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https://blog.torproject.org/announcing-tors-next-executive-director-isabela-bagueros
https://archive.today/2018.04.24-140109/https://blog.torproject.org/announcing-tors-next-executive-director-isabela-bagueros
Shari announced her retirement from the Tor Project at the end of February, and the search for our next Executive Director is already over. We're thrilled to announce our next ED, Isabela Bagueros.
Isa joined the Tor Project as Project Manager in 2015 and has led teams in collaborative strategy building and roadmapping unprecedented at the organization. She also leads Tor’s UX team in implementing critical usability improvements and is leading an overhaul of Tor’s website.
“Isa’s contributions to Tor are too many to name here,” said Shari Steele, Tor’s current Executive Director who was brought on in 2015 to make the organization more operationally sound. “She brings global experience and perspective to privacy and censorship issues, and I could not be more confident in her ability to lead the organization into its next phase of growth and sustainability.”
Thinking of the user first has always been a priority for Isa, and during her three years with the organization, the scope of her vision for Tor has expanded to include the health of the organization and network. “I think any person on the planet should have access to the Tor network and enjoy the privacy and security it provides,” said Isa. “That means we need a healthy and scalable network and a strong and diverse organization to support that. I’m looking forward to seeing Tor gain global recognition for the privacy protections and censorship circumvention it provides.”
▶ No.902992>>902994 >>902999 >>903413 >>906126
how certain is it that tor is compromised now?
▶ No.902994
>>902992
I can only guess out of my ass, or flip a coin.
▶ No.902998>>903000 >>903007 >>903078 >>903482 >>905260
So what's the problem ?
Am I supposed to be against this just because it's a woman ?
▶ No.902999>>903022 >>905410
>>902992
…but if we are playing that stupid game of guessing by the looks, she looks a lot less suspicious than many of the other recently dramatically discussed CEOs/Directors/etc, IMO.
It seems she's white, doesn't wear problem glasses (at least on this photo), and in general is pretty nice, unlike those you fear.
▶ No.903000>>903003
>>902998
Who said there's a problem? It's just news. Relax dude.
▶ No.903003>>903005 >>903022
>>903000
why else would someone post this ?
I don't care about tor's executive director more than I care about the change log.
▶ No.903005
>>903003
someone else may care.
speaking about good/bad, I encourage everyone to do their own research and discuss.
▶ No.903007>>903010 >>903339
>>902998
Just scanning her data, I see nothing wrong with her, though I would accept criticism.
▶ No.903010
>>903007
Ditto. I searched a few places and saw nothing relating to "women's outreach" or "feminism"
▶ No.903013>>903014
>>902978 (OP)
You're back and you still didn't archive properly faggot.
https://archive.fo/cCTBI
▶ No.903014
>>903013
>properly
>short link which you can't use to extract original URL without visiting
Are you trolling or just stupid?
▶ No.903022>>903026 >>903090
>>902999
>guessing by looks
Yeah but not how you mean
>The Tor Project was founded by computer scientists Roger Dingledine, Nick Mathewson and five others in December 2006.
>As of 2012, 80% of The Tor Project's $2 million annual budget came from the United States government
>Isabela Bagueros joined in March 2015
>In December 2015, The Tor Project announced that it had hired Shari Steele
>On May 25, 2016 core developer and the public face of the Tor Project, Jacob Appelbaum, stepped down from his position
>July 13, 2016, the complete board of the Tor Project was replaced which included founding members
>>903003
>I don't care about tor's executive director more than I care about the change log.
lol this is called brand loyalty and it's funny as fuck that tinfoilers are just as weak as everyone else
▶ No.903026>>904201
>>903022
>lol this is called brand loyalty and it's funny as fuck that tinfoilers are just as weak as everyone else
you have no idea what you're talking about
▶ No.903037>>903038 >>903040 >>903080 >>903084 >>906987
What actually stops the CIA from knocking the door of the Tor devs and forcing them to merge a malicious patch to the source code, either through extortion or by bribing? Their names are public so it would take approximately 5 seconds to find their address as well.
▶ No.903038
>>903037
nothing, obviously
▶ No.903040
>>903037
We can only hope they would react the same as the Truecrypt devs.
