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 No.882687>>882692 >>882760 >>882853 >>883156 >>889538 >>889603 >>891072 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Why are the free as in speech options so dismal?

I needed to get a smartphone for my job and have been doing what little I could to prevent companies from making money by datamining me. But the libre options available in places like F-droid are pathetic. Many can't even open PDF or music files from my SD card while the programs that make money snooping around my phone do.

If people like me who are aware and willing to use free as in speech options and support it wherever possible are having this much trouble, there is no way this movement is going to grow let alone survive.

 No.882692>>882697 >>885082 >>891206

>>882687 (OP)

Here's a thought, maybe peoples incentive to dump thousands of hours of their time into something for free is too low.


 No.882697>>882698

>>882692

Thanks anon, no one thought of that before.


 No.882698

>>882697

You going to dedicate all your time to fixing the problem then? I doubt it.


 No.882702>>882710

>If people like me who are aware and willing to use free as in speech options and support it

>support it

Do you either contribute or donate to a project? This is a genuine, curious question. I'm not trying to be cheeky.


 No.882709

Conversation messaging app is free software, available in Fdroid, but is sold in Play Store for money. Where is your g-d now?


 No.882710

>>882702

Not much but if there's something that I used for a few months/years and they have a donate button I drop a bit of money. Hopefully now I have a stable job I can donate more.


 No.882760>>882790 >>882846

>>882687 (OP)

Android a shit. Dragonbox Pyra ships in 3 months(tm) and runs Debian, just get that.

>muh proprietary baseband

Has no access to memory and can be reliably switched off. Or buy a LimeSDR and nigger-rig your own.

>muh proprietary graphics

code a free one or don’t use it if you care that much. CLI mobile telephony is the new frontier in freetardism.


 No.882790

>>882760

Just in case you were thinking about suggesting something gnome based, I'd like to remind you that shitty free software was exactly what OP didn't want.


 No.882846

>>882760

Better option would be to wait for the EOMA68.


 No.882853>>883054

>>882687 (OP)

>needs smartphone for job

>uses it for not job-related bullshit

That's your own fault. Get the phone, install the "required" apps and only turn it on during work hours, using it only for work. You're now as unspyed-on as possible (for a smartphone user)


 No.882885

Librem will be out next year. I think it will cost $599 when it comes out.


 No.883054

>>882853

Why would work pay for the phone? It’s current_year, everybody has a smartphone.


 No.883078>>883116

while most of the goyim balk at purchasing software that isn't video games on desktops they have zero problem with blowing money in the app store on some shitty worthless app that took 4 days to create, or they just put up with the over the top ads placed in the free apps.

as a result there's no motivation to release open source software when you can instead pollute free versions with ads and sell premium versions.


 No.883116>>883133 >>885273

>>883078

In an app store, and with video games, your payment information is already baked into the system. Google / iOS app stores have your credit card, steam has your credit card. Purchasing something is one click, from one location. Compare this to purchasing normal PC software where you have to go find it on some random site, make an account, add payment info, etc.


 No.883133

>>883116

>Google / iOS app stores have your credit card

speak for yourself


 No.883156>>883157

>>882687 (OP)

It has nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with smartphones being shit.


 No.883157>>883252

>>883156

Yeah fuck the billions of normies with lives


 No.883252

>>883157

Unironically this.


 No.885082>>885099 >>889876 >>891616

>>882692

>>882692

people should be making good products because they enjoy doing it. not because they are getting paid


 No.885099

>>885082

hell yeah dude lets make a bunch of free android software simply because we love to program for the love of programming! i'll start with the logo and CoC *tips fedora*


 No.885264>>885266

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>not just modding dataming apps to make them disconnected from internet

Why does pdf reader app need internet connection and access to my phonebook anyways? But more importantly, how come these "hackers" that I hear about here that are good at making free software are so bad st subverting current software culture.

Modding existing non-free software for purpose of making it free and open should be goal of every "hacker".


 No.885266

>>885264

Addendum

I read a lot about how you guys are just running off to another little "free" island everytime you see someone fuck you over with their non free non open software or tech.

I say, why the fuck are you guys running anymore, don't you get bored? Retake what is yours famalam.


