▶ No.839186>>839461
>sircmpwn
>reddit spacing
>browser thread
sage
▶ No.839187>>839190 >>839461
>Most of us are on flights today, hence the slow response, but I want to clarify two things:
>1. The study is not "still active and ongoing." It was pulled yesterday after the backlash, though that may take up to 24 hours to propagate: https://gizmodo.com/after-blowback-firefox-will-move-mr-robo...
>2. Even when "enabled" in the add-on manager, the add-on was completely inert unless a user also manually dove into about:config and specifically enabled a flag related to the add-on. Without taking that deliberate action, it didn't do anything but watch that flag. No headers, no word inversions, etc.
>If you'd like to verify my claims, the source lives at https://github.com/mozilla/addon-wr, and initialization is controlled by addon/bootstrap.js.
>This doesn't excuse our actions, but I hope it adds some context.
Wow it is fucking nothing.
▶ No.839188>>839190 >>839193 >>839461
>It has been clarified that an about:config flag must be set for this addon’s behavior to be visible.
literally fake news
▶ No.839190>>839197
>>839187
>>839188
This doesn't change the fact that this was a undocumented extension loaded in to browsers who enabled "experiment". Through another "experiment" in October they just hoovered up 1% of users browser history. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/09/mozilla_tests_cliqz_in_germany/
I'll sage too though I honestly can find a browser on my own was just curious if anyone had any decent suggestions.
▶ No.839193>>839194 >>839197 >>839240 >>839245 >>839825 >>854457
>>839188
>believing that would remain the case
and when you catch a naked man under your daughter's bed, who cares he hasn't raped anyone yet
>>839185 (OP)
icecat
vivaldi
brave
w3m
qupzilla
▶ No.839194>>846373
>>839185 (OP)
palememe (yes it sucks) and Links
>>839193
qupzilla a shit
▶ No.839196
Icecat or For Browser. Might try qupzilla.
▶ No.839197>>839201 >>839214 >>840804 >>858290
>>839190
>who enabled "experiment".
So? Literally only retards would enable this stupid shit.
>theregister.co.uk
Literally a fake news site.
>Mozilla has decided to experiment on its German users by opting-in around one per cent of them to a search recommendations service that slurps their browsing histories.
Even the first sentence contains many lies. This experiment wasn't enabled for 1% of german firefox users, but <1% downloads from mozillas site. Also the browsing history was not shared.
>>839193
>>believing that would remain the case
The experiment is over. Also it is open source: https://github.com/mozilla/addon-wr
But wait. I just realized that we are on /tech/. Nobody here actually knows how to read code.
▶ No.839199>>839203 >>855457
OP, listen:
1) This board is full of firefox shills. I've been posting things against firefox for years, and they always come swarming instantly. They will try to convince you that the valid problems with firefox are all "FUD" (dumb term, by the way) and that you should stay with firefox. Just ignore them.
2) Most common replacements are only a little better. For example, palemoon and icecat have many of the same problems ("phoning home" and such) as firefox. You're going to have to go outside the box. Try Midori, Qupzilla, Otter...whatever. But in the popular ones, you're not going to find a non-botnet replacement. And yes, I've tested all this.
▶ No.839201>>839202
>>839197
and after you kick the naked man after your house, who cares he isn't in your house anymore. Gosh, /tech/, you're so autistic. A bad thing in progress was caught out and removed due to a backlash because the bad people didn't hide it well enough. What's the issue? I see no issue.
▶ No.839202>>839204
>>839201
>A bad thing in progress was caught
Explain. Only retards who explicitly oprted into experiments got this experiment. Where is the issue?
>What's the issue? I see no issue.
Exactly
▶ No.839203>>839207
>>839199 (((You)))
>I've been shilling against Firefox for years
▶ No.839204>>839206
>>839202
I've been replying with qupzilla, but for kicks I fired up firefox.
oh hey experiments are enabled
I definitely didn't opt in to that.
