/tech/ - Technology★

Seriously, who's idea was this?

Installed, or integrated?

Integrated might just mean there's a .desktop file that launches it in GNOME Web. That's bad, but nothing more than a glorified shortcut. It's not actually installed.

Mangina is non-arguably the most cucked distribution of modern times.

I can't be the only one to remember the total fiasco that was their SSL certificate mishap.

Manjaro is the distribution that 14 to 15 year old haxxors install because that's the only way they can say they use Arch.

There's lots of othjer things.

>>864412

> ever leaving an actual distribution maintained by professionals for a meme

Don't ever to this again.

>>864412

That looks identical to the glorified shortcut setup I described.

I'd switch regardless.

>year of the linu-

We have a free software os now but it makes little difference, the ms windows application platform has been replaced by the google chrome platform and once again the platform and virtually all of its apps are proprietary.

>>864421

>Manjaro

>major distro

snickering intensifies

>>864444

Checked, but Manjaro has climbed up the ladder over the past two years. It probably is in the top five.

>>864420

RMS is indifferent to systemd.

>>864400 (OP)

Sounds like someone got a bag of shekels shoved up their ass.

>>864466

Software Freedom and quality are two different issues. You can have the best software in the world, 100% bug-free, but if you forgot to add a Free license RMS would not use it.

>>864478

> golden cage software

>>864478

This.

>>864478

>implying the shit systemdicks is replacing wasn't also trash.

>>864482

Also this.

OpenRC is where it's at!

I love my comfy runit too.

>>864414

When I switched back to Fedora because I needed a quick Linux environment with GUI, I almost had an aneurysm at how fucking unproductive Gnome is and how useless dnf is. Fuckhuge text, titlebars, >programs in a grid

>terminal not automatically on sidebar or top-level grid

>14 pt text

>1cm titlebar for every window

>dnf search is about as useful as Google

>package names deviate from Debian/Arch/Ports standard

>so it takes time searching for every dependency when installing from source

>deciphering descriptions

Kill me, how is this a "developer's" OS? I can get better fucking workflow on plan9.

>>864501

>s.jpg

>>>/g/

>>864503

> implying this is not /g/

>itt people sperg out at the noob install having a fuckload of bloat

Does having to type sudo pacman -Rnsc ms-office-online hurt your chubby arthritic fingers? Are you too fucking stupid to do a custom install? Bunch of virtue signalling larpers, hang yourselves.

>distro who can't into SSL certs install MS bullshit

LOL

>>864400 (OP)

Linux commies admitting defeat.

Open source shitware fails again.

>>864493

At what cost? I don't even see the point, to be quite honest.

It's useful only to the goyim.

>>864501

Mate, I'm not bitching because I have a serious problem on my hands, and not enough IQ points to fix it. I'm bitching because what was labeled on the tin is not what's actually in the tin. I'm running Arch with 9wm. Arch gets labeled as a hobbyists' and ricer distro, yet my experience has proven to be to the contrary. That's all. Please get checked for autism, if you haven't already, not being sarcastic.

>>864543

> running Arch with 9wm

> get checked for autism

> not sarcastic

>>864546

>implying autists will go near floating windows

>implying autists don't use Gentoo

>implying I don't care about the well-being of my fellow man

>implying this doesn't also include assisting them in their journey through life by helping them figure out what's wrong with them so they can develop the proper coping skills to live a better life

>putting a space after the uzbekistani cuneiform character for the singular concrete noun form of "a person following the sacred tradition passed down from the Tribe of Yehudah"

>>864448

this is quite sad imo. because manjaro is insecure by design. they (at least used to) get their packages from arch linux's repos but they waited x amount of time after they deemed them """Stable""" and then they pushed the packages to their repos. this could mean that a security bug doesn't get patched! Also, one of t he major selling points of Manjaro is the access to AUR, which is dumb. AUR isn't meant for people who are new to linux or those who don't/can't read PKGBUILD scripts. Maintainers of manjaro seem to be very unprofessional and lazy. For example, their website's SSL cert expired at least twice! And now manjaro is even cuck'd by microsoft.

>>864498

>Not using the XFCE Spin

>>864516

That command line is considered harmful. are you sure you aren't the one who is LARPing??