▶ No.903044>>903045 >>903047 >>903075
On one hand, this is awful, but on another, I want to tell a small tale.
There is a group of libre apps on F-Droid called "Privacy Friendly Apps." Inside F-Droid, they are only attributed to "SECUSO research group at Universität Darmstadt, Germany."
If you visit its website, in particular the Team page, you are greeted by a picture fronted mostly by women, in which women outnumber men six-to-three. The project leader is a woman, and in non-assistant positions, women outnumber men four-to-two.
But if you download (or read the code of, I imagine) the actual apps, and take care to visit their About pages, you will see that men outnumber women sixteen-to-one.
Those contributions are not present in apps' individual pages on the project's site.
So, as we all know, men's contributions are still there, they are only being minimized. Maybe so it is with men's technical oversight.
▶ No.903045>>903050 >>903060
>>903044
>On one hand, this is awful
Why?
▶ No.903047
>>903044
>visit their About pages
their About screens*
As I said, their pages don't mention their authorship.
▶ No.903050>>903060
>>903045
Because it shows the disintegration of the project's internal focus from technical competence to politics.
▶ No.903060>>903066
>>903050
>>903045
In case you doubt the political nature of this choice, just re-read the OP. "Critical usability improvements" is a fucking oxymoron. That whole announcement displays the leftist practice of destruction by dilution. The meaning of "Tor" is broadened from the core, abstracted piece of software, which actually does the job (many different jobs, in fact, see below) into the "environment" under which contributions to irrelevancies such as interface, website, promotion or "education" are considered "contributing to Tor, too."
Fun fact: that latter process is exhibited excellently in the narrative concerning Ada Lovelace. Leftists are minimizing Babbage's insights as being "mere abstraction" and crediting Ada with the "true realization" of his machines' potential applications in generation of art, music, or whatever it is. But this is a complete misrepresentation of true merit. Babbage was not limited in his vision and only liberated from his narrow-mindedness from Lovelace, as feminists would have you believe. It's the very opposite: he had to discard all practical problems to solve, on consideration of which Ada was stuck, in order to abstract the mathematical nature of problem-solving into a form that he addressed in his machine. It was she who couldn't free herself from practical application.
("He became a poet? Good; he didn't have enough imagination to be a mathematician.")
This leftist manipulation is in essence presenting abstracted, general solutions (Babbage's machines, but also Tor that can be used for routing different kinds of traffic, not to mention may have led to even more broadly employable mathematical results) as inherently inadequate and lacking as long as they lack promotion, application and so on, wilfully ignoring the fact that it is that very generalized abstraction that allows them to be deployed universally. As always, leftists bite the hands (and minds) that feed.
▶ No.903066
>>903060
(This appointment may not directly impair Tor's own code quality if it is used by the government, but since Tor is a very visible project, feminization and promotion of the "you don't need to write code to be a programmer" principle will probably impact policies of other libre software groups.)
▶ No.903067>>903069 >>903110
This is nothing. It's just the nature of the SJW beast nowadays. Women get all of the glamorous public executive positions to avoid accusations of sexism, but all of the hard technical work is still done by mostly men. As long as the code is open source and as heavily scrutinized as Tor is, there's no need to worry. The same applies to Qubes, with Joanna Rutkowska taking the credit for it but guys like Marek doing most of the actual work.
▶ No.903069>>903071 >>903074
>>903067
>The same applies to Qubes, with Joanna Rutkowska taking the credit for it but guys like Marek doing most of the actual work.
Has there been a person as SEEEEEXIIIIIIST as to write a script that would parse projects' "Team" and "About Us" pages, extract info about leadership positions, and then proceed to analyse contributions to repositories so to establish a "merit neglect" score in the sense of which projects are most unrewarding to their actual contributors in terms of failing to credit them on their websites or organizations?
▶ No.903071
>>903069
(I forgot about the tastiest bit: to relate the "neglect score" to a project's popularity.)
▶ No.903074>>903077
>>903069
If such a system existed it would likely be gamed in the same way people game github to make their profiles apear more impressive. Making dozens of commits every day for several years, but 99% of them are grammar and formating fixes to documentation, or fixing inconsistant code styling (with each commit being fixes to a single line).
