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https://fuwafuwa.moe/nr/freeme/
Pomf clone owner charged with distributing CP for simply running a file hosting site. This could set precedent in the EU for file hosts. The owner (lesderid) provided constant transparency reports and showed that he was eager and willing to remove illegal content. Please spread this around to other mediums and donate to protect free speech and stop oppressive governments from identifying users who may disagree with their tyrannical actions.
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On 31 May 2017, the Belgian regional police conducted a search and seizure at my dorm. Four police officers stormed into my room, cuffed me, and started opening my drawers and closets. I was told a similar search was being conducted at my parents' home at the same time.
They assumed I knew why this was going on, and when I said I did not, I was served a search warrant. An investigating judge had ordered an investigation and search under the suspicion of possession and distribution of "child pornography".
After being confused for a second, I realised someone must have abused one of my Pomf clones (file hosting services) by uploading and distributing child abuse material.
They confiscated nearly all my electronics (including desktop computers, laptops, phones, tablet, old hard drives, etc.), and also my onaholes (including packaging) and butt plug (no homo).
I was brought to the police station and questioned, and they told me that, indeed, child abuse material had been found on one of my Pomf clones (https://cocaine.ninja), and had been reported to them by INTERPOL (wew).
I was told that my onaholes (fleshlight-like sex toys I had in my dorm room) and hentai might be illegal under a new Belgian law (which took effect in 2016, I believe).
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▶ No.907162>>908669 >>911539 >>913023
"FLOSS" is a literally retarded acronym. In pursuit of a "funny" mnemonic, a supremely redundant abortion that somehow manages to preserve BOTH the ambiguity of gratis/libre AND the insufficiency of "open source" has been created. It's like a geological record of every singe error related to software liberty. It's like people TRIED to make a piece of phrase that is as confusing, as erroneous, and as ineffective as only possible.
▶ No.907164
I kinda get the filehosting shit but the onaholes confinment seems just retarded
▶ No.907165>>907355
Has he contacted the EFF?
▶ No.907170
What the actual fuck belgium
▶ No.907175>>907177 >>907348 >>908508
Why would someone report CP to Interpol instead of first contacting the file host, so they can take it down? It sounds like a setup.
▶ No.907177
>>907175
It really does. Sounds like a government attempt to set precedent so they can crack down on file sharing sites.
▶ No.907178
>>907155 (OP).
>They assumed I knew why this was going on
LMAO.
▶ No.907181
>>907155 (OP)
<I was told that my onaholes (fleshlight-like sex toys I had in my dorm room) and hentai might be illegal under a new Belgian law (which took effect in 2016, I believe).
>But buttplugs are okay. Wouldn't want to offend the gay community.
▶ No.907182
So if someone sends me an email containing furry porn, do I get charged with animal abuse in belgium?
▶ No.907190
>>907155 (OP)
>cocaine ninja
I'm guessing its those #8chan hebe/pedo rizon IRC.
▶ No.907191>>907228 >>907525 >>907619
>taking a man's onaholes
Brutal savages. When will this madness stop?
Also: Why did they take his personal computers if they knew that the CP was hosted on a server?
▶ No.907196>>907200 >>907277
lmao I thought my McCafe shit expired already and I never agreed for it to come back but it's back already
▶ No.907198
>and also my onaholes (including packaging) and butt plug (no homo).
lol what
▶ No.907200>>907201 >>907277
>>907196
>using shitware
Retarded
▶ No.907201>>911519
>>907200
I don't use it, it came default on this computer, and I've been too lazy to remove it or fuck with things on here much, and am just using this computer momentarily for shitposting, before I get on my linux main
▶ No.907202
was he wearing his buttplug when they took it off him?
▶ No.907210>>907213 >>911538
If he didn't have onaholes and hentai, he wouldn't be in so much trouble.
▶ No.907213
>>907210
If he wasn't a bad goy, he wouldn't be in so much trouble.