>>864559

<putting a space after the uzbekistani cuneiform character for the singular concrete noun form of "a person following the sacred tradition passed down from the Tribe of Yehudah"

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed that. It's basically namefagging at this point.

>>864400 (OP)

MANJARO CUCKS BTFO

HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER??

>>864493

>ending

I wish that was me

>>864409

fuck off no one wants to use a shitty meme distro for actual productivity

>>864421

>This is about a major distro cucking itself for Microsoft.

>Manjaro

>a major distro

kek, my fellow kekistani

>>864595

Manjaro is the most used Arch-based disto, so it's not entirely wrong to call it that.

>>864498

>terminal not automatically on sidebar or top-level grid

<ctrl-alt-t launch terminal boom done dude

>14 pt text

<change font or scaling faggot

>1cm titlebar for every window

<your choice of aesthetics dude

>dnf search is about as useful as Google

<pleb faggot learn to into terminal, find, locate, grep

>package names deviate from Debian/Arch/Ports standard

>deciphering descriptions

<use a different distro or learn the naming conventions faggot

>>864605

The fact that the major distros name the same packages differently IS a needless pain in the ass.

>>864612

>The fact that the major programming languages name the same constructs differently IS a needless pain in the ass.

That's you. That's what you sound like.

>>864618

No. Package names are data, not syntax.

It would be nice if a list of dependencies just werked by copy/pasting whatever your distro is. I can't think of an equivalent of that for programming language syntax.

>>864621

I'm saying that everyone learns the differences in syntax and it's natural. Yet you complain about differences in package naming conventions - literally lurk moar and learn the naming conventions.

>>864621

Also stop distro hopping. Find a distro you like and stick with it as your daily driver. God forbid people would actually stick with a distro and contribute back to development.

>>864622

It wasn't my complaint, I just thought it was sensible. Differences between naming conventions make sense, but it doesn't always stop there. I heard Mint does some atrocious things to package names.

>>864626

I've been continuously using Debian for about four years.

>>864570

>KFC spin

If I wanted to drown in a sea of dropdowns, I would be using OpenBox.

>>864605

>ctrl-alt-t launch terminal boom done dude

It doesn't work on my machine. Fedora 27. A similar command sequence is win-t-enter, but it' still not clean and you can't open more than one term using that shortcut.

>change font or scaling

Nigger, what? I can force small fonts in xresources, but they don't work for anything besides cli term text.

>your choice of aesthetics dude

I'm not a faggot ricer, my man. I try to cram as much text and into the smallest surface area possible so I don't have to scroll. Having xboxyourmomhuge titlebars is absolutely awful for this. The status bar already takes up a 1/50th of the desktop space, now there's a bunch of needless bloat taking up 1/30 (roughly, each app has different sized titlebars, but all of them are awful, especially terminal and fucking NAUTILUS).

>pleb faggot learn to into terminal, find, locate, grep

You goddamn faggot. Search is awful not because I get a huge list of things I have to sort through and pick out the right one (which is already a problem, search optimization should be already built-in, and users (me) shouldn't have to use outside utils. You're also a faggot because none of those utils will be of any use considering the following:), it's awful because that plus inspecific descriptions and obtuse naming conventions make it a chore to hunt down a package.

>use a different distro or learn the naming conventions faggot

Fuck you, faggot. This is about how Fedora's a shit dev distro. I already switched. (>>864629)

And su is authed by the calling user's password, what the fuck my dude? Why even have sudo? Why even have any permissions at all? I didn't know I was running kali.

>>864631

su is authed by the password of the user you're switching to. You're using the same password for your regular user account and for root.

>>864400 (OP)

hah! cucks alls of them

>>864412

>Fedora or Debian

why not be a normal person and install Opensuse?

>>864627

debian is a good choice. mint i wouldn't touch they seem not professionally run.

>>864633

I'm retarded, this is the case. With all of the dumb design decisions, I thought they had a home-rolled su.

>>864598

>Arch-based disto,

lol so it is 1% of 1%

>>864644

X11 is harmful.

>>864644

How old is that graph? Ratpoison isn't around anymore. They've jumped ship to stumpwm.

>>864400 (OP)

I just installed a better distro over my previous Manjaro partition.

>>864648

Also, from I read openbox is not being developed anymore, maybe you know more about this (or someone else).

