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 No.891211>>891220 >>891274 >>891279 >>891571 >>891765 >>891814 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Is a single skilled developer more efficient than 100 pajeets?

 No.891213>>891229 >>891330 >>891527 >>891765 >>892044

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The efficiency is logarithmic. I made a sketch for you.


 No.891220>>891287 >>891474 >>891506 >>891760

>>891211 (OP)

No, almost all programs are simple CRUD apps. There is nothing complicated about simple business logic that updates a couple values in a DB and displays them. Pajeet can do fine. Not every fucking program requires a doctorate, or deep knowledge of assembly.


 No.891221>>891235

More numbers always adds confusion, not coherency. Things like task delegation are done purely to lessen the liability, not as a form of utilisation


 No.891222>>891330 >>891443 >>892455

is a single skilled musician more efficient than 100 rappers?


 No.891229

>>891213

heh, jokes on you. i program in my sleep.


 No.891235>>891237

>>891221

>Things like task delegation are done purely to lessen the liability

This is an exaggeration.


 No.891237

>>891235

>One guy should write everything like TempleOS that would be so usable.

OP is crazy


 No.891270

no no no wrong approach

what you want is a sort skilled developer that leads 100 pajeets to do more of what he needs in shorter time


 No.891274>>891282

>>891211 (OP)

A single skilled developer creates his own company, then eventually let pajeets do the work for him.


 No.891279>>893286

>>891211 (OP)

POO


 No.891282

>>891274

>not having pride in your work


 No.891287>>891288 >>891311 >>891328

>>891220

>Not every fucking program requires a doctorate

Today's HR might beg to differ, you know.


 No.891288>>891290 >>891328 >>891355

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>>891287

Forgot pic.


 No.891290

>>891288

>office jobs are out of your reach if for reasons whatever (money/family/etc.) you weren't able to continue education well into adult years


 No.891311>>891353 >>891394 >>891479 >>892223

>>891287

You don't have to have a degree, just people without degrees tend to be too retarded. Companies love a good github profile proving you can actually write code over a degree.


 No.891328

>>891287

>>891288

>blaming ISO9000 again

>not bending HR over and slamming into their buttocks until you get the job you want


 No.891330

>>891213

>>891222

This. One advantage of the 100 Pajeets is they require building fewer restrooms than the 1 dev.


 No.891353

>>891311

>people without degrees tend to be too retarded

And that's the bottom line for HR drones, they don't care about anyone's github collection of fizzbuzzes and helloworlds. no degree == intothetrashitgoes.jpg > 95% of the time.


 No.891355>>891394

>>891288

So true. For the previous generation the rift was between those who graduated high school and those who did not. Now the rift is between those who at least have a bachelor or engineer degree (ironically enough what the actual major is doesn't matter more often than it does) and those who do not.


 No.891390>>891418

One interesting poster to an imageboard is more worthwhile than 100 teenage spastics who get excited writing "pajeets'.


 No.891394>>891438 >>891472 >>891576

>>891311

>>891355

>people without degrees tend to be too retarded

That's because back then those retarded people never even graduated from high-school or were too poor to afford it. HS diplomas are basically worthless now because "everyone must have a HS diploma" (education quality be damned). So now we have retards who can barely read getting a HS diploma.

If the "everyone must have a degree" trend keeps up, it will eventually repeat and undergrad education will become the new baseline level (i.e. quality bar lowered to the ground, degree mills handing out empty diplomas like candy).


 No.891418>>891473

>>891390

t. pajeet


 No.891438>>891516

>>891394

>If the "everyone must have a degree" trend keeps up, it will eventually repeat and undergrad education will become the new baseline level (i.e. quality bar lowered to the ground, degree mills handing out empty diplomas like candy).

That's practically already the case. I've been considering getting a milled degree and just being done with it. Just like lying about work history, I very much doubt anyone is going to make an effort to check your school credentials as long as you can do the job.


 No.891443>>891515

>>891222

it used to depend on the goal.

but now, shit music can be produced automatically on computers, so bad rappers have no use cases.

good rappers are another thing though, and they usually are also skilled musicians. an example: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ4FyiI_1mWI2AtLS5ChdPQ


 No.891472

>>891394

It's happening already. Everyone can get a bachelor degree in the UK, you need to sign up and get a student loan.