▶ No.907216>>907265
>I was told that my onaholes (fleshlight-like sex toys I had in my dorm room) and hentai might be illegal under a new Belgian law (which took effect in 2016, I believe).
Is this a joke ?
▶ No.907218
We are fighting a war that we will not win. Server-client based file distribution is open to the infiltration of spooks who would rather prefer us uploading our files to Google Drive so they can check for any thought crime. Distributed file storage should be the future (if we have any future at all) and people should be looking at IPFS and Tahoe-LAFS-like solutions instead of fighting a pointless war.
▶ No.907224>>907408
Your fault, loser. Should've encrypted all uploads.
▶ No.907228
>>907191
If you were a cop or the prosecution, wouldn't you be curious to see if he'd copied them to his fap folder?
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▶ No.907265>>907266 >>907745
>>907216
A good portion of hentai is illegal in many countries due to retarded child porn laws.
Onaholes was most likely just the cops bullshitting him (unless it was something like those schoolgirl onaholes)
▶ No.907266>>907267 >>907287
>>907265
Is there a chart/spreadsheet comparing these laws between countries? I can always move elsewhere in EU and would like to know what the best option is.
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>>907266
move to a country where you can just pay off the cops should they ever knock on your door
▶ No.907271
Like 1k donated to his legal fund today through various sources
▶ No.907272>>907282 >>907932
>>907155 (OP)
>europe overrun with literal child raping terrorists
>lets go arrest citiziens on bogus charges hohoho
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>>907196
>>907200
>using macrosoft wangblows
Double retarded.
▶ No.907282>>907881
>>907272
Friendly reminder Belgium has no-go zones filled with armed mudslimes that the bolis has no balls to enter. Raiding an inoffensive weeb is probably the most manly thing they have done in their lives.
▶ No.907286
>>907155 (OP)
>they took his onaholes
>but not his buttplug
This is some institutionalized gay agenda tier shit right here.
▶ No.907287>>907356
>>907266
The "best" I've found is the Wikipedia page on Legality of Child pornography.
If I was you, I wouldn't stake my anal chastity on someone else's compilation though. The laws of many countries can be officially found online and in an English translation these days. Read them yourself.
Alternatively, go to Eastern Europe where the cops really don't give much of a shit.
▶ No.907348>>907437 >>907670
>>907175
Because a lot of times there is no report option and the host providers can take weeks to remove the content (especially if there is a report button or an email direction to contact.) The INTERPOL also takes a lot of time to act, so the files must've been there for months for them to even care.
And yes, I've reported several sites with CP and have found that most of the time they are still up and running. Most of the time they just remove the content I reported, even when there's entire tags alluding to child porn or other illegal content.
▶ No.907355
>>907165
unless he's a tranny or a womxn the EFF will look the other way and go on with their day
▶ No.907356>>911335
EUfag here.
On the EU child sexual related crimes are laws are based on the framework CNS 2009/0049 [0].
According to it lolis might be considered CP if you think they're "realistic images of a non-existent child OR if they APPEAR to be a child" (so no those Remilia doujins won't save you). The funny thing is that as far as I'm aware this means that underage models, junior idols and so on are not CP.
I don't know how each individual country implements those laws, I know mine considers "cartoons, manga and similar depictions" as non-realistic.
Still, as >>907287 said I wouldn't want to be some mudslime pet on prison or it becoming public, and given that many [1] EU countries have 5th ammendment-like provisions that DON'T force a prosecuted person to reveal encryption keys, the solution is obvious.
I personally wouldn't risk having physical copies of loli manga and would only have a loli onahole if I personally bought it in Japan after disposing of the box.
[0]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A52009PC0135
[1]: https://www.accessnow.org/eu-ministers-targeting-encryption-need-know/
▶ No.907408
>>907224
Why are tripfags so retarded?
▶ No.907414>>907433
Why are there no news/announcements regarding this on the front page of https://fuwafuwa.moe? Is this legit?