▶ No.839205
>>839185 (OP)
>AdNauseam
i wonder who could be behind this addon
daniel c. howe
>retweets talcum x
(((mushon zer-aviv)))
>born in fucking israel. enough said
(((helen nissenbaum)))
>visiting scholar at Hebrew University of Jerusalem
>selected publications: A game design methodology to incorporate social activist themes (2005) and Values at play: design tradeoffs in socially-oriented game design (2007)
you know what they say about almonds don't you
▶ No.839206>>839209
>>839204
>oh hey experiments are enabled
They are not enabled by default. So yes, you have opted into them.
▶ No.839207>>839211
>>839203
No, I've only posted true things that firefox did wrong. How can you shill AGAINST something, anyway? I don't really care about what browser is popular. I don't have a dog in the fight. I only want the crap that mozilla does to be exposed. If people still want to use FF in that case, then so be it.
▶ No.839208>>839213 >>855459
<palememe removed adnauseum
>the creator of palememe explains how to install it anyways in the same post where he removed it.
▶ No.839209>>839212
>>839206
man it's spooky how settings are only how I don't want them when I use software from certain developers.
▶ No.839211>>861027
>>839207
>How can you shill AGAINST something, anyway?
You tell me
>I don't have a dog in the fight.
Then why are you shilling against Firefox?
>I only want the crap that mozilla does to be exposed.
Agreed
▶ No.839212
▶ No.839213
>>839208
PM still sends out uniquely identifying requests. Run a local proxy and see. It's barely better than FF.
▶ No.839214>>839226
>>839197
>Literally only retards would enable this stupid shit.
Dude lmao if I punch someone only a retard wouldn't block it lol
▶ No.839218>>839252 >>839693
>Supports NoScript-like functionality, either built-in or through an addon
>Allows tabs to span, rather than crunching them into one fucking area like this fucking bullshit
I didn't think it was asking for too much, but the only reason I'm married to Firefox (via Palememe) is because it (they) are the only fucking browsers that fulfill these two simple criteria. If someone wants me to switch, this is the minimum barrier for entry. Qutebrowser had some promising developments but development has gone at a snail's pace, and they added a CoC so I've got sub-zero confidence that anything will come about.
▶ No.839224
▶ No.839226
>>839214
What are you even trying to say?
▶ No.839240
>>839193
>vivaldi
>installing a black box
KYS
▶ No.839252
>>839218
Daily reminder chrome is made by cucked manlets
▶ No.839254>>839260 >>839277 >>839648
Palemoon looks the bst option at the moment. And I tried IceCat, but the browser doesnt let me create thread in 8chan, and cant see the update/auto in the low part of a thread; Plus there are websites that even whitelisted by Noscript/Umatrix, still dont load or have issues. This happens even when I deactivate GNU Librejava/script. I dont know what to do...
▶ No.839260>>839270
>>839254
8chan clearly isn't respecting your freedoms
▶ No.839270
>>839260
No but really, it something affecting me only? Then how do people browse 8ch in iceCat then?
▶ No.839272>>839275
▶ No.839275>>839541
>>839272
I also use lynx. Posting with it right now.
Firefox and any other "modern" browser is garbage.
▶ No.839277>>839293 >>839648
>>839254
I tried Icecat in the past too but I had so many problems I dropped it almost immediately. It can respect my freedoms all it wants but if I can't do even basic things like read manga or watch videos, then what's the point? If I have to switch back to a different browser half the time, why use Icecat at all?
▶ No.839293
>>839277
Most websites have javascript programs that disrespect your freedom. The consequence is that there are many kinds of websites that abuse this by causing programs to spy on you and track where you are. When you use Icecat, non-free programs are restricted by default so it is impossible for your freedoms to be harmed. Only free Javascript programs will have the right to run in the Icecat browser.
▶ No.839301>>839311 >>839559 >>839719 >>840863 >>843894 >>853792 >>854457
Pale Moon furry doesn't care about users' privacy at all
▶ No.839311
>>839301
What's so wrong about hitting that button that removes all cookies?
▶ No.839461>>839465
>>839186
>>839187
>>839188
mozilla (((shills))) out in full force.
▶ No.839465
>>839461
(((fake news shills out in full force)))
▶ No.839468
Fuck off. I never had any issue. If you care anything about your privacy you already disabled whatever let's Firefox do this stuff.
▶ No.839476>>839484
>shilling for sorosfox
Do you do it for free?
