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Anyone on /tech/ ever done research for finding an alternative to Youtube for hosting videos with less or no censorship?
>inb4 use youtube-dl to bypass the botnet
I do, but I'm looking for another platform that doesn't shut you down you for posting shit they don't like to be known by the public or what they deem (((problematic))).
I was about to do the research myself but wondered if anyone did this before me or has some infographs on it.
▶ No.877392>>877393
We literally have two threads about this, you retard.
▶ No.877393
>>877388
Checked and Heil'd
>>877392
I checked the catalog, which ones are you talking about?
▶ No.877395>>877412
>>877388
what is that little girl doing there?
Also I remember that guy, he preached about adult men into anime or something lel
▶ No.877401>>877404 >>877405
mate,
youtube alternatives don't matter
creators need to move first
▶ No.877403>>877405 >>877649 >>877662 >>878647 >>878904
Bitchute
>already serves videos via webtorrent
>growing rapidly
D.Tube
>Already has monetization via steem
>Some big youtube names
>plans to decentralize
▶ No.877404>>877406 >>877525
>>877401
Where the fuck are they going to move to, if no alternatives exist?
▶ No.877405
>>877401
Yeah, but where to?
That's what I am curious about, what the possibilities are.
>>877403
Thx, Anon this is useful.
Now I have a starting point
▶ No.877406
>>877404
Most of them move to Vimeo when they get b&.
▶ No.877414
>>877388
Yes. My favorite pastor.
▶ No.877416
>>877388
>Jewtube
He is redpilled.
▶ No.877525
>>877404
I'm not a creator. I believe a lot of them are switching to something called bitchute, but I've never been there and don't need it.
As a consumer just use hooktube.
▶ No.877537>>877608 >>877673
>>877383 (OP)
Download with youtube-dl and push onto a torrent network. All the tools needed exist. Just need a system to index the DHT for youtube style content.
▶ No.877608>>877659
>>877537
Can you list the tools that will make this happen.
▶ No.877641>>877650
bitchute, hooktube, I think gab.ai might have some hosting ability, also minds, I believe
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▶ No.877650>>877712 >>883938
>>877641
HT is only a proxy
▶ No.877652>>877673
>>877383 (OP)
You buy or rent your own server and host videos on it.
There's nothing hard about it, nogger. Fucking duckduckgoy it.
Oh, you want to post your nazi child porn without being drezzled from servers by evil (((FBI))) ad (((Copyright holders))), right? Well, host a Tor hidden service then.
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▶ No.877659>>877673
>>877608
I just did? youtube-dl + literally any torrent client. The index is the important part. That could just be a website.
▶ No.877661
>>877654
Wow, thanks for that. I can't say this is surprising but it's still sad to see YT act like this.
▶ No.877662>>877663 >>877673 >>877938
>>877403
>bitchute
To create a channel you must first verify your email address.
▶ No.877663>>877664
>>877662
Emails are literally free from thousands of places, what is the problem.
▶ No.877664>>883797
>>877663
>what is the problem.
WebRTC
▶ No.877673
>>877659
>>877537
That's a great idea!
It just needs a good/simple platform for lookup for normies.
The more people do this the more speed the streaming will have.
It's like jewing jewtube, I love it!
>>877652
That's what some alternative media-groups do, but a single website to list all such websites would be awesome.
>>877662
Make one on a public WiFi with a non-persistent live-usb and a VPN/tor?
Pay a homeless guy to do it if you don't think this is enough.
▶ No.877712
>>877650
Not even a proxy, since the video is still streamed from Google's servers.
▶ No.877714>>877716
>>877383 (OP)
d-tube
>monetized
>no censorship
Basically a better YouTube. The only flaw is it's updater isn't as fast or convenient as YouTube's.
▶ No.877716>>877769
>>877714
Still centralized while pretending not to be.
▶ No.877769>>877775
>>877716
How is it centralised? It's just a frontend (http gateway) for the files in the ipfs network.
▶ No.877775>>877853
>>877769
Its a central front end that manages everything, can be censored, can go down, etc, while the users are stuck with the internet bill.
▶ No.877789>>877794
>>877412
Anyone know where i can find the entire talk?
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▶ No.877853>>877961
>>877775
Do you understand what is an interface frontend? It is not necessary to have a pretty frontend like this. If the frontend goes away, the backend ipfs network doesn't go away, all you need is to find another frontend to point to the same backend.
▶ No.877938
>>877662
Bitchute censors content.
▶ No.877961>>877965
>>877853
>another frontend to point to the same backend.
No you don't understand. Torrents and shit have existed for years. What this is doing is adding a centralized frontend with all these extra features that they control while you pay for the bandwidth instead of them. There is no "pointing it at the same backend". When they go down they take the entire youtube style parts with them. The ranking, indexing, commenting, etc. They can censor as they wish until then. Without the frontend its just a torrent network.