 No.891473>>891596

>>891418

>look ma. i posted it again.


 No.891474>>891870

>>891220

>No, almost all programs are simple CRUD apps. There is nothing complicated about simple business logic that updates a couple values in a DB and displays them. Pajeet can do fine.

Have you seen the code pajeets write for simple CRUD apps? They don't even follow the CRUD pattern, they tend to just shit all over the code and produce something that just barely meets minimum requirements. I know because I have to maintain their designated shitting legacy software.


 No.891479>>891489

>>891311

>Companies love a good github profile proving you can actually write code

No, companies love a good github profile proving you are actually willing to write code free of charge.


 No.891489

>>891479

This. How is github different from facebook as far as the general concept goes? The latter encourages you to put as much as possible general information concerning you online for anyone to access and use for whatever purpose they choose, while the "mandatory github profile" meme does the same, just with "general information concerning you" being substituted with "source code you write".


 No.891492

I bet theres always a single skilled developer fixing all the pajeet code behind the scenes to keep the company afloat.


 No.891506>>891870

>>891220

Your typical CRUD shit is buggy as fuck though.


 No.891515>>891518

>>891443

>instead of learning about these things of which i am so ignorant about and in such dire need of the knowledge of i will instead change my gender to female and create rap music with a pretend british accent and relentlessly complain about my own ignorance of the aforementioned subject material


 No.891516

>>891438

DO IT FAGGOT


 No.891518

>>891515

>change my gender to female

WAT

who said that?


 No.891527

>>891213

jokes on u


 No.891571

>>891211 (OP)

Depends on the task. If it's retard-simple business logic, then he will be equivalent to a few shitters at most code quality notwithstanding. If it's a complex task however, whole streets' worth of poo production won't keep up with him.

sage for poo thread


 No.891576>>891766

>>891394

<people without degrees tend to be too retarded

imagine that applying to university level education too, i swear to god there will come a time where the common man will realize that getting diplomas in universities is equally worthless. Sage for off topic.


 No.891596>>891604

>>891473

>t. Pajeet

don't you have some filthy shithole rivers to bathe in because they're holy?


 No.891604>>891605

>>891596

>look ma, i posted it again


 No.891605

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 No.891760>>891870

>>891220

>doctorate

>assembly

Of course you can hire a team of retards that will build eventually a system that from the outside seems to produce more-or-less the appropriate output to the given input.

Hell, if the expected lifetime of your app is a few months, it might even be sensible to use them if you've already got them on your payroll.

On the other hand, if you find a good couple of devs you can probably produce better results at a faster pace and overall cheaper price.


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 No.891766>>891794 >>891814 >>891996

>>891576

I feel like most of the people posting this on image boards have either no degree, or a business/art/social science/etc degree. At least in my experience physics, mathematics, engineering tend to keep most of the retards out. You could potentially get through these if you are really good at memorizing but its unlikely.


 No.891794

>>891766

a classic april fools post


 No.891814>>891817 >>891996

>>891211 (OP)

>Is a single skilled developer more efficient than 100 pajeets?

The problem with pajeets (offshoring) is usually poor communication, due to the language barrier.

Coders hate when you say their job is easy, but most work is just CRUD apps.

Credentials inflation is a thing in the US, and it's due to employment discrimination laws, not shitty HR directors.

Programming used to be a good job in the US 20 years ago but it has gotten to be less and less so as time goes on. Most companies do not value their IT departments, and are more than willing to off-load the work to the lowest bidder. The only companies who usually care about who does their coding is the ones who mainly produce software.

>>891766

>I feel like most of the people posting this on image boards have either no degree, or a business/art/social science/etc degree. At least in my experience physics, mathematics, engineering tend to keep most of the retards out.

Yea, but then a lot of places only want "recent college grads" (who won't ask for a lot of compensation) and they tend not to hire anyone over 40. If your masters degree programming job doesn't pay enough to retire at ~40, you may have a problem ahead....


 No.891817>>891821

>>891814

>they tend not to hire anyone over 40. If your masters degree programming job doesn't pay enough to retire at ~40, you may have a problem ahead....