▶ No.907433>>907434
>>907414
because tech sites are just as pozzed as news sites and nobody will defend a "possible pedophile" (unless it's one of their friends) plus the fact there's a push against services that offers anonymous services
▶ No.907434>>907438 >>907618
>>907433
How does that answer my question?
https://fuwafuwa.moe is literally his site. Why isn't there an announcement on it? I haven't mentioned any news sites or *other* tech sites.
▶ No.907437>>907441 >>907442 >>907445
>>907348
>And yes, I've reported several sites with CP
Good on you stomping on people's freedom of speech and expression, good goy. Will you report gore too when it becomes illegal? Maybe pirating sites too?
▶ No.907438
>>907434
yes I clearly misread it and thought you were talking about the news not being frontpaged in general
▶ No.907441>>907670
>>907437
>kids being fucked is freedom of speech
>>>/freech/
▶ No.907442
>>907437
>Apartheid Linux flag
>defends pedos
Make no mistake, your comrades will gas you when they find out.
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>>907437
You are a dumb fuck.
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>>907497
>children deserve right to have orgasm and sexual pleasure
just because you uncle told you that it doesn't mean it's the truth
▶ No.907525
>>https://fuwafuwa.moe/nr/freeme/
>While malware or phishing pages can often be defeated with automated scanning, child abuse material is a harder issue to tackle.
No, neither can be remotely tackled. all you can do is block known content (anything that matches a signature or heuristics, which means false positives, even signatures can mean false positives if they are anything other than a strong unbroken cryptographic hash). Pretending that these problems are solvable aids governments in being retarded on unprecedented levels like this.
>>907191
>Why did they take his personal computers if they knew that the CP was hosted on a server?
standard procedure
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>>907519
>can you share those sites with us?
>children deserve right to have orgasm and sexual pleasure
Hello, FBI
▶ No.907555
there is nothing wrong with distributing "C"omputer "P"rograms
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▶ No.907619
>>907191
He may have had a local backup or something, which would tack on possession charges
▶ No.907670>>907701 >>907718
>On 31 May 2017, the Belgian regional police conducted a search and seizure at my dorm. Four police officers stormed into my room, cuffed me, and started opening my drawers and closets.
in such situations police officers should be getting bullets to the head
> and also my onaholes (including packaging) and butt plug (no homo).
was that legal to confiscate that?
>I was told that my onaholes (fleshlight-like sex toys I had in my dorm room) and hentai might be illegal under a new Belgian law (which took effect in 2016, I believe).
so women can use dildos and vibrators but men can't use onaholes because women don't allow them?
we need to brutally eliminate women and state. or make women have rights of a cattle, like in Islamic countries
>>907348
>And yes, I've reported several sites with CP and have found that most of the time they are still up and running. Most of the time they just remove the content I reported, even when there's entire tags alluding to child porn or other illegal content.
can you share those sites with us?
>>907441
children deserve right to have orgasm and sexual pleasure
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>>907670
let me guess, hitler did nothing wrong?
▶ No.907718>>907719
>>907670
3rd time is a charm. How about jannies start laying some bans
▶ No.907719>>907741
>>907718
Codemonkey isn't showing IPs anymore?
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▶ No.907744
>>907497
>so women can use dildos and vibrators but men can't use onaholes because women don't allow them?
Welcome to feminism.
>children deserve right to have orgasm and sexual pleasure
Welcome to >>>/oven/.
▶ No.907745>>907746 >>907747 >>907786 >>907875 >>907905 >>911335
>>907265
>Onaholes was most likely just the cops bullshitting him
No, it was actually in the court summons:
In early April, I was served a summons (original) and was formally charged with the following:
Distribution of child pornography, of three child pornographic videos [real child pornography uploaded by an anonymous user],
Possession of child pornography, for child pornographic drawings [hentai],
Possession of child pornography, for sex toys in the shape of childlike genitalia [onaholes, fleshlight-like sex toys].
Pic related is the onahole in question.
▶ No.907746
>>907745
didn't know fleshlights were illegal in belgium
▶ No.907747>>907755 >>907756 >>907759 >>907781
>>907745
>in the shape of childlike genitalia
How the fuck do they know they're "childlike". Personal experience?