Awesome, not pictured, seems still to be in active development ?

>>864644

>Window Maker is 7 megs

>full fledged DE is 7 megs

what the fuck are people doing these days?

>>864659

>openbox

The prevailing notion is that openbox has been optimized and patched to the fullest extent a 1MB codebase can be.

>awesome still in active dev

Yes.

>>864631

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Harvard, and I’ve been involved in numerous FOSS projects, and I have over 15 honorary doctorates. I am trained in physics and I’m the top developer in the entire GNU Project. You are nothing to me but just another streetshitter. I will wipe your cuck license the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, cia nigger. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of crackers across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, pajeet. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your commit history. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can hack you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with chopsticks in my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in doing your mother, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Free Software Foundation and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable proprietary software off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>864665

Are there any DE/WM's you feel strongly about (both in good and bad).

What would you recommend and suggest to avoid?

>Microsoft Office Online

I haven't heard about this MMO sounds pretty unique.

>>864667

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little Stallman? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at the University of Calgary, and I’ve been involved in numerous *BSD projects, and I have 1 award that means anything. I am trained in guerrilla shitposting and I’m the top developer in the entire security hemisphere. You are nothing to me but just another linux loser. I will wipe your shitty glued together kernel the fuck out with code correctnes the likes of which has never been seen in any Linux mailing list, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with sending me those bits over the world wide wed? Think again, FOSS faggot. As we speak I am contacting my public network of security engineers across the NSA, CIA, and EPA combined, and your compilers are being compromised with self-replicating opcodes right now so you better prepare for the zeor day, GNobody. The zero day that wipes out the unaesthetic little thing you call your gapless i3 rice. You’re fucking pwned, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can code review you in over nine thousand ways, and that’s just with a toaster running DragonflyBSD in my lightweight printf command-based terminal editor. Not only am I extensively trained in fucking your mother, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Free Software Foundation's too and I will fuck them to their breaking points to wipe your miserable bloat of a kernel off the face of the entire xkeyscore database, you little GNU. If only you could have known what code-secure retribution your little vulnerable commit was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking git push. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn Torvalds. I will shit security all over your codebase and you will become unemployed because of it. You’re fucking UNIX philosophy, Lincuck.

>>864400 (OP)

Time you Majaro homos learn how to install Arch!

LOL

>>864679

Unity is the worst DE in existance. Gnome is a bloated fucking shitstain. Xfce or whatever it's called, is decent. RatPoison/Stumpwm is decent. OpenBox is good. Bspwm is really good. And 9wm/rio/8 1/2wm is amazing for me. Would be perfect is you could config it just a little bit more.

Personally, I'd recommend trying Openbox and Bswpm to get a feel for both types of managers to see what fits your workflow. They're both insanely easy to config too. And, small binaries.

>>864741

>unity

>worst

Somebody has never used Enlightenment.

>>864739

Arch is tedious to install even when you know how. And it's not like it hasn't been reduced to a glorified checklist these days anyway.

>>864741

What about awesome, it's often touted as "the easiest tiling windows manager for beginners"?

>>864742

I think this is a debate we really not need have : even Canonical agreed it was shit and went back to Gnome.

>>864743

>Arch is tedious to install even when you know how.

Literally the comfiest and easiest Linux install by far. I can install it in actually 3 minutes.

>you know how.

Clearly you have never done it. The command line to hard for you? Good luck installing Gnetoo, it's 10x harder than BSD and about 100x harder than Arch.

The nigger has to click everything, the White Man can use the command line.

>>864748

Nigger, I say this because I've done it so many times after shit breaks that I never want to do it again. Thank fucking goodness DAD packages are going to make the AUR obsolete, and I'll never have to deal with Arch again.

>>864743

>Arch is tedious to install even when you know how.

It's not. The base install is super easy.

I am being welcome of it.

>>864754

>Nigger, I say this because I've done it so many times

You probably tried it once, not knowing how to use parted of fdisk or grub and having to fumble your way through learning it.

>shit breaks that I never want to do it again.

The install breaks? How?

Unless you mean the installation breaks, which it won't un;ess you're a complete retard and set it up wrong because you can't read simple instructions (like a nigger).