So... wat do at 40? What do most /tech/ careers become at and after that point?


 No.891821

>>891817

>So... wat do at 40? What do most /tech/ careers become at and after that point?

They don't fire you are 40, they just stop giving you raises that keep up with inflation.

What you do is you quit and go into consulting. Otherwise known as the "gig economy".


 No.891870>>891871

>>891506

>>891474

>>891760

I have scene what your average white dev writes after they get out of American university and its much fucking worse. The Pajeets that actually made it to America were much better by comparison.

All the pajeets that were actually in India were always shit in my experience though.


 No.891871


 No.891880>>891882 >>891883 >>891915 >>900974

>be american

>learn some basic html, css and javascript

>get $100K starting salary

how can you not be rich as fuck when you live in USA?


 No.891882>>893165

>>891880

evils of capitalism something something low minimum wage something something muh europe


 No.891883>>891884

>>891880

>learn some basic html, css and javascript

>get $100K starting salary

Not really, harder and higher paying disciplines of ee/cs have starting salaries around $70k, unless you get a job in an extremely high cost of living area where it could go up to around $90k


 No.891884

>>891883

That 100k starting salary would be in SF obviously


 No.891915>>891927 >>891996

>>891880

>make 100k in san francisco

>instantly surrender 30k to takes

>spend 3-4k a month on a shitty apartment so you can get to work on time

>step in hobo shit on the way to work at least once a week requiring a new pair of shoes

>$19.50 for a large soy latte and tofu burrito every morning

>probably donate the rest to niggers4america or some shit


 No.891927>>891962

>>891915

Driving an hour lets you avoid all that shit. And still get paid a shit ton. You just have to drive a couple hours a day (which tons of people do in tons of industries).


 No.891962>>891976

>>891927

t. noguns


 No.891976>>892203

>>891962

You think california has no guns?


 No.891996>>892000

>>891766

you make it sound as if people who get degrees are worth anything on average

>>891814

>Coders hate when you say their job is easy, but most work is just CRUD apps.

and yet they're still buggy as fuck. full of race conditions, state corruption, SQLi, XSS, CSRF, clickjacking, improper crypto, and whatever other meme vulnerabilities only webshit is prone to

>>891915

kek. you don't have to work in SF though


 No.892000>>892012

>>891996

>and yet they're still buggy as fuck

fixings not worth the cost


 No.892012>>892019

>>892000

well pretty much. the software is objectively shit but that's good enough for the market


 No.892019

>>892012

You care more about features than quality. Look at all the shitty software you use.


 No.892044>>892219

>>891213

This, except

>log(0)==0


 No.892045

nope


 No.892203

>>891976

They make it harder to buy and hold onto them every year.

That said, you're still allowed to inherit any and all arms from your relatives, and my grandfather actually has an old AR-15 under his bed, issued to him by the Army way back when. I guess they let him keep it, in exchange for never returning his SS card.


 No.892219>>892224

>>892044

log(0) == -Inf


 No.892223>>892233

>>891311

If people who are themselves competent are doing hiring, they will consider any candidate and will judge their competence. On the other hand, people who themselves got some random degree just to have one, and somehow snuck into a position where they are hiring others, will judge candidates on the grounds of whether they have just any degree or not (they mostly feel insecure and want to fence themselves off from "plebs without degrees").


 No.892224>>892245

>>892219

t. brainlet

You can't explicitly equal infinity, and log(0) doesn't exist. The right side limit of log(x) as x -> 0 is -inf though. The limit as x -> 0 also doesn't exist since you can't approach 0 from the left.


 No.892233>>892238

>>892223

And you think most jobs are through HR departments? Because that's not true.


 No.892238>>892242 >>892243 >>892459

>>892233

It's either through HR or through nepotism.


 No.892242>>892250

>>892238

>It's either through HR or through nepotism.

This is what NEETS actually believe


 No.892243>>892250

>>892238

Yea impossible to actually meet someone that could get you a job outside of your family or a massive college degree mill.


 No.892245>>892247

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>>892224

Now tell me what log(kys) is


 No.892247>>892248 >>892255

>>892245

You know that programming languages don't accurately describe mathematics right? You literally wrote a c program using float point. The same system where "0.1 + 0.2 = 0.30000000000000004". Really a great argument you made there.