▶ No.907755
>>907747
It's them grasping at straws. All onaholes and fleshlights are "childlike" because they're meant to fit in your hand so you can actually beat off.
Should've just bought 20lbs of pussy and ass
▶ No.907756
>>907747
I guess from now on all fleshlights have to have hair glued to them to make them legal.
▶ No.907759
>>907747
If it's too small. Basically no small vibrators or dildos, and you can only buy 5'5"+ sex dolls. Also pictures of small dicks under 7" are banned as CP. All dildos must be 10" and black. You must also give your wifes boyfriend blowjobs whenever he wants.
Belgium is cucked.
▶ No.907781>>911335
>>907747
Don't prosecutors try to throw in a bunch of bullshit charges which end up getting thrown out usually?
I think there are many examples of people being charged with things related to "drawn child pornography", but that usually only happens when the person has real child pornography. Furthermore, I think the charges are thrown out once they're sure that the person will be convicted of child pornography since they don't care enough. This seems more like bureaucracy being a bitch, and wouldn't have happened without the real child pornography charges.
▶ No.907875>>911335
>>907745
Do you know for certain that there actually was Child Pornography on your server?
Have they provided any proof of its existence?
▶ No.907881>>908803 >>908815
>>907282
Yeah. His big mistake was hosting file server in a university dorm, instead of in Molenbeek. The police and politicians look the other way when muslims are involved.
▶ No.907893>>907897 >>907940
>>907886
Thanks for trip-fagging.
Given the carcinogenic-ness of all your posts, let me guess: I bet you're that faggot from K00l K1ds Klub of Shamonajac or Zduchac?
▶ No.907897
>>907893
It's K00l K1d5 K1ub.
▶ No.907905>>907928
>>907745
Unless I've got my moonrunes wrong, that text at the bottom says nothing about it being middle/highschool pussy. Neither does it mention an age.
So it's the "justice" system BSing instead of the cops. Same difference.
▶ No.907928
>>907905
I don't think the picture is even related to the case.
▶ No.907932
>>907272
it's easier to spy on the internet than in meatspace, so why bother catching tangible paedophiles
gosh are you stupid? everyone has to look good for the boss!
▶ No.907940>>908116
>>907893
dont forget walrus and dankbox and se7en and prrpx and conker and chanstat
▶ No.907944
I am a huge faggot, please rape my face
▶ No.907986>>908061
>>907914
Very good, but it needs the schoolgirl backpack, just to be sure!
▶ No.908109>>908117
>be normalfag
>buy domain with credit card
>register domain with your real name id
>host from home or VPS registered tied to real name id
>rrrreeeeeeeeee i got swatted for CP planted by INTER/POL/
every time, when will they learn, huh? want to be the big bad guy and host free fileserver for random niggers? use hidden service or obscure ownership proxying and cuckflare
▶ No.908116
>>907940
Actually, I'm hardly a member. They offered me free VPS, and I took it. I think they're funny, though their joke has gotten slightly out of hand. Reguardless, free VPS and funny European Teenagers to talk with.
▶ No.908135>>908181
This creeps me out. I always thought Belgian police was way more incompetent and slack than that. Makes me wonder if they've checked me out because of my interests in encryption, free software and Nippon.
The dude in question (pic related) was a dumbass though.
▶ No.908181
>>908135
The Gestapo is alive and well within the cyberscape. Do you have the courage?
▶ No.908459>>909248
>>908171
Make normalfag-friendly boards available on clearnet, other questionable boards should only be accessible over Tor, but still have no-CP rule, so random normalfags can't dox you without proper legal accusations of massive CP tradings and involvement of international LEAs.
▶ No.908508>>908728 >>909248 >>913023
>>907175
How to take down any webiste: Upload CP, call police, profit.
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>>907162
<LOOK AT ME I USE BIG BOY WORDS BUT WAT DO DEY MEAN XDD
▶ No.908686>>908731
>Pomf clone owner charged with distributing CP for simply running a file hosting site.
