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 No.901175>>901178 >>901184 >>901196 >>901207 >>901287 >>901411 >>901453 >>901482 >>901506 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

There's a lot we can learn from the great programmers of our time. What follows is a list of quotes from them relevant to /tech/...

>I have a mouse, but don't have a mouse driver for MINIX and have never felt the need to write one. Typing "rm x y z" is a lot faster than clicking five times and then having to convince the system that you really, truly, mean it and this is not a mistake and that you are consenting adult over 18 and that you completely understand the consequences and you still want to do it.

>I can type faster than I can point. And my mother told me that pointing is impolite.

>UNIX does not allow path names to be prefixed by a drive name or number; that would be precisely the kind of device dependence that operating systems ought to eliminate.

>The only real argument for monolithic systems was performance, and there is now enough evidence showing that microkernel systems can be just as fast as monolithic systems.

- Andrew S. Tanenbaum

>From an operating system research point of view, Unix is if not dead certainly old stuff, and it's clear that people should be looking beyond it.

>Unix has retarded OS research by 10 years and linux has retarded it by 20.

>Steve Jobs has said that Xwindows is brain-damamged and will disappear in two years. He got it half-right.

>One of the obvious things that went wrong with Multics as a commercial success was just that it was sort of over-engineered in a sense. There was just too much in it.

- Dennis Ritchie

>Avoiding complexity reduces bugs.

>I started Linux as a desktop operating system. And it's the only area where Linux hasn't completely taken over. That just annoys the hell out of me.

>I'd like to point out that I don't think that there is anything fundamentally superior in the GPL as compared to the BSD license, for example. But the GPL is what I want to program with, because unlike the BSD license it guarantees that anybody who works on the project in the future will also contribute their changes back to the community.

>Security people are often the black-and-white kind of people that I can't stand. I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.

>A computer is like air conditioning - it becomes useless when you open Windows

>And what's the Internet without the rick-roll?

- Linus Torvalds

>Proprietary software tends to have malicious features. The point is with a proprietary program, when the users dont have the source code, we can never tell. So you must consider every proprietary program as potential malware.

>If the users don't control the program, the program controls the users. With proprietary software, there is always some entity, the "owner" of the program, that controls the program and through it, exercises power over its users. A nonfree program is a yoke, an instrument of unjust power.

>Writing non-free software is not an ethically legitimate activity, so if people who do this run into trouble, that's good! All businesses based on non-free software ought to fail, and the sooner the better.

>Paying isn’t wrong, and being paid isn’t wrong. Trampling other people’s freedom and community is wrong, so the free software movement aims to put an end to it, at least in the area of software.

>Free software' is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of 'free' as in 'free speech,' not as in 'free beer'.

>I've read that male dolphins try to have sex with humans, and female apes solicit sex from humans. What is wrong with giving them what they want, if that's what turns you on, or even just to gratify them?

>I'm the last survivor of a dead culture. And I don't really belong in the world anymore. And in some ways I feel I ought to be dead.

- Richard Stallman

 No.901178>>901424 >>901730 >>901990

>>901175 (OP)

>>I've read that male dolphins try to have sex with humans, and female apes solicit sex from humans. What is wrong with giving them what they want, if that's what turns you on, or even just to gratify them?

thank you richard stallman


 No.901184>>901188 >>901189 >>901195 >>901208 >>901262 >>901435 >>901480

>>901175 (OP)

>I started Linux as a desktop operating system

He wrote a kernel. A fucking kernel for his Intel CPU because there was nothing else on the market that would use all the new features on his Intel® CPU.

He was lucky enough for the community to take it, improve it and port it to other architectures. Hell, he didn't even think it was possible for Linux to be used outside of i686 CPUs.

Not saying his job isn't important. The Linux kernel is a good program and without him who knows if GNU would have ever been completed; I just don't like that affirmation. Feels like a giant "fuck you" to the GNU Project developers who spent hours of their lives making a free operating system, only for Linus to come and take credit. He may disagree with Richard, but at least he had the tact to not call the OS "Stallmax."


 No.901188

>>901184

Linus may be a moronic lardass, but even I know that he initially called Freex or Freax what then became Linux, name given from one of his friends.