▶ No.839484
>>839476
Of course I do, that's how free software works.
▶ No.839541>>839680
>>839275
Can you not see images then? And why do you do it? You can still be tracked, so what benefits does it offer you? Just curious. I've always liked the minimalism of those text browsers, but I never saw any real reason to switch to them over a simple and minimal browser that actually can load images and let me do what I want to do.
▶ No.839559
>>839301
>I'm retarded the post
▶ No.839582>>839584
>this much salt on HN, leddit, and cuckchan
▶ No.839584>>839631
>>839582
it's chromedrones and google shills trying to concern-troll and FUD about firefox and mozilla
▶ No.839631>>839654
>>839584
>ackward 1/10 forced memes
you sound like the rustfag that mozilla pays to shit up boards with rust threads.
▶ No.839632>>839655 >>839657 >>839660
>>839185 (OP)
Safari. Upgrade your computer to a Mac, and you'll get it for free.
▶ No.839648>>839706
▶ No.839654>>839674
>>839631
But I do it for free. I will start making Rust threads again after Christmas.
▶ No.839655
>>839632
not sure if trolling or just stupid
▶ No.839657
>>839632
The last good Macs were PowerPC
▶ No.839659
>>839185 (OP)
Sorry, OP. Just like most politics, it's become a choice between a self-righteous douche and a shit sandwich.
▶ No.839660
>>839632
Or, upgrade to windows and get a free buggy pwm that leaks your info.
▶ No.839674
>>839654
I'll downvote them.
Sent from my iPhone
▶ No.839680>>857915 >>858085
>>839541
"links -g" displays images. One good reason to use simple browsers is that modern browsers don't run well on vintage hardware. (My computer is vintage.) While one can be tracked regardless of browser choice, modern browsers like firefox present the additional risk of security holes that can compromise your entire system.
The web was never supposed to support media. It was never supposed to accost you with unwanted audio or video. It was never supposed to hijack your screen and show you pictures you did not ask for. It was never supposed to make your browser run code (js) without your permission. It was only supposed to display text (useful info) in a simple manner.
I do email with an email client. Youtube videos can be fetched with a script. Several porn sites work well with "links -g", allowing you to download their videos directly. Firefox users probably have to sign up with the site or use an add-on to get that functionality.
This is how I do things on my "main" personal computer. (Old laptop with OpenBSD.) Has all my personal emails, software projects, documents, etc. I have a separate computer (Mac) for [work/school]. I use it for research & writing, study materials, and work/school email. I will sometimes use that machine for personal things, such as internet shopping or listening to music on youtube while working. But no serious personal stuff happens on it.
▶ No.839693>>839698
>>839218
>Qutebrowser had some promising developments but development has gone at a snail's pace, and they added a CoC so I've got sub-zero confidence that anything will come about.
But they just released a new update that actually sped up performance.
The CoC is a red flag though
▶ No.839698
▶ No.839704>>839705 >>839707 >>839836 >>854457
I've found literary the perfect browser. In Qt examples there is simple browser project which is basic browser built with QtWebEngine - chromium with all google botnet removed. Only thing that needs to be modified is to implement adblocking and/or plugins.
▶ No.839705
>>839704
I did the samething with webkit in C. You get the core and a pretty much functioning browser with less than 100 lines of code. Everything else is just writing a front-end, and I presume there's a bunch of options to expose.
This really is the best answer. Most of the browsers out now are either spyware/adware or CoC infected cancer. With webkit or qtwebengine, writing your own browser (or the front-end anyway) is easy.
I assume if you really wanted to you could go in and rewrite/override parts of webkit or qtwebengine if you think you could improve on it or really want something done differently.
▶ No.839706>>839760 >>858047
>>839648
>go to waterfox website
>targeted at Mac users
>big banner linking to their official subreddit before even the "About Waterfox"
Was this a joke suggestion that I should be ashamed to have taken seriously?
▶ No.839707>>839709
>>839704
Or just use a real browser based on that - like qutebrowser, QupZila/Falkon, or Otter Browser.
▶ No.839709>>839759
>>839707
which will inevitably turn into bloated cancer, try to monetize and introduce spyware, call for white genocide and promote faggotry just like firefox did.