 No.892248>>892257

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>>892247

>floating point precision is at all relevant when representing objects such as +inf or -inf

>wolfram alpha answers are not genera but are restrained by programming language or computer system implementation minutiae

log(0) is not a real number, that I'll give you. If you restrict the range of the log() function to be real numbers then log(0) indeed is undefined. But if you add infinity objects to the range then you'll have a value, and the C and Wolfram Alpha results for that expression express exactly that.


 No.892250>>892254

>>892242

>>892243

>getting jobs "through friends" is not nepotism

>getting hired if being recommended for a job by a friend won't get blocked by HR anyway if corporate policy requirements (such as candidates being obliged to hold a degree) are not met

>somehow bypassing coporate policy requirements with the help of "friends" (I assume) would not qualify as nepotism

ok


 No.892254>>892258 >>892259

>>892250

Another NEET that thinks the whole fucking world as against him. That thinks you have to have a friend in the company, that thinks you gotta have that piece of paper. Look faggot its called networking. You go out into the world and meet people. You go to any place with smart people and they will all have jobs in an industry. You go to a conference, hackerspace, whatever. Most jobs are not mega corps with 10 thousand person HR departments. Chances are one of these people you meet needs more co-workers. You show small talk about the latest tech, show them things you have made, and with a little effort you land yourself a job.


 No.892255>>892257

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 No.892257>>892265

>>892248

>But if you add infinity objects to the range then you'll have a value, and the C and Wolfram Alpha results for that expression express exactly that.

In the case of the C program its just floating point bullshit. Floating point is not an accurate reflection of even addition.

> But if you add infinity objects to the range

The limit is what you are reading not the value. These are not the same thing.

>>892255

>Floating point math that gets even trivial addition wrong is good argument


 No.892258>>892260 >>892262

>>892254

>You show small talk about the latest tech, show them things you have made, and with a little effort you land yourself a job.

if only it were that easy, reality is quite different though. (you) seem to be floating in some kind of bubble, seeing the world around you as it looks like through the bubble which skews both shapes and colors


 No.892259>>892281

>>892254

How anything you said can be seen as an argument against the presence of nepotism?


 No.892260

>>892258

>How anything you said can be seen as an argument against the presence of nepotism?

Right so you think talking to literally anyone that works at the company other than the HR department is nepotism. Amazing.


 No.892262>>892267 >>892270

>>892258

NEETS will always be worthless scum. They make up excuses instead of solving their problems. You don't go to conferences, you don't go to meetups, you don't go to hackerspaces, all the places full of people with tech jobs, all over the western world. Yea total bubble.


 No.892265>>892269

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>>892257

>The limit is what you are reading not the value. These are not the same thing.

Then Wofram Alpha should by all means explicitly point it out, being the know-it-all-bird that is supposes itself to be and whatnot.

>In the case of the C program its just floating point bullshit. Floating point is not an accurate reflection of even addition.

As hinted at above (>>892248), floating point precision is irrelevant here. +/- infinity are "special" values IEEE754 (all exponent bits set and all mantissa bits zeroed). In addition to those, there's also floating-point "not a number" representations (same as above but with mantissa being non-zero) - if log(0) ought to be considered undefined/indeterminate (as you suggest), then why does C claim it's "-inf" and not "nan"?


 No.892267>>892277

>>892262

>You don't go to conferences

no conferences held in muh basement, sorry

>hackerspaces

*tips fedora*


 No.892269>>892272

>>892265

> +/- infinity are "special" values IEEE754

Them having special bits to be set for them does not mean that they are an accurate reflection of mathematics. Floating point is all about compressing numbers.

>then why does C claim it's "-inf" and not "nan"?

They probably decided to take the limit of the equation.