 No.901189>>901414

>>901184

Stallman was going to name his kernel Alix, after his girlfriend


 No.901195>>901198

>>901184

Fuck off with your autistic bullshit already, he made an OS using tools from the GNU project, not the other way around. The same way Volkerding made on OS out of Linux plus some useful programs on top. The same way Debian is an OS, not a collection of programs as your logic would imply. It's retarded that Stallman is all about everybody using the tools he made only to then want to take absolute credit on all of it. Fuck off.


 No.901196

>>901175 (OP)

Ritchie > Linus > Stallman > Tanenbaum


 No.901198>>901200 >>901393

>>901195

You can run Debian without any Linux but you can't run it without any GNU.


 No.901200>>901202

>>901198

That's only because GNU is a bigger part of what makes it Debian. You can still run Linux without GNU if you use busybox and BSD coreutils.


 No.901202>>901205

>>901200

If you think that's what it takes, you're underestimating the reaches of GNU. The coreutils are just a small part of GNU.

There's also glibc, GCC, GTK, GRUB, bash, Bison, half a dozen command line programs that are not part of the coreutils, and some other things I'm forgetting, probably. Many of those tend to be ignored not because they're unimportant but because they've managed to cross over to become standard parts of other operating systems.

You can get rid of those. I generally wouldn't call Alpine GNU/Linux. But Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is closer to the prototypical system people call "Linux" than Alpine Linux is.

Microsoft literally ported all of Ubuntu except Linux to Windows NT and called it "Linux on Windows". "Linux" might be the name we're stuck with, but that kernel can't make a good claim to being the defining part of the operating system.


 No.901205>>901216

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>>901202

>There's also glibc, GCC

These two are probably the most important, that don't affect only the GNU environment.

Also, Stallman is the mind behind POSIX. Don't forget that.


 No.901207>>901408

>>901175 (OP)

>Typing "rm x y z" is a lot faster than clicking five times

Pointing things with finger on a touch screen is faster

Using keyboard to navigate cursor and shift to select files is faster

Using TrackPoint® to navigate cursor is faster than a dedicated mouse or touch panel emulating mouse

> that you really, truly, mean it and this is not a mistake and that you are consenting adult over 18 and that you completely understand the consequences and you still want to do it.

That's basics of good user interface, some people understand them better than a jewish dude who wrote a cuck-licenced kernel for world wide botnet.

>I can type faster than I can point.

Not everyone's a typist or a basement neet to learn fast touch typing in their spare time.

>And my mother told me that pointing is impolite.

Oh look big mommy boy is speaking.

>>Steve Jobs has said that Xwindows is brain-damamged and will disappear in two years. He got it half-right.

Gee, who even thought putting a remote desktop server with open ports by default inside a window compositor was a good idea?


 No.901208

>>901184

I recall reading that he created an Unix clone because Unix was super expensive at the time.


 No.901216>>901416

>>901205

The mind behind POSIX's name, purely for strategic reasons. The name they were planning to use was inpronouncable and he foresaw that people would just keep saying "Unix", which would be unfortunate because he could say GNU was POSIX but not that it was Unix.

Standardization wasn't his idea, and he doesn't like certain things about POSIX. You need to set a POSIXLY_CORRECT environment variable to get certain POSIX behavior.

The name of that variable was originally going to be POSIX_ME_HARDER.


 No.901262

>>901184

>Stallmax

That would actually be a superbly cool sounding name!


 No.901287

>>901175 (OP)

>One of the obvious things that went wrong with Multics as a commercial success was just that it was sort of over-engineered in a sense. There was just too much in it.

inb4 blockquote spammer


 No.901370

>What is "UNIX"? In the narrowest sense, it is a time-sharing operating system kernel: a program that controls the resources of a computer and allocates them to its users.

From The UNIX Programming Environment, by Rob Pike and Brian Kernighan.

It's just Linux.


 No.901393>>901430

>>901198

Are you aware of Debian gnu/Hurd?

https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/


 No.901395

> Open source is not available to

commercial companies. The way the license is written, if you use any open-source

software, you have to make the rest of your software open source. If the government

wants to put something in the public domain, it should. Linux is not in the public domain.

Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it

touches. That's the way that the license works.

t. Steve Ballmer


 No.901408

>>901207

>Not everyone's a typist or a basement neet to learn fast touch typing in their spare time.

Typing WPM = IQ

Why care about what a bunch of low IQ'ers think?