>DAD packages are going to make the AUR obsolete

What the fuck are you on about? Arch isn't the only system with source packages.

BSD has AUR by the name of ports.

Gentoo is obviously all like AUR.

>>864758

Tedious /= Difficult

>>864762

Arch breaks. Arch beaks shit all the time. It is a fundamental part of Arch to break shit sooner or later.

>>864763

It's not tedious though. You format the disk, make a fs, install the base system, chroot, and install a bootloader.

Done

It's like 5 commands and it's done in an instant.

>>864762

DADs will render the AUR obsolete because you could, in theory, make a distro agnostic AUR with them.

>>864764

>It is a fundamental part of Arch to break shit sooner or later.

Arch doesn't break if you used it you'd know.

>>864767

>make a distro agnostic AUR with them.

Uhh, source-code is distro agnostic retard.

>>864745

Never tried it.

>>864742

Looks like a chink KDE ripoff.

>>864748

>BSD

Which one? OpenBSD was easier to get running than arch, only because the man pages were actually good.

>>864762

>tfw you make your first helloworld.py script and feel like you're a real programmer

>so you decide to get a programmer's OS

>try to install arch

>oh god what the fuck is this

>oh god I only have on computer and have to read the wiki on my tiny ass phone

>oh god even after writing down the entire installation steps it still doesn't make sense

>oh god what the fuck how do I partition a disk

>oh my fucking god the installation process isn't a standalone list, but requires you follow all the links

>installed it eight times

>never got it to work

>want to end it all by violent murder suicide

>relegated to installing Fedora

>Anaconda installer dies midway through

>Have to install again

>Rest of the time is spent figuring out yum

>What the fuck is this and why is it so hard?

>A week later get sick of Fedora

>Try again to install Arch

>Follow an image from Google Images

>It werks

>Figure out I was using UEFI on a MBR board

>Wiki doesn't say anything about this

Fucking hell. The arch wiki is bloated. You don't need to do even a quarter of the shit they list. Partition, pacstrap, and wpa_supplicant and you're good to go.

>>864764

I've never had Arch break on me. Besides that, I don't think anyone has had their Arch break nowadays. It's stable as hell.

>>864767

I remember the time before I knew what compiling was.

>>864775

>>so you decide to get a programmer's OS

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

Nothing about Arch suggests it's a programmer's OS.

>>oh god I only have on computer and have to read the wiki on my tiny ass phone

Buy a tablet, do you only own one computer? What a retarded little indian nigger you are.

The rest of that is you admitting you don't know anything, too lazy to learn, and you use Fedroa, the most Pajeet Linux ever made.

>>>/4chan/

>>864775

>only because the man pages were actually good.

OpenBSD has an installer which is the only reason it is easier.

>>864779

The most pajeet linux is Ubuntu because pajeets are normies.

>>864781

???

>>864780

That too, but having that eyehemorrhoid of a wm be the first thing you see on startx can be worse than no docs and a single term.

>>864779

>Nothing about Arch suggests it's a programmer's OS.

At the time, that's what the reddit posts told me.

>Buy a tablet, do you only own one computer? What a retarded little indian nigger you are.

At the time.

>The rest of that is you admitting you don't know anything, too lazy to learn, and you use Fedroa, the most Pajeet Linux ever made.

I was disheartened and needed time recuperate from the mental rape I had experienced. This was a long time ago.

Fedora is for faggots, but Ubuntu is for women.

>>864782

Ubuntu == Normie Distro

Streetshitter == Normie

>>864784

>Fedora is for faggots, but Ubuntu is for women.

Better a woman than a faggot. Especially a retarded nigger faggot indian like you.

You were the IP spoofing, "Tox is bad because it exposes my IP" nigger weren't you?

>>864748

>Literally the comfiest and easiest Linux install by far. I can install it in actually 3 minutes.

>try to install Arch

>boot up to command line

>pick DM and DE next

>reboot

>fails to boot

>try to install Antergos

>pick graphical installer

>fails to start right away

So the difference was whether or not I immediately get the feedback my video card was not supported.

>>864791

>Enable a window manager

>before making sure X11 works

Arch isn't even hard and you brainlets can't handle it and blame your own faults onto Arch.

You people could never install FreeBSD or Gentoo.