▶ No.877965>>877986
>>877961
If the Bitchute front end with all their comments and rankings go away, nothing of value was lost! The front end is a trivial addition to the real star which is the video stored on the network. The network is the important bit, not the additions of user accounts for commenting and tracking.
▶ No.877986>>877992 >>878438
>>877965
>nothing of value was lost!
If this was true then torrents would have replaced youtube long ago.
>The front end is a trivial addition to the real star which is the video stored on the network.
The meta system is literally the problem holding all this shit back. The tech for file distribution has been around for 25 years.
>not the additions of user accounts for commenting and tracking.
Except that is the important part for a youtube replacement
▶ No.877992>>877994 >>878460 >>878624
>>877986
People originally used Youtube because they were incapable of hosting videos with their own resources. IPFS is the technology that allows people to upload their videos to the Internet. People are free to start their own websites and communities as a front end to the videos they send to the network. Bitchute is one of these front ends and nobody is centralized to stay there. If they want to start their own commenting and rating system, they are very welcome to build another Bitchute for their own purposes.
▶ No.877994>>878015
>>877992
>they were incapable of hosting videos with their own resources
This is just not true at all. You know what existed before youtube? Torrents. Just check wikipedia. Before youtube 1/3rd of the internet was people p2p pirating videos. People had the means, before, and as sites like youtube came along they stopped.
▶ No.878015>>878023 >>878024
>>877994
You still need to host the videos even with plain bittorrent technology. If you're going to seed your highly obscure video, then in practise you will need to personally seed it into perpetuity because the number of people who would seed it after downloading is so small they might as well not exist. Youtube was designed for normal people who don't care about hosting videos out of their own resources.
▶ No.878023>>878028
>>878015
IPFS operates exactly the same way.
▶ No.878024>>878028
>>878015
When you share something on IPFS you have to stay up for people to download it all the same. Its exactly the same issue as torrents. They don't automatically download something just because it was shared.
▶ No.878028>>878030
>>878023
>>878024
The difference with IPFS is that IPFS is supposed to work as a kind of "permanent seeding system" so people who download through IPFS are supposed to be simultaneously seeding it without the active interaction of the downloader i.e. if there is one person online hosting the file, then it will just continue along the network. In a normal bittorrent file, the user has to actively and intentionally seed the specific file(s).
▶ No.878030
>>878028
>IPFS are supposed to be simultaneously seeding it without the active interaction of the downloader
Which is what every torrent client does by default. Have you literally never used a torrent client before? The change with IPFS is the file system part.
> if there is one person online hosting the file, then it will just continue along the network.
Which is what torrents do
>the user has to actively and intentionally seed the specific file(s).
Torrent clients always seed by default, most don't even have a way to disable it. Having a torrent program in the background is the same as having IPFS in the background. Users can also get IPFS to stop sharing files all the same.
▶ No.878062>>878904 >>878917
Yes I did last year. Out of a lot of different options I found that Vimeo generally transcodes to better quality than Youtube and doesn't have as many asinine restrictions on resolution. I would sure like to test out Bitchute more, but I can't figure out how download my own videos because this webtorrent shit is such a pain in the ass to setup an out of browser downloader.
▶ No.878232>>878236 >>878241 >>879063
Can someone PLEASE make a userscript that automatically converts YouTube embeds to hooktube ones?
▶ No.878236
>>878232
Hooktube has some links to userscripts on the bottom of their homepage.
▶ No.878241
>>878232
For what purpose? It points to exactly the same stream on googlevideo
▶ No.878289
>>877383 (OP)
>looking for an alternative to youtube
i have one, it's called coding
▶ No.878309>>879063
youtube-dl users are retards who don't know how to use their shell and paste random shit from the internet into it without understanding what they're doing:
> Video URL contains an ampersand and I'm getting some strange
> output [1] 2839 or 'v' is not recognized as an internal or external command
>
> That's actually the output from your shell. Since ampersand is one of the special shell characters it's interpreted by the shell preventing you from passing the whole
> URL to youtube-dl. To disable your shell from interpreting the ampersands (or any other special characters) you have to either put the whole URL in quotes or escape
> them with a backslash (which approach will work depends on your shell).
>
> For example if your URL is https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=BaW_jenozKc you should end up with following command:
>
> youtube-dl 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=BaW_jenozKc'
>
> or
>
> youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4\&v=BaW_jenozKc
>
> For Windows you have to use the double quotes:
>
> youtube-dl "https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=BaW_jenozKc"
▶ No.878346>>878349
All youtube-dl needs for argument is the video ID (the part towards the end, after the - and before the .), and it'll figure out the URL itself.
▶ No.878349
>>878346
By - and . I mean the ones that show up in downloaded file, like here:
Diving Into TempleOS-bfGMBG085Ms.mp4
Just watch out because sometimes a - is used in the ID itself, but it's pretty easy to just copy/paste that part into your shell once you know what to look for.
