugees showed up. There's been a great influx of tripfaggotry and consumer electronics threads since the beginning of the year, and cancerous ((("anons"))) like you are certainly a likely cause as to why.
Quickly- back to the aids-riddled webpage of your origin, you're a fucking insufferable faggot.
▶ No.926513>>926518
>>926511 (checked)
Look here. Yes, tripfags are a cancer, but they are attention whores by nature and would go away relatively quickly if idiots like you didn't reply to them all the time and give them attention. Just filter by trip. It's convenient; they give us a unique identifier to filter them by.
▶ No.926514>>926518 >>926942
>intel shills desperately derailing the thread
▶ No.926515
>>926511
>cucknigger speaks again
>brags about how he hates consumer electronics
>posts and defends a consumer electronics thread
Back where you came from, hypocrite.
▶ No.926517
>>926511
>waaah waaaah waaaaah
This is all I read
▶ No.926518>>926534 >>926967
>>926514
There really isn't much to say about this, other than it's a garbage fire CPU that (((intel))) decided too late was unfit for public demonstration. They might not even release it if it is really that bad. Unless they downclock this thing to 800 megahertz or similar speeds
>>926513
>"just ignore it it'll go away"
That sure worked out the past 3 months the tumblrchan sodomite's been bunkering here.
▶ No.926519>>926521 >>926522 >>926555
>>926472
>Either way, humans would be unlikely to survive any scenario.
100-200 years ago, probably not, but I'm pretty confident that with the current level of technology, we could survive global freezing if it didn't happen over night. And if the transition took a decade or more the odds would get drastically higher. Saw this presentation by the black science man and basically the one thing humans are willing to spend almost infinite amounts of money on is survival. Generating heat and isolating from cold isn't that hard, isolating from heat and "generating" cold is way harder.
▶ No.926521>>926548
>>926519
>using tyrone tyson as a scientific authority
Quite questionable, but the point you present is very self-evident looking at human society and behavior. If all methods of preserving biological life fail, it is theoretically possible for man to be contacted as digital and mechanical beings assuming technology is able to develop far enough beyond that point. Now that I think about it, was that not the basic plot of that project Tyson Tan was working on?
▶ No.926522
>>926519
Good luck producing significant amounts of food on a snow ball planet, though. Maybe with hydroponics?
▶ No.926534>>929284
>>926518
Do you think that responding to the faggot is somehow going to make him go away faster? If everyone filtered him by name and trip, his effect would be reduced to zero and it wouldn't even be relevant what sort of faggotry he posted. Or you can report every one of his posts for "derailment", /tech/ mods have fairly recently started banning people for that.
▶ No.926544
>>926328
>https://hooktube.com/watch?v=w5ZXlQefic0
>rainbow colors
>integrated wifi
>3 ethernet connectors
What a waist of hardware. No one will ever use all this to it's full potential and I'm betting that the manufacturers knows that and they don't even test their hardware correctly.
▶ No.926548
>>926521
I guess I phrased it poorly. What's less self-evident with all those individuals that spend lots of money on pointless shit is that as society are not willing to spend large amount of money on anything unless it can be argued to be for our survival.
▶ No.926555>>926571
>>926519
> Generating heat and isolating from cold isn't that hard
No it isn't that hard bu generating heat ask for a lot of energy, and modern isolation also needs shitons amount of energy to be produced.
Growing food in a closed environment also ask for a LOT of energy and every bio-dome experience that was done for simulating a closed environment showed that replication failed because we still don't understand the complexity of how it works.
▶ No.926557
While these two guys are arguing about nukes and extinction, I'm going to point at this Intel chip and laugh. It's netburt/P4 all over again. I can't wait for AMD to drop the 7nm chips. Inte's 10nm delayed, and low yeilds - AMD is about to destroy Intel.
▶ No.926559
Anyone still shilling for intel is a retard. Anyone shilling AMD over intel is a double retard.
The botnet feeds retards.
