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 No.819695>>819813 >>819938 >>820015 >>820209 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>16GB of RAM

>Skylake i7

>modern browsers still running like complete FUCKING DOGSHIT

Just why? I am seriously thinking about just using w3m since at least it doesn't freeze or crash browsing a goddamn news article.

>Embedded Javascript Bitcoin mining now a thing

FUCK YOU!

 No.819773>>821903

I also have 16GBs of RAM and a Skylake i7 and tbh everything I do feels too fast

You could try a non-shit browser like Chromium or get an SSD


 No.819778

>this goy bought 16GB RAM and i7

>the only thing he gets is newest botnet and backdoors

>he doesn't know browsers are broken at the basics and no cpu and ram will help this

I am using 10 times slower cpu than you yet I can do everything you can do on a PC, except web browsing of course.

<Embedded Javascript Bitcoin mining now a thing

now imagine when every site will start using that and you open a lot of tabs

also, the faster CPU you have, the more bitcoin miners will generate for them, and the more you will pay for electricity


 No.819813>>819921

>>819695 (OP)

>seriously thinking about just using w3m

so use it anon. it's good. it's not a meme.

it's just not good for everything.

and it's probably quite bad at this 'news article' thing you're talking about.


 No.819822>>819883

The new Firefox will be much snappier, if you try the beta you can see that.


 No.819828>>819920 >>821903

I'm using Chromium 58 with nothing but uBlock Origin, and not only am I using a dual-core i5 (with hyperthreading), but I ALSO have my CPU underclocked to about 1.2GHz on battery (it's a new option in power settings with the creators update, it's pretty nifty).

Shit doesn't lag or stutter once. Granted, because of the underclocking on battery, it sometimes takes about 2 seconds in that scenario to render heavy wepages, but that's it. Graphics rendering is the only thing that takes time. I have a YouTube video going a lot of the time, and there's plenty of juice left over for whatever the fuck.


 No.819883>>820301

>>819822

The main problem I have with Firefox isn't its speed (in a session I've just started, even with a lot of tabs open), but its horrifying memory leaks. It seems like every 3 hours or so, as my entire computer gradually slows to a crawl, I have to "sudo kill firefox" before it causes the WM to become completely unresponsive and start Firefox up again.


 No.819920

>3 CYE

>not using uMatrix

>not blocking all 3rd party scripts

>not blocking the source server for the cancerous bitcoin miner

>>819828

>creators update

>windows


 No.819921>>821903

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>>819813

IME, a lot of news articles work ok in Lynx. It's mostly the user comments that are broken, but I don't care about that. The formatting and such can be strange, but that's because Lynx doesn't care about CSS or anything besides plain HTML. But the content is there, and that's what matters.

Something like Elinks (which allows easy scripting) could be used to fix formatting problems, but I don't care that much.

http://elinks.or.cz/

Of course if they do tons of video embedding, it becomes harder, but I'm pretty much just interested in text most of the time. And even Lynx will load images into external viewer if you ask it to.


 No.819938>>821904

>>819695 (OP)

It is the Javascript programs that are normally embedded within each web page that slows everything down. If you disable Javascript (install Noscript), you'll find that things render a lot faster. I use LibreJS to disable non-free Javascript which is pretty much everything.


 No.819943

Opera runs pretty well for me


 No.819994

Tbh just wait until all browsers are rewritten in Rust.

Firefox is already 200x faster than before and it isn't even fully rusted yet.

Rust will legit save browsers.


 No.820004>>820022 >>820031 >>820211

I have been using suckless surf for a week or so and it's not bad. I'm sure someone can give me some reasons that it's terrible, but any browser is terrible if you look hard enough.


 No.820015

>>819695 (OP)

>Me

>4GB 1333 RAM

>1st generation lowest i7

>1080p screen, Radeon 250

>Snappy browser

Your browser is shit, shitty OP.

Btw, I use Opera developer.


 No.820022>>820031

>>820004

Have you tried NetSurf? It's another minimal browser, originally made for riscOS.


 No.820031>>820033

>>820022

>>820004

How many undiscovered CVEs do these niche browsers have?


 No.820033

>>820031

I guess it's kinda hard to tell. On one hand, there could be more vulnerabilities due to being so niche. On the other hand, these browsers are made to minimize bloat, so there's less code there to be potentially vulnerable.


 No.820042>>820072 >>820144

>have kepler gpu

>install GAHNOO PLUS LOONIX

>noveau is bundled, works out of the box

10/10 it's ok

>install OpenMW

>Voodoo 5 tier performance

tfw

>sometime later install proprietary drivers

>performance skyrockets

>wtf I was told noveau works great on kepler

>close gayme, open browser

>notice screen tearing out the ass

>this is with vsync enabled in the compositor

THANKS NVIDIA


 No.820054

>Skylake i7

theres your problem, you arent using coffee lake i7


 No.820072>>820238

>>820042

Did you try to manually re-clock your gpu before launching any game?