 No.885267>>885272 >>888118

the hidden hand of free market capitalism seems to allow a certain amount of progress towards certain goals

but just when you're almost there there always seems to be a never ending story going on with drivers and software


 No.885272>>885275 >>887788

>>885267

Shut up /leftypol/


 No.885273

>>883116

I've seen some prosumer software being sold through Steam, perhaps that's the solution. It's the closest we have on Windows to an App Store and Package Manager.


 No.885275>>887788

>>885272

am I violating your CoC bro ?


 No.887788

>>885275

>>885272

shut the fuck up both you niggas need to chill


 No.888118>>889541

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>>885267

yes goyim, ayn rand is right, let the market decide everything, I mean its not like the average human being is extremely ignorant on any given topic!


 No.889538>>889539

>>882687 (OP)

>buy proprietary mobile phone

>get one with a removable battery

>take out battery when not in use

Find a flaw.

>inb4 muh sensitive data

Ever heard of hardware and firmware backdoors? Replacing the kernel, userland, and a few drivers and other apps is not enough. Even if you were to get some device with a free and open source bootloader and LineageOS or PostmarketOS pre-loaded, you still have a bunch of closed source radio drivers, shitty Linux kernel support from chinkshit ARM manufacturers, and a totally closed off cellular modem. These modems are mostly made by Qualcomm and Intel, and neither company cares about privacy. These modems are usually poorly isolated from other stuff like system memory and your main CPU cores and the guys over at the Replicant project found some pretty serious security holes in the baseband software on Samsung phones.

So pull your fucking battery, retard. It's the only way.


 No.889539>>889541

>>889538

>Find a flaw.

That almost doubles the volume your pocket has to hold, is annoying to put back in and take out all the time, and you have to wait 10 years for the phone to boot up every time you want to check something.


 No.889541>>889566 >>891580

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>>888118

Democracy is pretty much dead at this point because of how many drugged up faggots and non-whites we live with. Nearly everyone is a single issue voter these days, otherwise they have some sort of extremely watered down view of the political system. They'll literally vote for a politician because they have a vagina, or because they think that building a giant wall on the Southern border is better than lining it with landmines and barbed wire and shooting illegals in the back of the head.

This is the kind of soft, weak, and childlike system we live in. But just remember goy, if you step out of line, we'll take all your precious stuff.

>>889539

>skin tight pants

>too impatient to wait 10 seconds

Numale detected. Opinion disregarded.


 No.889566

>>889541

I wear slacks because my job actually has a fucking dress code. It can fit, but it's obviously not comfortable you turbo autist.

>he thinks phones boot up in 10 seconds

lol


 No.889603

>>882687 (OP)

>Many can't even open PDF or music files from my SD card

I think it has something to do with Google fucking up directory permissions in recent Android versions.

Instead of just opening files form directly via Linux syscalls you need to do it through Android special API. I am not sure on the details, but there're other directory structure-related and general conceptual purpose of sdcard changes too, that make things hard.

Not sure what problem they were solving exactly. Some conspiratards say it's a push to use more Cloud(tm), while Google claims it's for extra security.

In practice, though, as usual, this resulted in bad actors with incentive to jump over all the hoops, while honest actors are struggling to keep up.


 No.889876

>>885082

Federation get out.


 No.891072>>891075

>>882687 (OP)

>I needed to get a smartphone for my job and have been doing what little I could to prevent companies from making money by datamining me. But the libre options available in places like F-droid are pathetic. Many can't even open PDF or music files from my SD card while the programs that make money snooping around my phone do.

What the fuck are you talking about? When was the last time you visited F-Droid? 2015?


 No.891075>>891077

>>891072

Not much has changed


 No.891077>>891093 >>891204

>>891075

It has an entirely new, normalfag-esque user interface now and checks for updates daily.


 No.891093

>>891077

It's disgusting tbh, still using an old version.


 No.891204

>>891077

I like how the one useful function, Search, is a tiny unlabeled icon. At least it's a logical icon.


 No.891206

>>882692

/thread


 No.891532

>job requires smart phone instead of regular phone

quit job


 No.891580

>>889541

democracy by definition is just letting the lowest common denominator choose how things are done. nothing coherent can come out of it. for example your little idea of nationalism can't work in such a system because it erodes over time


 No.891616

>>885082

how naive of a nigger




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