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▶ No.926564
>>926336
>4k
>on a tiny screen
I swear if all the consumerist faggots could have a glimpse on the size of the screen that they would need to begin to see the imperfection of the image they wouldn't buy such meme.
>build in AI
WAKE ME UP!
▶ No.926571
>>926555
But this is not a closed environment. You don't really need to worry about oxygen, the pressure outside, your equipment doesn't need to take Mars' weak E-M protection into account nor does it need to not be heavy as fuck (so you can have as many nuclear reactors as humanity can make), your budget is practically unlimited and you can afford to store up fuckton of food in advance to give yourself plenty of time to figure it out.
▶ No.926578>>927146
Anyone here going to buy that 28 core? Looking great for AfterEffects.
▶ No.926582>>926586 >>926967
>>926482
then technology would still be stuck 20 years in the past you fucking shortsighted moron
▶ No.926586>>926664 >>926671 >>926907 >>927025 >>927219 >>927269 >>930170
>>926582
>then technology would still be stuck 20 years in the past you fucking shortsighted moron
But Gamers are the demographic that give us such memes as
>30fps cinematic experience is fine, no one can see higher fps anyway
>Console hardware is great and allowed developers to tap the full potential of the hardware
>Will they support it with DLC?
>DRM is fine as long as it's called steam!
>Linux is for faggots and has no games unless you want to play Tuxcart!
>WINE? Why not play on Windows 10, it's free LOL
>Intel is better for gaming because it has faster single core processing. No, I don't even know what a core is but I'm master race and so is Intel
>What do you mean GPUs cost too much? Just mine coin when you're not playing PUB bro!
>Join my discord if you want to use our server
>Donate to my paypig if you want access to my exclusive discord channel. Also I'll refer to you as homie
>Check out my stream, don't forget to like, subscribed, and click that thumbs up button!
Gamers are the ones holding back progress do not pretend otherwise. They're like tripfag cancer on steroids. We'd all be better off if the majority of them never migrated over from Xbox Live and PSN.
▶ No.926598>>926627
>>926317
I see Intel stepped up their stock cooler.
▶ No.926627
>>926598
Intel will sell this CPU without a cooler and then tell people to buy a chilled cooler on their own, or else they can keep running it at the stock 2.4ghz with a closed loop cooler. Air coolers not allowed.
▶ No.926647
>>926481
>The idea that nukes are capable of ending all life is just silly
I don't think anyone ever said that. It's more about them ending all civilization. Which to most people not living in third world shitholes basically means all life, I guess.
▶ No.926651
>>926378
>In relation to how much less than 10% of power sources costs, they would be making somewhere between 20-30 times the amount they paid for it.
▶ No.926662
>>926378
>implying all electricity is hydro
>implying there isn't a national infrastructure to maintain
▶ No.926664>>927269 >>928622
>>926586
>Gaymers
>supporting 30fps
But they're the first ones who fall for the retarded 60fps meme
▶ No.926671>>926707
>>926586
>Gamers are the ones holding back progress do not pretend otherwise.
Except the part where they were literally the primary economic driving force of many, many advances.
>We'd all be better off if the majority of them never migrated over from Xbox Live and PSN.
They'd still be gamers...Are you just pretending to be retarded?
▶ No.926707>>926711
>>926671
Nothing has advanced except bloat and technicals to support the bloat. Games are far worse than they were in the 90's.
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▶ No.926711>>926775
>>926707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H6hnFV-nDU
Yeah, graphics totally haven't made huge advances or anything. It's not like that would be at all related in any way to advances in processing power or anything crazy like that anyway lol.
▶ No.926728>>926836 >>926922
>>926490
>>926484
>nuclear winter (c)
>moon crater (c)
literally...
>falling for psyops
Not only your computers had always been infected with botnet but so does your brain.
>believing in pseudophysics
>ever
>doesn't know why meteors never fall upward from the horizon EVER when globe model permits it as possible.
that's the hint.
ephipany is yours for the taking or choose the botnet life (c).