▶ No.903075>>903079 >>903087 >>904708
>>903044
So they're just trying to appear "PC" without actually being cucked. Nothing wrong with that, I'd probably do it too if I was running a project or company.
▶ No.903077
>>903074
You're right. I remembered after I had sent my post about that picture (admittedly, possibly fake) about a woman recipient of a Linux kernel hacking award whose "contribution" was changing variable types in it.
Still, AI advances; sooner or later it will be able to judge things' relevance too.
▶ No.903078>>903118 >>907314
>>902998
Yes, because here on /pol/tech, we're that insecure.
▶ No.903079>>903087 >>904708
>>903075
>Nothing wrong with that
You consider not acknowledging apps' actual makers on those apps' actual pages (there are only GitHub links) as "nothing wrong"? I don't.
▶ No.903080
>>903037
>What actually stops the CIA from knocking the door of the Tor devs and forcing them to merge a malicious patch to the source code, either through extortion or by bribing?
The fact that the sources are open for everyone to see and analyze, and that it wouldn't be very useful anyway because there would be unaffected mirrors.
▶ No.903084>>903100
>>903037
It's open source that means it's safe because anyone can see the source code and spot malicious code. This is satire.
▶ No.903085>>903100
>open source = secure
lol only a fucking tripfag could be this dumb
▶ No.903087>>903100 >>903113
>>903075
>>903079
(Plus, it is wrong in the first place to imply women's technical superiority to men when it's not true.)
▶ No.903090>>903093 >>903095 >>903263
>>903022
>Jacob Appelbaum
a jew who is claimed to be an obnoxious sodomite with a habit for sexually violating people
http://jacobappelbaum.net/
▶ No.903093>>903096
>>903090
You, >>903090, are an obnoxious sodomite with a habit for sexually violating people.
See, you are now just as "claimed" to be one as that Appelbaum guy.
▶ No.903095
>>903090
Also, it's pretty clever how someone took care to make that site available using HTTP as opposed to HTTPS in order to cast doubts about the man's security competence in eyes of people who don't visit it and believe it to be his own site.
▶ No.903096
>>903093
fair. feel free to find my queer selfies and make a webpage about me.
▶ No.903100>>903101 >>905735
>>903084
>>903085
(You)
And that's not what was implied.
>>903087
As a historical curiosity, back when "computer" referred to a human whose job was to perform calculations, i.e. the 40's, women were chosen more often because they were, at the time, considered to be more talented than men for that kind of tasks. As a combination of that, and the relative shortage of men due to the necessities of war, the first programmers of the ENIAC were all women computers.
>the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics said in 1942, "It is felt that enough greater return is obtained by freeing the engineers from calculating detail to overcome any increased expenses in the computers' salaries. The engineers admit themselves that the girl computers do the work more rapidly and accurately than they would. This is due in large measure to the feeling among the engineers that their college and industrial experience is being wasted and thwarted by mere repetitive calculation"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC#Programmers
▶ No.903101>>903105
>>903100
This is about the distinction between programming as translation of a program from form to form (spoken, written, digital) and programming as formulation of programs, procedures,>>903100 in the first place.
Calling translators of programs first programmers is like calling scribes first authors of literature.
▶ No.903105>>903126
>>903101
If you consider programming to be an art like painting or sculpture, then sure. However, programming is a technical discipline, and translating an equation from its mathematical form to a series of instructions to be executed by the ENIAC is programming in itself. The fact that you might be dictated an algorithm does not take away the fact that implementing it as a series of instructions is programming.
▶ No.903110
>>903067
>The same applies to Qubes, with Joanna Rutkowska taking the credit for it but guys like Marek doing most of the actual work
Source?
I always thought J.R. was doing at least a big part of it.
▶ No.903113>>903169
>>903087
>(Plus, it is wrong in the first place to imply women's technical superiority to men when it's not true.)
Who is implying that?
Do you have hallucinations?
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▶ No.903119
>>903118
Still one of them
▶ No.903126>>903131
>>903105
>If you consider programming to be an art like painting or sculpture
Good programming, caring about design, speed and cleverness is an "art" as in "artisan". There's a reason the holy scripture is called "The Art of Programming" and not "The Science of Programming".
