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 No.916227>>916242 >>916398 >>916399 >>919373 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnunet-developers/2018-05/msg00039.html

Pretty much, some eurocucks trademarked the letter "T" and threatened to sue over it.

 No.916235>>916236 >>916237

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>obvious bullshit lawsuit

>weaker party has still to give up since fighting it costs many times what your average person makes in a whole year

I hate the judiciary system, it only serves to prevent anyone from obtaining justice. Couldn't GNU make the entity held responsible for these projects in some shithole so they can't effectively be sued in the real world? Like in North Korea or some gay island, so even if kikes bother suing you you can make the process take forever for a dozen peanuts or whatever norks use for currency.


 No.916236

>>916235

They could still sue them in whatever country they hold the copyright in, meaning that they'd effectively need to create a new logo for each country. I actually think this is what happened here.


 No.916237>>916272 >>916347 >>916353 >>917834

>>916235

GNU is a detriment to the software economy as a whole.


 No.916242>>917248 >>917834 >>918206

>>916227 (OP)

German here. READ IT. IT'S FROM THE FUCKING TELEKOM.

Since they've no longer been part of the state all they do is ripping people off. You think they buy cables for internet traffic? No they just slow down the internet traffic. Many places have been with REALLY REALLY SLOW internet forever and tons of them still are.

They fucked over the entire German economy with their monopoly position.

Now have to wait till our new Führer Höcke fixes everything.

tl;dr their letter doesn't mean shit. You can't protect a letter let alone font in Germany and only fucking kikes say otherwise.


 No.916244

Are they even forced to defend?


 No.916245>>916250 >>917248 >>917828 >>918071 >>918192 >>919373

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File (hide): 2ed3b6733c5c626⋯.jpeg (17.62 KB, 474x413, 474:413, taler.jpeg) (h) (u)

It was trademark.

>and if the letter "T" (or "t", in any font or color, in any logo that may possibly resemble two lines crossing at an angle)

Typical GNU hysteria.

Also in case you were wondering.

>GNU Taler is an electronic payment system under development at Inria.


 No.916250>>916261 >>916267

>>916245

They don't even resemble each other. They are completely different Ts. If GNUfags shit themselves over such generic letters, it's because they're sissies.


 No.916261>>916262

>>916250

heh. Stallman isn't married.


 No.916262>>916274

>>916261

What are you trying to say?


 No.916267>>916276

>>916250

>If GNUfags shit themselves over such generic letters, it's because they're sissies.

It's because they didn't want to spend the money to go to court. While convincing any normal person the two Ts are completely different takes less than a minute the judge will take months to be convinced, all the while you're burning cash to pay for his and your lawyer's coke habit.

GNU should've fought though, since they have some cash it's better to send a message of "we're crazy enough to blow 100k into a letter so don't fuck with us" than being known as an easy target. Cucking out only gets you bullied more.


 No.916272>>916278

>>916237

The proprietary software economy, perhaps


 No.916274

>>916262

I, too, have this question, except it's directed towards this entire thread and its completely unrelated GNU antagonisms.


 No.916276>>916285

>>916267

Read the actual content.

>a cease and desist letter

>over the... logo

>violating an existing trademark without legal advice from a lawyer would be negligent

>since then changed the logo

wow fuck da police. The epayment service dindu nuffin.


 No.916278

>>916272

You don't know English, do you anon?


 No.916285>>916287 >>916291

>>916276

Look at the two t's and tell me: Are those two in any way similar, aside from the fact that they are both t's?

It's an entirely different font in an entirely different color, and the rest of the logo is entirely different as well.


 No.916287

>>916285

>confusing font with typeface

wew lad


 No.916291

>>916285

You mean other than they are two giant Ts?

Ok now you look at this:

>under current law corporations can OWN letters

and tell me whether you think this guy actually believes this or is he just lying.