▶ No.926755>>926765 >>928391
>>926320
2200W PSU? Standard USA 15A 120V power outlet isn't capable of running that. Even a 20A 120V (the ones with the sideways prong, in workshops, to run machine tools and such) would be pushing the limits. So you're going to have to have a dedicated 15A or better 240V circuit installed to actually use one of these to its full (no pun intended) potential.
▶ No.926758>>926770
>>926317
>Hailea
Literally cheap chink aquarium cooler. Not even meant for computers.
KEK
▶ No.926759
Jesus christ riding side saddle on cold-fusion powered motorcycle. This thread has degenerated into flat earther / moon hoaxer / nuclear tech is fake madness. Why does this board such a fucking dumpster fire?
▶ No.926760
>>926315 (OP)
lmao Jewtel BTFO again
AMD is on a roll, and it's beautiful
▶ No.926763
>>926460
If kikes are taken out once and for all, I'm fine with that
▶ No.926765
>>926755
Good thing civilised European plugs easily take upwards of 3kW. 2.5kW electric kettles are actually pretty common here.
▶ No.926770>>926789
>>926758
It's a 1 Horsepower / 740W pump. They don't make those for personal computers.
▶ No.926775>>926780
>>926711
1991
Chrono Trigger
Requirement:
snes
2018
Chrono Trigger
Requirement:
OS: Windows 7/8/8.1/10 (32bit/64bit)
Processor: Intel Core i3 2.3GHz
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: INTEL HD Graphics 530
Storage: 2 GB available space
Additional Notes: Supported resolutions: 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x960, 1280x720, 1360x768, 1600x900, 1920x1080.
▶ No.926779>>926790 >>926910
>-10c
>water
oh no no no no
Look at insulation they are using some kind of liquid gas
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▶ No.926789>>926797
>>926770
Now they do.
t. Intel
▶ No.926790
>>926779
Standard water and propylene glycol mix most likely
▶ No.926797
>>926789
I'd be fine with that.
▶ No.926799
>>926315 (OP)
So basically Intel decided to take a shot at making their own FX-9xxx series. Oh the irony.
▶ No.926800
I'd be keking hard if it became another 1GHz Pentium III fail.
▶ No.926803>>927212
So they jury rigged some shit together and said "we can compete with AMD!!!! LOOK!" then immediately fled.
▶ No.926836
>>926728
The required explosive yield to create a crater in the dimensions that we assume match approximately the moon has nothing to do with the shape of the vessel which we are putting the crater in,given the sheer size we are talking about.
Unless you propose that the curvature (or lack thereof) of the Earth would affect the explosion.Which could be relevant if we assume that the delivery method has to be ranged.(it doesnt)
▶ No.926907>>926967 >>927025
>>926586
>Gamers are the ones holding back progress do not pretend otherwise.
You are limited in your view. It's not gamers who hold back industry, because even gamers are the fucking faggots who cuckface over "4k ps4 pro" and who fanboy for the latest enthusiast hardware that can max settings out on whatever AAA shitpot Bethesda is releasing.
The ones holding the industry back are normalfags
Macs and their designer computing shit, whose performance per dollar ranges from pitiful to disgusting, and "ultrathin" faggots who think computers were made for social media are the ones who hold back progress. Those types are quickly chemod from this website, but numerically and objectively speaking, they outnumber and out-cuck the gaymers.
▶ No.926910
>>926779
Hoses wrapped to prevent condensation from forming
▶ No.926922>>926947 >>934837
>>926728
>doesn't know why meteors never fall upward from the horizon EVER when globe model permits it as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SHtHe0s-eE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-CjoIL6X_8
and pics related
I can't wait for you to claim that the amateur video with 60 views and a 0 to 1 like to dislike ratio is paid off by various space agencies and governments.
Now if you'll allow it, I'll ask you a question. Why isn't Polaris visible from Darwin Australia, or any place 12 degrees south latitude or lower, when the flat earth model permits it as possible?
