▶ No.922547
note: while mcedit is very fast and has text highlighting it suffers from depending on too many bloated things and has a lot of screen clutter. it also doesn't respect terminal preferences, which is extremely annoying
▶ No.922552>>922555
What terminal emulator are you running? st or nothing for me.
▶ No.922555
>>922552
im using terminator, a terminal comparable to xfce's term with tmux-like features.
tl;dr bloat because im lazy
▶ No.922732>>922733 >>922985 >>923653
Who on Earth loads 3GB text files into their editor?
▶ No.922733>>922742
>>922732
Why would you have a text file that's 3GB to begin with?
▶ No.922735
>>922545 (OP)
>why are you using literally anything else?
Because I'm not a faggot, and Vis does everything I need in a neat manner.
▶ No.922742>>922743
>>922733
Never underestimate the size of log files.
▶ No.922743
>>922742
Ah, didn't think of that.
▶ No.922744
>why are you using literally anything else
Because ed, mg, and Emacs do everything I need already.
▶ No.922747
>>922545 (OP)
>the power of emacs
This is not even close to the true power of Emacs, of course, but how would I set up linting in Joe?
▶ No.922749>>922772
>power of emacs
yeah, no
You've obviously never properly used emacs in your life
▶ No.922765>>922767 >>923758
There's really no reason to use Joe other than 'Bisqwit uses it'.
I wonder why you don't see more people evangelising Micro Emacs because Torvalds uses it.
▶ No.922767
>>922765
I think Torvalds explicitly says he only uses it because it's what he's used to and that it's not actually good, so that dampens it a bit, even if it doesn't stop it completely.
▶ No.922768>>922786
>joe
wow when will the patriarchy be stopped
▶ No.922772>>922782 >>922962
>>922749
When non-emacs people talk about "Emacs" they usually mean the text editor part, not the operating system Emacs/Systemd.
▶ No.922782
>>922772
The fact that it's possible to implement half an OS in Emacs is a side effect of its power.
If Joe doesn't have the same programmability and robustness then it doesn't have the power of Emacs.
▶ No.922786
>>922768
>wow when will the patriarchy be stopped
Joe self identifies as a emacs.
▶ No.922848
>>922545 (OP)
>and the power of emacs
Joe doesn't let you program the editor, letalone while it's running.
▶ No.922962
>>922772
Non-emacs people are the ones who mock it for being an operating system. Which is true.
▶ No.922983
>why are you using literally anything else?
Because I'm used to vim and I don't want to nor I have the time to learn a whole new set of key strokes.
▶ No.922985
>>922732
some data files I used to deal with were pushing the 1GB mark. Before, thankfully, they went to binary.
▶ No.923413
Because in-editor linting is useful.
▶ No.923428
Because I use ed - the standard editor
▶ No.923594>>923620
>terminal
so its only useful for admin monkeys on a remote line?
▶ No.923620>>923625
>>923594
You get a far smaller attack surface with terminal programs than GUI programs. A text editor works perfectly on the terminal. You really don't need a GUI to manipulate plain text.
▶ No.923625>>923628
>>923620
how many exploits targeting editors are there?
▶ No.923628>>923630
>>923625
There has never been a single one.
▶ No.923630>>923631
>>923628
then why do you care about attack surface?
▶ No.923631>>923713
>>923630
Not him but why would you want to make things more complex and bloated with a GUI when you can do it all in your terminal which you use daily already
▶ No.923653
I think I tried joe once upon a time, but since I know Emacs & vi it had no use to me.
$man joe
No pronoun entry for joe
>>922732
>Who on Earth loads 3GB text files into their editor?
*puts up hand*
Sometimes you need to look at the raw dataset or log file to figure out what's not going on.
▶ No.923713>>923759
>>923631
Better mouse support, proportional font support, support for images, support for different text sizes, more advanced syntax markup possibilities in general, support for UI elements with widths or heights less than a character, better cursor indication, for a start.
And that's just what I get from Emacs, which makes relatively lousy use of GTK because it wasn't written with it in mind. But even then it's vastly preferrable.
▶ No.923730>>923783
▶ No.923747>>923783
>Joe's Own Editor's Own Editor editor
▶ No.923749>>923783
>Joes Editor
>Jeditor
>Reditor
>Redditor
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
▶ No.923758
>>922765
uEmacs is basically Vi with GNU Emacs bindings. It's nothing like GNU Emacs, otherwise.
▶ No.923759>>923766
>>923713
>which makes relatively lousy use of GTK
That's in part because GNU Emacs modes are a toolkit unto themselves. Also >>>/emacs/
▶ No.923761
>BSD/Linux OS
Oh, boy! Does this mean I can use it on Android?
▶ No.923766>>923792
>>923759
>That's in part because GNU Emacs modes are a toolkit unto themselves.
It's mostly because Emacs is used to running the main event loop itself. All of GTK has to hold still whenever Emacs is doing something. Emacs can use bits and pieces of GTK functionality, but it's not really a proper GTK application, which is why it doesn't run natively in Wayland.
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>>923730
>>923747
>>923749
You faggots aren't funny. Fuck off.
▶ No.923785
>>923783
<Recursive acronyms made with the intention of being humorous are serious business, guys!
▶ No.923792
>>923766
Shit like this is why Neovim said "fuck it, the GUI is a separate process". No one is stepping on the other one's toes.