>>864748

>The command line to hard for you? Good luck installing Gnetoo, it's 10x harder than BSD and about 100x harder than Arch.

Get out of here. Head on over to /g/ if you want to LARP about "muh hard gentoo install" with other the retards that share your chromosome count. Anyone with two braincells to rub together can follow the Gentoo Handbook and have the distro running in a matter of minutes, same as any other distro.

>>864788

>Tox

I was lurking that thread and my opinion is that there are better tools for the job than Tox. Snowden *(the organized opposition)* leaked a pretty GOAT tool for completely anonymous and encrypted communication.

>>864797

>It should stay FAR FAR away from any development platform, let alone production one and has nothing to do in a company.

Listen here, you scandinavian nigger, I don't know what you're trying to say with your poor English, here.

>>864809

I'm saying that you should stop using a distribution associated with hypebeasts as a means to counterbalance your insecurities relating to your small size.

>>864811

As much as I would like to get away from Arch and it's tumblr-tier community, I can't. I have tried, but I can't forsake my time and workflow for ideals. In no other distro am I able to get up and running whatever I need in a matter of minutes. The package system is world class, the OS relatively minimal (BSDs and other research OSes are better in this regard), and I can pretty much have it any way I want (besides for systemdownie). If you know a ditro that can augment my workflow, please enlighten me.

>>864411

>I can't be the only one to remember the total fiasco that was their SSL certificate mishap.

Twice in a row

>>864768

Not everything is open source, as much as I'd like for it to be. And even when it is, my grandmother isn't going to know how to compile anything, but downloading an AppImage is something she could do.

>>864629

xfce is a broken piece of shit. It randomly (literally randomly, independent of all inputs or events) break into a state where components like the panel enter a crash-restart loop. Once that happens xfce can never be started ever again. The components are always buggy and it has fuckall useful programs by default. Moreover it eats almost as much resources as gnome or kde despite having so few features.

Mate on the other hand is very stable, has all the high-quality software you need, can be compiled with gtk2 to avoid about 5 billion ancient and well-known gtk3 bugs, uses fuckall resources, and just werks.

>>865021

w-what?

I admit I havent used it much, maybe a year, but the only problem I had with xfce was dropbox tray icon fucking itself up

>>865021

Xfce has been behaving itself for me in Xubuntu 17.10. Hell, with amdgpu, the default compositor even does vsync properly now. Smoother than Compton too.

>>864412

unless your distro had ikey doherty as part of the dev team

>>864804

b-but muh freedunbs!!!! gentoo r superior cause it's the biggest pain in the ass to use!!! n00buntu user!!!

It's just a folder w/ some images, links and python that allows a browser window to run the office online sites only.

Good thing this is linux and we can just look at it and tell what's goin on and remove if wanted.

fuckin tittybabies outchea

>>865142

Fuck off Redditfag. Just five years ago we'd be getting torches and pitchforks ready. How cucked has the Linux community become?

>>864411

>not setting back your date back in a year

>20XX + (- 1)

>>864409

yet another meme distro

>Return of the Jedi

<seriously?

>>864411

>distribution that 14 to 15 year old haxxors install because that's the only way they can say they use Arch

not true, artix/archbang/parabola/antergos come with gui installer too

>>864412

>being systemd cuck

>>864421

ubuntu, anything from redhat, they are too cucking themselves for microsoft

>>864498

>linux gui

>plan9

>linux

>work enironment

>work distro

fuck off to /g/

>>864516

>doesn't know what principles are

>doesn't realize the precedence it sets

quit primary

>>864629

>cuck who uses telegram gives advice

<gno.png

>>864797

>Ubuntu is the most widely used OS period. When you work in a professional environment that's key. It's got support from a company also.

Your point is that company you are wagecucking for pushes MS/Amazon backed distro on you? What's good about it and how does it make Ubuntu "professional" distro?

>>864804

This.

>>865175

precedent*

forgot that it's same as in my language

>>864640

It's the no. 2 distro on distrowatch

>>864498

You can netinstall with any DE you want, same as Debian.

>>864448

Nope. The top five best/most popular desktop distros are:

Ubuntu (and official derivatives)

Debian

Fedora

OpenSUSE

Arch

Honorable mention goes to RHEL and its derivatives, SUSE Linux, Slackware, and Gentoo.