>inb4 160 year old Samuel Rowbatham quote
I gave you video and photographic evidence, so you should be able to do the same.
▶ No.926942>>926948
>>926514
This, heck they even managed to get the mod to delete the CTS Labs threads, as if that'll make us forget about (((tricks))) we saw.
▶ No.926947>>926948 >>926950
>>926922
That second picture is CGI. The first and third pictures are of doubtful disputation. But raliegh scattering proves the earth is not flat.
▶ No.926948>>926956
>>926947
But reminder that NASA is hebrews for deception someone post the pic.
>>926942
What (((tricks))) and why did the mods delete it?
>>926923
This meme just keeps on giving.
▶ No.926950>>926958
>>926947
Flat earthers are never able to show any inconsistencies with the mathematical formulation of gravity. They will however, screech that these formulas are "presumptuous" - even though they're consistent with everything we've ever known.
▶ No.926956
>>926948
>be CTS Labs, an open Mossad front, based in same business park as Intel's Israeli operations in theory (their videos were green screened)
>claim massive vulns in AMD cpus
>really actually nothing
>get your Jew cousin working for a "news" company to push this story to friends in the financial news business
>suddenly your literal fake news is affecting the stock market
>GET BUSTED FAKING THIS SHIT
▶ No.926958>>926962
>>926950
<never able to show a mathematical problem with gravity
>what is the revised maxwell-hertz equations
I am not saying flat earther are correct, they are clearly wrong. But (((modern science))) is full of (((liars))) and decievers like (((nasa/deception)))
▶ No.926962>>926964
>>926958
>But (((modern science))) is full of (((liars))) and decievers
That's for sure. They all have agendas these days - the only people I respect are vetern programmers and (pure) mathematicians.
▶ No.926963
>>926498
We do, it's called Intel
▶ No.926964
>>926962
>vetern
Sorry, veteran.
▶ No.926967
>>926518
>3 months
/tech/ is a k00l board you quadnigger
>>926582
>>926907
>no electron
>no bloated js webpages
>not having everything be on the web, even shit that has no reason to be web-based
>not having normies want to "modernize" shit by having it be made on the computer but failing at making it truly operable on any computer and tying the shit to a certain platform
Are you talking of heaven?
But yeah I prefer gamers to normies
▶ No.927025
>>926586
>>926907
What the hell are you morons talking about?
Holding back from what exactly?
The only thing holding back pure computing power is heat if the 1000W chiller didn't give that away. Yeh AMD seems to do multicore better but it comes at a tradeoff. Thermodynamics is the primary barrier here.
▶ No.927032
>>926422
gamer's nexus has never been shills
▶ No.927039
>>926484
Fuck, I completely misread that.
Yeah, you're correct, something of that magnitude would boil off the oceans and likely melt the surface of the earth all the way around if we still had enough atmosphere left to conduct heat.
Some Extremophiles would still manage to survive. We find sulfur and iron oxidizing bacteria as deep as we can drill down to.
▶ No.927064
>>926315 (OP)
>28 core CPU
>6 memory channels
>special snowflake 32 (4x8) pin power connector
>there wasn't enough power handy to run both the chiller and the system simultaneously.
So 2KW for 28 cores.
>Jewtel will defend this
>Miners will drive up the price
>Roberts Space Industry will expand their premier title's minimum requirements to match this abomination
>AMD fags will laugh as the greatest goys spend thousands for minimal performance gains
▶ No.927146>>927163
>>926578
I don't mean to mock you when I say this, but this is basically a cash grab that banks on the Youtube channel editors in San Francisco begging channel owners for an upgrade. It's underwhelming for the requirements and whatever performance boost you get out of it will be offset by the fact that you've spent so much on it and power source that can handle the power draw of it and the water cooling system.
If you want it, you are probably one of the aforementioned editors and I'm not sure what else to tell you. Maybe make yourself useful when the midterms come up and vote for Patrick Little. I'm almost positive it won't change anything, but it's worth a shot.