>Then Wofram Alpha should by all means explicitly point it out

Yea, its weird that wolfram would contradict the rest of mathematics without mentioning why


 No.892270>>892271

>>892262

>conferences and hackerspaces are choke-full of people who are at liberty to make hiring decisions at their own discretion, and will gladly hire any anon who does some small talk about some current things in tech and/or shows them some professional fizzbuzz engineering on his github

yea, no. not usually


 No.892271>>892302

>>892270

> them some professional fizzbuzz engineering on his github

If all you can do is shitty fizzbuzz you cant do a job anyways

>conferences and hackerspaces are choke-full of people who are at liberty to make hiring decisions at their own discretion

Not everyone is literally the boss, most people don't work at mega corps though. This is how the real world works. You network with people. You seem to think that the the real world is behind a computer screen where you have to use the online web application. Thats not how things work.


 No.892272>>892273

>>892269

>Them having special bits to be set for them does not mean that they are an accurate reflection of mathematics. Floating point is all about compressing numbers.

I see a one-to-one mapping between the mathematical object that is "minus infinity" and the IEEE754 bit pattern that represents "-inf" (or whatever string you use to represent it as characters if necessary).


 No.892273>>892274 >>892283

>>892272

Yea they have the same symbol so much be defined the same way. Sure thing. People don't reuse symbols with tweaked meanings. Like the floating point + symbol. That must mean full addition right? O wait.


 No.892274

>>892273

*must be


 No.892275>>892285

10^x = 0

That's the definition of log(0), and x is its result. Protip: 10^0 = 1


 No.892277>>892279

>>892267

Counterpoint: The reason fedoralords outshine people like you at hackerspaces is because people like you refuse to show up and make those places interesting.


 No.892279

>>892277

More like people in tech are just generally communist, or at best libertarian.


 No.892281

>>892259

Not that anon but I think they are saying things aren't as clear cut as that. There is a difference between networking and getting a job only because your sister's boyfriend works at the company. I think that is treading a fine line, but it is true that networking is important if you want a decent job.


 No.892283>>892286 >>892288

>>892273

Unary + and binary + are two separate operators in C, that's true (even though they are conceptually kinda the same given that "+x" really is shorthand for "0+x"). However, "plus/minus infinity" are specific mathematical objects which extend the real line, and suggesting that their floating point representations are conceptually different (as least as much as C's "unary +" is different from its "binary +") is an odd proposition.


 No.892285>>892288

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>>892275

And 10^(-inf)== 0 also. No contradictions here.


 No.892286>>892291

>>892283

>is an odd proposition.

Yes its an odd proposition that that floating point would differ in more ways than addition subtraction multiplication division, etc.


 No.892288

>>892285

>>892283

The value is not infinity. The limit of the operation is +/- Infinity. Its a statement that the value approaches in a direction. Not the value.


 No.892289>>892297

File (hide): 475833e1fa12d7f⋯.png (91.31 KB, 831x534, 277:178, pepper.png) (h) (u)

Please finish high school mathematics anons.


 No.892291>>892293 >>892295

>>892286

Minus infinity is minus infinity is minus infinity. How many different things could it possibly mean?


 No.892292


 No.892293

>>892291

I would have thought that 0.1 + 0.2 would equal 0.3 but not in your magic system.


 No.892295

>>892291

Well it could mean that the limit of the calculation approaches a positive or negative direction.


 No.892297>>892315


 No.892302

File (hide): 7c99cad7f46835c⋯.png (34.22 KB, 621x942, 207:314, hurr_fizzbuzz.png) (h) (u)

>>892271

>shitty fizzbuzz


 No.892315>>892322

>>892297

I'm not entirely sure that Φ the value in this case. I just briefly skimmed some of the articles and didn't read his paper, but we aren't talking about 0/0 or about 0^0 so I don't think Φ is the number we are looking for. If his paper proves that the number we are looking for is Φ then let me know and I will read the paper.


 No.892322>>892324

>>892315

I suppose his "nullity" object is basically what NaN is in IEEE 754, i.e. anything expression that is neither a real number nor +/- infinity is "nullity". However, I think his system might also work such that log(0) would be assigned the value of negative infinity and not "nullity".


 No.892324>>892327 >>892330

>>892322

The value is not "negative infinity" like you keep saying. Its a statement that the value is approaching a direction. Its the limit of the calculation, not the result of the calculation. This is highschool math.


 No.892327>>892341

>>892324

Tell it to Wolfram and Stallman (or whoever is currently responsible for GCC).