▶ No.839718>>839757
I used firefox 56.0.2 with upgrades turned off.
▶ No.839719>>839801
>>839301
Is pale moon that god awful browser that forces a shitty "alt+tab" layover to ctrl+tab use?
▶ No.839757>>839763
>>839718
enjoy being fucked in ass by exploits
▶ No.839759>>839766
>>839709
so the idea is to avoid using any system or standard which is too complex to be possible to reimplement by one person in a few months?
▶ No.839760>>839764
>>839706
>>targeted at Mac users
maybe it's because you were browsing with a Mac user agent or otherwise had triggered the gay detector?
▶ No.839763>>839789
>>839757
>implying I'm not behind 13 proxies and an impenetrable firewall
▶ No.839764>>839767 >>858047
>>839760
Multiple browsers, multiple OSes, none of them Apple-related, and all giving the same thing.
▶ No.839766>>839789
>>839759
that would be a nice goal but it's unrealistic. qtwebengine and webkit would be impossible for one person to recreate in a few months. now that there out though and so easy to use there's no reason not to use the lower level library and then implement your own browser with it. all of the cancer in modern browsers is implemented at that higher level. while it's certainly possible i kind of doubt they're going to infect qtwebengine or webkit with the aids, they'll leave it to the individual browser devs, or nobody would be using the libraries.
▶ No.839767>>839937
>>839764
Why would you lie when it's so easy to verify?
▶ No.839770>>839782 >>839794 >>839808
Give me a good graphical browser recommendation that:
1. Isn't Links
2. Either has binaries for PPC Linux or isn't hell to compile
3. Will run on a system with a 700MHz CPU and 64MB RAM
:^)
▶ No.839782
▶ No.839789
>>839763
you don't know what you're talking about, kiddo
>>839766
in this case it means eschewing the web
▶ No.839790>>841078
▶ No.839794>>840045
>>839770
netsurf or dillo I guess.
▶ No.839801
>>839719
Oh god, this. Is there a way to disable this cancer?
▶ No.839808
>>839770
Build cross-compiler for ppc computer, build Qupzilla, transfer binaries.
▶ No.839825>>839832
>>839193
None of those browsers are viable options. Firefox and Chromium have huge developer and user teams, so security bugs are fixed faster. Open source Webkit hobby browsers are notoriously insecure.
▶ No.839832
>>839825
How so? What does safari do on top of webkit to make it more secure than any old hobby browser?
▶ No.839836>>839899 >>848288
>>839704
After some ricing, behold Cirno Browser!
Features:
no botnet
easy ricing with CSS with Qt stylesheets (just create ~/.style.qss in your home folder)
minimal design
fast with low memory usage*
no CoC
no hipster flat design
*compared to Firefox, Chrome and Microsoft Edge
▶ No.839899>>839945
>>839836
>no script blocker
▶ No.839937>>839943 >>858047
>>839767
>Why would you lie when it's so easy to verify?
The obvious answer is that I wouldn't and didn't.
I think I figured out what's going on.
If you refresh the page and watch how the various elements load, the button always says Mac at first, and only changes to the correct text about half a second later. If you look at the screenshots, you can see that the constellation things are also missing from mine.
Apparently the page would only partly load, so it would never change from the Mac button for me. Must be some sort of network problem, because it was present on multiple physically separate machines.
▶ No.839943
>>839937
He's a consumer, so he has JavaScript enabled which changes the text, you don't so you see the default.
▶ No.839945
>>839899
>don't make your own browser goy, it's insecure! ignore the 5000 security reports we heavily censor and/or delete on our semi-public bug trackers. just trust our massive development teams staffed with the very fattest blue haired whales and poo's straight off the shit streets.
▶ No.839964>>839967 >>840072
All alt-browsers are just dickriding the rendering engines made by Mozilla or Google anyway. You'd need an absolutely massive team to make a real fork.
▶ No.839967>>840860
▶ No.840045>>840079
>>839794
Dillo is shit, it still doesn't support basic CSS2 like inline-block. Netsurf is alright but it's about as bloated as Mozilla Suite, not something you'll really enjoy using at 64MB
▶ No.840072
>>839964
This is actually a good thing. People complaining about the UI can afford to fix these kinds of issues while leaving the internal work of web page rendering to those big players.
