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And, as we wrote before, this is how the CLOUD Act could work in practice:

London investigators want the private Slack messages of a Londoner they suspect of bank fraud. The London police could go directly to Slack, a U.S. company, to request and collect those messages. The London police would not necessarily need prior judicial review for this request. The London police would not be required to notify U.S. law enforcement about this request. The London police would not need a probable cause warrant for this collection.

Predictably, in this request, the London police might also collect Slack messages written by U.S. persons communicating with the Londoner suspected of bank fraud. Those messages could be read, stored, and potentially shared, all without the U.S. person knowing about it. Those messages, if shared with U.S. law enforcement, could be used to criminally charge the U.S. person in a U.S. court, even though a warrant was never issued.

Why wasn't this shit assblasted everywhere else like when that 'net neutrality' crap was happening? The EFF is far from being ubiased, but a 2,232 page bill is still flabbergasting. I guess that FOSTA bill passed the House also.

>steal tool

>use against tool maker

>>887120

>The EFF is far from being ubiased

True, but they're doing a far better job of watching out for this stuff than any of the right-wing sites I view. We focus on petty bullshit, so this easily slides through. Normies were concerned about 'muh facebook data'.

>>887120

This. The EFF, Reddit and a bunch other tech companies came together and made this faggy coalition https://www.internetdefenseleague.org/ back on SOPA and never used it again whatsoever

Ugh. Why does everything on the internet have to be botnet. Why do we let our government give backdoor access for the botnet to others.

This is not the future I want, but it's the future I'll get.

What does this mean for VPN logs?

If they can request logs, does the company have to corporate and under threat of what penalty?

If they must comply and there is no judge, can they make a constant stream of requests, for example, to live monitor all British i.p. addresses for illegal activity such as file sharing?

>..but but muh cloud muh web 2.0

How could they do this with their data?

>>887139

Exchange 'cloud' for 'email' if that helps. Or who knows, maybe 8chan logs.

>>887120

>Why wasn't this shit assblasted everywhere else like when that 'net neutrality' crap was happening?

Why do you think the media got as saturated with that net neutrality non-issue as it was?

>(((Obama))) passes law, conservatives screech

>(((Trump))) repeals law, liberals screech

>actual shit that matters passes unnoticed

Welcome to reality.

>>887140

Exchange 'not your computer' with 'email' or maybe use your brain.

>>887120

>Why wasn't this shit assblasted everywhere else like when that 'net neutrality' crap was happening?

Because braindead consumer niggercattle care too much about their Kikebook, Twatter and Snapcunt and don't want to have to choose between that and not being datamined/having their info leaked.

With net neutrality, niggercattle care because they want their streamed TV shows and movies on Kikeflix and Hulu to go unthrottled. Also, current proposed laws on net neutrality barely have anything to do with it anymore.

>>887126

>Why do we let our government give backdoor access for the botnet to others

Why stop at "our government"? No government should have any backdoor access to any botnet.

>>887235

>>Why do we let our government give backdoor access for the botnet to others

>Why stop at "our government"? No government should have any backdoor access to any botnet.

<botnets are ok if only corporations have access to them

GNO

>>887117 (OP)

good thing that my files are on my home server

>>887217

Don't put WrongThink on the internet mate, use your brain! When are lemmings like you going to die out?

>>887242

><botnets are ok if only corporations have access to them

I never impled that. It's painfully obvious botnets shouldn't exist in the first place, but they exist.

And corporations are in fact worse than governments, because as pozzed and co-opted as governments might be (by jews and corporations), corporations seek to internalize income while externalizing all costs and have a duty only to their shareholders, not the common citizen.

>>887120

Because reddit niggers don't care about privacy. All they care about is muh blue midterms

>>887279

>Sam Nunberg

He was just a minor aide, who had a meltdown on the tv networks a couple weeks ago. He's not even in control of his own drinking habit, and is likely bankrupt.