 No.892330>>892332 >>892339 >>892341

>>892324

>gcc says log(0) is -infinity

>mathematica says log(0) is -infinity

>geogebra says log(0) is -infinity

>microsoft mathematics says log(0) is -infinity

hmm


 No.892332>>892371

>>892330

Desmos calculator says ln(0) = undefined. But then again it says 0^0 = 1, so hmmmmm.


 No.892339>>892343 >>892352

>>892330

>I will ignore the laws of mathematics and base my knowledge entirely on the limits of binary representation of numbers.

Infinity is not a number anon, its an idea we came up with to make certain calculations more convenient. Neither log(0) nor the lim as x->0 of log(x) exist. They aren't real values (nor are they complex values for that matter).


 No.892341>>892342

>>892330

>>892327

>I am too stupid to interrupt what the calculator is telling me


 No.892342

>>892341

fuck *interpret


 No.892343>>892345 >>892352

>>892339

protip: we made every number up other than the natural numbers


 No.892345>>892346

>>892343

Ok? How exactly is that related to the conversation at hand? log is a function which can be used entirely with natural numbers if you so desire.


 No.892346>>892348

>>892345

Isn't zero a natural number though?


 No.892348

>>892346

Yes, that doesn't mean that every function must exist for all values being operated on.


 No.892352

>>892343

>numbers

Cardinals or ordinals? That's quite a difference.

>>892339

Numbers aren't a physical entity anon, it's an idea we came up with to make general calculations possible.


 No.892371>>892379

>>892332

But 0^0 is 1. Well, it's only a convention.


 No.892379>>892384

>>892371

0^x and x^0 have different limits at 0, so it probably makes less sense to assume 0^0 to be 1 than to assume log(0) to be minus infinity (in the latter case the left side limit doesn't exist but there's at least not two different limits like in the former).


 No.892384>>892425

>>892379

Remember that the limit as x -> y of f(x) has nothing to do with the value f(y) evaluates to. In many cases the limit happens to equal f(y) but that is purely coincidental. log(0) does not evaluate to anything (purely coincidental that the right side limit does in fact evaluate to something namely -inf) but 0/0 = Φ and 0^0 = Φ as was proven by the link above.


 No.892391>>892394

Hiring 100 pajeets is a waste of money. It is cheaper to hire a team of 10 skilled developers. The reason to network is to know who those people are so you can hire them. Otherwise, you are going to be stuck working with a bunch of retards who get offended when they are wrong.


 No.892394>>892453

>>892391

If the labor is low skill (CRUD apps) its a massive waste of money. Ten college graduates sorting on a factory line won't do much better than illiterate illegal immigrants.


 No.892411>>892415

Is a single unclogged toilet more efficient than a dozen designated shitting streets?


 No.892415

>>892411

You do realize that the Indians the come to America and take tech jobs are the upper classes right?


 No.892418>>892423

>le everything is CRUD meme

this is how i can tell someone has never programmed anything beyond a wikihow fizzbuzz tutorial


 No.892423>>892424 >>892426

>>892418

>has never programmed anything

This is how you know someone has never had a job. Almost every fucking program is business logic doing fairly simple operations on a database. You think people spend their time writing custom infrastructure code?


 No.892424>>892429

>>892423

>Almost every fucking program is business logic doing fairly simple operations on a database.

t. pajeet

Confirmed for never having a job AND never writing a single line of code.


 No.892425>>892448

>>892384

Please show me any example where the value of f:x^b at x=a and g:a^x at x=b aren't equal (other than when both a and b are 0).


 No.892426>>892431

>>892423

While you are correct that CRUD systems are the bread and butter of the programming industry, the programming industry is much larger than that. I love writing CRUD software because I can charge big bux for simple business processes.


 No.892429>>892440

>>892424

Stay in your mothers basement NEET while Pajeet gets the real work done.


 No.892431

>>892426

>the programming industry is much larger than that

Writing web frontends, phone apps, and CRUD backends, make up pretty much the entire industry. Whats left are retards who waste their time reinventing what has already been written. Then there are the one or two people working on a kernel or driver somewhere.