Nouveau doesn't do auto re-clock to the maximum clock possible, you have to manually change your clock speed.


 No.820144>>820238

>>820042

>>have kepler gpu

Found your problem


 No.820209>>820982 >>821904

>>819695 (OP)

Firefox on an old 2008 Thinkpad just works on my end. You're probably running Windows.


 No.820211

>>820004

surf sucks more than Firefox/Chromium, because it uses WebkitGTK+, which is slow, buggy, unmaintained, and full of security holes.


 No.820238

>>820072

installing nouveau from a ricer's ppa fixed it, unexpectedly. now the performance is on par with the proprietary drivers, no manual reclocking needed.

>>820144

>buy used desktop replacement laptop

>get good deal, like about 600 burger coupons for a 4c8t ivy bridge + k1000m

>chassis is scuffed but whatever

>system is used so neither (((intel))) nor (((nvidia))) are seeing any of my money

I would have liked a GCN firepro/radeon but I couldn't find any deals at all where I live so whatever


 No.820275>>820507

>10 year old laptop upgraded to 3GB of RAM

>intel multicore multi GHz superscalar processor

>cannot compile palememe because 4GB RAM required

>palememe runs like dogshit but not as bad as firecox

>firecox 57 quantum faggot edition uses a bunch of bullshit to appear faster to normalfags

>palememe will still be shit regardless of whether it aquires this "technology"

FUCK YOU


 No.820301>>820933

>>819883

>sudo kill firefox

>kill accepts program names

Way to out yourself, LARPer


 No.820507>>820508

>>820275

>>cannot compile palememe because 4GB RAM required

lolwut? I compiled palememe on a gentoo install on a laptop with 2GB ram. It just takes a really long time (90 mins for me) and gives a sphincter message to your RAM because of swapping.


 No.820508

>>820507

s/to your RAM/to your harddisk/


 No.820523>>820712

>running 10yo old Intel 32bit dualcore CPU, at 2.1GHz on Linux minimal install OS

>your puter's old, anon, should buy a new, more powerful machine

I can run anything at basically immediate computation, do everything instantly, even encode two videos at the same time while I listen to some music or watch some porn.

>but you need something more modern so you can run them internet browsers

>and that's fine, ok, and just the natural state of tech nowadays

Ok *give them a bunch of cash*


 No.820712>>820861 >>820982

>>820523

>I can run anything at basically immediate computation, do everything instantly, even encode two videos at the same time while I listen to some music or watch some porn.

I too can lie on the internet


 No.820861>>820982 >>821904

>>820712

But he can encode 2 videos at once while listening to music.

The music will only stutter a little bit, the computer won't respond to any input and rendering a ten minute video will take 2 hours.

But he can do it.


 No.820898>>821545 >>821904

I don't get this "need" to encode videos, much less two at a time (and while listenting to music, no less). Is this chan invaded by a bunch of youtube e-celebs or something?

Stuff I need to do: edit text files, compile small/medium programs, occasionally compile kernel & OS stuff (not including bloated junk like Firefox), use text-based network clients, use PDF/PS viewer, use simple image viewer, sometimes play non-HD videos or MP3 and such. All that works fine on any old Pentium-M laptop, and maybe even a Pentium II would work good enough.


 No.820933

>>820301

also

>needs to use sudo to kill a user program


 No.820982>>821904

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>>820861

>>820712

I use cmus, and music has literally never stuttered on my computer. If I try the same thing I was describing there with GUI programs, then yeah I may have some of them breaking. The only scenario I've had here is overheating the CPU so much the computer turned off, a couple of times through the years not as a frequent thing.

It just werks, and it's free and it's fast, niggers. Cry all you want.

>>820209

This. Firefox and javascript are indeed a bitch, but the scenario most of these faggots are describing in this thread is clearly on Windows, or at most bloated shit like Ubuntu.

Anyway, problem between the computer and the chair, not /tech/


 No.821521

>software is so bloated these days that people have to reside with command line programs in framebuffer that still consume up more RAM than most advanced GUIs 10 years ago.

What an age to live.


 No.821545>>821904

>>820898

Some people feel the need to have "the best" and will shit on anything that isn't. They have no sense of nuance, they only work on superlatives.

I like to see tools for what they are and find applications for them. I use a laptop as my daily driver and Internet terminal machine. Whenever I need to do batch processing work, I keep a server computer that is also used for my permanent services (calendar, audio/visual services, file/data services). I use a dedicated gaming console for video games.


 No.821574>>821579

Don't mind me, just checking how 8chan plays with W3M.


 No.821579>>821904 >>821954

>>821574

It works okay. Selecting the text field opens up my preferred text editor, which I like. You still have to open up a Javascript-friendly browser to complete the captcha, but Midori can do the job. I

wonder if something like Dillo would work?