 No.901411

>>901175 (OP)

Thanks for providing citations op


 No.901414>>901593

>>901189

>girlfriend

it was much sadder than that. "Alix" was married and was he entralled with her, naming his planned kernel (and later a HURD subsystem) after her in a boyish attempt to gain her attention.

I seriously doubt rms isn't a virgin.


 No.901416>>901692

>>901216

POSIX_MY_NEGHOLE


 No.901424>>901426 >>901430

Newfag in the /tech/world here.

what the actual fuck with that guy's >>901178.

I know how much he like to travel around the world, especially third world countries, maybe in some of that trips he acquired some weirdo fetish about bestiallity?


 No.901426>>901430

>>901424

>maybe in one some of those trips

fixed*

im just too overwhelmed thinking about stallman and a dolphin.


 No.901427>>901430

>maybe in one of those trips

fixxed**

jesus fucking christ, im a dyslexic now


 No.901430>>901996

>>901426

>>901424

>>901427

its ok I still love you! ^.^

>>901393

that doesn't even have audio afaik, and only ext2 filesystem, and like, barely anything.

I'd bet on Genode, Redox, or the inevitable debotneted fork of Fuchsia.

But for real, I just really want a usable microkernel OS!


 No.901435>>901444 >>901488 >>901506 >>901549 >>901914

>>901184

Oh please, all the fsf did was make a compiler, no one calls their programs <program>/c or <program>/python

Because that's stupid, if you bundle and make your own operating system with linux and verious other programs, you should be able to call it what you want.

Yes, linus made a kernel, but the deep part of it is that the kernel is what is behind most of the memory management on your system.

It's right down there with the cpu and it's making sure your programs run with the hardware you want it to run on.

Claiming it's just a small part of the operating system is stupid because it's one of the root processes running on the system.

Name me one thing the fsf has made AND COMPLETED that doesn't rely on the kernel. Hint: you fucking can't


 No.901444>>901449

>>901435

Not to mention there are atleast 3 modern competitors these days ICC, Clang, Visual C/C++ that all support recent specs. Competition from Intel, Apple, and Microsoft.


 No.901449>>901452

>>901444

>Visual C/C++

>support recent specs

afaik visual C++ isn't up to date with the most recent standard still, or at least it wasn't last time I checked.


 No.901452

>>901449

Its missing some of the very recent c++ 2017 additions but has all the "modern" c++ 2011 features that were the big changes


 No.901453>>901456

>>901175 (OP)

>And I don't really belong in the world anymore. And in some ways I feel I ought to be dead.

I knew I'd eventually agree with Stallman about something.


 No.901456

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>>901453

>>And I don't really belong in the world anymore. And in some ways I feel I ought to be dead.

>I knew I'd eventually agree with Stallman about something.

feels...


 No.901480>>901488

>>901184

Only POSIX considers stuff like cp, ls, rm to be an OS, other people don't have this retarded definition.


 No.901482>>901484 >>901487 >>901619

>>901175 (OP)

>I started Linux as a desktop operating system. And it's the only area where Linux hasn't completely taken over. That just annoys the hell out of me.

I seriously think that this is bullshit, given the trouble Kolivas had getting desktop performance patches accepted into the kernel. Most kernel devs don't care about how Linux performs on a machine that isn't a server.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con_Kolivas


 No.901484

>>901482

>Con Kolivas is an Australian anaesthetist

H-Holy shit.


 No.901487>>901914

>>901482

>Linus started Linux as a desktop OS

>Kolivas had a hard time getting his desktop-friendly scheduler merged into the kernel more than a fucking decade later

There's no incongruity here. What Linux was intended to be is different than what it became. A lot changed in 10-15 years of Linux development. This isn't a secret or a mystery to anyone.

Please try to be less retarded next time you post.


 No.901488>>901533

>>901435

Except that they have their own shitty kernel (mostly just CMU Mach). I think that it is capable of running Emacs, the real GNU Operating System (if only it had a decent text editor).

>>901480

> Only POSIX considers stuff like cp, ls, rm to be an OS, other people don't have this retarded definition.

I would disagree.

Think about DOS. What was DOS? DOS's kernel was a FAT filesystem interface (the BIOS generally was the HAL). DOS was also a shell and a collection of basic tools for operating on files (granted, most of those tools were implemented in the shell).

POSIX follows this DOS definition of Operating System: it defines an API that the kernel has to implement, and a collection of tools that come with the system (a shell being one of those tools).