▶ No.840078>>853820
>>840068
I'd use it but I'm on winshit and I don't feel like compiling it and shit
▶ No.840079>>840123
>>840045
Dillo isn't great as far as standard support but it runs on very very low resources somewhere between links -g and netsurf. I really think you're giving netsurf a hard time though. You should try it. If you don't want netsurf dillo or links on a 64mb system I think you might just be out of luck.
▶ No.840123>>840130
>>840079
>I really think you're giving netsurf a hard time though. You should try it.
I have both of them installed and I wouldn't want to use either as a daily driver, even on a museum piece like that. Netsurf-gtk2 uses ~80MB at startup and that'll cripple a low memory box
▶ No.840130
>>840123
>gtk
that's probably the issue, run the frambuffer version. It can run on actual garbage with half as much ram as you like the old amigas and ps2s for example.
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Mojdsq2-VRw
▶ No.840208
▶ No.840211
I'm right now on waterfox. Seamless transition and no BS. Happy with it for the one day I've been using it.
▶ No.840411>>840773
>>839185 (OP)
I gave up and moved to Chromium and it's derivatives
▶ No.840412
I'm running palemoon with adnauseam
▶ No.840773
>>840411
I never even uninstalled chromium tbh. I gave firefox an honest try for a week after 57 came out, and it felt like chrome with no attention to detail and a UX thick with condescending metaphors aimed at making toddlers and valley homosexuals giggle. It was fast enough to use but that means nothing when every background xmlhttprequest has a 40% chance of crashing the tab.
And then they pulled this shit.
echo '<www-client/firefox-75' >> /etc/portage/package.mask/fire-your-ceo
▶ No.840804>>858290
>>839197
>So? Literally only retards would enable this stupid shit.
Experiments are enabled by default in quantum. Also, even after I unchecked experiments in preferences it was still enabled in about:config. Not even joking. This was also on a fresh Ubuntu install without sync turned on. Plus there's reports of updates reenabling experiments without user input. That's some Windows 10 level bullshit.
▶ No.840851
This board really needs IDs.
▶ No.840857>>840863
▶ No.840860
>>839967
The only browser engine worth using.
▶ No.840863>>854457
>>839301
It's only a matter of time before Fale Meme is forced to switch to Quantum anyway.
>>840857
Tor Browser should switch to that already, let Gecko die already.
Mozilla should just make Firefox Focus their main project.
▶ No.841077
>forgot about the new version
>apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
Oooh you fucker, they killed requestpolicy, they killed Rikaichan. Utter bullshit.
▶ No.841078>>841085
>>839790
Any reason not to use this?
▶ No.841085
>>841078
ungoogled-chromium is better
▶ No.842637>>842663 >>842686
>>839185 (OP)
>blog post about firefox being on a slippery slope
>not mentioning SJW cancer at Mozilla at all
▶ No.842663
>>842637
In the long run it's a very small part of the bigger picture. Was it SJWs that caused Mozilla to consolidate bookmark data into a single giant SQLITE file fucking over multi-account and multi-system usage setups around v4.0? This is a very long-term trend that began a long time ago when Chrome first hit the scene of them selling out their users and values.
▶ No.842686>>843479
▶ No.842708>>843868
The most usable firefox fork is waterfox.
Other than that you might as well as use tor.
Or swtich over to the UNIX masterrace Safari, leave that chink unix behind.
▶ No.843039
▶ No.843405
America has never been a democracy nor will it ever be. It is a constitutional Republic.
All socialist must be slaughtered.
▶ No.843479>>844166
>>842686
Everything he hates about the current systems and the utopian system he wishes for was already fulfilled by National Socialism. Sadly, people like him are so brainwashed by the victors over NS that he will hate it with every ounce of his being, just as planned.
▶ No.843518
>palemoon removed adnausiam
Good.
▶ No.843868>>846251
>>842708
Waterfox is absolute murder on RAM usage. I started using it a week ago and multiple times already I've found it using over 8GB for only a dozen tabs.