>>903117
Shit taste.
▶ No.903131>>903143
>>903126
>Shit taste.
Oh really?
Show yours.
▶ No.903143>>903374
>>903131
Something like this https://my.mixtape.moe/vlwtcz.jpg
Tor users can't post pics.
▶ No.903169
>>903113
As you full well know, implications are unfalsifiable by definition.
▶ No.903185
>critical usability improvements
this almost sounds important
the only reason tor still works is the cia niggers want it to keep working and for others to be using it so they can hide amongst it.
▶ No.903216>>903250 >>903251
>>903211
>tor is for and enables CP!111
>tor is SJW!!11
how is it even possible to be both kinds of retard at once? i don't care if tor has SJWs working on it other than the cringe. if someone wanted to backdoor an open source project, they can just join and put their backdoored code in, it's not hard. they don't need to pretend to be behind some social cause to get in
▶ No.903229
>>903211
>loli
>REAL lolitas
>fucking pedophile scum
kill yourself, wretch.
▶ No.903250>>903254
>>903216
>backdoors
you think this has to do with backdoors?
▶ No.903251>>903254 >>903373
>>903216
Why do people think this. How do you think "you can just join and add code" even works. You do realize open source projects have many levels of maintainers and sets of eyes that new code goes through before it added into mainline and released. Have you ever seen a mailing list? In any even remotely credible and serious project code is always looked at. It might be possible with some bullshit project that no one cares about but not something like the Linux kernel or Tor. No one "just adds" shit randomly that implements some spooky backdoor without the other hundreds of people not having a fucking clue that's it there. Please, if I'm wrong, show me an example of when someone has successfully done this.
▶ No.903254>>903265 >>905349
>>903250
Because the polniggers keep spamming about "SJWs infiltrating shit", so it sounds like they're talking about risk of backdoors or just halting the project with politics.
>>903251
Lol. There are many ways to add backdoors in plain sight, the most basic technique is to subtly add the necessary changes as parts of many new features. Another very basic technique is to simply deliberately put a vulnerability in. Since we can't tell which vulns are deliberate or not, I'm just going to refer you to a vulnerability database like CVE.
▶ No.903263
>>903090
Nice try COINTELPRO I aint using your botnet.
▶ No.903265
>>903254
Lol. There are many ways to kill a person with thoughts in plain sight, the most basic technique is to subtly add the necessary damage as parts of many small thoughts. Another very basic technique is to simply deliberately kill them with thoughts. Since we can't tell which deaths are deliberate or not, I'm just going to refer you to a death database like a graveyard.
▶ No.903339>>903342 >>903370
>>903007
>project manager
>strategy building
>roadmapping
>UX team
>web design
Only potential problem I can see at a glance is that her history doesn't seem to indicate any technical skill
▶ No.903342
>>903339
Or any kind of work experience. Those are all titles you give to quota hires.
▶ No.903346
>>902978 (OP)
>She brings global experience and perspective
the fuck
▶ No.903370
>>903339
Technical competence is implied you retard. Do you really think an executive of a major project would not have extensive technical experience?
▶ No.903373
>>903251
this problem is solved by replacing the entire team eventually.
▶ No.903374
>>903143
well I guess it's somewhat okay, but she doesn't have muscle, looks like the first gust will blow her off her feet.
▶ No.903413>>903423 >>903424 >>904664
>>902992
>Guys this thing where top people involved are hired by the feds and was made by the NAVY is TOTALLY secure
▶ No.903423
>>903413
But what are better normie friendly alternatives where you can also "disappear in the crowd"?
Or do you suggest everyone to just stop browsing any and all embarrassing shit?
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▶ No.903482>>903521 >>903549
>>902998
>woman
It's a tranny
▶ No.903511>>903521
>>903211
>another photo of her
hnng
▶ No.903521>>903534 >>903542
>>903482
And the proofs are … ?
>>903511
What do you mean?
▶ No.903534>>903572
>>903521
>And the proofs are … ?
▶ No.903542>>903564
>>903521
I would peel the layers of her onion if you know what I mean
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▶ No.903564
>>903542
you are a funny person.