>>887117 (OP)

There's nothing private about storing something on someone else's computer, retard.

cant wait to nut as lady CIA officer looks on

So I guess this basically makes all the illegal shit the NSA has been doing for over a decade suddenly legal now?

This bill rider trick is the same thing Paul Ryan used to get CISPA passed at the end of 2015.

>>887313

And now instead of having to go through the courts, Bibi Netanyahu can just ask Jared.

Can we expect the supreme court to strike this down as a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment?

good luck tapping my swedish vpn

>>887263

I'm trying to help you here. Why do you think httpseverywhere and pgp encryption exist? Anything you upload to (((The Cloud))) you no longer own. There is somehow an implied right to email privacy which never existed. Assume Google and Microsoft are training bots on your spam. If you had a Yahoo email account, the US government already looked at it. Unless you're going through a trusted proxy, anyone high up could easily find where you go on the internet.

>>887135

>What does this mean for VPN logs?

Why on earth would you ever trust any company just because they said "trust us"?

>thread is already muh blumpf vs democraps

Reminder Net Neutrality is still in effect and doesn't expire until a few more months.

>there is a thing called "the CLOUD act"

nuke america

>Because of this failure,

your private emails,

literally who?

>your online chats,

literally who?

>your Facebook,

literally who?

>Google,

literally who?

>Flickr photos,

literally who?

>your Snapchat videos,

literally who?

>your private lives online,

literally who?

>your moments shared digitally between only those you trust,

literally who?

>will be open to foreign law enforcement without a warrant and with few restrictions on using and sharing your information

>>888136

>posting pseudointellectual NSA slides as if they have any bearing on anything or are some kind of threat

>>888181

CIA NSA OPNIGGERFAGGOT, no difference.

>shill

/your_post

How much is this act going to cost businesses now in monitoring their user-generated content?

>>888888

absolute shit get tbh

>>888903

What are you saying? Yeah. I confused CLOUD with FOSTA. I would rather know how CLOUD is going to cost businesses to adhere to international regulations instead of only following domestic laws and letting the Feds foot the bill.

>>888888

Checked!

>>888930

>Will this kill the cloudnigger trend? And bring back local storage / personal server trends?

Possibly. While US servers get ragged on because of muh NSA, many people from outside the country benefited from greater privacy protections here than in Europe, Asia, or Australia (lol Africa and South America). This CLOUD Act might cause a lot of small-to-medium sized hosting providers to be pushed out by the big boys like Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. And since people trust the big boys as much as they trust the NSA, there could very well be a push outside the US to find a better solution to this problem.

Really, this thing can't be good for business in the long run, and all it seems to be is some kind of trade-off; i.e., the Feds get access to international business logs in exchange for foreign governments to get access to our business logs.

>>888930

what is local storage trends? we can and have already used local storage from the beginning. any "trend" version of this is just going to be some corporate botnet garbage full of security vulns

>>888946

anon probably meant local NAS. I am concerned about Apple and Google having their cloud services storing local pictures and videos that mobile users capture in real-time.

>>888888

damn nigga

>>888937

>While US servers get ragged on because of muh NSA,

Which was always retarded, because there are Constitutional limits on NSA operations in the US. Do they push those limits and sometimes break them? Yeah, the Snowden documents showed that. But the NSA can--and does--operate with impunity abroad. That's their fucking job. The NSA is balls deep in every network in Europe, for example, including in Switzerland. But muh Protonmail. Right.

>>888888

less than the digits you just wasted, you humongous faggot

>>888888

Checked!

>>889877

And how would you have spent them?

>>889977

You got nice digits also anon.

>>890002

>off by two

As per our customs, you must commit ritual suicide by bleach.

>>890005

I'm protected. >>889999

>>887294

>NSA has had hardware backdoors into every computer with an Intel chip or Samsung drive on the planet

Prove it nigger.

>foreign nations that have weaker privacy laws than the United States

Is that even possible?

why are people who don't understand technology and computers making decisions about technology and the internet.