▶ No.843876>>843878
>>840068
How are you even browsing 8ch, if you are using Icecat, then? because the last time I used Icecat I couldn't create threads, or let me see if the threads being updated.
▶ No.843878>>843879 >>847022
>>843876
Maybe because I disabled the addons like libreJS and use umatrix instead.
Maybe you should explore your browser first.
▶ No.843879
>>843878
But I deactivated LibreJS. And I use both Umatrix & Noscript, but even when the site is whitelisted, and with Umatrix, all 8ch is in green, the problem persist.
▶ No.843894
>>839301
>WARNING ALERT ALERT WE USE COOKIES
blocked page there
still not nearly as bad as firefux tho
▶ No.844151
▶ No.844166>>844175 >>844415
>>843479
He is a VERY silly billy just like every other pathetic excuse of a 'socialist' that exists today. The kind that would be first up against the wall in a real revolution. There's a very good reason as to why nu-commies have moved away from "workers of the world unite" to "dude post-scarcity lmao"
▶ No.844175>>844177
>>844166
>muh based commies
A different shade of red is still red, homo.
▶ No.844177>>844415
▶ No.844415>>846312 >>846332
>>844177
>>844166
Both new and old commies are bad, the bolshevik revolution was funded by globalist jews to control after killing the russian czar. Although many of the soldiers were masquline Orthodox Russian men, most were being led by a military primarily against national interests.
sage for off-topic, politics should honestly be reserved for left or right /pol/ , but since you brought it up I must shitpost.
▶ No.846251
>>843868
Something must be going wrong on your end, then. I have 30+ tabs open in Waterfox and my RAM usage hasn’t gone above about 2.5 gigs.
▶ No.846312
>>844415
It's also globalist Jewish agenda to fight against the commies, especially in the US.
▶ No.846332>>846775
>>844415
I hate commies, but your picture is pants-on-head retarded. "Surrounded and Funded by jews" my ass
▶ No.846373
>>839194
>Links
Are you a pajeet?
▶ No.846827
>>846637
>opera feature bloat
>it's a feature!
This is the worst meme.
▶ No.847022>>847183 >>847690
>>843878
>umatrix
how the fuck did you get it to work? I try to install it on Icecat and it bitches that it can't be installed because of version differences.
▶ No.847183
▶ No.847613
firefox/gecko is a huge waste of time and effort but Mozilla wants to keep it around because they make a ton of money by conning neckbeards into using it.
there's nothing firefox does that chrome/safari/opera/brave etc doesn't do better.
▶ No.847690>>847697
>>847022
That is why you should stop using meme browsers and go for the big boys like Waterfox or Pale Moon.
▶ No.847697>>847708
>>847690
if you don't use a webkit based browser you're gay.
▶ No.847708
>>847697
If you use webkit based browser you are gay.
▶ No.847715
>>846775
Do you believe this gonna proof anything aside your political agenda?
▶ No.847720
want the old fucking buffering style back so you dont have to stop the vid cause of their bad servers or your shitty isp?
check it>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1168957
▶ No.848252>>848355
Is there a browser that isn't based on firefox or chrome, works solidly, is fast, low resources as in it doesn't grab 2gb of memory for a page of text and secure.
Or are they all just shit. I haven't enjoyed using a browser since about 1995.
▶ No.848254
I just want a good browser. Too bad none exist as far as I'm concerned.
▶ No.848288
>>839836
Nice showflakes.
Is this animation implemented in CSS or JavaScript?
▶ No.848308
▶ No.848355
>>848252
Dillo and Netsurf.
▶ No.853765
Just tried out Brave, wasn't a fan. Already uninstalled it. I'm using Windows or I'd try IceCat.
Been honestly looking for an alternative to using Chrome and Firefox for years. But haven't really liked a lot of the others I've tried. I was using Opera for a short time a couple of years ago out of curiosity for the free VPN but then got tired of it real fast and went back to botnet and fuckfox.
I'm going to have to use something that's somewhat able to be customized or at least comes with or can acquire a "dark theme" I can't stand bright screens.
▶ No.853792
>>839301
>complains about privacy
>uses wangblows 10
like pottery
▶ No.853820
>>840078
go get the gcc faggot.