▶ No.903572
>>903534
>sarchasm
i see what you did there
▶ No.904201>>904216
>>903026
You're being a faggot. OP might have a point. RIP Tor, download Freenet.
▶ No.904216>>904217 >>904489
>>904201
>download freenet
>download zeronet
>download gnunet
>download clearnet
>download tor
>download i2p
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▶ No.904489
>>904216
anyone here have experience with gnunet?
▶ No.904664>>904676
>>903413
>made by the NAVY
you're so fucking stupid you actually believe this
▶ No.904676
>>904664
Who made it then?
▶ No.904708>>904726
>>903075
>>903079
That "theatre of diversity" is immoral.
▶ No.904726>>905233
>>904708
The sad thing about that picture is that for all we know, the redhead in that photo may have been a diversity member in the first place; only it got an order of magnitude worse in the doodle.
▶ No.905214
Tor(ah) is a jewish-made network so they can share CP and organise child trafficking without being caught. Still worth using because they aren't being caught.
▶ No.905233>>905252 >>905254
>>904726
https://flight.nasa.gov/people/brown_bio.htm
My last day on /tech/ and it's shit thanks to idiots like you.
▶ No.905236>>905250
>>902978 (OP)
>collaborative strategy building and roadmapping
Do any of these words have meaning?
▶ No.905250
>>905236
"And" is a fairly well-defined and useful logical operator, I suppose.
▶ No.905252
>>905233
>My last day on /tech/
Please elaborate on that before you leave forever.
▶ No.905254>>909836
>>905233
>She is responsible for all aeronautics program resources planning, authorization and review including budget formulation and execution, financial management, program analysis and resources status reporting.
So basically, she has shit all to do with actual astronautics?
▶ No.905260
>>902978 (OP)
>“That means we need a healthy and scalable network and a strong and (((diverse))) organization to support that.
Oh boy.
>>902998
You literally just read a newspost about something without any opinion on you oversensitive retard.
▶ No.905349>>905685
>>903254
Tell me one vulnerability in Tor. The only vulnerabilities that I know of are ones that only a large government could pull off, and they're not because of a backdoor. They have to collect all data going in and coming out by controlling a majority of entry and exit nodes.
▶ No.905410>>905470 >>905609
>>902999
>she looks a lot less suspicious than many of the other recently dramatically discussed CEOs/Directors/etc
>woman
>kike
>not suspicious
Best get your suspicious sense fixed anon.
▶ No.905470>>905488
>>905410
I just mean there are more suspicious people out there.
▶ No.905609
>>905410
>>woman
OK. Makes sense for womyn to flock to office jobs, duh.
>>kike
Hol' up nigga, you got proof-oh dat?
▶ No.905680>>905712
>/tech/ thread turns into a /pol/ thread and anons are not even hiding it anymore
mod is a fa/gg/ot
▶ No.905682>>905809
>>902978 (OP)
Why would they chose an executive director with absolutely 0 knowledge of the C language or even any programming education? She had a law degree and did some html for a shitty startup in sanfran.
▶ No.905685>>905700 >>905786 >>908199
>>905349
JavaScript still enabled by default.
Security settings set to low by default
No script set to allow embeddings by default
Check.torproject.org uses clear text links despite its entire purpose being to act as a directory of documentation/ip Checker.
Still uses and relies on Firefox despite there being other open-source browsers with way less lines of code.
▶ No.905700>>905701 >>905781
>>905685
>JavaScript still enabled by default.
>Security settings set to low by default
>No script set to allow embeddings by default
do you want to reduce user base? Tor is only as good as big its userbase is, because you need to blend it. and that means you need NORMIES to use it. capisce?
>>905685
>Still uses and relies on Firefox despite there being other open-source browsers with way less lines of code.
they are less audited
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▶ No.905712
>>905680
This, we need to seize the means of TOR and resistribute tech to all.
▶ No.905735
>>903100
>This is due in large measure to the feeling among the engineers that their college and industrial experience is being wasted and thwarted by mere repetitive calculation"
So you're saying women are better at brainless, repetitive tasks
▶ No.905781>>905784 >>905785 >>905786
>>905700
>do you want to reduce user base? Tor is only as good as big its userbase is, because you need to blend it. and that means you need NORMIES to use it. capisce?