 No.916347>>916355 >>917191

>>916237

>90s

>pop-up ads

>drive-by downloads

>spyware

>adware

>do you want to install this toolbar (our sponsors)

>installs toolbar anyways even though you unchecked it

>changes your homepage on the browser to something else

>please take a moment to look at our sponsors

>*does something in the background where you get some adware*

>intentionally placed vulnerabilities on systems outside of public attention until 20 years later

>game goes out of support, has some weird issue that can only be fixed after 5 hours of searching forums for a solution

>paypal

>we froze your account for no reason

>mid 2000s gaming

>we need to combat pirates so we added DRM

>Windows 7 false positives

>SecuRom

>install limits

>always online

>you don't own nothing goyim

>anticheat that scans your search history

>pirated software is becomes more convenient to install than the legitimate versions

>50 MB Photoshop legitimately fucking works portabley

>you need to restart your computer after installing our software

>2010s web

>advertising and analytics become intrusive

>you can't look at our website unless you disabled your adblocker!

>give us your phone number to sign up

>youtube

>we took away your account's ability to write comments

>you need to join our shitty social media platform in order to comment again

>you need to give us your phone number to upload longer than 15 minutes and have video thumbnails

>twitch

>nuh uh you can't say bad things about this game

>you're just here to promote products

Free software is so much better though.


 No.916353

>>916237

Medicine is a detriment to the witchcraft economy as a whole.


 No.916355>>916375 >>916612 >>917248

>>916347

You put a lot of effort into fucking dumb shit. What has GNU done to prevent any of that? Especially pop ads, faggot.


 No.916360

Telekom's logo is T with 1-3 dots on the sides. Without dots its not a trademark, don't believe them.


 No.916375>>916379

>>916355

<what has GNU done

>what is GNUnet to void all of that shit or GNUsocial to avoid all of that shit or GNU Taler for POS front end/middleware


 No.916379>>916511

>>916375

>what is software no one uses


 No.916398

>>916227 (OP)

What a retarded system that is. Giant companies can use these bullshit suits to extort small companies who can't afford the legal fees.


 No.916399

>>916227 (OP)

>Deutsche Telekom AG (DTAG)

More like Doutsche Telekom. They gonna get their asses handed to them and will be forced to pay all legal fees.


 No.916511

>>916379

People use new software today because of a marketing campaign to encourage its adoption. This GNU software does not have such a slick marketing campaign. GNU has done the work it needs to do which is to develop the software. If other people don't use it, it's because they don't know about it or it's because they are not respecters of free software.


 No.916612

>>916355

Free software doesn't have that bullshit, that doesn't stop proprietary software from doing something retarded. It provides a nice alternative.


 No.917175

Microsoft or bust =w=


 No.917185

I LOVE SUCKING COCKS


 No.917191>>917197

>>916347

I can't even play my old disc games anymore because of SecuRom. The paying customer gets treated worse.


 No.917197

>>917191

>playing a game without cracking it first

wat r u doin


 No.917229

Can you all please refrain from using a specific rune, I would be full of joy if you did.


 No.917248>>917836 >>917855

copyright, trademark, etc are cancer. they are the socialism of capitalist societies

>>916242

Then stop paying them money, problem solved. Leech internet off neighbours, go to cafes and take up their seats. Destroy consumerism. Meanwhile, real white men will eventually make their own internet (such as meshnet).

>>916245

what do you mean? they were able to get a lawsuit for these two logos which look nothing alike, so of course any two lines crossing would also be able to get a lawsuit. the post _does_ contain other hyperbole though. just not the part you quoted

>>916355

>what have GNU done

they didn't make sites with popups, malware, DRM (which is effectively malware), etc

>2018

>CS:GO has "offline mode" which doesn't work without internet connection


 No.917828

>>916245

>two lines in the letter t versus one line in the t-mobile version

>The t-mobile version is fucking pink

>the t-mobile logo has never been surrounded with a circle

>the fonts are completely different

>clear usage of dots in one and not the other


 No.917834

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>>916242

absolutely the same problem here with british telecom,exactly the same privatization and probably by the same people.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/bt-sues-valve/

https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/british-telecom-sues-prodigy-over-u-s-hyperlink-patent/28840

http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/12/british-telecom-sues-google-over-six.html

use a spin off or a competitor it may be the same lines but at least you aren't cucking out.