▶ No.854386
For a properly functional browser, you simply need a good selection of plugins, seeing as the devs are too chickenshit to include customizable adblocking, userscripts, advanced tab management etc. right into the browser because muh bloat. Nevermind that the modern internet is quite literally not worth using without several of those things. To say nothing of not even considering any features involving regex to give you finer control, because normies would shit a brick. So we're stuck with FF 56- and its forks, until someone either creates a browser with ana amazing addon capability, or just plain prioritize all the features that actually matter while telling normies to shove their e-mail managers and cloud syncing crap up their asses.
▶ No.854454
>Recommend me software
It's called the sticky, faggot.
▶ No.854457
The fact that browsers and internet have become shit isn't the devs own fault but the userbase.
The normie userbase is the plague.
>>839185 (OP)
>(((adnauseam)))
literally nothing to worry about
palemoon
>patches compromised ciphers during age of leaks (only oldfags know)
>native addons pale moon commander allows you to choose your own ciphers
>eclipsed moon addon
>supports almost every anti-botnet addons
even hotwheels support pale moon now. I won't give up on pale moon
>>839193
vivaldi: reinvent the wheel v1 / babbys first hype clone
brave: reinvent the wheel v2 ft. botnet ads (if I'm not mistaken)
^hyped '"FOSS projects"' during forced windows 10 restart and linux migrants age
icecat: quite okay but still have insane about:config, sync, safebrowsing/malware protection, marketplace/hello etc.
w3m: unusable for certain tasks but at the very least it works
qupzilla: passable but lacking in antibotnet plugins - can do if you have good firewall or router
firefox: cancerous bloat, mr robot and doge meme, might as well just install nightly for extra telemetry and go back to fucking /g/, bloat
google chrome: hopeless
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chromium: werks but still problematic. ungoogled chromium is better choice although the development sucks
seamonkey: quite good, doesn't contain those damned australis addons but still have to configure
palemoon: the only sane about:config and not fell for touch meme
others real FOSS browsers based on webkit or qtwebengine
(^not hype/reinvent the wheel meme)
>>839245
good to see that anon's project is at work
>>839301
>muh cockies
that's the domain's problem, not the client software.
>>839704
that benchmark isn't even accurate. you can reload the page and get varying results
>>840863
>It's only a matter of time before Fale Meme is forced to switch to Quantum anyway.
Impossible. most of the userbase are OCD enough to stop using pale moon when GUI changes drastically.
It's impossible to integrate quantum into goanna let alone fork quantum and audit the code
Also, the dev hates 'chromefox'
▶ No.854458
▶ No.855019>>855021 >>855046 >>863195
>FF makes itself obsolete by losing old addon library
>Palemoon now has a great edge
>FF will be purging AMO of legacy addons anyway
Fuck everything. We need some egghead to crawl and archive the AMO, including older and beta versions, before FF60 hits.
▶ No.855021>>855026
>>855019
Nah, fuck em. Fuck all of em. If they don't provide the fucking .xpi as a static link on their addon's github release page, they're not worth jack shit. 99.9% of the crap on firefox's AMO was malware infested garbage written by Chinks and Pajeets.
▶ No.855026>>855039
>>855021
Many addons, especially smaller ones, don't even have a page at all, or even were started before git became popular.
And I confess I never stumbled upon any malware there.
▶ No.855039
>>855026
>they couldn't even put their shit up in source control
Worthless.
▶ No.855046>>855060
>>855019
>upgrade is bad because deprecated technology you use finally becomes unsupported
You don't belong anywhere near electronic devices.
▶ No.855060>>855086
>>855046
No, the upgrade is bad because it's bad.
▶ No.855064
>>839185 (OP)
The answer is Waterfox
▶ No.855086>>855434 >>858295
>>855060
He is the kind of retard who has auto update enabled in his play store. Software mostly just gets worse over time. Try Firefox 2, it is insanely fast.
▶ No.855434
>>855086
It also has a vastly outdated engine. You may as well use Lyx at that point.
▶ No.855457>>857878
>>839199
>This board is full of firefox shills.
Since when? This board has been unanimous in its hatred for pozilla since years ago when they first announced they planned to kill xul add-ons.