 No.821903>>821954

>>819773

<I also have 16GBs of RAM and a Skylake i7 and tbh everything I do feels too fast

>shilling for Jewtel botnet

<You could try a non-shit browser like Chromium

>shilling for (((Google))) botnet, that sends all your keystrokes and browsing history to israel and NSA.

<or get an SSD

>shilling for SSD meme

>>819828

<I'm using Chromium 58

>I'm retarded

>>819921

How about pictures on your Lynx?

>And even Lynx will load images into external viewer if you ask it to.

what?


 No.821904>>821957

>>819938

>If you disable Javascript (install Noscript), you'll find that things render a lot faster.

faster, but still very slow

>>820209

>Firefox on an old 2008 Thinkpad just works on my end. You're probably running Windows.

You're probably a normie who opens 5 facebook tabs and 5 cat pictures tabs, then closes web browser and goes to party.

>>820861

>But he can encode 2 videos at once while listening to music.

>The music will only stutter a little bit, the computer won't respond to any input

what is thread priority and process priority. Go to wikipedia learn some shit

music won't stutter even when encoding 10 videos at once, as encodings will be on lower priority that music playing.

>and rendering a ten minute video will take 2 hours.

what are presets. https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/H.264

a preset that is two times faster will result in only 10-15% higher file size.

also, why would he need to encode videos in realtime? just put encoding job and use computer normally

>>820898

>I don't get this "need" to encode videos, much less two at a time (and while listenting to music, no less). Is this chan invaded by a bunch of youtube e-celebs or something?

Yes, most people don't even need to encode videos. But some have to encode their personal videos made with smartphone or camera. However, for personal videos you don't need 4K resolution, you don't record 10 hours a day, and you don't need realtime encoding. You can encode them on old computer without problems, it will just take more time, or have bigger filesize, but who cares?

>Stuff I need to do: edit text files, compile small/medium programs, occasionally compile kernel & OS stuff (not including bloated junk like Firefox), use text-based network clients, use PDF/PS viewer, use simple image viewer, sometimes play non-HD videos or MP3 and such. All that works fine on any old Pentium-M laptop, and maybe even a Pentium II would work good enough.

Exactly. All the common tasks will work on 15 year old CPU. Except web browsing, but that's because of niggers in web development and browser development.

>>820982

>I use cmus, and music has literally never stuttered on my computer. If I try the same thing I was describing there with GUI programs, then yeah I may have some of them breaking.

it doesn't matter if software is GUI or CLI. Music players use high priority thread for playing music so it won't stutter even if 100% cpu usage.

>>821545

>Some people feel the need to have "the best" and will shit on anything that isn't. They have no sense of nuance, they only work on superlatives.

fucking goys, let's burn them in ovens

something like "the best" doesn't even exist. there is not any CPU that is the best for everything

>Whenever I need to do batch processing work, I keep a server computer that is also used for my permanent services (calendar, audio/visual services, file/data services).

Fine, but if police or jews get to your server they can steal data and see what you have on it. Or they could modify files and plant malware.

>>821579

>You still have to open up a Javascript-friendly browser to complete the captcha

You don't need javascript for 8ch captcha. Any browser with text + image + POST should work. Could even try to open image in offline viewer.


 No.821954

>>821903

Right, Lynx doesn't display images at all. It can't. But you can tell it to show all image links on a page (with the * toggle key) and then you can follow one of those links. If you didn't configure anything it'll probably just try to download the image to your disk. But you can also set an image viewer program in /etc/lynx.cfg or just edit your ~/.mailcap file with entries like these:

image/png; feh -FZ %s

image/gif; feh -FZ %s

image/jpeg; feh -FZ %s

application/pdf; xpdf -q %s

>>821579

In theory, even Lynx should work, but it brings up a "(D)ownload or (C)ancel" dialog when the captcha page is invoked. So I use "Links -g" just for that purpose.


 No.821957>>821973

>>821904

>open a few hundred tabs

>wtf y my computer slow??


 No.821973

>>821957

Yeah 100 is crazy. I usually only have about 20 open.


 No.821986

>view > pagastyle > nostyle [X]


 No.821988>>821994 >>821996

They most hilarious irony I've encountered was when I finally upgraded from 2GB to 8GB RAM several months ago. GNU/Linux Firefox never gave me trouble before even with ~400 tabs, but now I run into its memory leak sucking up all my RAM all the fucking time. What in the actual fuck? Do I have to run this in a virtual machine to protect my memory from being gobbled up entirely?


 No.821994

>>821988

>sorosfox

palemoon doesn't suffer this


 No.821996

>>821988

That's an amazing story. I wish I could find out the truth of what's happening here.


 No.824649>>824653 >>824757

Well I kind of have peace of mind because I have no choice of browser. With 3000+ tabs open, Palemoon is the only viable browser.


 No.824653

>>824649

What the fuck are you doing? You're doing it wrong.


 No.824757

>>824649

what is bookmarking? what are RSS feeds? what is 'saving to mhtml/arc/maff? what is time management? what are native applications?




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