 No.901506>>901523 >>901533

>>901175 (OP)

>I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys

I agree, Linus, I agree.

>>901435

>Oh please, all the fsf did was make a compiler

And a debugger, a text editor, a shell, and pretty much everything that makes a UNIX clone useful.


 No.901523>>901529

>>901506

Not like anyone else has one of those


 No.901529>>901531

>>901523

Do I smell moving goalposts? The FSF did way more than writing "just a compiler". Fact. Therefore anon (you?) was wrong. Period.


 No.901531>>901566 >>901914

>>901529

>Text Editor

Yeah no one else has those we gotta pray to the FSF

>A shell

FSF must have invented that no way any other projects made them

>Compiler

We really must thank GNU for making (even back then) yet another compiler


 No.901533>>901566 >>901885

>>901506

>And a debugger, a text editor, a shell,

>they made a text editor

oh wow, i've never seen one of those before...

>a shell

<what is dash

<what is csh

<what is ksh

<what is zsh

<what is fish

>debugger

Debuggers are common place with most programming languages, nothing new or even remotely special.

>>901488

>Except that they have their own shitty kernel

Please look back at the orignal post where i specified COMPLETED as you'll find that the hurd is in no way a functional kernel and is built on a broken system of doing things


 No.901549>>901572

>>901435

>no one calls their programs <program>/c or <program>/python because that's stupid

Literally everyone not working with C call their programs something even more retarded like pyprogram, programjs or jProgram


 No.901566>>901579 >>901916

>>901531

>>901533

>moved goalposts


 No.901572>>901577

>>901549

You are literally incorrect.


 No.901577>>901605

>>901572

He's not, though. Node.JS, Angular.JS, React.JS, asm.JS, javaPOS, pychess, pygame, pyxplot, etc.


 No.901579


 No.901587

File (hide): ac5607286e28ee9⋯.mp4 (5.1 MB, 640x360, 16:9, nigger cattle.mp4) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]

These guys are a bunch of nigger cattle herders tbh. Keeping everyone contained in ring 3.


 No.901593

>>901414

https://www.stallman.org/articles/childhood-sweetheart.html

>a beautiful and clever but rather too forceful woman asked me to be her lover. I had some doubts but wouldn't reject the idea out of hand. So she spent the night with me.


 No.901605>>901618

>>901577

He is, though. youtube-dl, mpsyt, Mathics, Hexo, Metalsmith, Django, Flask, lynxchan (!!).

I literally think that neither of you literally understand what the word "literally" means. Like, literally.


 No.901618>>901633

>>901605

The figurative meaning of "literally" is "figuratively", unfortunately. It's an easy way to make a hyperbole. That's just how languages develop.

I avoid using it that way myself but most people would understand that it was used in a hyperbolic way in that post.


 No.901619>>901630

>>901482

Most kernel devs don't care about how Linux performs on a machine that isn't a server.

Not true. They also care about embedded :^)


 No.901624

lets be honest here its pain to work with and its libraries are not designed to accommodate say games or day to day stuff

its failed there, the so called "UI"s are fucking annoying pieces of shit compared to what say Win7 has


 No.901630

>>901619

>Not true. They also care about embedded :^)

The funny thing is that's not even true. Most embedded systems use proprietary OEM patches for performance related shit that never ends up in mainline


 No.901633>>901639 >>901686

>>901618

>It's an easy way to make a hyperbole.

It's a lazy way to make a hyperbole, and it's a favorite rhetorical device of hyperventilating Millennials on Twitter OMG I am going to *literally* die if I don't get the new iPhone, like, 5 minutes ago. It has no place here, and people who think it does should literally* kill themselves.

*not meant figuratively!


 No.901639

>>901633

>OMG I literally don't understand hyperbole when my point is defeated by a smarter anon


 No.901686

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>>901633

>It has no place here

Because you say so? Try and stop me, anon.


 No.901692

>>901416

POSIX_ME_NIGGER


 No.901730>>901990

>>901178

Someone please make an image with a photo of Richard Stallman and the quote.