Good, he deserves it. I hope he gets raped to death in prison.
▶ No.908728
>>908508
This works only on websites the police wants down. On others they'll just contact the webmaster...
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▶ No.908803>>908820
>>907881
That's actually a shockingly good idea. Get some friendly Muslims to sign on, and run a data center right in the middle of the no - go zone. You'd have to get your employees in and out with an armored car, South Africa style, but you'd be immune to the state authorities.
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>>907881
Guess it’s time to become a white muslim now.
▶ No.908820>>909025
>>908803
It stops looking like a good idea once you realize you will be robbed of all hardware the moment the surrounding sandniggers realize it is there.
▶ No.909025
>>908820
You don't need anything fancy to host a small file-sharing site. Get a bunch of cheapass ARM boards and make a cluster, then add some disks. Nobody's gonna steal that, because there's no market for it like there is for iphones and laptops.
▶ No.909191>>909273
>based Belgium arrests wedopeeb
▶ No.909248>>909281
>>908171
jej. i reported 8ch for "having CP" too in hopes it would get them kicked off cuckflare.
>a place where literally anyone can post on the internet
>has some guys talking about pedoshit
>an active pedophile network
works on normalfags every time
>>908459
>>908508
>be a cuck and too afraid to run a file hosting site because of a 0.00001% chance the government will come after you for it
▶ No.909273
>>909191
great, now let's look at what the rest of the non-shutdown internet looks like:
8ch
facebook
myspace
reddit
VK
yahoo
amazon
netflix
youtube
flickr
twitter
imgur
instagram
hotmail
microsoft store, apple store, google store
a bunch of search engines that dont work and couldn't find anything good even if they did because the internet is shit (yahoo, bing, google, etc)
hardforum, overclockers, overclockers, faggotclockers, avs whatever, a bunch of other consumerist cock sucking forums
▶ No.909281>>909286
>>909248
>0.00001% chance
Maybe in Equestria or whatever fairyland you live in, but don't forget we're on planet Earth after all.
▶ No.909286>>909294
>>909281
literally none of the other pomf.me clones got shut down so fuck your shit fag. the only things i've seen shut down are sites like one click hosters where it turns out they willingly paid money for people to upload warez
▶ No.909294>>909302
>>909286
Just plain file search engines have been seized and taken down for quite a few years now. And it's not just torrent shit either.
▶ No.909302
>>909294
As I said, fuck off, stop being a cuck, and host whatever you want, shoot cops when they come to your house saying retarded bullshit (which they probably wont in the first place)
▶ No.911335>>911348
I think he should be fine, even if he needs enough money for a capable lawyer.
Distribution of child pornography: though he was an accidental accomplice, there was no intent. He can't be declared guilty for that, because he simply didn't do it.
They will probably ask him to help find out who did, but it'll depend on whether the pomf clone he used maintains a log. It might be visible there who did upload it.
He probably can't be prosecuted for the fleshlights. as >>907356 said, it has to be realistic to count, which it obviously isn't.
The hentai might be a bit icky, but it is also one of those laws that just can't be enforced as it can be found anywhere and everywhere on the internet.
>>907745
Get a lawyer that is not too expensive but knows enough about pedo law. As long as he is somewhat specialized, you should be fine. Plus it helps with the motherfUCKING PAPERWORK
>>907875
They don't need to prove that it is there, they probably just downloaded it from there, which should count as "caught in the act" of distributing. (even though no intent)
>>908061
That is too cute.
>>907781
This.
▶ No.911348>>911350 >>911365
>>911335
>Distribution of child pornography: though he was an accidental accomplice, there was no intent. He can't be declared guilty for that, because he simply didn't do it.
>He probably can't be prosecuted for the fleshlights.
>The hentai might be a bit icky, but it is also one of those laws that just can't be enforced
Bold statements. You must be a licensed attorney in Belgium. Right?
▶ No.911350>>911542
>>911348
Intent does not confirm guilt. The act and the evidence thereof do.