Here they even rigged the allocation of eu funds for broadband and then spent the money financing a shitty cable tv service which leeches off the bandwith upgrade paid for by eu taxpayers money.

"BT has all but been handed the last remaining BDUK contracts as its revealed that Fujitsu has pulled out of the bidding race.

A statement from a Fujitsu spokesperson confirmed that the Japanese company intended to respectfully bow out of BDUK:

“Various conditions surrounding the BDUK process, which we have discussed with the DCMS, effectively rule Fujitsu out of the competition for new areas. So while we remain supportive of the process and its objectives, we are not actively pursuing opportunities within it.” "

https://recombu.com/digital/article/bt-clear-winner-for-bduk-fujitsu-pulls-out-of-race_m11309-html

It was fucking rigged.

"BT Sport is a group of sports television channels provided by BT Consumer; a division of BT Group in the United Kingdom and Ireland that was launched on 1 August 2013. The channels are based at the former International Broadcast Centre at the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park in London.[1][2] BT Sport is available on the BT TV, Sky and Virgin Media television platforms in the UK and Sky, Eir TV and Vodafone TV in the Republic of Ireland."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Sport

>>916237

hurr durr i want two choices like a dumb idiot


 No.917836

>>917248

>Then stop paying them money, problem solved. Leech internet off neighbours, go to cafes and take up their seats. Destroy consumerism. Meanwhile, real white men will eventually make their own internet (such as meshnet).

use a decent proxy list


 No.917855>>917898

>>917248

>what do you mean?

It was trademark. It's really surprising that GNU fags don't know this. Because in my experience GNU fags are really really insightful about copyright. So insightful that they can use a copyright license to prevent copyright licenses or something... it's kinda confusing but very educated people told me that's how it works.


 No.917898

>>917855

Congratulations, you now know how free software has worked for the past five decades.

It's actually very hard to accede your copyright to a piece of software. Even CC0 is still technically copyright.


 No.918071>>918088 >>918092 >>918614

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>>916245

intellectual "property" was a mistake


 No.918088>>918092 >>918614

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>>918071

This. The sooner IP law is thrown out the sooner we can create a sane way of creators to get paid while the public benefits.


 No.918092>>918141

>>918071

>>918088

Reminder: (((Intellectual Property))) doesn't exist. It's a scheme to conflate trademark, patent, an copyright laws, three completely different things with completely different rules and regulations, into one easy to abuse lump. Stallman had a good essay on this, it's worth a read.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html


 No.918141


 No.918192>>918595

>>916245

So using the letter T can get me sued now?

Fuck, better stop using the alphabet all together.


 No.918206

>>916242

Still sounds like a bullshit lawsuit, but that logo is crap anyway. The logo for GNU Thaler should be the head face of a Maria Theresa thaler with her head swapped for a gnu's head.


 No.918595

>>918192

not if your words are worthless


 No.918614

>>918071

>mass surveillance

>your thoughts belong to us

oh gee where have I heard this before

>>918088

>creators to get paid

what fucking universe are you living in?


 No.919351>>919374

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>Can't Reclaim Your Birthright

The GNU Genocide has begun.


 No.919373>>919374

>>916245

>>916227 (OP)

So do they also have the christian cross trademarked as well then if this counts? Time to start mailing out copies of their cease and desist letters to everyone else in Germany to cause a scandal.

Nothing hurts a telcom more than their reputation getting bullied and nothing does that better than a whole bunch of confusion surrounding fake cease and desist letters. Make it a national joke. Any T in any logo, any crossed lines.


 No.919374




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