 No.901772>>901888

>Memespouting from the kike (((Andrew S. Tanenbaum)))

>I've read that male dolphins try to have sex with humans, and female apes solicit sex from humans. What is wrong with giving them what they want, if that's what turns you on, or even just to gratify them?

t. the degenerate mind of a kike


 No.901835

>RMS has or had a number of geek chick groupies. None of them could be called "hot", really -- well except for this one little psycho Jewish undergrad from NYC. He would sleep with them on the sofa in his office. That's why he got kicked out of floor 7, and down to the 3rd floor: that the cleaning staff complained about pulling used condoms out from behind the sofas.

>For necrophilia, it might be necessary to ask the next of kin for permission if the decedent's will did not authorize it. Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my corpse, the first being scientific or medical use. Once my dead body is no longer of any use to me, it may as well be of some use to someone. Besides, I often enjoy rhinophytonecrophilia (nasal sex with dead plants).


 No.901885>>901916

>>901533

>Please look back at the orignal post where i specified COMPLETED as you'll find that the hurd is in no way a functional kernel

Please look back at my original post, where I specified that Hurd could run Emacs, and is therefore functional (for a lousy definition of functional).


 No.901888>>901951

>>901772

DA JOOOOOOOZ

>>>/pol/


 No.901914>>901929

>>901435

That's is the example of an intellectually poor individual with opinions based on jewtube content.

>>901487

brainlets tend to ignore temporal scaling. This is due the mono dimensional thinking that its frail and simple brains are chained to. Please be understanding.

>>901531

There is so much fsf has done to tech community... You are making a scene of yourself. Please teach yourself some backstoring and educational content before posting again.


 No.901916>>901962

>>901885

>it can run emacs

>can't run anything else

It's incomplete and shit.

>>901566

>moved goalposts

Oh noes! the goobergator is mad and is using buzzwords that mean jack shit!

What will i ever do!

Are you seriously this assmad that linux is infact an operating system? you want daddy communist to poz your neghole more?

If that's what you want, theres this nice place called /g/ on this other website that would be the perfect fit for (you)


 No.901929>>901962

>>901914

>There is so much fsf has done to tech community.

They made a bad license and a shit ton of bloated programs.


 No.901951

File (hide): 4dc8dc18a4ec4d0⋯.webm (391.24 KB, 426x240, 71:40, take a closer look.webm) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]


 No.901962>>901964 >>901966

File (hide): 90c4c60ff324f7e⋯.jpg (903.19 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, richard stallman.jpg) (h) (u)

>>901929

>>901916

>They made a bad license

That license is excellent, and far superior to any of your permissive ones, because it not only grants the user freedoms, it protects the code from treachery.

Proprietary software is inherently evil. It does not give the users the right to run the program as they wish, study it and change it so that it does their computing as they want to, redistribute copies freely, or distribute copies of modified versions. The second of these is highly important, as it is the one that necessitates that the code is publicly released, highly mitigating the chances of malicious behavior on the part of the developer.

Therefore, it is odd that those such as yourself would prefer a license that provides no protections against proprietary software companies incorporating Free Software into their products without having to also distribute their modifications under the same license.

Not only that, BSD people actually PROMOTE the unethical actions of proprietary software companies, as can be seen from the frontpage of the Lumina desktop environment's website.

>Lumina is distributed under the 3-clause BSD license, allowing it to be used by anyone, anywhere (including in proprietary distributions).

Note the (including in proprietary distributions). They promote this as if it is a feature, when in fact it is a serious problem.

From https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

> Certain kinds of rules about the manner of distributing free software are acceptable, when they don't conflict with the central freedoms. For example, copyleft (very simply stated) is the rule that when redistributing the program, you cannot add restrictions to deny other people the central freedoms. This rule does not conflict with the central freedoms; rather it protects them.

>In the GNU project, we use copyleft to protect the four freedoms legally for everyone. We believe there are important reasons why it is better to use copyleft. However, noncopylefted free software is ethical too. See Categories of Free Software for a description of how “free software,” “copylefted software” and other categories of software relate to each other.

Your BSD license is certainly a Free Software license, but it does not provide PROTECTIONS for your freedom. See the below excerpt:

From https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html

> Many GNU libraries are covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License, but not all. One GNU library which is covered by the ordinary GNU GPL is Readline, which implements command-line editing. I once found out about a nonfree program which was designed to use Readline, and told the developer this was not allowed. He could have taken command-line editing out of the program, but what he actually did was rerelease it under the GPL. Now it is free software.