▶ No.878438>>878454
>>877986
This. We need a central decentralized easily accessible chat for something like video hashes.
This sounds complicated but doable.
Some form of streamtorrenting with VLC also help since permasaving of videos on first view is neither popular nor efficient (for the viewers)
▶ No.878451
Google needs to stop working with the glow-in-the-dark CIA niggers
▶ No.878454
>>878438
Should just have each content creator make a "channel" where they manage it. Anything else would lead to sybil attacks and spam.
▶ No.878460>>878491
>>877992
oh yeah there aren't 5000 other networks like IPFS that have existed for 30 years
▶ No.878491>>878518 >>878524 >>878528
>>878460
How many of those networks have a HTTP interface allowing the user to see videos directly within a web page?
▶ No.878518>>878561 >>878904
>>878491
You can torrent in your browser even without a daemon and watch the video in it too https://webtorrent.io/
▶ No.878524>>878559
>>878491
Not participating in your arguing over which P2P network is the best, but..
Why would you want to start up your browser to watch a video? That's insane.
▶ No.878528
>>878491
0, and neither does IPFS. HTTP is cancer anyway
▶ No.878559>>878572 >>879063
>>878524
Youtube has a multi billion dollar business around doing this exact thing! I wonder what it is about Youtube that people like about it. 🤔🤔🤔
▶ No.878561>>878655 >>878658
>>878518
Certainly, this technology exists today. It didn't exist in 2005 when Youtube was born.
▶ No.878572>>879063 >>879111
>>878559
>Youtube has a multi billion dollar business
Yes, in the red.
▶ No.878624>>878916
>>877992
Youtube's original purpose was "hey free hosting" these days free hosting is easy to find any where you want. The issue is finding people to watch your shit.
No point making videos on a website no one knows exists is there?
▶ No.878647
>>877383 (OP)
>>877403
Neither of these are real alternatives. If you want to just a place to upload videos to then use fucking Internet Archive or something. Normalfags don't want to just host videos. They want a system that will automatically convert their 4K video to 1440p, 1080p, 720p, 480p, 360p, 240p, and 144p in a matter of hours, while paying them money for producing whatever they produce.
▶ No.878655
>>878561
No but it existed outside of the browser just fine
▶ No.878658
>>878561
HTTP interfaces existed for torrents in 2005, just not full browser only implementations.
▶ No.878904
>>877403
>>878062
>>878518
Webtorrent is only a leaching technology.
Webtorrent client(browsers) just circlejerk instead of strengthening the bittorrent seeding pool. Browsers have to die anyways.
▶ No.878916
>>878624
People find obscure websites all the time. Especially with the Google botnet running around, there is very little that they won't find. Even assuming that Google is blind to your specific obscure website, there's always the option of forming web rings with similarly themed websites.
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▶ No.878920>>879303
>>878917
Can I get a description of this link? Does youtube-dl suddenly support webtorrent now?
▶ No.879015>>879144
Bitchute and uploadstars are the best alternatives.
▶ No.879063>>885409
>>878232
I just use Open With on Firefox-based browsers Pale Moon so I can stream video links with mpv. It's the same as hooktube, except I can still see a thumbnail or video title before clicking on a video when it's a plain youtube embed.
>>878309
I usually use 'url' for youtube-dl because I know the url doesn't need to be interpreted by bash. Same with megadl because of '#'. Do people really not know how to use "" or '' for bash arguments?
>>878559
>>878572
Speaking of, has Youtube ever turned a profit?
▶ No.879111
>>878572
YouTube (In the) Red
▶ No.879144
>>879015
I think the latter is best for backup purposes. Watch the existing community there potentially go down in flames as politically sensitive content will appear en masse there.
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▶ No.879303
>>878920
no, but bitchute hosts an mp4 file as well
▶ No.883797>>883935 >>883945
Hooktube.
Cyrillic request.
> 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
> This page is temporarily unavailable for an unknown reason.
> If the problem persists, please get in touch (swack@protonmail.com) with any details you think might help.
>>877664
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Prevent-WebRTC-from-leaking-local-IP-address
Noscript, uMatrix etc.
▶ No.883935
>>883797
Hooktube is just a hook to Youtube without its jewiness and tracking. It's not a real replacement.
▶ No.883938
>>877650
It's a frontend for googlevideo
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▶ No.884036>>884042
>>883945
Speak English or die.
▶ No.884042
>>884036
You know pinko was coined in the united states right?
▶ No.885409>>885604
>>879063
>has Youtube ever turned a profit?
I doubt it. It's mainly kept alive because Jewgle keeps feeding it money.
▶ No.885601
>>877412
LMAOOOO
I haven't laughed this hard in ages!! Thank you, anon
▶ No.885604
>>885409
>Ads and views are what powers the infernal machine m8.