These are the distributions which have a critical mass of users and developers necessary for properly maintaining a modern Linux system. It's a waste of time to use anything else.

>>865175

>fuck off to /g/

For the most part, my work can be done on just about any machine (except for one tool that only works on windows). But, unlike Windows, I have greater control over my workflow and removing things that get in my way. Plan9 is perfect for this, because it's absolutely barebones and synergies well with my primarily mouse-based developing. The only reason I use Linux nowadays, is because of the bulk of tools that I don't feel like spending extra time to get running in plan 9 LINUXEMU. This is the same reason I chose Fedora. The installer can be configured in a minute, you can work on something else instead of babysitting it, and then come back and have everything running already. The GUI/DE, however you want to spin it, is also inline with my workflow.

>>865210

I wasn't aware of this. Last time I took a good look at the Fedora pages, it seemed like you had no choices for Workstation images. Going back now, I see it's an option and will be sure to make use of it next time.

>>864629

Debian is great. I netinstalled a minimal system with only "standard system utilities" checked at tasksel, installed my non-free wifi firmware, network-manager, xorg, xfce4 and xfce4-goodies and everything else I needed. The release version of Firefox isn't in testing, so I just added the unstable repo to /etc/apt/sources.list and changed the priority so that unstable packages are only installed if I do 'apt install -t unstable foo'. Now I have a stable but rolling Linux distro that mostly just werks.

Breddy comfy

>>865221

forgot to mention that I dist-upgraded to testing before installing anything

>>865212

YES!

Although I would not include Ubuntu derivatives and Arch I'm not familiar exactly with how it's run, but it's definitely not on the level of others.

My list :

1) Ubuntu (ideally LTS)

Most widely used distribution.

This is the best general purpose distribution. If gaming is important to you, pretty much all the video game developers test on Ubuntu when developing for or porting to Linux afaik.

This also the distribution that most big companies use or require of their employees (Google, although they have now switched to their own Debian fork).

2) Debian

Gaming in less practical here, because proprietary stuff is seen by Debian much more stringently as Canonical, but in all other cases it's to be preferred. This is the true benchmark and the "most free" distribution of its kind.

3) Fedora

Maintained by Red Hat.

3) CentOS

Heard its unpractical for desktop use. CERN uses it so... I don't know.

5) OpenSUSE

Also has company backing.

Then in more amateurish territory :

Arch, Slackware, Gentoo ; not for actual professional work, but can learn a lot from using them (at least Arch and Gentoo, don't know Slackware).

>>864412

Aaaand fuck. Now I have to redo my whole desktop setup.

>>865146

You right Linux has come out of the dark ages in the last five years, fuck off back to your cave dork

>>864493

Supposedly they're dropping win32 support in all new OEM machines by 2019/2020. Goodbye Steam. Goodbye anything not from the Windows store. UWP only. Remember that "free" upgrade to windows 10 home? Unless you pay for Windows Pro all your programs will stop working soon. And even then, win32 support in pro is going to be slowly phased out. There will be literally no reason to stay on windows after that. None. Small indie devs? FOSS software? Screw you, pay us money to put it on the Microsoft Store or people can't install. Even MacOS isn't that bad.

> This change was introduced four months ago. All it does it make it easier for people to access and use the on-line Office version.

> "Personally, I'm moving back to Fedora." Over link in toolbar?

> A simple link to SAAS office~

(mod)

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/7vxcda/manjaro_is_shipping_microsoft_office_online_by/

>>864743

Antergos

>>865648

Yeesh.When did r/linux become full of MS shills?

>>864659

>from I read openbox is not being developed anymore

The devs are still around and occasionally update things, the problem is the faggots maintaining v3.0 at the moment have no interest in bringing back the window edge snapping option that used to be a feature in previous versions.

>>865021

Used Xfce for practically a decade and never encountered what you're talking about.

>has fuckall useful programs by default

It's a desktop environment, what exactly are you asking for? The appfinder is pretty handy tbh fam, I like to use it on whatever DE/WM I'm using at the moment.

>>864412

How the fuck do you even "install" a webapp?

>>865809

It's a package that advertises the web app. Just as bad, from a Stallmanist standpoint.