 No.892440

>>892429

Stay mad pajeet


 No.892448>>892485

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>>892425

I was talking about stuff like pic related. Which is relevant since some anon(you?) is claiming that its acceptable for log(0) = -inf since the right side lim as x->0 of log(x) = -inf. It obviously isn't acceptable since a. the limit has nothing to do with the value of the function at the point x approaches, and b. lim x->0 of log(x) does not even exist.


 No.892453>>892487

>>892394

Have you never sat in a cube next to a group of 5 pajeets struggling to figure out how to format a date over an entire day? Have you never encountered one who spent 2 weeks trying to figure out how to compare strings and determine where changes were made with absolute certainty? One of my contacts hired a pajeet thinking they were very intelligent and knowledgeable. I listened to how they were interviewed and told them to not hire them. I explained what they did wrong and what was going to occur. All I got in response was an incredulous reply and an accusation on how racist I seemed. Worst hire in the history of the company. The pajeet was tasked with bug fixes and somehow created more bugs than they fixed, and the fixes themselves only caused things to break in a different way. Not only that, but they also screamed at some of their best developers who tried to help. Was fired after a couple months.


 No.892455


 No.892457

Why use pajeets at all? Well, they are bodies with credentials, and they expend hours. Clients are charged for those hours. A skilled developer is more expensive than a single pajeet, but collectively, they will draw far more money from a company.


 No.892459>>892485

>>892238

I have yet to get an engineering job without nepotism. We call it 'networking'.


 No.892485>>892533

>>892448

>arbitrarily declaring the function value at some point to have nothing to do with the limits

Not an argument.

>>892459

>networking

Just an euphemism. I bet you'll also find a nice euphemism for people getting promotions and raised due to going for a smoke/for a drink/to bed/etc. with the right people.

<"hurr it's not nepotism, they just used all those socializing opportunities to prove how competent they are"


 No.892487

>>892453

>Was fired after a couple months.

The joke is that it is not at all clear who was fired (the pajeet, or those who were trying to get rid of him because "muh racism" etc.)


 No.892533>>892549 >>892552

>>892485

>>arbitrarily declaring the function value at some point to have nothing to do with the limits

I suggest you either return to and finish high school mathematics or do some serious review. The function I gave is a perfectly valid function and it is completely ok to take the limit as x -> 2. Calling it arbitrary because you don't understand it is: >Not an argument.


 No.892549>>892559

>>892533

I am talking about continuous functions (continuity is warranted by limits at a given point equal to the value of the function at that point), not frankenstein type functions which are defined differently across different ranges (including potential points of discontinuity due to "hurr let's f(x) be whatever for a certain x_0").

If the function x^0 is assumed continuous for any real x, it suggests 0^0 is 1, and if the function 0^x is assumed continuous for any real x, it suggests 0^0 is 0.


 No.892552>>892559

>>892533

Why do you define 0 for f(2) when it's a limit? I thought the point was that the values get infinitesimally close to 2 but never reach it.


 No.892559>>892565 >>892569

>>892549

You are still ignoring the fact that a limit only exists if both sides approach the same value. The whole reason this discussion was even taking place is become someone decided that -inf was a valid return for log(0) because they claimed that the limit as x->0 of log(x) = -inf. This is false, only one side of the limit approaches -inf and therefore the limit doesn't exist. Its made even more false by the fact the evaluation of log(y) has nothing to do with the evaluation of the limit as x -> y of log(x). They are entirely unrelated.

>>892552

Yep, that is exactly my point. The value of the function evaluated at the point the limit approaches is not necessarily the evaluation of the limit.


 No.892565>>892684

>>892559

>become someone decided that -inf was a valid return for log(0)

Then why does Wolfram Alpha (and most other math software) simply return -inf? It often spews out all sorts of caveats and conditions even for relatively much simpler and less "controversial" queries.


 No.892569

>>892559

>only one side of the limit approaches -inf and therefore the limit doesn't exist

How about demanding not two (positive, negative) but four limits (positive, negative, imaginary, negative imaginary) to exist for a value to exist?


 No.892684

>>892565

Because they expect mathematicians to know than the symbol negative infinity means the limit of the operations.


 No.893165

>>891882

>low minimum wage

It's ridiculously high in my eastern yuro cuntry. Around $4/h to be exact.


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 No.900974

>>891880

>get $100K starting salary

You know that's a myth, right?




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