▶ No.927163>>927168
>>927146
This.
>he's a content creator but doesn't have a render farm
You could chase down the latest and greatest for minimal performance increases, or you can build and expand your infrastructure for considerably less.
▶ No.927168>>927426
>>927163
How much would dual-socket AMD EPYC rig cost anyway? Looking at CPU prices alone, it wouldn't be exactly cheap. Possibly a waste of resources too, just for AfterEffects.
▶ No.927193>>927194 >>929179
Intel: Oops, we "forgot" to mention that we overclocked the chip during the demo.
http://archive.today/2018.06.08-090835/https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-cpu-5ghz,37244.html
>It certainly wasn't a garden-variety chiller, though. The industrial one-horsepower Hailea HC-1000B can pull a peak of 1000W alone, which is a shocking amount of cooling power for a processor that Intel positioned (by omission) as a chip coming to market at 5GHz. We also learned that the test system required a 1300W power supply, so total system power draw for the demo could stretch up to 2300W. In fact, the hideous amount of juice required to power the demo system prevented our contacts from showing us the performance demo privately: The area we were in simply didn't have enough dedicated circuits for the task.
2300 WATTS
▶ No.927194>>927453
>>927193
Tom's Marketing Department in for damage control
>Purch Media is a marketing firm that gets paid to write shill posts
http://archive.li/JeUxi
>One of their "brands" is Tom's Hardware
http://archive.fo/zLBmG
>Intel is one of Purch's clients, which means Purch writes content on Tom's Hardware, Anandtech, etc with Intel as a client.
<At Purch, our Native Reach program is not simply about a sponsored post. We’re focused on serving our action-oriented audience, as well as elevating the sponsor’s brand with that audience. We tailor the Native content that runs across our sites to better suit each environment, while keeping the integrity of the sponsor’s original content and brand.
http://archive.li/9oxp2
Tom's Hardware and Anandtech are literally shills who get paid to tell you Intel is better and can do nothing wrong.
▶ No.927212
>>926803
LOOK! GOODYEAR BLIMP!
*runs*
▶ No.927213
>>926372
Wrong, electricity in Brazil is actually free, just connect your shit to a pole or to before the electricity measuring thing and you are done.
▶ No.927216
We are finally seeing AMD clearly surpass Intel CPUs. When will we see the same happen to GPUs?
>>926481
Your image is pretty dumb. Look at Satan 2 from Russia as an example. You can cover way more ground if you use multiple bombs rather than one big bomb.
▶ No.927219
>>926586
Gamers are the ones who push consumer hardware.
A better question would be if the existence of gamers is something that supports Windows and other proprietary software.
▶ No.927269
>>926586
This.
>>926664
In what way is 30FPS good enough? For what application? FPS games? RTS games? Document editing?
▶ No.927306>>927496
>The virgin i7 v the Chad FX
▶ No.927426
>>927168
>dual-socket AMD EPYC rig cost anyway
You're still thinking too small
>Possibly a waste of resources too, just for AfterEffects.
All adobe video products have distributed rendering.
If you have an office of faggots working on separate tasks, each can have their own good workstation.
When a section is done with their work, they can queue up the render using all their machines.
When the next major upgrade happens, the old machines get wiped and put in a cluster for more rendering power.
▶ No.927453>>927455
>>927194
and its no surprise Hacker News loves Anandtech.
▶ No.927455>>927461
>>927453
they banned terry, what would you expect?
▶ No.927461
▶ No.927496>>927743 >>928825
>>927306
>i7 8086k
hah-ha-hah loool did you get it guise XXX---DDDD lmao :-D
very deep nerd joke only geeks would understand tbh xD
▶ No.927743
>>927496
>Intel shills still btfo
▶ No.927759>>928368
▶ No.928368
>>927759
INTEL AVIV
(((MOSSAD)))
▶ No.928376>>928871
Interception of curious coded message aimed at Intel. Trigger warning: furfaggotry and porn.