>>865021

>eats as much resources as KDE or gNOme.

faggot. I've had a few odd issues, but NEVER have I seen XFCE eat up as much as EITHER of those two.

>>864747

But they didn't. The only reason Canonical dropped Unity was because maintaining and developing a DE is a fucking shitshow and drains a lot of money and man hours.

Unity 7 was stable and had a lot of useful features. Unity 8 was the closest thing GNU/Linux has ever had to a quality DE.

>>864781

Pajeets are Indians you fucking retard.

Normies would use Windows or MacOS.

>>865330

Sounds like BS. Backwards compatibility is what keeps Microsoft in business.

>>866119

So third-world normalfags then.

>>864412

Why are you using Manjaro instead of Arch in the first place?

>>866307

I haven't used Manjaro, but I could see myself using it instead of Arch because Arch is the embodiment of ricing busywork. The reason it doesn't have an installer is so people can feel smug about spending the extra 15 minutes doing it """properly""". And honestly, that's fine if that's your thing, I went through a phase like that, but it's not actually useful, and it's not for everyone.

I have the skill and knowledge needed to maintain a shell startup file to startx if I'm on tty1 and then launch redshift and feh and xbindkeys and xset and xmodmap with a customized i3config and a custom i3status wrapper shell script that adds memory usage and write up a .Xdefaults file to give urxvt the colors I want, and I used to do it that way, but not any more.

Now I grab a Debian Testing netinstall ISO, cp it to my usb drive's block device, and do a guided install with GNOME. I can configure keybindings by pressing keys, without entering key codes into a text file. I get my red-tinted display by enabling it in the display settings, instead of setting Redshift up to launch with my coordinates as a command line argument because it somehow can't figure out my time zone on its own. With no configuration out of the box I get screenshot shortcuts that work better than scrot because they never glitch out and leave lines from the selection box and they trivially integrate with the system clipboard. I could go on. The point is, it all works a little better than my old manual setup, and it takes less work to set up and maintain.

I used to enjoy ricing. Not any more. Now I just want to get a setup I'm comfortable with, and I want to spend as little effort on it as I reasonably can so it can get out of the way and let me focus on using my system.

Sent from my Emacs.

It isn't installed on mine. Y'all niggers trippin.

Manjaro is for fags anyways.

>>867101

>Implying Void doesn't, "just work"

>Implying Gentoo doesn't, "just work"

>Implying *BSD's don't, "just work"

GTFO

>>867130

instant drivers lmao eksDEEEEEEEE

>>864801

>>864797

Version of the Linux kernel did not support the video card, at the time that was.

>>867101

>fuck you if you screech about systemd

I don't use a display manager.

Xorg doesn't work properly on new kernels without systemd unless you do some major hacking.

>just use a DM

They don't offer anything useful when compared to console login and a simple post-login init script.

They hang frequently Hanging once a year is frequently when compared to console logins which never hang for me.

They're slow. systemd niggers always claim fast boot times when waiting an extra 2-10 seconds for the DM to finish loading is obscene.

>>867287

>Xorg doesn't work properly on new kernels without systemd

False. I had no uses without systemd when using LFS over the past year. Works just fine on Gentoo too.

>claim fast boot times when waiting an extra 2-10 seconds

Boot times don't matter too much to me. Usually I go at least a month between startups so it doesn't make any difference.

>>867101

What? Whats the problem with MATE? Im using ubuntu Mate artfull, and for being my first distro, it does it work, and the DE is good and practicall.

>>864498

>how is [Fedora] a "developer's" OS

It isn't. It's the beta version for CentOS. RedHat actively markets it as a "developer's" OS to trick imageboard users into being their free beta testers.

>>867468

Nah, sorry, I read wrong your post. Im dumb.

>>864400 (OP)

why the actual fuck would anyone use manjaro in the first place?

>>864409

My nigger.

>>864493

Most of the normalfags I know use tablets, smartphones, and Chromebooks these days. Barely anybody actually uses Windows outside a typical office setting and that is also becoming rarer.

>>867484

>why the actual fuck would anyone use manjaro in the first place?

too retarded to install arch without a gui

>>867717

>installing arch is hard or somehow indicative of being 'down' with technology

millennial who never did his own LFS detected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2efhrCxI4J0

>>867776

People just have other things to do, like writing desktop applications with js you now.