▶ No.911365>>911371
>>911348
It's just general observations. The way unenforceable laws are treated might be different everywhere, but in the country above them it's a thing that if a law is not taken seriously by many, it's not something you can really blame someone for breaking then.
I gave a valid explanation of the fleshlight statements based on earlier information in the thread.
The shit about intent and guilt I learned in a webcomic on US law, but many of the same principles such as those apply in other western countries.
▶ No.911371>>911376
>>911365
>The shit about intent and guilt I learned in a webcomic on US law
Yes, I've heard that law schools are moving to the webcomic format for legal education. During their next session, the Supreme Court of the United States will be issuing all of their decisions in webcomic format only, and prospective attorneys are taking art classes and buying Wacom tablets so they can pass their bar exams. It's an exciting time.
Of course, Belgium and the U.S. are basically the same, so no problem there. In fact, if you take the letter 'u' from Belgium, and then take the 'l' and bend it twice so it's shaped like an 's', you can spell US from Belgium. Case fucking closed, mon ami.
>The way unenforceable laws are treated might be different everywhere,
Are you sure? I mean, if the Belgian and U.S. legal systems are basically the same...
>but in the country above
I have to admit that I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. Is there a country floating above Belgium? I've never heard of this, but I'd like to know more. What is the country called, and how is it suspended above Belgium? How does Belgium receive sunlight?
Between your incisive legal analysis and the geographical revelations you're laying on me, I feel like my mind is opening to all kinds of new possibilities. Teach me more, senpai.
▶ No.911376
>>911371
Dude, we're all shitposters here trying to share what little knowledge we have. You know my sources, you decide for yourself if you want to believe it. Let others do the same.
chill the fuck out, man.
▶ No.911519
>>907201
Install Gentoo fagit
▶ No.911538
>>907210
But anon, I NEED my daily fix of lolis and butt stuff.
▶ No.911539>>912894 >>912895
>>907162
>"FLOSS" is a literally retarded acronym.
An acronym cannot be retarded.
▶ No.911542
>>911350
Mens Rea can be used as evidence. In the case of distribution of cp only Mens Rea is required but Actus Rea isn't enough to be used as evidence alone. - end lawyer larp -
▶ No.912894>>912895 >>913023 >>913035
>>911539
It literally can. "Retarded" means simply "delayed," "slowed." "FLOSS" is a literally retarded acronym because it is behind the times, insufficient advancement-wise, inadequate with respect to present standards.
▶ No.912895
>>911539
>>912894
(Just as I described with respect to its inexcusable preservation of various historical errors in terms of software liberty.)
▶ No.913023
>>907162
>>912894
If you want to maintain neutrality between Free Software and Open Source without refering to the act of flossing, use LFOSS, short for Libre, Free, and Open Source S'oftware.
>>908508
This is how 8chan got canned from Google. But tbh it had the positive side effect of keeping the bulk of normalfags away.
▶ No.913035>>913178 >>913180
>>912894
You keep using that word, but it doesn't mean what you think it means. Referring to acronyms as "behind the times" is in itself a figure of speech.
▶ No.913178>>913180 >>913202
>>913035
EVERY word is a figure of speech. Etymologically speaking, every word orginally meant something else than what it has become lexicalized to mean at present. The important thing is, the adjective "retarded" properly describes the acronym "FLOSS" both in the present, more-figurative "it is stupid" sense and in the dated, less-figurative "it is obsolete" sense.
▶ No.913180
>>913035
>>913178
Simply put, the word "literally" applies as soon as we step back a rung or two on the etymological ladder.
▶ No.913202>>913245
>>913178
>EVERY word is a figure of speech.
This is irrelevant and, if granted, only makes you inconsistent, since there would be no point in calling anything "literally" anything else. I'll not address you further.
▶ No.913245>>913246
>>913202
Being figurative is a property like having temperature. Every(word, thing) does it; it is a matter of degree.
▶ No.913246
>>913245
Accidentally saged.