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5ac81885bbc2f
▶ No.928391
>>926755
So, it'll need a dryer/electric range circuit in Amerika. Woo!
▶ No.928546>>934873
>>926497
Looks like bloodthirsty neocons are trying to shill for Nuking Iran by spreading the myth that a nuclear war is survivable lol
▶ No.928622
>>926664
>ywn have a 400hz SED monitor connected to an NVCT GPU running at 360Ghz on FLOSS drivers
▶ No.928825
>>927496
It's an anniversary edition product you fucking autist
Of course it's going to have references to the original product.
▶ No.928871>>929021
>>928376
What did they mean by this?
▶ No.928877>>928896 >>934630
Lifelong Intel user here, what problems can I realistically expect from an AMD CPU? In the GPU space, a good example was thing like how AMD's graphics cards performed poorly with particle effects. I'm wondering if there is a compromise AMD users are willing to accept that Intel users do not have to put up with.
Benefits as well, maybe socket support, CPU featureset like VT-d, etc.
Is there more broad insight than specific-CPU-A vs specific-CPU-B?
I have to build a new machine now that will likely last me another 8 years (if nothing revolutionary happens), so I have the option of deciding on what CPU to get.
Intel seems like they're in a downswing but I'm curious if they won't try hard soon to amend this. I'm curious if I should wait.
▶ No.928896>>929695
>>928877
>Intel seems like they're in a downswing but I'm curious if they won't try hard soon to amend this. I'm curious if I should wait.
You seriously expect them to remember the law of the jungle after comfortably sitting on a golden throne of lies for 10+ years?
Current age Intel chips are the Wangblows of semiconductors.
As for the CPUs themselves, AMD tends to have inferior single core performance but superior comparative multi-core performance which is why no one outside of FOSS optimizes for more than 4 physical cores:^)** and greater longetivity as a result.
Their GPUs have fairly good linux driver support and end up raping comparative nvidia cards 1-2 years down the line thanks to actual legacy driver support, they are inferior to nvidia only when it comes to recently released software gee I wonder why.
I can't exactly predict the future but given how Moore's law is slowly stagnating to death any mid range Ryzen 2000 CPU+AMD GPU with 8GB VRAM should do good luck getting those at reasonable prices.
Virtualization is supported through AMD-V, none of them support AVX-512.
▶ No.928938
>>926315 (OP)
How well does it run VLC?
▶ No.929021
>>928871
I haven't the foggiest idea. I assume it's a threat of some kind.
▶ No.929129>>929154 >>929473
>>926481
what about the nuclear EMP detonated over a country or a region?
That would cripple the economy and country instantly. More people would die that way.
▶ No.929154
>>929129
I hope jewtel dies
▶ No.929179
>>927193
Nah, assuming that chiller has an EER of 5, which is borderline shit, the whole system would pull about 1450W at full load, less if it's got a better EER
▶ No.929284
>>926534
The only sane anon in the thread. Good on ya
▶ No.929472
>>926315 (OP)
>will be available at end of 2018
>don't buy AMD's superior TR2 gear goys, p-pls
▶ No.929473
>>929129
Rural regions would win again, while the cities would probably starve. It'd be boring doing nothing but plowing fields and foraging for berries though.
▶ No.929695>>929704
>>928896
>Their GPUs have fairly good linux driver support
R7 300 series performs like utter shit. And by that I mean it's windows drivers have almost 10x better performance.
▶ No.929704>>929743 >>930288
>>929695
The R9 380X is beast. That said, the 300 series were some of the first ones to be supported so I guess it is normal also Mesa kinda sucks
▶ No.929712>>929730 >>934621
▶ No.929743
>>929704
Talking about AMD GPUs, any idea how well are their iGPUs in ryzen 2xxx supported? Am thinking about getting a desktop with 2200G/2400G and getting a dedicated GPU later.