>The programmers who write improvements to GCC (or Emacs, or Bash, or Linux, or any GPL-covered program) are often employed by companies or universities. When the programmer wants to return his improvements to the community, and see his code in the next release, the boss may say, “Hold on there---your code belongs to us! We don't want to share it; we have decided to turn your improved version into a proprietary software product.”

>Here the GNU GPL comes to the rescue. The programmer shows the boss that this proprietary software product would be copyright infringement, and the boss realizes that he has only two choices: release the new code as free software, or not at all. Almost always he lets the programmer do as he intended all along, and the code goes into the next release.

>The GNU GPL is not Mr. Nice Guy. It says no to some of the things that people sometimes want to do. There are users who say that this is a bad thing---that the GPL “excludes” some proprietary software developers who “need to be brought into the free software community.”

>But we are not excluding them from our community; they are choosing not to enter. Their decision to make software proprietary is a decision to stay out of our community. Being in our community means joining in cooperation with us; we cannot “bring them into our community” if they don't want to join.

>What we can do is offer them an inducement to join. The GNU GPL is designed to make an inducement from our existing software: “If you will make your software free, you can use this code.” Of course, it won't win 'em all, but it wins some of the time.


 No.901964>>901988

>>901962

>Keeping source code to yourself is unethical.

>All food must come with instructions on how to make it in the packaging

HAHAHAHA


 No.901966>>901980

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>>901962

The GPL is considered harmful:

http://gng.z505.com/cult.htm

http://gng.z505.com/stallmanism.htm

http://z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=Please-Stop-Using-GNU-Licenses

http://gng.z505.com/fsf-gnu-site-bug.htm

I'm glad other people have been posting this website lately. Stallman claimed OpenBSD "has non-free software" because he failed to understand the ports system - he also was completely ignorant of how Theo has railed against blobs for drivers (they still are fighting against them now, even though Linux has given up - Theo even got an award from the FSF).

http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143355112811564&w=2

>Can't steal what's given away for free.

>The fact that people can use BSD software in proprietary projects is an unavoidable side effect of the fact that you can use BSD software in *any* software project, including any free license.

>GPL is incompatible with so many free licenses it's not even funny. It's even incompatible with itself. If you've ever had to deal with software, one GPLv2 and the other GPLv3+ (copyright owned by the FSF who refused to relicense), you would hate the GPL too.

>Fuck the FSF for promoting incredibly long lawyerese-packed licenses. Fuck the FSF for promoting AND USING nonfree licenses like the GFDL and CC-BY-ND. Fuck the FSF (indirectly through the SFLC) for pushing monetary settlements for Busybox lawsuits instead of actually getting useful code contributions.

>How many Linuxfags know about OpenBSD's work reverse engineering wireless drivers and pushing vendors to open up documentation? How many know about OpenBSD standing up to the IETF for pushing patented protocols and OpenBSD's patent-free alternatives like CARP? Heck, their beloved FSF even recognized Theo for it back in the early 2000s - but ever since has worked to sabotage BSD's reputation in the free software community for "promoting nonfree software." What bullshit.


 No.901980

>>901966

>How many know about OpenBSD standing up to the IETF for pushing patented protocols and OpenBSD's patent-free alternatives like CARP? Heck, their beloved FSF even recognized Theo for it back in the early 2000s - but ever since has worked to sabotage BSD's reputation in the free software community for "promoting nonfree software." What bullshit.

I didn't know these parts. The only cancer/danger of the GPL is if (((they))) every take over the GNU foundation and turn it all closed source via redhat which is the CIA.


 No.901981>>902009

>some lawyer turned hippie is mad that people say Linux instead of "unoriginal concepts stolen from Bell engineers/Linux"


 No.901988

>>901964

>muh 'faymily sikrit'

Keep enjoying that MSM-enriched SoyMeat™ with processed palm oil, m8.


 No.901990>>901995

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 No.901995>>902013

>>901990

Does Stallman know where AIDs came from?


 No.901996

>>901430

It's just a simple counter-example, you have the option so I wanted to make it known. If you want a usable micro kernel OS consider minix 3 which is compatible with netbsd and should be the most functional foss micro kernel.


 No.902009

>>901981

>RMS

>lawyer

?


 No.902013

>>901995

>Does Stallman know where AIDs came from?

>AIDs

Why do brainlets always do this? It's AIDS, not AIDs. The S stands for "Syndrome", it's not there to pluralize AID.




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