Normies won't configure a Tor node or a bridge, and Tor Browser won't do that automatically for them (opt in, ofc). So saying that Tor is big because it has lots of normie client nodes and a few proper nodes run by NSA doesn't make sense to me. (Don't take NSA node comment literally, I'm just making a point.)
What I think should be done, but don't think will be done ever, is to make everybody using Tor Browser a relay node by default or exit node or bridge by choice. Then what you said would make sense: more normies == bigger network.
▶ No.905784
>>905781
even dumb user nodes are important, that is, it's better than nothing.
otherwise if you have 10 people using Tor, they could simply knock the door of every one.
▶ No.905785
>>905781
>What I think should be done, but don't think will be done ever, is to make everybody using Tor Browser a relay node by default or exit node or bridge by choice. Then what you said would make sense: more normies == bigger network.
I think this is only a question of time.
▶ No.905786>>905787
>>905685
If you're serious about security you wouldn't be using a web browser in the first place, let alone using a bloated browser that has these options (having them off doesn't reduce the giant attack surface as much as normalfags think).
>noscript
meme plugin #35235235 who gives a shit
>>905781
I2P has everyone as a full node by default. It's somehow objectionable for Tor to be exit node by default because the goyim still think IP addresses can be held accountable for what traffic goes through them. It could by relay by default though I guess.
▶ No.905787
>>905786
>I2P has everyone as a full node by default
that is, two and a half of users?
>It could by relay by default
he said just that
▶ No.905809
>>905682
You answeredd your own question. This appointment has nothing to do with Tor; it's to signify that "even with a law degree and knowledge of merely HTML, you can still lead a major networking project! <3" The more incompetent she is, the fitter a candidate.
▶ No.906126
>>902992
Since inception? Tor requires bad goys to run their own nodes to be effective.
▶ No.906180>>906188
I remember reading someone who hosted a site on tor
got tons of ddos and pen testing, he claimed the speed and bandwidth from a single attacker wasnt possible if he was a regular client from outside the tor network, someone direct with access and control over a chain of nodes was doing it
they fucked up
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▶ No.906201
>>906188
It was a long time ago
maybe i read it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/
I recall the guy was running some kind of webpage archive, that might help the search.
▶ No.906987>>907093
>>903037
>What actually stops the CIA from knocking the door of the Tor devs and forcing them to merge a malicious patch to the source code, either through extortion or by bribing? Their names are public so it would take approximately 5 seconds to find their address as well.
Shooting said CIA dead in the face upon arrival, that's what usually stops it. Didn't that Russian refugee who wrote all these big books say to kill agents when they start doing police state shit door to door, and that it would catch like wildfire among the population?
▶ No.907084
Can a woman run it? We got to be safe here, there are plenty men working in the project to be sure she won't mess up right? right?
▶ No.907093>>907215 >>907322
>>906987
>Shooting said CIA dead in the face upon arrival, that's what usually stops it. Didn't that Russian refugee who wrote all these big books say to kill agents when they start doing police state shit door to door, and that it would catch like wildfire among the population?
in
how to kill CIA agents and buildings with CIA agents?
▶ No.907215>>907322
>>907093
>not having booby traps, machine guns, hand grenades and dynamites in house when SWAT teams come knocking on your door
▶ No.907314
>>903078
Die in a fire tripfag.
▶ No.907322
>>907093
>>907215
>not having Terry in house when SWAT teams come knocking on your door
▶ No.908199
>>905685
> JavaScript
> Firefox
Tor doesn't have to do with any of those things. I use it as a SOCKS proxy in various browsers with JavaScript off.
▶ No.909810>>909849
>>903424
It actually is.
How do you think all those pedos got caught and all those pedo sites busted?
▶ No.909836
>>905254
She's literally the secretary.
▶ No.909849
>>909810
that's because a bunch of pedos ran unpatched web browsers with JS and other huge surfaces you stupid nigger. it's not hard to deanonymize someone once you get RCE on their system but i don't think you understand any of these concepts