▶ No.930170>>930214
>>926586
Console hardware being so shit has been a driver of optimisation, at least in game development
▶ No.930188
>>926317
MOAR VOLTAGE
MOAR COOLING
▶ No.930214>>934628
>>930170
It would if consolebabbys had any standards:
>60 30 24 15 fps cap is fine
>massive fps drops and microstutter is fine
>still no adaptive sync or displayport is fine
>checkerboard upscaled 900p 720p 540p is fine on a 1080p 4k tv
>postprocessing anti-aliasing is fine
>what does "chroma subsampling" mean?
>everything from texture rez to aniso and shaders vanishing is fine
>tens or hundreds of milliseconds of input lag purely in the game engine's main loop is fine
>finger-to-eyeball total system input lag of over a second is fine
>modal hdd installs and mandatory always online that make the stack-of-floppies-with-a-decoder-ring days of pc gaming look like a breeze are fine
>no dedicated player server software for lag-free colo and lan multiplayer is fine
>a pathological attachment to gamepads regardless of genre is fine
>uninteractivity this necessitates ranging from auto-aim in shooters to auto-steering in racers and constant "awesome button" cutscenes pretending to be gameplay is fine
Ever since the 6th gen at the absolute latest, practically every dev choice between humbler but more playable results, savant-level optimization, or something that looks prettier in YouTube clips to the knuckledraggingest normalfag, has gone overwhelmingly for the lattermost.
▶ No.930288
>>929704
>up to 7x worse performance is normal when the previous generations supported Linux fine
And no, changing drivers doesn't change this.
▶ No.930425
>AMD starts putting out their first worthwhile products in 10 years
>Intel instantly catches fire and starts tumbling down
The poor things, they'll have to face competition in their market again.
▶ No.932734>>933602
>3.3x heat density of a carbon rod in a nuclear power plant
Just...
▶ No.933602
>>932734
Absolutely not meaningful in any way. IIRC the heat density of humans is vastly superior to that of the sun.
▶ No.934618>>934620
OK, I'm done with Intel, should I get Ryzen2 or Power9?
▶ No.934620
▶ No.934621
>>929712
>alliance
You mean allowance.
▶ No.934625
>>926315 (OP)
In other news, case manufacturers still neglecting 2.5" hdd sizes, likely hoping they will just go away and switch to m.2
▶ No.934628>>934913
>>930214
>>postprocessing anti-aliasing is fine
it is, actually
▶ No.934630>>934875
>>928877
You should always wait, there is perpetually something good over the horizon if only you wait 9 more months. 10 years later you realize that your thinkpad from 2006 was good enough all along, video games are a waste of time and a $4000 computer won't actually make you any happier.
▶ No.934837
>>926922
Bro, that second one looks like it was rendered in SFM with Half Life 2 textures. I agree with you but that's just shit quality.
▶ No.934873>>934913
>>928546
fuck off greens voter
▶ No.934875>>934910
>>934630
>10 years later you realize that your thinkpad from 2006 was good enough all along, video games are a waste of time and a $4000 computer won't actually make you any happier.
almost /thread, but there are games worth playing because they predict the past, present and future ala Deus Ex
▶ No.934910>>934913
>>934875
With how cinematic video games are turning, watching an LP has to be really close to pirating the game, in fact /v/ managed to pirate the entirety of gone homo in a gif.
▶ No.934913
>>934628
Playing anything without at least 2x MSAA is like playing in monochrome
>>934873
>R-r-r-remember, duck and cover goyim!
>>934910
>all the other studios follow Nintendo's lead
>start DMCAing all LPs, streamers, eSports
>issue "official" movie versions of their "games"
>eCelebs vanish
>"game" studios exit into the actual movie/TV industry
>all genres of video "game" cease to exist
▶ No.934946
>>926372
>Damn it feels good to be a leaf.
As long as you don't live in Ontario where Electricity prices are sky high.
▶ No.937430>>937781
So will anybody buy Intel for anything any more?
▶ No.937781
>>937430
They make a bitchin' kid's toy microscope. Unfortunately you need Windows to use it...