▶ No.855459>>855505
>>839208
Yeah all you have to do is remove all protection against malware add-ons and leave your browser completely exposed. That's totally not punishing the users for daring to use an add-on that the almighty dev personally dislikes, no sir it's completely fair and 100% reasonable.
▶ No.855505>>858316
>>855459
Why does your browser need protection against malware? Why are you choosing to malware into your web browser at all?
▶ No.857873>>858004
You guys should check out breach.js and Fifth Browser (FOSS). I really wish you could pay for a better browser like what QtWeb could've been.
▶ No.857878
>>855457
I shill for Firefox for free.
▶ No.857915
>>839680
>The web was never supposed to support media. It was never supposed to accost you with unwanted audio or video. It was never supposed to hijack your screen and show you pictures you did not ask for. It was never supposed to make your browser run code (js) without your permission. It was only supposed to display text (useful info) in a simple manner.
It's a shame that the modern web has to rely so heavily on css and js. I use links when I need a lightweight browser that won't take up too many resources while I compile a lot of shit or have videos rendering. It's really nice, but 90% of websites don't even try to look remotely presentable without css or js; which is a bummer because it makes general webpage readability hard without it.
▶ No.858004
>>857873
Wow such achtive development.
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▶ No.858043
>>839185 (OP)
LYNX MASTER RACE
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▶ No.858047
>>839706
>>839764
>>839937
only an autistic nigger on /tech/ would refuse to use a web browser because its website isn't in tip-top shape.
please gas yourself and your family.
▶ No.858085
>>839680
You can still do all this today! Disable the video and audio! Disable the Javascript!
▶ No.858290
>>839197
You are a fucking retard
>>840804
This, so much.
▶ No.858293
>>839185 (OP)
>Palemoon removed adnausiam
if I remember correctly the extension had a few problems running under PM anyway (icons disappearing, etc), and they moved off XUL pretty soon after PM tried to blocked it, so the recent versions aren't even compatible
▶ No.858295
>>855086
>Try Firefox 2, it is insanely fast.
▶ No.858316>>858454
>>855505
>dude you don't need a condom if you just don't fuck chicks with AIDS lmao
▶ No.858454
>>858316
Who are you quoting?
▶ No.861002>>861019
>Firefox 57.0 to 57.0.4 update created a shitstorm by quietly switching the default search engine back to google
>let's not listen to our users and do the same shit for the 58.0 update
>but let's also reenable all datareporting, ping and study features
>let's turn off first party isolation too if the security conscious user should have turned it on
Are there only blue and green haired faggots and teenage girl acting sluts in their thirties working at Mozilla now? Do their release engineers think the users are happy to see half their settings changed for no good reason?
▶ No.861019
>>861002
At this point "release" firefox is just like win10, a glorified beta that treats its users like idiots, following the example set by google. 58 also had a drive-by remote execution exploit in their shitty react devtools. Use ESR.
▶ No.861027
>>839211
<You shill against X
>How do you do that?
<I don't know
▶ No.862578
▶ No.863124>>863195 >>863198
Can you install firefox addons on pale moon?
▶ No.863195
I miss Presto Opera...
>>863124
Non Webextension crap? Many of them.
All FF 27.9 and below work. Most other versions up to at least FF52 should work. Just remember to use the Moon Tester addon which allows you to force any addon on Pale Moon to test if it really works out (ignoring the FF version #). Or you could manually edit the .xpi but its obviously easier this way.
>>855019
They have their own add-on site, which is slowly growing due to the FF exiles and a xpi archive for when AMO goes down. Many of the addons in said archive will probably end up in their addons site (at least those with permissive licenses).
▶ No.863198
>>863124
Some of them are compatible and some need to be substituted for alternatives or PM-specific ones. Enjoy Swedish furry browser, I started using it years ago and don't really see why I should stop.
▶ No.864929>>865032
If moral addon policing was not repulsive enough, Pale Moon is now threatening ports with legal action. Starting an issue with "you will..."? Top grade asshole material there.
https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
http://archive.is/BrEQP
▶ No.865032
>>864929
>https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
>Bad goy those options are only there for vanity purposes
>you will not change the default options
Someone should have gassed this insufferable furfag and all of his friends long ago.